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Camera Apps Can Tune Sharpening, Noise Reduction?

I'm considering buying the Nokia 8 but would first prefer to know whether or not the phone allows third party camera apps like Camera FV-5 or Snap Camera HDR to tune sharpening and noise reduction, or altogether switch these off.
Any Nokia 8 owners who have tried this and can tell if this works or not?

You can use any camera app you like

Thanks. I am sure that is true.
My question is specific. If I install a camera app that allows tuning post processing (sharpening and noise reduction), will this work on the Nokia 8?
Not all phone makers expose these controls in the camera APIs.
For example, Samsung's Galaxy phones equipped with Exynos chips does not permit tuning post processing while their SnapDragon models do this.

abubasim said:
My question is specific. If I install a camera app that allows tuning post processing (sharpening and noise reduction), will this work on the Nokia 8?
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I have both Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera so I could check if such options are there if you tell me where to look as I don't recall seeing something like that in their preferences (I had Nexus 6P previously).

Thanks. I'll check when I reach home in a few hours.

revanmj said:
I have both Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera so I could check if such options are there if you tell me where to look as I don't recall seeing something like that in their preferences (I had Nexus 6P previously).
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You can check in Camera FV-5. See my screenshots where to find sharpening. If you take a photo first before adjusting and then after with sharpening set to minimum: will you see difference in quality, when zooming in to 100% ?

abubasim said:
If you take a photo first before adjusting and then after with sharpening set to minimum: will you see difference in quality, when zooming in to 100% ?
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Well, it is by default set to 0 here (all sliders in this window are) so I would have to manually change it to higher value in order to do any comparison.

Okay, thanks. So probably doesn't work then. I guess I need to consider other phones. ?
On my current phone (Asus PFS) it's set to almost zero but adjusting it has no effect on picture quality.

Ok, when I tried to move that slider it turned out it is impossible. So that fully answers your question

Just find an app that takes RAW images and use that. Then adjust said parameters to your heart’s content

I'd rather buy another phone that supports this.

If you have Camera2 API enabled in your phone, try Snap Camera - you can tune everything here. Just enable Camera2 API in the settings, then the noise is preserved. Adjustable sharpness, saturation etc... The only option missing here for me is long exposure mode. On my Redmi 4X it allows only 1" shutter time max (still I can get nice night pictures on ISO 250 with this interval).
Also, you can try FreeDCam and disable Wavelet Denoise in the settings to turn off noise reduction.
Finally, Google Camera port is really great camera app for daily usage, especially for HDR pictures - it uses Camera2 API by default and produces amazing shots with all details (subtle noise) preserved. Unfortunately, you can't adjust any of parameters like sharpness or saturation.
All those apps are tested on my Xiaomi Redmi 4x but it will hopefully work for you if your phone supports Camera2 API.

So you tested on a Xiaomi Redmi 4x but haven't tested on a Nokia 8?
Those features are very much dependant on whether or not the phone supports them. And no way of knowing without buying the phone and testing and then finding out the good or bad news.
So far the hints from previous posters above is that the Nokia 8 does NOT support full control over post processing.

Google Camera v8.3b Mod with HDR+ (recommended settings)[Exynos]

I found the settings of google camera that give the best HDR+, portraits on Nougat/Oreo Exynos devices. Compared to stock camera, GCam gives better saturation levels and detailed images. HDR+ parameters don’t hugely matter what you choose, and is all personal preference. A higher amount (very high in my case) will take a longer time to process.
New settings attached below. Clean Install is always recommended.
Mod8.3b_IDan_v3.2.9_Exynos.apk
3.2.9 Features
-Fixed black level back camera for Samsung Galaxy A8/A8+
-Attempt to fix OIS
3.2.7 Features
- Fixed black level front
- Enabled OIS by default
- Added saturation options in Advanced HDR+ settings
3.2 Features
- Dark Theme for settings.
- Now you can select the path where to save the photos (doesn't work on sd card but probably can work with some xposed mod).
- Removed all the snapdragon toggles. The app will know when apply that settings.
- Removed custom denoise param and other settings
- Now the app will restart every time you go back from settings to the viewfinder. This means that you don't need anymore to restart the app to apply settings
- Now there are three gestures in the viewfinder:
1. double tap on the black area it will pop the exposure menu directly
2. long-press on gallery and it will open samsung gallery instead of google photos
3. long press on the switch camera and after the restart the viewfinder brightness will be set to maximum
- some minor changes
Gcam Tool v2..32
-Prevent flipping of front camera photos
-Choose which photos you want to move
-Select custom source and destination folders
-Batch move multiple files
-Option to delete the sub folder created by Google Camera
Download
Thanks to:
miniuser123
Arnova8G2
IDan1109

