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Hi.
Just looking for other options in the sound department.
Can you share your experience with other in-ear phones?
Was the change dramatic?
What are your suggestions for a really good sound?
I'm using Sony mdr-zx310. There're not the best, but better than QB3
If you are on a budget try sony mh1c headset, it's best keept secret ?
But to be honest I prefer the sound of beat 3 as the stage is very clear, nice mids and highs a bit less bass but I'm listening usually all records as they have been recorded without much of fidling.
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I'm looking forward to some quality step up from the Quad Beat 3. Range price to up to 100 euro.
Sony SBH80, Apt-X bluetooth headset, after tried wireless you can't go back, especially with that sound, better than MH1C...
I use bose sports in-ear. Sound quality is fine (see reviews on amazon or similar). But much more imprtant is that these are the only in-ears I know which feel comfortable in my ears.
Zero Audio Carbo Tenore. $40 approx. worth considering if you are looking in this price range. Better bass (less bloat) than the quadbeats.
Fischer Audio Eterna, not the v2. They are AMAZING.
Soundmagic E10 here, sounds awesome on the G4
Etymotics Research ER-4P and Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10vi Noise Isolating Earphones w/ Microphone here... Sounds superb...
Earphones I have:
Earsonics SM64
Shure SE535 red edition
But those are probably a little out of your price range.
Ones that would be in your price range:
Sound Magic PL50's
Audio Technica ATH-IM70
Vsonic GR07 Classic
The new Xiaomi Pistons. Great Value for Money. Just be carefull for the originals, i suggest the sites, Gearbest, merimobiles, ibuygou, vickmall.
Serbinhio said:
The new Xiaomi Pistons. Great Value for Money. Just be carefull for the originals, i suggest the sites, Gearbest, merimobiles, ibuygou, vickmall.
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IMO. Not much difference between Pistons and the QuadBeat. Then again, I'm more used to higher end IEMs.
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IMO. Not much difference between Pistons and the QuadBeat. Then again, I'm more used to higher end IEMs.
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IMO? LMAO? And what do you mean higher end? Beats? Because most of the higher ends (more expensive ones) do not have better and more expensive sound drivers, but software audio enhancements, which you can achieve with lower end headphones. I have all the pistons and the quadbeats and the differences are many from lows to highs. If you do not have experience in this field it is not my problem but do some research first and you will see that there are differences in paper too.
I use marley redemption since 3-4 years... I tried also beats audio, some akg and some cheap sony... But in my opinion marley are the best quality\price choice...
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IMO? LMAO? And what do you mean higher end? Beats? Because most of the higher ends (more expensive ones) do not have better and more expensive sound drivers, but software audio enhancements, which you can achieve with lower end headphones. I have all the pistons and the quadbeats and the differences are many from lows to highs. If you do not have experience in this field it is not my problem but do some research first and you will see that there are differences in paper too.
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Lol. I use a W4 as my daily driver with my X5. You consider Beats to be higher end? *sarcasm start* That shows your impeccable taste in sound quality *sarcasm end*
Quadbeats and Pistons have difference sound signatures, however quality wise its on par. Just depends on which sound signature you like better. Go home kid. Come back when you've outgrown your Beats by Dr Dre. I didn't intend any disrespect but you started it and I'm ending it.
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Lol. I use a W4 as my daily driver with my X5. You consider Beats to be higher end? *sarcasm start* That shows your impeccable taste in sound quality *sarcasm end*
Quadbeats and Pistons have difference sound signatures, however quality wise its on par. Just depends on which sound signature you like better. Go home kid. Come back when you've outgrown your Beats by Dr Dre. I didn't intend any disrespect but you started it and I'm ending it.
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Such a smartass ... LOL ... I will not continue arguing, and I will not use sarcasm in your opinion and your comparison of a 12$ headphones with a 300$ ones because I am not like you... The reference in Dre's was only for smartasses like you that search Amazon to say something clever... I have used a wide variety of Bose inears and audio technicas over the ears, so I think that I can have an opinion...and if you cannot understand the meaning of value for money and why I suggested pistons in my post just leave this post... Thank you again for this funny conversation
MDR-NC31EM using them since my Xperia z3 and they are good
I use Klipsch R6, sound very good. http://www.klipsch.com/R6-headphones
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IMO. Not much difference between Pistons and the QuadBeat. Then again, I'm more used to higher end IEMs.
