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Hi guys,
I have encountered massive sudden unresponsiveness about 3 times since I've got the phone and I'm trying to troubleshoot the problem.
The phone becomes very unresponsive with extreme lag and eventually after a long wait it reboots itself. I saw it twice on Nougat leaked beta and just today, on official OOS4.
On one occasion I encountered while it was charging in the car, and navigating. It was frustrating as GPS wasn't reliable. Phone felt warm too.
However, on other occasions, I was doing some simple tasks like browsing FB and the issue started. I highly doubt this is CPU throttling as I I've gotten the phone hotter before without any problems.
Now, is there any app which logs CPU resources in the background? Kinda like Windows task manager which tells you which app is hogging resources. I have Wakelock detector which is great, but the app using more batt is not necessarily the culprit.
So far, I replaced LightFlow with LED blinker and will monitor. Any ideas, feel free to share.
Thanks for reading!
MasK said:
Hi guys,
I have encountered massive sudden unresponsiveness about 3 times since I've got the phone and I'm trying to troubleshoot the problem.
The phone becomes very unresponsive with extreme lag and eventually after a long wait it reboots itself. I saw it twice on Nougat leaked beta and just today, on official OOS4.
On one occasion I encountered while it was charging in the car, and navigating. It was frustrating as GPS wasn't reliable. Phone felt warm too.
However, on other occasions, I was doing some simple tasks like browsing FB and the issue started. I highly doubt this is CPU throttling as I I've gotten the phone hotter before without any problems.
Now, is there any app which logs CPU resources in the background? Kinda like Windows task manager which tells you which app is hogging resources. I have Wakelock detector which is great, but the app using more batt is not necessarily the culprit.
So far, I replaced LightFlow with LED blinker and will monitor. Any ideas, feel free to share.
Thanks for reading!
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if you saw these on Nougat leaked beta, its normal, because as the name says, its an old build, not the one that came out before EOY. On official build, its normal as well, being Beta 1 build. I`m using it too, and I encounter a lot of lag, small freezes , and things like there. These are going to be fixed, but we just need to simply wait for OnePlus to do their job. And I`m ok with this, since I`m also working in development branch and I know how their processes work
smilirulz said:
if you saw these on Nougat leaked beta, its normal, because as the name says, its an old build, not the one that came out before EOY. On official build, its normal as well, being Beta 1 build. I`m using it too, and I encounter a lot of lag, small freezes , and things like there. These are going to be fixed, but we just need to simply wait for OnePlus to do their job. And I`m ok with this, since I`m also working in development branch and I know how their processes work
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Thanks. I've searched quite a bit for this issues but I couldnt find it. I felt that nobody else saw it. The occurrence might be low, but the problem is big. Phone becomes unusable for quite a substantial amount of time.
Lets see how it goes.
MasK said:
Thanks. I've searched quite a bit for this issues but I couldnt find it. I felt that nobody else saw it. The occurrence might be low, but the problem is big. Phone becomes unusable for quite a substantial amount of time.
Lets see how it goes.
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Have you tried to reset to factory settings after update? That might help
smilirulz said:
Have you tried to reset to factory settings after update? That might help
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I didn't feel the need for it, as all my installs were clean from scratch. So having this issue across at least 2 FW tells me that it's likely a rogue app causing this..
What about the stable version of Nougat here?
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/amazon...s3TOxygen_28_OTA_035_all_1612310259_2dc0c.zip
Link from this original thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/zip-flashable-firmware-modem-t3509015
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What about the stable version of Nougat here?
http://otafsc.h2os.com/patch/amazon...s3TOxygen_28_OTA_035_all_1612310259_2dc0c.zip
Link from this original thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/zip-flashable-firmware-modem-t3509015
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Yup.. I am using that right now. Saw the issue once so far.
Hard to say if it's a rogue app without knowing which apps you have installed
I'd recommend a factory reset since that's usually the first troubleshooting step. Try installing apps back slowly, and only the ones you absolutely need. I'm on the stable nougat build and haven't noticed that happen with me yet.
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
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lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
lchiu7 said:
Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
zelendel said:
... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
zelendel said:
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
lchiu7 said:
Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
lchiu7 said:
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.
I am out of things to try on this thing, I bought it used in February and ever since upgrading to Pie the phone will beginning shutting down during use, even while only watching youtube. Something is causing the cores to ramp up to 100%, it begins to warm up but not overheat and then shuts down usually around 70c I believe, no overheating message just straight cuts power. The only way to get it to power back on is to cool it down in front of a fan or car AC for a minute or so, then it will stay on and I can watch the CPU usage drop after a few minutes and then I can use it again. I have factory reset, cleared cash but the issue remains. As Android no longer allows seeing what is using CPU I have no way of trying to figure this out further. Any ideas?