Lens blur is not biggy right? Waiting for the portrait mode

coolguy said:
Lens blur is not biggy right? Waiting for the portrait mode
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For me its pretty good.

msohail_7 said:
For me its pretty good.
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found it, tnx

msohail_7 said:
For me its pretty good.
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Nice.. I couldn't get that movement correctly to slide it to get lens blur

But it seems to be a old version without the original portrait-mode. They are working on it and posted versions that are working for snapdragon but not for the exynos right now.

msohail_7 said:
For me its pretty good.
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Also I thought protrait is only via rear camera, how did you do with front camera?

coolguy said:
Also I thought protrait is only via rear camera, how did you do with front camera?
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Lens blur is still better than live focus.

coolguy said:
Nice.. I couldn't get that movement correctly to slide it to get lens blur
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I found it better than stock one which most of the time fails to capture.

msohail_7 said:
I found it better than stock one which most of the time fails to capture.
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You mean the slide up to get blur? It always says too fast for me.

msohail_7 said:
I found a version of google camera that has HDR+ and Lens Blur working on Note 8 Exynos version.
Download Link
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Working on Snapdragon too. I downloaded and the Blur works front and rear cameras.
Thanks

msohail_7 said:
I found a version of google camera that has HDR+ and Lens Blur working on Note 8 Exynos version.
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is this the latest link? looks like an old link?

coolguy said:
You mean the slide up to get blur? It always says too fast for me.
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Yes it most of the time works for me compared to stock one.

juliospinoza said:
Working on Snapdragon too. I downloaded and the Blur works front and rear cameras.
Thanks
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Great to hear that. How do you think its compared to stock like live focus, photo quality...

chacho_2me said:
is this the latest link? looks like an old link?
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Thats the only version i found working.

It won't let me install it.
Corrupted installer. Have downloaded it 3 times.

msohail_7 said:
Lens blur is still better than live focus.
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Not at all, Live Focus is infinitely better than lens blur. Lens Blur can't detect edges for ****. The problem with Live Focus is it requires adequate lighting for good processing. Lower light tends to do about as well as lens blur, for me at least.
Also Live Focus is fantastic as generating a gradual bokeh across the ground or a wall, it's way more natural. Lens Blur can't do anything like that.

ryan770 said:
Not at all, Live Focus is infinitely better than lens blur. Lens Blur can't detect edges for ****. The problem with Live Focus is it requires adequate lighting for good processing. Lower light tends to do about as well as lens blur, for me at least.
Also Live Focus is fantastic as generating a gradual bokeh across the ground or a wall, it's way more natural. Lens Blur can't do anything like that.
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I agree that but lens blur and live focus are totally different in work. Lens blur is a good replacement for devices like S8, S7 etc.

There's a new version that supports Portrait mode, and is working on Snapdragon variants... I've tried, but can't find any setting to work.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-mod-portrait-mode-lens-blur-4k-video/

msohail_7 said:
Great to hear that. How do you think its compared to stock like live focus, photo quality...
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For me, the Google app is more natural than Samsung. The Samsung looks more artificial. Check by yourself. I installed the app as in OP. No problems at all.

Pixel 4 camera app leak

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-7-0-009-259843690-release/
Enjoy the new camera app.

I could install the app with luckypatcher. New iu feels fresh and nice. But it looks like a portrait mode on a frontal camera doesn't work properly, it blurs everything.
UPD: the portrait mode works, it needs Ratio 4:3 to be set.

Selfies with portrait mode on front camera are blury...i reverted back to 6.3

n1kolaa said:
Selfies with portrait mode on front camera are blury...i reverted back to 6.3
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Like mentioned above, you have to set the ratio for the front camera to 4:3 then the portrait selfies will work as they should At least it does for me.

Interesting...Interesting...
bejunk said:
Like mentioned above, you have to set the ratio for the front camera to 4:3 then the portrait selfies will work as they should At least it does for me.
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It's a straight upgrade/update on my 3a (though it does warn that it's a "dogfood" AKA pre-beta APK). That means that- so far - there is no reason it can't install on any Pixel.

