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Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
ourtech said:
Although I have been a very satisfied T-Mobile customer for the last 7 years, it appears and tech support confirms that the tower that I connect to at home is oversold and instead of the 16 to 20 megs down that I used to get, I am now getting 1.5 meg on a good day and it goes down to .3 meg on bad days. I can't live with that as I have little other access to Internet bandwidth in my neighborhood and it gets worse every week. I use the Internet for business. The only fix appears to be another tower. Not a quick fix.
So, If I make the switch, what happens? Although it may work out better in switching if I give Sprint my existing Nexus 6, I will be using a Nexus 6 with them. I read comments that I will lose simultaneous voice and data use because of their Spark network. Is that true? What LTE speeds should I expect? I also understand that I will lose tethering if I opt for the unlimited plan (I am actually leaning toward the 20 GB family plan which I understand that I can share with my data enabled devices.) I don't read any nice things about Sprint.
Any thoughts you can share would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
chaunold said:
Dont do it bro, sprint is horrible. Tell me if you find 25 people you know that love sprint more than T-Mobile. Sprint is a rotting company hiding behind sales gimmicks and ideas from T-Mobile. T-Mobile is still rolling out this year with Band 12 700Mhz and its LTE footprint roll out replacing old edge areas. More people complain about sprint way more than T-Mobile. So if you dont like T-Mobile, you might as well get shartrizon or AT$$$T. I would recommend calling T-Mobile to send a tech. to your area to fix the issue or report it for fixing.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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See, that is my feeling as well. I can't find anyone that has nice things to say. As to AT&T or Verizon, wow does the cost jump. And to the point about getting a tech out there, been there, done that. T-Mobile is very aware of the problem. They have bee running tests for a while. Sadly, it is oversold. Not broken. Don't have too many options. There were some numbers from Verizon that weren't horrible, but I don't think Verizon pays ETFs.
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I had verizon wireless for 10 years and left them over a year ago for T-Mobile. I didn't regret anything. I didn't switch because of price because I could afford verizon, but their plans and phones suck and they are scam artists trying to rape every penny from you just like John Legere quoted. In my area and even in rural places in georgia I get pretty decent excellent coverage and service. At home I usually get from 80-112mbps down and 7-15mbps up. Verizon couldn't match that and hell, everyone I know that has sprint hate it and are jumping to T-Mobile because they get less than 1mbps and call quality sounds like pure ****. T-Mobile has nationwide VoLTE and WiFi calling and texting and the "Uncarrier" exclusives. I have unlimited data so I use it as my home internet since I have root for tethering unlimited data and its way faster than charters fastest speeds they deliver to my house lol. Sprint is also bad just like verizon because remember they are money hungry companies and they will lock u in contracts and can only use their cdma devices or select unlocked devices like the nexus 6. I heard verizon doesn't recognize the unlocked nexus 6, idk if that is true or not.
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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I have looked at Cricket. The problem is that I do exceed 10 GB in some months and there is no provision for tethering or tablets that I could see. One of those options would be necessary.
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Although tethering is not supported, it does work.
There also would be no issue popping in a Cricket SIM in a Nexus 9. I've considered selling my WiFi N9 and getting a LTE N9 with a 20GB Cricket SIM.
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Is Cricket Wireless an option? They are essentially AT&T with throttled LTE speeds of 8Mpbs down, no throttle up. I am paying $55/month for 20GB of LTE data. They no longer offer that plan, but have the same plan at 10GB of data.
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Someone is selling a CricketWireless 20GB LTE plan on Howard Forums...I have had ZERO issues using Cricket with my Nexus 6...in fact I am loving it.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April. Thanks though.
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From what I could see in the Howard forums, the 20 GB promo expired in April.
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It did expire, someone is selling their account.
ourtech said:
Link? And what about tablets or tethering? I need that data sometimes when I am out in the field and I have to remote into something. Yes, even my 6 inch screen is a little small. I don't see any plans for tablets.
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There is an app on the playstore if you have root called "WiFi Tether Router" which will work or if you want unlimited native tethering.
#1 in SQL lite go to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/settings.db/global
#2 add " tether_dun required " and set the value to 0
#3 in your APN settings add " dun " to APN type and set your APN to IPv4 only since IPv6 doesnt support this.
