This is such a great device, the only complain i have is that it lacks of custom rom and kernels
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lugiank said:
This is such a great device, the only complain i have is that it lacks of custom rom and kernels
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Don't know how to answer your question as devs on XDA are not paid to do this... it's more of a hobby. No way to tell what's going on in their heads. Also, custom ROMs and kernels is not a real complaint about a device.
lugiank said:
This is such a great device, the only complain i have is that it lacks of custom rom and kernels
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Because the Tab S2 uses Samsung's own Exynos 5433 processor, which is a lot harder more difficult to work with compared to Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor.
crowlaw said:
Because the Tab S2 uses Samsung's own Exynos 5433 processor, which is a lot harder more difficult to work with compared to Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor.
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Good insight. I'm awaiting delivery of mine right now, but I have noticed that it doesn't have the Dev support that devices released around the same time do. I got this largely because it has at least one custom ROM - thanks BigBot! - but it would be nice to see some of the more popular ROM support it too. I have no idea what I'm doing, but if I find the time, I may take a stab at cooking something up myself. Gotta wait for it to arrive first though!
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Because the Tab S2 uses Samsung's own Exynos 5433 processor, which is a lot harder more difficult to work with compared to Qualcomm's Snapdragon processor.
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It's not that the cpu is harder to work with, it's just that samsung are tight with the source code.
Qualcomm are much more forthcoming with theirs.
Also Samsung purposely attempt to prevent custom development and modifications to devices they build.
Add to that, that if many devices use the same processor or processor family it is much more likely that a developer will have one of those devices so he will be more motivated to to something with it and other devs can use their source. For example the exynos 5433 is used in the note 4 and that's basically it, i think, there is currently only raymanfx who's working with this specific SoC, so it isn't that easy. Concerning Qualcomm vs Exynos i'm actually not so sure about wether QC or sammy is more open right now, but if you compare for example the snapdragon 810, sd 808, sd 805 sd 800, they are often used in nexus phones, so there you have easy access to working with up to date source code. And since a company won't change that much regarding their best practices snapdragons will be similiar to other snapdragons and so on. The more a SoC is featured in different devices the more you will get dev support. Unfortunately that isn't the only criteria you will buy your device for, it might be a priority but certainly not the only one.
Just my two cents.
What shall developers to do? There are root, custom kernel, debloated stock, deodexed stock. There is ability to use Xposed and their modification modules. There are many launchers. What functionality we haven't and it is very important?
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Exactly.
Simply flash a 5.1.1 stock ROM, root, debloat, use Xposed etc.
Then you have a wonderful device.
No need for custom ROMs or custom kernels.
hasenbein1966 said:
Exactly.
Simply flash a 5.1.1 stock ROM, root, debloat, use Xposed etc.
Then you have a wonderful device.
No need for custom ROMs or custom kernels.
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True, which is why I prefer a lightly modified custom rom which I can customise.
Many rom builders go down the route of removing so much stuff from a stock rom that functionality is lost.
For me my tab s performs perfectly fine with the stock rom so I just customise it as I need.
I prefer the polished experience of a stock rom with all its bells and whistles on a premium device rather than removing all that and turning it into a basic run of the mill device.
To me building a rom is about providing a better experience with extra features and worthwhile tweaks not removing functionality.
hasenbein1966 said:
Exactly.
Simply flash a 5.1.1 stock ROM, root, debloat, use Xposed etc.
Then you have a wonderful device.
No need for custom ROMs or custom kernels.
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I'm flashing back to 5.0.1. Dunno why but samsung seem to favour this over 5.1.1 . All the latest firmware are based on 5.0.2
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I'm flashing back to 5.0.1. Dunno why but samsung seem to favour this over 5.1.1 . All the latest firmware are based on 5.0.2
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I was wondering if 5.1.1 has an advantage over 5.0.2. ? (talking about T810)
For my region (LUX), latest available firmware is still 5.0.2. (and I have a feeling Samsung will skip 5.1.1 because of android 6 that's coming later this year)
I was wondering if it is possible to flash 5.1.1 XAC (canada) or XAR (cellular south) on my device (with region LUX) and if yes, will I have a better experience?