PGHammer said:
It's a straight upgrade/update on my 3a (though it does warn that it's a "dogfood" AKA pre-beta APK). That means that- so far - there is no reason it can't install on any Pixel.
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Yeah right. I don't know why above user needed lucky patcher for this. But ok.

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bejunk said:
Yeah right. I don't know why above user needed lucky patcher for this. But ok.
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Maybe he's running either Pie or a Pie-based AOSP ROM? (Despite 10/Q being available, some folks have refused to move.)
(Yes; 10 is available to every Pixel phone; not merely some of them - however, there are still holdouts.)

bejunk said:
Like mentioned above, you have to set the ratio for the front camera to 4:3 then the portrait selfies will work as they should At least it does for me.
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for me didnt worked sow your post

It is now on the PlayStore - as Camera 7.2. If you have an earlier version installed (unmodded, of course), update. For me (Pixel 3a), the biggest gain is still NightSight; if I needed the AstroPhotography mode, the same improvements that show up in NightSight would be useful there, too. My biggest quibble is the same one that was present with the previous Camera app; motion is on by default.. (Where I'm curious is WHY it's on by default - the default with other OEM/ODM camera apps is to shoot stills.) Because of the NightSight improvements, it's a worthwhile update for the Pixel 3a and earlier - especially if you take low-light shots - and given the time of year, you likely will.

So, anybody using Cstark's PXv4.x camera mod on the Pixel 3a? Are there major improvements?
Does this install alone or does it replace stock cam?

Tomar777 said:
So, anybody using Cstark's PXv4.x camera mod on the Pixel 3a? Are there major improvements?
Does this install alone or does it replace stock cam?
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I use it, works great, no issues found, but i did not made many pictures..
It installs as a new package, so you can use booth (or deactivate Google Camera wo you'll only have one in your app drawer)
PRO:
- set portrait zoom to 1.5 instead of 3.0
- Astrography mode switch
- many more settings to try out
CONS:
- Selecting Google Lens does not work, but you can use it easily from the app in the Playstore.
Just install it and try it for yourself, if you don't like it, you can uninstall it in a breeze.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/google-camera-mods/gcam-google-pixel-1-2-3-t3875663?&ampcf=1

Tomar777 said:
So, anybody using Cstark's PXv4.x camera mod on the Pixel 3a? Are there major improvements?
Does this install alone or does it replace stock cam?
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These camera apps will install as a second camera. They do not replace the stock camera app and they can both be installed at the same time (just like any other 3rd party camera app). You can select the PX Camera to act as the default camera, but the OEM camera is available in the apps draw.
I'm running Camera PX 4.1 (version 7.2.014) right now. It adds a bunch of extra settings that are definitely helpful. One of the best features is bringing back Smart Burst mode (where the camera takes a series of high quality images while you hold the shutter button down). This was taken away by Google when they introduced the dumb video feature which only provides one high quality image and the rest are really low quality.
It probably won't make a noticeable difference in picture quality for normal pictures, but might in night or astro mode.
The only "downside" or feature not working in PX 4.1 is the "Google Lens" function. Selecting that mode doesn't actually do anything. I have to use the OEM camera right now if I want to use Google Lens. Hopefully that bug is fixed in the next version. Everything else works as expected.

Wow...
Gcam apk for my Pixel device???
*Do we need to root to use this?
Thanks

Hi guys.
Pixel 3a with December 2019 updated on Android 10.
No Rooting done.
I also have a MiA3 with gcam apk installed.
The selfie on MiA3 with gcam come off better than on my P 3A.
Why is that? They have better dynamic range and details as well(on zooming).

Xebeck said:
Hi guys.
Pixel 3a with December 2019 updated on Android 10.
No Rooting done.
I also have a MiA3 with gcam apk installed.
The selfie on MiA3 with gcam come off better than on my P 3A.
Why is that? They have better dynamic range and details as well(on zooming).
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Little off topic, but i thought the same about my nokia 7 plus with GCam.
Thing is the fixed focus on the pixel front cam. You need to hold the phone more far away to get nice selfies.
Try the modded version mentioned in this topic. i think Cstark made improvements to the front cam too