Either use OpenSignal app or their site and zoom in on your neighborhood. They have a list of carriers with their average upload and download speed.
Personally I wouldn't use Sprint as OpenSignal and Rootmetrics has shown it is the slowest network across the country.
Get a AT&T GoPhone sim and try them out for a month. Walmart sells the sims. They now have rollover data on prepaid just like T-mobile. Plus they're not throttled like Cricket.
I wait for Callingmart to announce their monthly 10% off GoPhone refills on Twitter. Then refill each month saving me $6.
Just my 2¢ but I have been with Sprint for going on 8 years. Their service is great in my area (now) and their customer service has always been outstanding. While I do agree that they don't have the best coverage, they have come a long way in my time with them. You can get unlimited, TRULY unlimited data with them for a good price. They offer payment plans on the top devices and as I said, customer service has bent over backwards for me more than once. Choice is yours, OP, just do your homework and choose wisely.
I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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I have no complaints with Sprint. They recently upgraded my area to LTE and its fast. Its really pointless to ask random people on the internet because they more than likely do not live in your state much less your city. Signal strength is the most important aspect of cell phone service and you wont find that answer here. I would find a coverage map and compare the carriers, make sure it is a legitimate coverage map and not advertising. I would also ask people in your area with Sprint so you can compare.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
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ceo4eva said:
Free data after you reach your limit, and free music service streaming
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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Good point. Hadn't thought about those. Thanks.
This morning my Speed Tests were decidedly better. At least 8 and as high as 12 meg. I haven't seen those numbers in months. So, (holding breath), perhaps my last call got something changed. I won't make changes unless I am sure there is no hope for change.
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To each his own. I have learned a lot from this, coverage map aside (I am in a Spark enabled area of moderate strength, the same as I am for T-Mobile and for that matter, likely AT&T, which tells me little that I didn't already know. It is a topology issue.) My question wasn't about coverage. It was about the experience. I have learned that, unlike T-Mobile, Sprint customer service is out of country, but some have had good experiences with the company. I have also received useful suggestions about alternatives. This has been very useful to me. Sprint could have the strongest signal in my area and still be a company to avoid like the plague.
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Other than calling to activate new phones, I have only had to call once in all my years with Sprint and I have no complaints on it. I don't generally need service, I pay my bill and use my phone lol. As far as overseas call centers, that's not entirely true; there is a Sprint call center in my city (along with a T-Mobile call center). To each their own.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon as my family plan 4 years ago, best decision of my life. Sprint will frustrate you beyond belief with their slow data, you won't even be able to load Google. I know you said the big 2 cost too much, so I'd stay with T-Mobile if I were you, avoid Sprint at all costs. I personally love Verizon, have 5 off contract smartphones with them, 15GB shared data, and pay $153+tax a month.
I am getting really fed up with verizon. I am still running a Samsung S4 rooted with Hyper drive. I Really want to upgrade to the Note 4 but still no root and no progress on the bootloader. Future looks bleak.
I got a great deal from T-mobile - a note 4, iphone6 and 2 iphone 5s referb. for $192/mo.
Here is the plan details.
- unlim talk & text.
- 10gb/mo data each line (Thats 40GB!!!/Mo)
- An additional 10GB/mo per phone for the first month. Thats 80gb.
- data stash each month carryover for a year. Then the first month drops off.
- Free hotspot.
- 20 days to decide - return all phones with full refund.
So the only deciding factor is how good is the coverage in new england specifically CT, MA & RI.
I live in the hartford area and also need good service in Storrs and RI.
Does anyone have any expericence with T-moble in these areas? Please let me know - good or bad.
If the service really sucks i may just return all 4 phones and keep waiting for someone to crack the Note 4 bootloader on verizon.
okrk said:
I am getting really fed up with verizon. I am still running a Samsung S4 rooted with Hyper drive. I Really want to upgrade to the Note 4 but still no root and no progress on the bootloader. Future looks bleak.
I got a great deal from T-mobile - a note 4, iphone6 and 2 iphone 5s referb. for $192/mo.
Here is the plan details.
- unlim talk & text.
- 10gb/mo data each line (Thats 40GB!!!/Mo)
- An additional 10GB/mo per phone for the first month. Thats 80gb.
- data stash each month carryover for a year. Then the first month drops off.