Someone has an idea?
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I was wondering if 5.1.1 has an advantage over 5.0.2. ? (talking about T810)
For my region (LUX), latest available firmware is still 5.0.2. (and I have a feeling Samsung will skip 5.1.1 because of android 6 that's coming later this year)
I was wondering if it is possible to flash 5.1.1 XAC (canada) or XAR (cellular south) on my device (with region LUX) and if yes, will I have a better experience?
Someone has an idea?
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I was on latest 5.1.1 now on latest firmware based on 5.0.2. There's no difference what so ever. If anything it seems a bit better performance wise. It had a huge changelog too on sammobile
Is there a recommendation out there for a root method for the T810? I just received one for my birthday
I just want to run basic stock and debloat.
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Just my two cents.
What shall developers to do? There are root, custom kernel, debloated stock, deodexed stock. There is ability to use Xposed and their modification modules. There are many launchers. What functionality we haven't and it is very important?
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I am new to the Tab S2 family. I got mine yesterday but I have been reading through the Galaxy Tab S2 section here on xda. While I agree there is a root method, it's not ideal as there is the KNOX counter problem.
I came from mostly Nexus devices which don't have such a KNOX system.
I appreciate all the developers/tinkerers here who have done what they have to get root access to the Tab S2, but I really which someone has hacked a way to reset the KNOX counter. As is, I'm very reluctant to root my Tab S2. I didn't pay to buy a new tablet to immediately void my warranty. Laws my differ country to country, but in the USA, one definitely voids the warranty if one roots and installs custom recoveries onto one's device. So it's imperative to defeat KNOX or at least be able to reset this KNOX counter that Samsung has on its devices.
I was not aware of this KNOX system on Samsung devices. It really does seem counter to the Android system which touts openness. I'm very anti iPhones/iPads because of Apple's completely closed off eco-system but Samsung seems to want a similar kind of closed-off system for its Android devices. Had I known about this KNOX system, I'm not at all sure I'd have purchased a Tab S2.
Anyway, I do wish there were more active developers tinkering/hacking the Tab S2.
Just my 2 cents.
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I am new to the Tab S2 family. I got mine yesterday but I have been reading through the Galaxy Tab S2 section here on xda. While I agree there is a root method, it's not ideal as there is the KNOX counter problem.
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Yeah, I agreed, that KNOX is big problem without help of community.
I investigated a few and read about solution on Galaxy S6 Edge. They have engineering bootloader (but Samsung bans all links) and it supports only 5.0.2 roms (it supports 5.1.1 too, but without fingerprint function).
So, we need ENG bootloader too
Hey there. i have a s20 fe 5g (snapdragon, model SM-G781B), galaxy s8 (exynos), ans galaxy tab A 7.0 2016. Right now I managed to install Android 13 (Lineage OS 20 + NikGapps + Magisk for safetynet) on my backup s8 aswell I managed to flash Lineage os 14 (Android 7, along with Gapps) on my galaxy tab A. Im wondering to do the same about my S20 FE 5G since its support is unfortunately about to end. Thought of flashing TurboUI after i would unlock my device but just want to confirm its safe before doing so. What you guys think? Many thanks.
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Hey there. i have a s20 fe 5g (snapdragon, model SM-G781B), galaxy s8 (exynos), ans galaxy tab A 7.0 2016. Right now I managed to install Android 13 (Lineage OS 20 + NikGapps + Magisk for safetynet) on my backup s8 aswell I managed to flash Lineage os 14 (Android 7, along with Gapps) on my galaxy tab A. Im wondering to do the same about my S20 FE 5G since its support is unfortunately about to end. Thought of flashing TurboUI after i would unlock my device but just want to confirm its safe before doing so. What you guys think? Many thanks.