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Big diffrence.Q3-P3
Q3-Bass qulity very bad P3-Balanced
Q3 High-Scream P3-Quality high many spectrum
Q3-Middle-Not exist P3-Avg but exist.
I'm coming from a Oneplus One a much better phone for music than my poor old Galaxy S2. How does the Oneplus 3 do compared to its predecessor's? Is it loud, undistorted, have a good range in its built-in DAC for the 3.5mm Jack?
Thanks-
JJ
I haven't got mine yet although from all the reviews i've seen they say the earphone quality is good
It sound really good in my opinion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
Yes, with sony headphone the quality is very good
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maxl96 said:
It sound really good in my optionion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
Loving the sound from my Xiaomi Mi Piston 3 on my Oneplus 3..!
It easily tops the quality and power of the Nexus 6. My completely stock OP3 sounds just as good and loud as my rooted N6 using Viper4Android.
Not bad at all, much better than my Nexus 5X.
Sound quality is good and I was a bit worried when I got mine. Coming from a Huawei P8, which I found to be great, I have been very happy with OP3.
I use Neutron player and after I took time to disable some features and enable others, I am very pleased. Output is loud and clear makes my earbuds boom nicely. Overall, no complaints at all. Speaker volume on the other hand... not as good as I'd like.
But, headphone, for me anyway, is most important.
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Mulayan said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
It has the generic Snapdragon converter. Nothing special but sound quality is decent through the h/phone out. When I had the phone I used it a couple of times with both Grado and Sennheiser cans. No real complaints, not amazing. Good enough imho.
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
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I never said it's a phone. Do I?
The Wolfson is actually the DAC which is used in The Galaxy S and there was an App called Voodoo Controller by Supercurio which enabled really undistorted and clear output.
Wolfson DACs where also used in some BMW and Mercedes by the way...
Finally mines arrived been using it for a day listening with inateck Aries earphones and I'm very impressed good amount of bass and undistorted Highs. Using viper on oxygenos. Way better than my s2 and not massively better than my oneplus one.
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We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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So the sound quality is average as for the phone? So probably big difference compared to good quality mp3 player? I was thinking if zte axon 7 has really better sound quality or just dolby, useless for music 32bit. People say it's noticeably better, but just because it has more bass or whatever, or with dolby on when it can get only worse for music.
Maybe you or anyone else knows something about sound quality, has a good headphones to check it, has some comparison to good portable audio player or decent phone.
I'm not an audiophile but I can appreciate sound quality more than others, I'm using old Cowon j3 player and it sounds really well. Have also OPO which I'm using with Spotify, but can hear sound degradation over Cowon
When it's loud, or has a lot of bass or hurting ears high tones says nothing about sound quality. I would like to know how is the soundstage, if the instruments are separate, if they are heard well not mixed up with other sounds, if the sound is flat or not, you said the dynamic range is fine, that's good.
Do anyone know what sound chip is inside OP3?
According to GSMArena the S8+ can reproduce sound at 32-bit/384kHz but the new Note 8 has downgraded to 24-bit/192kHz? I know at this point its all rumour yet GSMArena are usually reliable. IF this is accurate I do ponder Samsung's logic. I live in the hope this is untrue as its a deal breaker for me as music is much more significant than the camera that I never use.
Ryland
I think we'll have to wait and see. Logically it doesn't make any sense to downgrade any features from the S8 (besides the battery capacity due to the S Pen space), so hopefully that info is incorrect.
Samsung lost the plot on audio a while ago. Head amp usually poor and Snapdragon devices don't use any special DAC.
Ultra High Quality Audio Playback
UHQ 32-bit & DSD support
PCM: Up to 32 bits
DSD: DSD64/128
*DSD64 and DSD128 playback can be limited depending on the file format.
Audio playback format
MP3, M4A, 3GA, AAC, OGG, OGA, WAV, WMA, AMR, AWB, FLAC, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTTTL, RTX, OTA, DSF, DFF, APE
*Some files may not be supported depending on codec used.
And what about aptx HD?
Any info on the DAC hardware in the Exynos version of the Note 8. Shame we wont have the Quad DAC like in the LG V20.
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Any info on the DAC hardware in the Exynos version of the Note 8. Shame we wont have the Quad DAC like in the LG V20.