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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I havent tried this, kind of terrifies me. I have touched firmware since my S3. lol kind of afraid it might shut down while doing this and brick it
butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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Can anyone clarify if my device will brick if it shuts down while flashing firmware? Im getting desperate enough to want to try but I can't afford to replace the phone right now if it bricks.
drosenberg85 said:
Can anyone clarify if my device will brick if it shuts down while flashing firmware? Im getting desperate enough to want to try but I can't afford to replace the phone right now if it bricks.
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No it shouldn't brick it. It'll just take you to a screen that says the update failed and on that same screen you try to flash it again. In order to try to avoid that from happening can't you do it in front of a fan or something blowing air at the back of the phone to keep it cool? I really don't think it'll be doing so much with the CPU to cause it to do that but just in case use a fan or something.
MrMike2182 said:
No it shouldn't brick it. It'll just take you to a screen that says the update failed and on that same screen you try to flash it again. In order to try to avoid that from happening can't you do it in front of a fan or something blowing air at the back of the phone to keep it cool? I really don't think it'll be doing so much with the CPU to cause it to do that but just in case use a fan or something.
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Its not so much something I'm running that's causing the CPU usage, it happens even if only chrome or YouTube is open. I can go days without it happening , or somedays it's worse, 3 times today and the last time was the worst, it took 20 minutes to get it back. Sometimes turning off halfway through the Samsung logo. There's no overheat warning,CPU can be in the low 70s and it happens. Shutting off during the Samsung logo, could it even be the firmware? Is the battery a possibility?
drosenberg85 said:
Its not so much something I'm running that's causing the CPU usage, it happens even if only chrome or YouTube is open. I can go days without it happening , or somedays it's worse, 3 times today and the last time was the worst, it took 20 minutes to get it back. Sometimes turning off halfway through the Samsung logo. There's no overheat warning,CPU can be in the low 70s and it happens. Shutting off during the Samsung logo, could it even be the firmware? Is the battery a possibility?
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I would say if there's no update to the apps that are causing the problem then go into the app and uninstall the update by just uninstalling the app. See if that stops it. I don't think a battery would cause an overheating problem with the CPU but the battery itself could overheat causing the phone to shutdown but it wouldn't have any effect on the CPU like you're having so it has to either be the app itself the firmware or the CPU is having a problem.
MrMike2182 said:
I would say if there's no update to the apps that are causing the problem then go into the app and uninstall the update by just uninstalling the app. See if that stops it. I don't think a battery would cause an overheating problem with the CPU but the battery itself could overheat causing the phone to shutdown but it wouldn't have any effect on the CPU like you're having so it has to either be the app itself the firmware or the CPU is having a problem.
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That's the thing, neither the battery or the cpu get overly hot, phone gets slightly warm to the touch but around 70c doesn't seem like overheating to me. I have no idea what app,.if it is an app causing it. Thanks to android 9 there's no way to tell what's eating cpu. My monitoring apps only show they are maxing out. My concern with the battery is that maybe it's a voltage issue, maybe it can't keep up the all the cores maxing out
drosenberg85 said:
That's the thing, neither the battery or the cpu get overly hot, phone gets slightly warm to the touch but around 70c doesn't seem like overheating to me. I have no idea what app,.if it is an app causing it. Thanks to android 9 there's no way to tell what's eating cpu. My monitoring apps only show they are maxing out. My concern with the battery is that maybe it's a voltage issue, maybe it can't keep up the all the cores maxing out
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Well for the Note 8 70c (158F) is a bit too hot for normal operating temperature. I read that someone's hasn't gone above 50c (122F) with normal usage for over 2 weeks so there's definitely something contributing to that. Do you have a ton of apps and stuff on the phone where it has to constantly check all kinds of stuff? Can you do dialer codes? Like *#9900# to run a dumpstate/logcat and then copy it to your SD card to read through it and see if anything seems out of order? It's huge just so you know..
butchieboy said:
Have you tried to flash firmware with Odin? Save all your important stuff to sd card, do a complete wipe..dalvik.. system..data..and cache. Flash firmware in odin BL,AP,CP,CSC
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Happy Thanksgiving bro!
Same to you bro
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MrMike2182 said:
Well for the Note 8 70c (158F) is a bit too hot for normal operating temperature. I read that someone's hasn't gone above 50c (122F) with normal usage for over 2 weeks so there's definitely something contributing to that. Do you have a ton of apps and stuff on the phone where it has to constantly check all kinds of stuff? Can you do dialer codes? Like *#9900# to run a dumpstate/logcat and then copy it to your SD card to read through it and see if anything seems out of order? It's huge just so you know..