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Hello
This will depend on what use you will give it.
Apparently you are not interested in any of the OneUi customization layer, nor Samsung Dex.
Personally, I am not interested in lineageOS or any rom that is not based on OneUi.
well with many errors, be fighting with incompatibility.
you will find GSI, Lineageos, etc.
I preferred stock rom with modified kernel, androd 13 will not stop working in 2023,2024,2025, etc.
I don't see the importance of moving to an invented and beta system for the team, at least at present.
You will find among the best options:
*stock,root,kernel(bandit,klimbo,etc)
*Turboui v4
*GSI.
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Hello
This will depend on what use you will give it.
Apparently you are not interested in any of the OneUi customization layer, nor Samsung Dex.
Personally, I am not interested in lineageOS or any rom that is not based on OneUi.
well with many errors, be fighting with incompatibility.
you will find GSI, Lineageos, etc.
I preferred stock rom with modified kernel, androd 13 will not stop working in 2023,2024,2025, etc.
I don't see the importance of moving to an invented and beta system for the team, at least at present.
You will find among the best options:
*stock,root,kernel(bandit,klimbo,etc)
*Turboui v4
*GSI.
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Rn my S20 FE 5G is at binary 5. I dont care about rollbacking because i do like the latest verisons and have no use to move onto earlier versions. I just wonder if binary 5 would only limit me to this android 13 one ui 5.1 (like if i couldnt install an android 13 or even a future android 14 rom only because of binary 5). Would it be safe to switch to a custom rom that has the same patch and the same android version without binary 5 doing mess there (like i want to install the latest turboUI at one ui 5.1 may patch, is that possible?)
Rn the device is at may security update, I hope it solved this problem so I could safely move to custom rom without further issues. If I had screwed please let me know as possible to I could reconsider before doing so avoiding further damage. And yeah I have checked OEM unlock and it appears so i believe no issues should occur, just should factory reset (among with removing samsung and google accounts before doing so), enable debugging and oem unlock, go to download mode and then unlock bootloader, and then flash twrp and then whatever i think so.
And yeah I prefer one UI over stock android however the latest custom one ui version for s8 was only one ui 2.5 (hades rom) and no one even dares to make a new one for it, is just dead there. I felt urged to install android 13 so i had no choice but to flash LineageOS 20 (along with nikgapps and magisk). Meanwhile the S9 can get even one ui 5.1 ported via noble rom. I wish something would be done despite being 3 years already since.
But still I won't have prob flashing kernels instead of custom roms if so. Thank you very much.
Alright, just managed to install TurboUI without issues and against all odds.
I was worried because the new binary would mess there but still I managed to do it without issues, and I feel grateful for it
Speechless.
I can't appeal your urges to desperately switch roms.
reading the previous thing you wrote, I have nothing more to say.
If you have errors in the future, please go to the appropriate channels, (turboui, gsi tem, etc.)
Thus, avoid publications due to user errors without investigating before installing.
excellent day.
mezacorleehone said:
Speechless.
I can't appeal your urges to desperately switch roms.
reading the previous thing you wrote, I have nothing more to say.
If you have errors in the future, please go to the appropriate channels, (turboui, gsi tem, etc.)
Thus, avoid publications due to user errors without investigating before installing.
excellent day.
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Alright, have to admit, learnt the hard way
there is SEVERE lack of custom roms there. The lineage OS cant mix with gapps and the custom one ui rom drains battery faster. I had no choice to revert to stock rom. I downloaded its firmware of april patch. Flashed it using Odin and it worked successfully!
You can call me an idiot for the rest of my life as you wish, i had should considered before doing so. Anyways I feel grateful for restoring its rom. But anyways if I would need safetynet I would welcome myself to do so.