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Same DAC as the SGS8 and 8+ Rather peeved the Note 8 doesn't come with dual speakers. For the hideous cost it bloomin well should! Very disappointing for those of us who enjoy mobile music. If Samsung don't make vast improvements in this area next time around I may well revert to Sony. But then again the whole idea of the Note 8 is that S-pen that I find fantastic? I guess what I seek can't be found?!
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Ryland Johnson said:
Same DAC as the SGS8 and 8+ Rather peeved the Note 8 doesn't come with dual speakers. For the hideous cost it bloomin well should! Very disappointing for those of us who enjoy mobile music. If Samsung don't make vast improvements in this area next time around I may well revert to Sony. But then again the whole idea of the Note 8 is that S-pen that I find fantastic? I guess what I seek can't be found?!
Ryland
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Samsung have gone backwards. With Exynos they used to use high quality Wolfson DACs.
I was also very much wanting dual speakers. I mean, I don't use the on-board speaker a ton, but I would definitely use it more if it was dual. Plus just for things like games, even speakerphone calls, etc - would have been nice. Maybe next time around.
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Samsung have gone backwards. With Exynos they used to use high quality Wolfson DACs.
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Wolfson was bought out by Cirrus logic in 2014. The SGS8+ has a Cirrus logic DAC meaning Wolfson. :highfive:
On the exynos variant that is, NOT the Snapdragon.
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Wolfson was bought out by Cirrus logic in 2014. The SGS8+ has a Cirrus logic DAC meaning Wolfson. :highfive:
On the exynos variant that is, NOT the Snapdragon.
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What's ur source of this info ?
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Ryland Johnson said:
Wolfson was bought out by Cirrus logic in 2014. The SGS8+ has a Cirrus logic DAC meaning Wolfson. :highfive:
On the exynos variant that is, NOT the Snapdragon.
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Cool thanks. But even the new Cirrus Logic is unlikely to be as good as the quad DAC in the LG V20. Strange since Samsung bought Harmon Kardon to improve the audio of its devices. I'll be annoyed if they don't offer aptx HD.
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Cool thanks. But even the new Cirrus Logic is unlikely to be as good as the quad DAC in the LG V20. Strange since Samsung bought Harmon Kardon to improve the audio of its devices. I'll be annoyed if they don't offer aptx HD.
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Hi, the V20 had quad ES92B ESS Sabre DAC's. In terms of technical sound reproduction the V20, on paper, is superior to the DAC on the Note 8 however............. IN terms of sound reproduction there are numerous factors that affect the end result IE, what we hear.
The amplification process and, of course, the ear buds or head phones in terms of a mobile device. Not to mention the source material and the ambient we are trying to listen in.
In general the V20 should outshine the Note 8 IF all parameters are equal. In real life seldom are said parameters equal. To that end to truly hear the difference we would need to be in a studio with identical volume presets, head phones, high end source material and music genre.
For a mobile device that is not really meant to compete with dedicated Hi-res portable players costing hundreds of euros, I think most of us including the so called audiophiles like me will be happy taking into consideration we won't have to carry around a second device. I guess its the same with the cameraphiles who will be happy with taking less accurate pictures BUT not having the need to carry a dedicated canon DSLR?
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
Hi, the V20 had quad ES92B ESS Sabre DAC's. In terms of technical sound reproduction the V20, on paper, is superior to the DAC on the Note 8 however............. IN terms of sound reproduction there are numerous factors that affect the end result IE, what we hear.
The amplification process and, of course, the ear buds or head phones in terms of a mobile device. Not to mention the source material and the ambient we are trying to listen in.
In general the V20 should outshine the Note 8 IF all parameters are equal. In real life seldom are said parameters equal. To that end to truly hear the difference we would need to be in a studio with identical volume presets, head phones, high end source material and music genre.
For a mobile device that is not really meant to compete with dedicated Hi-res portable players costing hundreds of euros, I think most of us including the so called audiophiles like me will be happy taking into consideration we won't have to carry around a second device. I guess its the same with the cameraphiles who will be happy with taking less accurate pictures BUT not having the need to carry a dedicated canon DSLR?
Ryland
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No. High bit rate FLAC and decent £150 headphones will show the difference. But it is a personal preference issue. If you use your device for listening to music while commuting you probably wont use FLAC at 96khz 24 bit versus mp3 at 320 kbps. I can easily tell the difference because i like really good quality.