- Free hotspot.
- 20 days to decide - return all phones with full refund.
So the only deciding factor is how good is the coverage in new england specifically CT, MA & RI.
I live in the hartford area and also need good service in Storrs and RI.
Does anyone have any expericence with T-moble in these areas? Please let me know - good or bad.
If the service really sucks i may just return all 4 phones and keep waiting for someone to crack the Note 4 bootloader on verizon.
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The Hartford area with the Note 4 will be pretty good since a lot of Band 12 has, and is being deployed here. Not so good for the IPhone. Since they do not support band 12. For example at my house service is good except in a few rooms it drop to Hspa. With Band 12 now I never lose lte at home.
Traveling from the Hartford area all the way through Massachusetts to Maine it's been all Lte for me on my Note 4. Now that band 12 will be deployed in Massachusetts, and Rhode Island coverage will get better.
Western Connecticut, and Western Massachusetts a pretty much dead zones or 2g still. Just take a look at Sensorly I mapped a lot of the coverage on it, around here. After seeing how coverage improved with Band 12 I wouldn't get a phone with out it.
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
nigelhealy said:
So i've searched the forum and got an impression this might work.
I have owned AW for 2 years on my Sony SmartWatch 3, it has NFC but AW never activated AP on AW til AW2. I just today ordered a used Urbane2 which is due to get AW2, and based on the AP on AW explanation implies that AP will work on the Urbane when it gets AW2 - right?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ndroid-wear-is-here-and-this-is-how-it-works/
So literally once we get AW2 on Urbane we'll get AP?
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That is my understanding/hope as well.
When the Android Team announced the upcoming 2.0 release on reddit, the AW team member stated in the comments NFC enabled devices, including the Sport and Urbane 2nd Edition, would be able to use Android Pay.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/5su6z0/slug/ddi4a7j
Also, here is a teardown photo showing the NFC chip in the 2nd Edition.
http://goo.gl/7Zjnp1
I just bought one yesterday, its pretty cool, but W2 is when it will become super useful. Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
Drops77 said:
..... Why doesn't Urbane 2 have its own thread? Anyone know
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Not sure really. Maybe not as many users? A result of the recall in November 2015 of the original release? Who knows. I've had mine since the original release, two days before the recall, and still wear it daily. For my purposes, it's still the best option available for AW.
I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
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I didn't know there was a recall! I just picked mine up. Looking into it.
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The original release in November 2015 was recalled. It was re-released in March/April of 2016.
It sold briefly for $299 new in November 2015 before the recall then it was released again 2016 for $360 new. That's the AT&T version pricing.
Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
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Is there a way to know if you have the recall version or the new hardware version?
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Bought mine used, trying to find a hardware number for pre-recall post.
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Do you have the original box? There is a SKU number on it. 6387 is the newer release. My original release has 6106 on it.
No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
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No I bought it used. Is there another way or a serial number range?
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Hmmm I'd have to research about the serial number. They didn't sell very many originally since it was only on sale for a few days so my guess is it's the new version. I haven't had any issues with the original version.
given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big warch and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works. I have rooted phone, AP works (magisk) on phone but the word is not on AW.
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given its 18 months later, the LG Watch Sport looks disappointing specs upgrade, seems a downgrade in battery size (why?) and yet still a big phone and only really chipset improved, given current prices the Urbane2 is about half the price for similar specs. You then have puzzle of the Huawei Watch 2 even higher price for lower specs.
Interest moment coming when AW2 out and then see if AP works.
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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
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If I had to replace my watch for any reason currently, I'd get the U2 again. Other than the rotating crown, the Sport doesn't offer much more for twice the price. Also, for my specific use, there isn't another watch that can provide the same functions. I like being able to forward calls to the watch and leave the phone behind during GPS recorded runs. I was also able to do this while visiting family in France because the U2 includes the 2100 band, the Sport does not. I know that's a rare need, but it was nice to have. My Truphone SIM is global so it worked with no problems.
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Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?
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Good to know, hadn't thought the radio bands. Although puzzling.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/PoGNC4D/lg-w200a-watch-urbane-2nd-edition-lte/france
says shouldn't get any kind of signal?