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I'm around 55 to 60c with normal use, but when the cores ram up it can get high 70s, but no overheating message, I dont run many apps, mostly games but I ran a factory reset and uninstalled a bunch of stuff still no go. I just happened again, I ran the dump and saved the log, I'll try and look at it tonight on my computer but have no idea what I'm looking for lol
drosenberg85 said:
I'm around 55 to 60c with normal use, but when the cores ram up it can get high 70s, but no overheating message, I dont run many apps, mostly games but I ran a factory reset and uninstalled a bunch of stuff still no go. I just happened again, I ran the dump and saved the log, I'll try and look at it tonight on my computer but have no idea what I'm looking for lol
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Starting to seem like it's either a hardware issue or the firmware you're using. Have you tried using a different firmware version as long as it's the same bootloader version?
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Starting to seem like it's either a hardware issue or the firmware you're using. Have you tried using a different firmware version as long as it's the same bootloader version?
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Not yet, I downloaded the same firmware version I have and was gonna try as a last resort, currently on
N950USQS6DSI3. Had no issues until I believe I updated to pie, lol
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Not yet, I downloaded the same firmware version I have and was gonna try as a last resort, currently on
N950USQS6DSI3. Had no issues until I believe I updated to pie, lol
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Then get away from that version just go back one lol.
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Then get away from that version just go back one lol.
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So an update and some more questions. I ran a few factory resets and the phone shut down during initial OS setup, had to put it in the freezer. I have done a firmware flash yet as I was finally able to reproduce the issue multiple times. I ran a cpu stress test and as soon as it gets in the mid to high 80s it shuts down, did it 3 times. Shouldn't there be a warning and shouldn't it throttle? It seems to be the temp sensor on one core, I'm not sure how accurate these. I attached a screenshot, the circled core is the one that spikes in temp causing the shutdown. I think I'm looking at a hardware failure maybe?
drosenberg85 said:
So an update and some more questions. I ran a few factory resets and the phone shut down during initial OS setup, had to put it in the freezer. I have done a firmware flash yet as I was finally able to reproduce the issue multiple times. I ran a cpu stress test and as soon as it gets in the mid to high 80s it shuts down, did it 3 times. Shouldn't there be a warning and shouldn't it throttle? It seems to be the temp sensor on one core, I'm not sure how accurate these. I attached a screenshot, the circled core is the one that spikes in temp causing the shutdown. I think I'm looking at a hardware failure maybe?
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Yep definitely hardware! You need a new phone or board!
One week on 12 with Magisk root and all was fine until yesterday. Phone boots for about 1 1/2 minuets, and freezes. The touchscreen does not respond to input and buttons do not work as well. The phone restart in about a minuet or so. but it's goes straight to the Google bypassing a the bootloader in unlocked,press to pause screen. Restarting the phone in safe mode the phone works fine. I assume it's a rouge app but I don;t know which one.
Anyone else have this issue? Anyway to locate what app is crashing the phone. I did a Malwarebytes scan that took forever because of the rebooting and it did find and remove a "threat" however that did not fix things.
I don;'t want to reset this phone again unless it is the only solution.
Thanks in advance.
BB
If you already found malware... there may be more.
Reload and be careful what you install and download.
I've gone for over a year with Malwarebytes not finding anything... that should be a red flag for you. Clean your act up.
Mind you I do go to some nasty sites... but I'm very careful what I install and download. I'm running a N10+/Pie variant.
blackhawk said:
If you already found malware... there may be more.
Reload and be careful what you install and download.
I've gone for over a year with Malwarebytes not finding anything... that should be a red flag for you. Clean your act up.
Mind you I do go to some nasty sites... but I'm very careful what I install and download. I'm running a N10+/Pie variant.
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I'm a creature of comfort. I've been running the same setup/apps on my Pixel 2XL on Android 11 for sevral years and on this 4a5G on Android 11 for several months now without issue. I've never had a problem. This just started when I switched to 12. I'm half tempted to go back to 11 at this point.
Bad Bimr said:
I'm a creature of comfort. I've been running the same setup/apps on my Pixel 2XL on Android 11 for sevral years and on this 4a5G on Android 11 for several months now without issue. I've never had a problem. This just started when I switched to 12. I'm half tempted to go back to 11 at this point.
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Agreed. Constant firmware upgrades are generally counterproductive especially if the device is fulfilling its mission.