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No. High bit rate FLAC and decent £150 headphones will show the difference. But it is a personal preference issue. If you use your device for listening to music while commuting you probably wont use FLAC at 96khz 24 bit versus mp3 at 320 kbps. I can easily tell the difference because i like really good quality.
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If you are totally in to audio quality one doesn't use a mobile phone one uses a dedicated hi res player.
Second point. Music and how we individually hear its reproduction is totally subjective and impossible to standardise as no two individuals taste in reproduction are the same. In the ever shrinking world of dedicated Hi-Fi separates it is accepted industry knowledge that different amplifiers, speakers and sources including the interconnects have a certain sound stage. Marantz, Quad, Meriden, Macintosh, A&R, shure, Sennheiser, Denon et al, the list is endless and all have their own style of sound.
When you write you can tell 'The' difference I respectfully suggest you mean you can certainly tell 'A' difference, such a difference is your hearing and what you enjoy. On a very basic level some enjoy a more treble, high end, sound stage while others enjoy a more lower end base focused sound stage. the equations are as endless as are the listeners hence the choice we have. There is no such animal as 'The best'. :good:
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
If you are totally in to audio quality one doesn't use a mobile phone one uses a dedicated hi res player.
Second point. Music and how we individually hear its reproduction is totally subjective and impossible to standardise as no two individuals taste in reproduction are the same. In the ever shrinking world of dedicated Hi-Fi separates it is accepted industry knowledge that different amplifiers, speakers and sources including the interconnects have a certain sound stage. Marantz, Quad, Meriden, Macintosh, A&R, shure, Sennheiser, Denon et al, the list is endless and all have their own style of sound.
When you write you can tell 'The' difference I respectfully suggest you mean you can certainly tell 'A' difference, such a difference is your hearing and what you enjoy. On a very basic level some enjoy a more treble, high end, sound stage while others enjoy a more lower end base focused sound stage. the equations are as endless as are the listeners hence the choice we have. There is no such animal as 'The best'. :good:
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I know what you mean being an owner of a Linn turntable and Naim amplification. There is subjectivity but also general consensus which says FLAC sounds much better than mp3s. Even my wife who is not an audiophile can tell the difference between normal bit rate Mp3s and extreme OGG quality on Spotify on her S8.
We are getting away from the issue. If LG can include a Quad DAC which most audiophiles would consider a good solution for smartphone audio and a V20 is only £300 why can’t Samsung do something about their poor audio compared to the fantastic cameras they have.
I'm not interested in having a philosophical abstract dialogue With you. I want Samsung to use a better DAC and headamp, period.
End of conversation.
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I know what you mean being an owner of a Linn turntable and Naim amplification. There is subjectivity but also general consensus which says FLAC sounds much better than mp3s. Even my wife who is not an audiophile can tell the difference between normal bit rate Mp3s and extreme OGG quality on Spotify on her S8.
We are getting away from the issue. If LG can include a Quad DAC which most audiophiles would consider a good solution for smartphone audio and a V20 is only £300 why can’t Samsung do something about their poor audio compared to the fantastic cameras they have.
I'm not interested in having a philosophical abstract dialogue With you. I want Samsung to use a better DAC and headamp, period.
End of conversation.
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Nice amp' and table. Not seen a Linn TT for some years now. What speakers are you using?
I agree with your paragraph regarding LG's use of DAC's and Samsung's apathy to improve, hell we can't even get two speakers out of them. I have threads here that state this very point.
It was nice to debate with you:good:
Ryland
As many of you know Sony has a pretty good offer on pre-ordering a Xperia XZ1 or XZ1 compact. You'll get a free Sony NC headphone!
There is only one dilemma, they offer two types;
The MDR-1000x
https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1000x/specifications
and the WH-H900N
https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/wh-h900n/specifications
The MDR-1000X was voted one of the best NC headphones of 2016 but is an old model. The WH-H900N is a lot newer so there are not a lot of reviews to compare it with the MDR-1000X(so I have no idea if it's any good)
So I was wondering: What headphone are you guys going to choose and why?
Are there any places that are offering this pre-order bonus still? I can't seem to find it, the closest thing I see is by Clove UK which is giving away the SBH24 Bluetooth Headphones.