I should learn more before installing these stupid roms. Maybe i will continue flashing on S8 but i wont longer flash on S20 FE since that incident. (And noice, the software firmware not matching, aka red message on bot disappear!)
If you have any suggestions youre welcome to tell me so, sorry for not beliving you at first. I should owe you everything
Have a nice night, ig, and I should learn much from that
I understand your inspiration to improve performance.
I've been doing this from symbian (nokia, sony ericcson, palm, blackberry, ios)
current times are not the same.
we are with more powerful processors.
larger and faster ram memories.
Over the years it took me to understand that it is currently not necessary to change the rom.
Example: you are with a s20 FE android 13, it is a completely current system, recently released last December.
I would not have to go to lineageOs, why?
Why did android 14 come out for lineageOs?
I'll have to break down my s20, of course not.
Seeking to get the most out of Oneui with a kernel that exploits its characteristics and without system bugs, seems to me to be a more suitable option.
When it is 2026 or 2027 see GSI options would be a good option.
repeat again, it is a personal thought, for so long I learned, to free myself from stress and constant mistakes.
mezacorleehone said:
I understand your inspiration to improve performance.
I've been doing this from symbian (nokia, sony ericcson, palm, blackberry, ios)
current times are not the same.
we are with more powerful processors.
larger and faster ram memories.
Over the years it took me to understand that it is currently not necessary to change the rom.
Example: you are with a s20 FE android 13, it is a completely current system, recently released last December.
I would not have to go to lineageOs, why?
Why did android 14 come out for lineageOs?
I'll have to break down my s20, of course not.
Seeking to get the most out of Oneui with a kernel that exploits its characteristics and without system bugs, seems to me to be a more suitable option.
When it is 2026 or 2027 see GSI options would be a good option.
repeat again, it is a personal thought, for so long I learned, to free myself from stress and constant mistakes.
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Alright, just finished relocking my bootloader. Yeah, no more software updates but I can still download them online, and they are security updates so i guess not really a big loss because no more OS updates (One ui 5.1 is final!). Still I HAVE to learn from this incident onwards, maybe on 3 years whenever the device would be too old like the s8 only then i would reconsider doing so. But for now I would stay with this stock rom and I would keep updating it time to time as needed. Everyone makes mistakes anyways. And yeah bank apps continue to work despite device not being play certified, so I guess no root and safetynet would be required. Still, Im very sorry for now trusting you, and I would from now reconsider what Im doing. Lets hope it wont happen even again, peace
Edit: Also managed to get OTA updates and play certification back after relocking it, noice, updating to may patch shortly after recovering my data
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Alright, just finished relocking my bootloader. Yeah, no more software updates but I can still download them online, and they are security updates so i guess not really a big loss because no more OS updates (One ui 5.1 is final!). Still I HAVE to learn from this incident onwards, maybe on 3 years whenever the device would be too old like the s8 only then i would reconsider doing so. But for now I would stay with this stock rom and I would keep updating it time to time as needed. Everyone makes mistakes anyways. And yeah bank apps continue to work despite device not being play certified, so I guess no root and safetynet would be required. Still, Im very sorry for now trusting you, and I would from now reconsider what Im doing. Lets hope it wont happen even again, peace
Edit: Also managed to get OTA updates and play certification back after relocking it, noice, updating to may patch shortly after recovering my data
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I understand
my team is a:
G781B Oneui 5.1 patch February binary 4.
I'm in stock, recovery, no encryption, root, kernel Klimbo or bandit.
I am more than satisfied.
a kernel that delivers power, overclock, etc.
For games it is plenty, for daily use it is wonderful.
Sorry if my previous translation sounds harsh.
Only that I currently install several roms, kernels, graphic drivers, etc.
they only cause bugs.
If you are looking for something stable I recommend stock and what I mention.
greetings.
In banking matters, there are modules for magisk, they worked for me.
mezacorleehone said:
I understand
my team is a:
G781B Oneui 5.1 patch February binary 4.