Even Adroid 9 is secure enough to use with no issues.
Lol, you probably should have stopped with Android 10 if possible That's as high as my N10+'s will ever go. Scoped storage was poorly implemented and it seems not needed. Android is suppose to be the alternative to iPhone, not an inferior copycat
Guess Google didn't get the memo...
blackhawk said:
Agreed. Constant firmware upgrades are generally counterproductive especially if the device is fulfilling its mission.
Even Adroid 9 is secure enough to use with no issues.
Lol, you probably should have stopped with Android 10 if possible That's as high as my N10+'s will ever go. Scoped storage was poorly implemented and it seems not needed. Android is suppose to be the alternative to iPhone, not an inferior copycat
Guess Google didn't get the memo...
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I know, I have no idea why I switched to 12. I figured the latest and greatest but that is not true at least not yet for the ones like me who need root. Maybe 12 is great for Google as it is seems to be more locked down that previous version. I guess going forward Goole may become just as locke down as Apple.
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I know, I have no idea why I switched to 12. I figured the latest and greatest but that is not true at least not yet for the ones like me who need root. Maybe 12 is great for Google as it is seems to be more locked down that previous version. I guess going forward Goole may become just as locke down as Apple.
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That's my fear as well as the complete mess they're making getting there. My office app is free and not compatible with scoped storage.
One of the reasons I now have 2 N10+'s is zero confidence in Google Android's immediate future or direction. Google gotten too big for its breeches and needs to be cut down to size.
UPDATE:
Wiped the phone and set it up with a fresh install of 12. After some issues I got it to boot on Friday. I rooted and all wall well until last night when the same thing started to happen. with constant reboots after a few minuets After thinking about what could be causing this I remembered that although installed via backup/restore I opened the app Greenify and gave it root privileges yesterday afternoon. I uninstalled the Greenify app and the phone is back to normal, at least for now. I don't know what it is doing but I assume Greenify is hibernating a vital system app that is causing the phone to freeze and reboot.
Bad Bimr said:
UPDATE:
Wiped the phone and set it up with a fresh install of 12. After some issues I got it to boot on Friday. I rooted and all wall well until last night when the same thing started to happen. with constant reboots after a few minuets After thinking about what could be causing this I remembered that although installed via backup/restore I opened the app Greenify and gave it root privileges yesterday afternoon. I uninstalled the Greenify app and the phone is back to normal, at least for now. I don't know what it is doing but I assume Greenify is hibernating a vital system app that is causing the phone to freeze and reboot.
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Greenify and 3rd party launcher were the 2 apps that I removed after 2 back to back boot loops over 1.5 years ago.
I suspect it was the launcher but Greenify was also a prime suspect. Ditched both, the last load remains fast and stable to this day.
So there's that...
blackhawk said:
Greenify and 3rd party launcher were the 2 apps that I removed after 2 back to back boot loops over 1.5 years ago.
I suspect it was the launcher but Greenify was also a prime suspect. Ditched both, the last load remains fast and stable to this day.
So there's that...
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I use Nova launcher as my default launcher and have been since it the day it was released. At first I liked Apex (free) over Nova (free) but I bought the pro of Nova and could not be happier. As for Greenify, just checked and it has not been updated since 2019. Regardless the phone is working with no issue, keeping my fingers crossed.
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I use Nova launcher as my default launcher and have been since it the day it was released. At first I liked Apex (free) over Nova (free) but I bought the pro of Nova and could not be happier. As for Greenify, just checked and it has not been updated since 2019. Regardless the phone is working with no issue, keeping my fingers crossed.
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Lol, nothing like a boot loop to wake you up
I've used Nova launcher with no issues. It was Hyperion I had loaded... paid version. It was glitchy. I'm running stock; Greenify didn't have as much leeway as it did your load did.
Don't know which caused it, not doing another reload to find out. It was one or both together.
I just stick with the stock One UI now as it's the best overall launcher for my N10+...
so I learned
It's been like half a month since I got the OnePlus 10 pro, it's been working flawlessly until just two days ago. Since then, even when I'm not using the phone and the screen is turned off, the phone is at 40-42°C constantly. I'm really worried because it has been working cool (well not as hot as now) even when using high demanding games, but now it even turns off the 120hz because of how hot it gets when just using chrome for example. Should I try and do something to fix it or directly send it to get the phone checked?
It might be obvious but the battery life has also gotten horribly worse than before, and it only cools down after completely turning the phone off.
What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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You're welcome.
Android and Windows aren't normally effected by the same viruses etc as the malware can't cross platform.
On heavily used devices the battery lasts about 2 years. Simply get it replaced.