Tomar777 said:
Little off topic, but i thought the same about my nokia 7 plus with GCam.
Thing is the fixed focus on the pixel front cam. You need to hold the phone more far away to get nice selfies.
Try the modded version mentioned in this topic. i think Cstark made improvements to the front cam too
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Thanks for replying.
But I had Pixel 3 before 3A(switched due to atrocious battery life), and even in that I felt that the selfie camera was ok.
The situation with my 3a is similar to my friends iPhone 11, great back camera but ok front one.
Oh well....
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sic0048 said:
These camera apps will install as a second camera. They do not replace the stock camera app and they can both be installed at the same time (just like any other 3rd party camera app). You can select the PX Camera to act as the default camera, but the OEM camera is available in the apps draw.
I'm running Camera PX 4.1 (version 7.2.014) right now. It adds a bunch of extra settings that are definitely helpful. One of the best features is bringing back Smart Burst mode (where the camera takes a series of high quality images while you hold the shutter button down). This was taken away by Google when they introduced the dumb video feature which only provides one high quality image and the rest are really low quality.
It probably won't make a noticeable difference in picture quality for normal pictures, but might in night or astro mode.
The only "downside" or feature not working in PX 4.1 is the "Google Lens" function. Selecting that mode doesn't actually do anything. I have to use the OEM camera right now if I want to use Google Lens. Hopefully that bug is fixed in the next version. Everything else works as expected.
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Can you please share all the settings for the one by cstark?

Xebeck said:
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Can you please share all the settings for the one by cstark?
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Nothing special really......
I have "4k Smart Burst", "Restore Smart Burst" turned on and "Super Res Xoom Always On". Portrait Zoom set to 1.5x. "AI AWB for HDR+ Enhanced" turned On and "AI AWB for Night Sight" turned on.
I don't do anything with Lib patcher. I figure the stock settings are about as good as they are going to get.

Question OIS not working

A request to those who have updated to 12.1, check the optical stabilization. In the camera application, in photo mode, on the main module, with micro movements, the picture should be static. Or through instagram, telegrams, etc. Stabilization should also work there.
(I just can’t understand either a mechanical failure, or OIS disappeared after the update)

Same here. OIS only works on video mode, not in photo mode.

The preview is shakey but the picture seems focused nicely. So i dont see any issue here.

maxellxl said:
The preview is shakey but the picture seems focused nicely. So i dont see any issue here.
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It is more difficult to take a night photo without a tripod. Or a long exposure photo.

maxellxl said:
The preview is shakey but the picture seems focused nicely. So i dont see any issue here.
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^ this summarize OPPO hahaha
the preview while your taking the photo is sh*t like it's not focusing(it keep saying go further or go near the target) , not colorful enough and somewhat pixelated but after taking it and OPPO applied AI correction and HDR it would turn out really beautiful
usually i just ignore warning like go near or further the target since it would still take the photo anyway

ineedroot69 said:
^ this summarize OPPO hahaha
the preview while your taking the photo is sh*t like it's not focusing(it keep saying go further or go near the target) , not colorful enough and somewhat pixelated but after taking it and OPPO applied AI correction and HDR it would turn out really beautiful
usually i just ignore warning like go near or further the target since it would still take the photo anyway
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I dont get any warnings like you do. In addition preview is shakey when you shake your phone, but when you click shutter button the picture is cristal clear and sharp in my case

If you dial *#899# then go to manual test - camera, you can see how the stabilization should work in the photo.
It's not a bug, it's a feature
Hope it comes back in the next update.

Question Pro mode in the cam

I can't pro mode it's not available to the pixel ? How can I get good quality pro mode?

What do you mean by "pro mode"? The Pixel camera has various photo/video modes, quick settings and more settings plus advanced settings. What else would you need? Pretty unspecific post.

Manual camera controls is not available in Pixels so you have to use 3rd party camera apps.

There are Exposure and White balance controls though. Go into camera settings>more settings and turn them on under manual controls. Once you have done that, you can access them by tapping the screen.

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I can't pro mode it's not available to the pixel ? How can I get good quality pro mode?
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"pro" doesn't mean its for professional photographers. Its just a marketing gimmick for "higher end features".

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"pro" doesn't mean its for professional photographers. Its just a marketing gimmick for "higher end features".
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I know gimmicky for most but for me it's good I shoot with it on my OnePlus 9 pro a lot

poit said:
There are Exposure and White balance controls though. Go into camera settings>more settings and turn them on under manual controls. Once you have done that, you can access them by tapping the screen.
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That's sounds great I can use motion cam when I need a bit more