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Yeah there are a lot of inaccuracies out there. The watch does support B1 2100 band. It definitely worked in France. Select 'specifications' at the top of this site. They don't mention B1, probably because it isn't an AT&T band, but they show support for 2100.
https://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/lg-watch-urbane-2.jsp#fbid=isDV_yi8j3B
Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
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Regarding service, I'm in the united States. What sub carrier can I get a sim from and connect my watch for the cheapest? Ideally I would like Google Fi, but I need a service to add the data Sim. Wish there was a thread for confirmed carriers we can use. I heard TMobile works, but only 3g.
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
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T-Mobile does work with their phone SIM. Some have tried their wearable SIM with little success because they won't allow a non T mobile device on the wearable plan. I originally tried H2O and Ting but couldn't get data to work and there isn't a way to adjust the APN settings. I eventually found Truphone. They are a global SIM that uses AT&T network here in the US. It's 10 cents per minute/SMS/mb with free incoming calls/texts. It's perfect for my use, but if you end up using a lot of data it could add up quickly.
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Good to know. I have ATT and T-mobile SIMs in my OnePlus3T, I was going to try both in the Urbane2 and find out the actual coverage, and then decide what to do next. I was with Straighttalk before ATT, and around here ATT tends to be better coverage than T-mobile. So if Truphone is a ATT based, usage-based for the odd time not with your mobile that might be (agreed) perfect complement. The 9c/MB is the worrying part because its free for incoming and in the context of AW its going to be incoming mostly. Notifications over LTE would add up to a few MB? What is your AW Truphone MB/month type usage off you Truphone bill?
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Do you get full LTE? Can I buy it at a store like Walmart or Target near check out?
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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
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It does receive LTE and actually it's 9 cents per minute/sms/mb with free incoming calls/texts. They are not sold in the store as far as I know. I ordered the SIM online. It was $30 and included $15 of credit. I only activate LTE when I'm running a few times a week. I average about 1MB of data per run so it's costing me $1-$2 dollars a month. FYI, when AW 2.0 arrives it could allow for more data usage if you stream music or download apps away from the phone. I play music from the watch through bluetooth headphones so I don't plan on streaming or downloading apps on LTE.
https://www.truphone.com/us/consumer/sim/
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Looking around U.S mobile seems like an even cheaper alternative. If only using data, but doubt I'll get LTE
Anyone use Google fI? If so what do or don't you like about it?
Service is basically t-mobile, but I am still having wifi calling issues. I don't have service where I am and it seems the age old issue of the phone doing everything it can to use the mobile network is still in effect. Basically if I'm at home and I am on wifi calling and I get even the slightest glimpse of service the phone will swtich to t-mobile towers and then immediately drop the call when the tower signal goes away.
For this reason, I use it as a backup second sim only. Ironically it happens to have great service where my AT&T drops off(except for my house, of course)
I've used it for many years and like it. It works amazingly well in other countries too.
My only complaint is that until a month ago, I didn't have any towers near me and therefore had zero service. People visiting me on other providers had service.
At the beginning, wifi calling worked well for me, but I agree with jmele11968, the last couple of years that feature seemed to never really work.
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I've used it for many years and like it. It works amazingly well in other countries too.
My only complaint is that until a month ago, I didn't have any towers near me and therefore had zero service. People visiting me on other providers had service.
At the beginning, wifi calling worked well for me, but I agree with jmele11968, the last couple of years that feature seemed to never really work.
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Have you tried toggling the network setting to prefer wifi calling? On my pixel 5a, it is Settings -> Network & internet -> Mobile network -> (Advanced) -> Wi-Fi calling and it defaulted to "Call over mobile network" but has an option "Call over Wi-Fi" that inverts the priority. Does this get hidden with Google Fi? I'm using Mint, an MVNO on T-Mobile.
I've been on fi for about 2.5 years but when I first joined I had to contact them about wifi calling and there was something they could toggle in their system to make wifi calling preferred, I can't remember the exact details but my wifi calling has worked great ever since.
I have had it about 3 weeks and have no problems. I'll let you know if I do.
I've been using Fi for about 3 years now. Almost all using a Moto G7. I chose Google Fi because it fit our family budget extremely well. I did not have support issues that others often complain about. Yes I've had issues, but support handled all of them, and I just needed to be able to explain the issue clearly and be patient.