My research so far resulted in this list of points in favor of the 1000x, when compared to the 100ABN (h.ear on wireless 1):
- subjectively better sound quality
- better noise cancellation
- more comfortable on the head (again, subjectively)
- hard carrying case (instead of a pouch)
- less issues with wind sounds amplified through the mics
Things that are in favor of the H900N:
- probably more responsive touch controls
- less issues with phone calls (mic related)
- sony headphones connect app support
- presumably no headband issues with the 100ABN
- longer battery life (and quick charge support)
- more recent model
But again, this is mostly when compared to the 100ABN; the H900N might just have improved sound quality and/or noise cancellation... let me know if you find any reviews!
I haven't seen that offer on the Compact in the UK. Best offer I've seen was the Clove one with the bluetooth adapter - which what I opted for.
For the XZ1 too, the headphones were limited to the first 400 users to complete a successful claim. Sounded too much like a gamble to me.
I've got some Sennheiser earphones at the moment, but am tempted by a pair of cheap Sony noise-cancelling headphones to go with the bluetooth adapter instead. Drown out some office noise etc.
found this WH-H800 review with some WH-H900N references:
https://nerdtechy.com/sony-wh-h800-h-ear-2-mini-wireless-ear-headphones-review
I was googling for an answer to this question, which is how I ended up here.
So I searched a bit further. My guess is: the WH-H900N is only a year younger (I think) than the MDR-1000X. What is more, The MDR-1000X is last year's top-model and its successor is the WH-1000XM2, not the WH-H900N.
The MDR-1000X had excellent sound quality and great reviews. Sound quality isn't a technology with huge developments, so I think purely sound-wise, the MDR-1000X is probably still better than the WH-H900N with only a year between them.
It also looks a fair bit beefier. Possibly better padding on the earcups; I read it's still very comfortable with glasses.
The WH-H900N does seem to look a bit sleeker and comes in a variety of colours. Maybe a bit more fashionable.
This year's models also come with fast-charge (65 minutes playing after 10 minutes charging) so that's in favour of the WH-H900N. The WH-H900N also has 6 hours more playtime when fully charged.
So MDR1000X seems to have some disadvantages and some (possible) advantages over the WH-H900N. If I'd had to choose right now I'd say MDR1000X, but I'm going to check on the tech issues mentioned above by sssparkkk first.
It's a pretty sweet deal though, whichever you choose!
- edit - checking some reviews on amazon.com and amazon.de (3 stars and below) I read that multiple users have issues with the headband, and other breakage issues. So maybe the WH-H900N after all..
I've ordered the black WH-H900H today. Will write a review when it arrives
The way I see it is that the MDR-1000X is last years top model of Sony, where the WH-H900N is a segment lower. I have compared the MDR-1000X and the H900N's predecessor MDR-100ABN in the store. The 1000X was lighter, had a much better fit and its ANC was clearly of a higher level. The 100ABN was sturdier though, probably can handle more clumsiness. The H900N still has somewhat the same design, making me believe the 1000X still has an advantage there. Also the ANC works better with the earpad design of the 1000X.
Looking at other specs and features they are almost the same. Here are some differences:
The H900N has a better battery life (28 hours), however I think 20 hours of the 1000X is also plenty enough. This is of course a personal choice.
The H900N probably also has a better touch control system, and maybe some more options with a connected mobile app. This I haven't checked.
The 1000X on the other hand has a wider sound spectrum, giving it a more clearer and nicer sound.
The 1000X also has this really nice feature that the ANC adjusts itself to the shape of your head.
So, if you want to be sure you have top notch headphones with probably the best sound quality and definitely the best ANC, go for the 1000X
If you want to have headphones that are a bit more sturdy and have the newest (secondary) features like the application with all its options, go for the H900N
Curious whether you guys agree!
I've got the 100ABNs and am wondering about upgrading to the WH-H900N but I don't really see any reason to do it for touch controls and more codecs. Unless the ANC has improved I'll probably stay on the 100ABNs.
Interesting.
Here, they only offer 3500 headphones for those who register after preordering.
One of the issues surrounding the 1000x, and its upgraded version, is that noise cancellation turns off after 5 minutes unless it is paired or has an audio jack plugged in. Kind of makes it a strange noise cancellation accessory.
I did not buy the 1000x, it has problems in the headband, they break near the hinge. Prefer the new version 1000xM2 that in theory, does not present that construction failure. Greetings.
I own the sony 1000x, great sounding headphones. My one complaint is phone calls the mic picks up to much external noise to make it usable. I would like to think this has been improved given this is one of sony's better nc wireless headphones.