I was ok accepting occasional connection issues knowing I was using a budget phone on a budget service provider.
Recently purchased the Pixel 5a using the subscription plan, again to stay on budget. Mostly because I am traveling more and wanted to be able to use 5G networks available at cities I'm visiting. It has only been about 2 weeks, but I am happy that I got the Pixel 5a with 5G. I have not yet experienced a connection issue. In fact what I find is that it is very clear when the other person has the issue and not me.
Only complaint I have is the camera/video over heating issue. Which is why I'm searching xda now.
I used to have google fi but switched to tmobile because their store reps basically admitted to me that any of the sub providers that use their network get backburner priority so worse speeds even though signal strength is the same. I am on their budget non-magenta plan for 2 lines just under 100 a month unlimited
I switched to it from Verizon for one month, hated it and went back to Verizon. I travel as a truck driver and too many dead spots. T-mobile and Google Fi is a terrible choice for a truck driver.
I got 3 months free trial when I bought the 5a. Service is fine for most for most of the time. It states that there is a 22GB limit on data which is only downside to staying after trial. Was wondering if that is enforced strictly?
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I got 3 months free trial when I bought the 5a. Service is fine for most for most of the time. It states that there is a 22GB limit on data which is only downside to staying after trial. Was wondering if that is enforced strictly?
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Simply unlimited is $60 a month with no additional data charges but data speeds slow after 22 GB. Same with the Unlimited Plus plan except it's $70 a month. I don't know how the trial works but if your limited at 22 GB then I would think but not positive that the same would apply. No extra data charges, just your speed will slow way down.
dkryder said:
I got 3 months free trial when I bought the 5a. Service is fine for most for most of the time. It states that there is a 22GB limit on data which is only downside to staying after trial. Was wondering if that is enforced strictly?
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I think the free trial is the equivalent of the $70 plan. See the Fi website for details. After 22GB speeds slow to 256k. You can retain full speed for $10 GB (only pay for amount used. Use 100MB only pay $1).
Just use WiFi as much as possible.
Testing it out as well for three months. Service has been great in major areas I've been to thus far. Where I live now, which is closer to a rural area, it's currently running a low ball 5G. I'm going to be traveling over the next few weeks to various states, so I'll really get to see how things run coverage-wise.
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I think the free trial is the equivalent of the $70 plan. See the Fi website for details. After 22GB speeds slow to 256k. You can retain full speed for $10 GB (only pay for amount used. Use 100MB only pay $1).
Just use WiFi as much as possible.
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would be great if there was wifi, however i'm very rural but blessed with very good cellular from at&t, t-mobile, verizon. i'm doing the Fi trial which is good. i've been on straight talk at&t 4G which is good. i get at least 60GB of data from ST before they **** with speeds for 50 bucks a month. but at&t doesn't have 5G here yet. i can try straight talk t-mobile for 50 bucks and see if that does 5G, it should since Fi is t-mobile. so my Fi 5G clocks about avg 190Mb and the 4GLTE i get is avg 90Mb so it's quite a difference. but if straight talk t-mobile at 50 bucks for 60GB data at least then Fi doesn't really compare with 22GB for 70 bucks.
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would be great if there was wifi, however i'm very rural but blessed with very good cellular from at&t, t-mobile, verizon. i'm doing the Fi trial which is good. i've been on straight talk at&t 4G which is good. i get at least 60GB of data from ST before they **** with speeds for 50 bucks a month. but at&t doesn't have 5G here yet. i can try straight talk t-mobile for 50 bucks and see if that does 5G, it should since Fi is t-mobile. so my Fi 5G clocks about avg 190Mb and the 4GLTE i get is avg 90Mb so it's quite a difference. but if straight talk t-mobile at 50 bucks for 60GB data at least then Fi doesn't really compare with 22GB for 70 bucks.
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Does AT&T even have true 5G yet? They're still doing that 5Ge mess here.
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Does AT&T even have true 5G yet? They're still doing that 5Ge mess here.
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I don't know. All I get is 4G LTE. I'm gonna switch to T-Mobile on one of my 2 straight talk lines end of the month and see what that gets me for 50 bucks.
I know I'm a little late to this but I tried the 3 month trial when I got my 5a and it worked for about 4 hours then I could no longer get the eSim to work. I would always come up and say 'Google Fi not fully setup'. I spent hours with Fi support (really it's lack of support) trying to resolve it; I asked them to send me a physical sim...I wanted to use it mainly to try out it's built in international coverage (I went on a Caribbean vacation to Anguilla a couple of weeks ago) but alas...they refused to send me a physical card and I canceled the trial so they wouldn't charge me. Horrible experience with Fi and I would never endorse them and told them as much on my exit. I'm sure other people love it, but with the experience I had with support, I'd never endorse it.
Hi,
I just got a OnePlus 10 Pro. I haven't yet activated it and gotten in yet, but I'm also moving to T-mobile from Sprint/T-Mobile.
The plan I'll be on has a 5GB hotspot allowance. I'd like to set my phone up to bypass the hotspot allowance and treat it has normal data use from my phone.
Can anyone help direct me in how to do this? The phone is unlocked, and I'm guessing I'll need to root it first, but any help from anyone on how to get this going would be great.
Thanks.
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
dladz said:
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
dladz said:
Sounds like another t mobile limitation..
Send it back when you get it and grab a pixel 7 pro... Read through some of the threads about t mobile, they really do sound like an awful company, I wouldn't line their pockets, just like I wouldn't line OnePlus anymore.
There used to be a limitation on three devices here in the UK, their sales slumped and they stopped doing it, now their phones are unlocked and open..
I'll be honest, from what I've read it seems t mobile locks their phones up pretty good, you could maybe look into changing region but that's a whole other can of worms and in all fairness not something you should be doing with a brand new phone..
Have a look about through the 10 pro threads and you'll see what I mean...
There may be a magisk module that allows you to use your data, but have never needed it myself
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So line Google's pockets?
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Eh, clearly you are not from the US
T-Mobile is by far the best carrier for devs if you buy a carrier locked device. VZW and ATT are by far worse, and Dish is still a joke of a network. Check out VZW and you'll see that even if you buy a Verizon carrier Pixel, you will NEVER be able to unlock it (without an exploit, see Pixel 3). This is unfortunately the Android situation in the US. The NE2217 actually allows you to oem unlock and get the unlock code from oneplus prior to getting the SIM unlocked, which was unheard of in the past. Too bad oneplus decided to **** that up by not having a MSM.
Regarding the OP's question: He's on an unlimited plan called Magenta, which has unlimited data but limited tethering of 5GB. No device sets limit on this, because T-Mobile measures hotspot usage with TTL value on the TCP packet. Technically, you can set the TTL to 65 on devices 1 hop from the phone and the network will never know it's tethered, but obviously you'll need to be using a device where you can modify the TTL. Some people use a 2nd router to achieve it, you'll find a lot of resources about this online.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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Global would be an improvement over t mobiles mess...
No I'm not in the US gladly, I wouldn't touch t mobile based on what I've read about it.
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
i use pdanet+
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We have a triopoly. Better than Canada though. If you can't stand tmo based on what you've seen on here, you would just not have any cell service and any discussion over phones would be moot lol.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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I have no idea what their network is but surely they offer sim only, in which case I'd buy the phone I wanted then contract the SIM I wanted....this has to be an option in every country.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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last i used it, pdanet+ has a module to block t-mobile, but you need to use it in tether mode. it's been a while since i needed to tether, buy looks like it might work via wifi now.
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Yeah that doesn't answer the OP's question at all. You can buy a NE2215, or a U1 Samsung, or unlocked Pixel, or an iPhone. Doesn't help that the network will measure hotspot usage the same way, with the TCP packet's TTL value.
And also to resolve your confusion. In the US, carriers do not sell SIM free devices ever. You need to buy from the manufacturer directly.
OP wants to know how to defeat network hotspot measurement. Ranting about how the carrier locks down the phone or even the manufacturer is not helpful. g96818's solution might work, but it's not guaranteed.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you? They do not offer a SIM free device, here in the UK we used to have EE do the same thing with mobile hotspot when it was called T-mobile then they need with orange.
People just stopped using them for that reason, it promoted the other networks like Three and even Vodafone. Soon as the then merged companies realised this they stopped doing it, as well as locking down bootloaders.. So the answer to the question is to swerve them believe it or not.
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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You need to chill lad...
T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with.