When I was buying headphones I tried WH-H900N and MDR-1000X. After a mounth of calculating I decided that MDR-1000X has better sound quality. Decision was a half good because my MDR-1000X broke after 6 months of use. I don't know if Sony fixed this on newer series of MDR-1000X. MDR-1000X has excellent sound quality but poor build quality. On the other hand WH-900N has better build quality but not good sound quality as MDR-1000X although they have dedicated android app for better sound.
Two months ago I bought MDR-1000XM2 and concluded my searching for now.
WH-H900N vs MDR-1000X vs WH-1000XM2
I initially purchased the H900N, but quickly concluded that the sound quality, even using the cable, was pretty poor even compared to my old $35 Sennheisers from 10 years ago. Before sending the H900N back, I did a sound comparison between the H900N, my old Sennheiser HD212, and a friend's 1000X, with all the features turned off on both the Sony's (i.e. power off, cable plugged in so as to purely compare the quality of the cones, without in-built software messing around with the sound). The H900N sounded lifeless, muffled, lacked fidelity, and made everything sound dull. The 1000X sounded a million times better, much more life-like in the sound, and just sounded great. I then spent ages swapping back and forth between the Sennheisers and the 1000X and concluded the probably sounded better on the 1000X, but my ears are so tuned into the Sennheisers after many years it's probably difficult to tell. However, when I then turned on noise cancelling, the 1000X smashed the Sennheiser out if the park, it just sounded fantastic, and the ability to drown out background noise meant I was able to here so much more detail even at very low music levels.
I can only conclude that the H900N are a low quality headphone but with all the bells and whistles. They're great if you want some well-made noise cancelling headphones, but the audio quality is inferior to even cheap wired headphones, so avoid if you're even slightly an audiophile.
I sent the H900N straight back, and purchased the Sony WH-1000XM2. I did weigh up getting the original 1000X (cheaper, same price as H900N), but was keen to have AptX-HD (which was the original reason I chose the H900N over other brands) so went for the pricier M2. The 1000XM2 is so much more of a premium product than the 900, they sound so much better, the noise cancelling on them is fantastic, bluetooth streaming over AptX HD sounds great, they feel sturdy and comfortable to wear, and they come with a proper case (unlike the H900N which comes with a flimsy soft case). Not looked back since!!
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I initially purchased the H900N, but quickly concluded that the sound quality, even using the cable, was pretty poor even compared to my old $35 Sennheisers from 10 years ago. Before sending the H900N back, I did a sound comparison between the H900N, my old Sennheiser HD212, and a friend's 1000X, with all the features turned off on both the Sony's (i.e. power off, cable plugged in so as to purely compare the quality of the cones, without in-built software messing around with the sound). The H900N sounded lifeless, muffled, lacked fidelity, and made everything sound dull. The 1000X sounded a million times better, much more life-like in the sound, and just sounded great. I then spent ages swapping back and forth between the Sennheisers and the 1000X and concluded the probably sounded better on the 1000X, but my ears are so tuned into the Sennheisers after many years it's probably difficult to tell. However, when I then turned on noise cancelling, the 1000X smashed the Sennheiser out if the park, it just sounded fantastic, and the ability to drown out background noise meant I was able to here so much more detail even at very low music levels.
I can only conclude that the H900N are a low quality headphone but with all the bells and whistles. They're great if you want some well-made noise cancelling headphones, but the audio quality is inferior to even cheap wired headphones, so avoid if you're even slightly an audiophile.
I sent the H900N straight back, and purchased the Sony WH-1000XM2. I did weigh up getting the original 1000X (cheaper, same price as H900N), but was keen to have AptX-HD (which was the original reason I chose the H900N over other brands) so went for the pricier M2. The 1000XM2 is so much more of a premium product than the 900, they sound so much better, the noise cancelling on them is fantastic, bluetooth streaming over AptX HD sounds great, they feel sturdy and comfortable to wear, and they come with a proper case (unlike the H900N which comes with a flimsy soft case). Not looked back since!!
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3 months in...did the headband break yet?
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3 months in...did the headband break yet?
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Not regretted getting the 1000s for a second... Use them everyday and they're awesome! Robust and sound great. Really appreciated them on a recent flight too.
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Hello.
How do you guys rate the sound quality taken by a filmed video or a call, does the Mic sounds good enough for this device?