Also you're suggesting you can't buy a device SIM free??
Really?
I do not believe you at all.
My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?
@Strawboy good luck with your phone buddy, my stance is rigidly within sending it back, T-Mobile sound awful mate..
There may be a magisk module or otherwise that may help but you shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to use your phone. That's nuts.
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the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
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the tether limit isn't based on the device they sell, it's across all devices regardless if it's sim unlocked or not. In the past, you would edit the build prop and add one line to the global tables to bypass the tether check, but google changed that several android generations ago so now only pdanet+ was working for me.
It all depends on the plan your carrier offered. No carrier in the US offers unlimited tethering anymore and those lucky few who have it are all grandfathered plans that the carrier cannot change.
as far as i know, t-mobile has a bunch of restrictions, but it's also the cheapest, offers free 5G (vice an upgrade by other carriers), and offers unlimited data plans.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I'm aware that they capture data to identify hotspot usage.
Seems that Verizon offer unlimited, after an allotted amount of data they reduce the speed but it's still unlimited..
If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine...
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
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As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
btw, the unlimited i was talking about is without speed reduction.
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didn't realize verizon changed their plans to compete with t-mobile.
I will test that 40 gb hot spot limit and see if the speed drops afterwards. didn't realize they changed that. was only 5 gb tether when i signed up for the plan. it'll probably drop to 4G
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If it's there its there give it a whirl.
Tbh they probably do something similar in the UK but just lie to us and say it's "unlimited"
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As does t mobile.
3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh.
Seeing as it's 3G in 2022 it should max out.
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Holy spirit man, not only do you not know the answer to the OP's question other than aimlessly suggesting "magisk module", you decide to go to arms about market environments that you know nothing about. I don't tell you what's what in the UK, and you don't get to spread misguided misinformation for the US market.
"T-Mobile seems to be the only network selling a device that's a massive ballache to do anything with."
No, I've already stated this. Both ATT and VZW in the US lock their swans down more than TMO. TMO is by far the most dev friendly carrier if you wanted to get a carrier device. Buy manufacturer unlocked if you must, but if you want carrier deals, you are going to have the best option with TMO.
"My point is don't buy from T-Mobile, ever... Why would you if this is what they do to you?"
The phone is free or nearly free, that's why people put up with carrier phones, because of carrier deals. IDK about you, but I'm willing to go through the trouble of hacking up my devices than to pay an additional $800-$1000.
"Just checked with Verizon. They offer the device SIM free so your chatting bubbles pal"
Clueless reps at all 3 carriers will promise the flowering world, esp overseas chat reps. VERIZON DOES NOT EVER SELL SIM FREE, All VZW devices (even fully paid) will be SIM locked for 60 days as an "anti-fraud" measure. This even includes Verizon MVNOs. https://www.verizon.com/support/device-unlocking-policy/
Oh, and good luck ever accessing the bootloader of a VZW device.
"3G max speed is 42Mb down... That's perfectly fine for most people tbh."
"If you're still getting 50-100Mb then that's perfectly fine..."
Both offer unlimited at throttled speeds. Don't assume speed based on the technology. 50-100mbps isn't even normal on a good day for VZW LTE or DSS 5G
Verizon: After exceeding 50 GB/mo of 5G Ultra Wideband, 5G Nationwide, or 4G LTE data, you can still use hotspot at lower speeds of 3 Mbps when on 5G Ultra Wideband and 600 Kbps when on 5G Nationwide / 4G LTE for the rest of the month.
T-Mobile: "3G", but it is 600 Kbps on Magenta / Magenta Max
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Anyways, the OP's question's been answered, so I'm out. There are plenty of wireless hacking forums out there that can teach you to bypass restrictions that are against XDA rules and generally don't work on phones but other LTE/NR devices, Google it and you'll find it.
[kind reminder] People can get so passionate about their view on things, it's both amazing and frightening sometimes. Don't forget the person behind the username. [/kind reminder]
Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
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Thanks for the replies thus far.
I am currently using easytether and Netshare, and both work pretty well for me. I would just love to be able to use the native option without third party apps.
I had read about editing the build prop in the past but never had the chance to try it out.
I'll look into the TTL/TCP comment that was made as well.
Thanks!
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that got patched ages ago, plus you can't access the build prop on this phone.