Btw, what about Bluetooth or Speaker, are all well playing or is there a lil inconsistency in lac of bad output?
How's the sound quality using wired earphone? I plan to upgrade from G6 with quad DAC but I'm afraid with the sound quality.
megadust said:
How's the sound quality using wired earphone? I plan to upgrade from G6 with quad DAC but I'm afraid with the sound quality.
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I went from HTC 10 to this phone, the difference is definitely there
The included adapter is an analog one (meaning no DAC, just wiring from phone's internal audio dac)
I wouldn't say it's *bad* per se, it's just the most generic solution by qualcomm implemented. No fancy stuff.
However they did implement it good enough to be used by most ppl, but it's probably coming up short by audiophile standard.
The sound is flat, damp, and just a bit loose in my personal opinion. It just somehow got just a bit of sound stage in there though so that's arguably a plus.
I ended up with an external DAC by moshi as daily driver.
So if you're expecting the internal DAC to be as good as some high-end smartphone, probably not. However if you're mostly using it for web video / streaming, and can accept the sound is just damp, it's good enough.
P.S. You're going to use an typc-c to 3.5 mm adapter anyways, so just get a decent adapter (moshi adapter on the cheap side, audiolab p-dac on the higher end side), and call it a day.
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I went from HTC 10 to this phone, the difference is definitely there
The included adapter is an analog one (meaning no DAC, just wiring from phone's internal audio dac)
I wouldn't say it's *bad* per se, it's just the most generic solution by qualcomm implemented. No fancy stuff.
However they did implement it good enough to be used by most ppl, but it's probably coming up short by audiophile standard.
The sound is flat, damp, and just a bit loose in my personal opinion. It just somehow got just a bit of sound stage in there though so that's arguably a plus.
I ended up with an external DAC by moshi as daily driver.
So if you're expecting the internal DAC to be as good as some high-end smartphone, probably not. However if you're mostly using it for web video / streaming, and can accept the sound is just damp, it's good enough.
P.S. You're going to use an typc-c to 3.5 mm adapter anyways, so just get a decent adapter (moshi adapter on the cheap side, audiolab p-dac on the higher end side), and call it a day.
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thanks for your explanation!
I expect the sound quality at least to be on par with my old S6 (which is a bit lower than G6). I tried my friend's new mi9 and I found it so dull and lack of everything (I'm only using low end cans 1more triple driver).
Do you find moshi DAC is on par with G6 (or maybe HTC 10)?
megadust said:
thanks for your explanation!
I expect the sound quality at least to be on par with my old S6 (which is a bit lower than G6). I tried my friend's new mi9 and I found it so dull and lack of everything (I'm only using low end cans 1more triple driver).
Do you find moshi DAC is on par with G6 (or maybe HTC 10)?
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Well if you're using e1001, that's definitely good enough to hear the difference TBH. The integrated stuff is flat at best, but I'd call it pale (and damp).
And yeah, the moshi dac has been working out pretty well for me, I'm mostly in for the 3yr warranty but the sound is at least on par, if not more than HTC 10 in my opinion. To be fair HTC did a nice job on their audio on 10 so that's saying something.
But I mean, for $25 on a 24/192 audio adapter I'm happy with what I have. (It also works on PC, but I think most external DAC does.)
If you want something more close to sony A-series walkman quality, you'll probably have to check p-dac.
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* audio is a very personal experience, these are my personal experience and preference, you should probably try before you buy and shop around. *
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Well if you're using e1001, that's definitely good enough to hear the difference TBH. The integrated stuff is flat at best, but I'd call it pale (and damp).
And yeah, the moshi dac has been working out pretty well for me, I'm mostly in for the 3yr warranty but the sound is at least on par, if not more than HTC 10 in my opinion. To be fair HTC did a nice job on their audio on 10 so that's saying something.
But I mean, for $25 on a 24/192 audio adapter I'm happy with what I have. (It also works on PC, but I think most external DAC does.)
If you want something more close to sony A-series walkman quality, you'll probably have to check p-dac.
Also, mandatory:
* audio is a very personal experience, these are my personal experience and preference, you should probably try before you buy and shop around. *
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I see. Where did you buy the moshi dac for $25? Is it usable while charging the phone?
Use Bluetooth or upgrade to something which does?
My Sony wh1000xm3 sound great!