I'm in stock, recovery, no encryption, root, kernel Klimbo or bandit.
I am more than satisfied.
a kernel that delivers power, overclock, etc.
For games it is plenty, for daily use it is wonderful.
Sorry if my previous translation sounds harsh.
Only that I currently install several roms, kernels, graphic drivers, etc.
they only cause bugs.
If you are looking for something stable I recommend stock and what I mention.
greetings.
In banking matters, there are modules for magisk, they worked for me.
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Yeah as I relocked my bootloader play certification and ota updates came back
No longer trusting those BS roms, only losers would do so. That rom has drained me much battery and only let me charge at 3W (Yeah I have charger with display, and this occured in real life!)?! What a BS rom tbh! The only positive point I managed to find was the Google feed, but who would burn their battery away just for google feed?! After reflashing stock rom much better!
Very important thing to consider if you even think about flashing a custom rom on your S20 FE 5G. DONT DO IT, YOU WOULD REGRET IT SHORTLY.
I have unlocked bootloader and OEM root.
Even so, I get updates that obviously I will not update.
The last strong update was 5.1 in February. We will not have 6.0, there is no point in updating.
I can go back from android 13 to 12 and 11. Is it necessary? No, but I have the option.
greetings.
mezacorleehone said:
I have unlocked bootloader and OEM root.
Even so, I get updates that obviously I will not update.
The last strong update was 5.1 in February. We will not have 6.0, there is no point in updating.
I can go back from android 13 to 12 and 11. Is it necessary? No, but I have the option.
greetings.
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In the end security updates should protect us from any kind of exploits, including dangerous ones
But as the devices continues to discontinue (I mean, from october 2023 will start Quarterly updates and year later fully discontinued, the point would of course rise again. But until this happens the custom roms have a chance to delelop as time is going, and if there wont be atleast 1 GOOD custom rom, whats the point to attempt to flash a human managed ROM just to later report bugs to them, impacting your daily basis and ect?
After the last security update on about 2024 I believe custom roms would have chance to rise again, just like it was with the S8. S8 ROMs are better than the S20 FE 5G's ones. I need this time to let the custom roms develop, and once they are developed enough I would reconsider on installing one.
Until then, good luck
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In the end security updates should protect us from any kind of exploits, including dangerous ones
But as the devices continues to discontinue (I mean, from october 2023 will start Quarterly updates and year later fully discontinued, the point would of course rise again. But until this happens the custom roms have a chance to delelop as time is going, and if there wont be atleast 1 GOOD custom rom, whats the point to attempt to flash a human managed ROM just to later report bugs to them, impacting your daily basis and ect?
After the last security update on about 2024 I believe custom roms would have chance to rise again, just like it was with the S8. S8 ROMs are better than the S20 FE 5G's ones. I need this time to let the custom roms develop, and once they are developed enough I would reconsider on installing one.
Until then, good luck
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I understand you.
The people who have the time to try the roms are appreciated and they are the ones who help the development.
in 2018 i had s9 snapdragon 845.
I was on oneui 2.5 android 10.
in your case you acquired s9 exynos. a jewel to know that note 10 lite would carry android 12 and 13.
They gave me an A7 2017, said note 10 lite managed to port oneui 2.5 android 10 (official was in 8.0 oreo)
I'm assuming your s9 runs android 13.
only that samsung Dex and iris lose or am I wrong?
Anyway, for day-to-day use, having the s9 with android 13 is great.
Yes, the roms for the s8 will be better, because the years have passed and the project is more mature.
mezacorleehone said:
I understand you.
The people who have the time to try the roms are appreciated and they are the ones who help the development.
in 2018 i had s9 snapdragon 845.
I was on oneui 2.5 android 10.
in your case you acquired s9 exynos. a jewel to know that note 10 lite would carry android 12 and 13.
They gave me an A7 2017, said note 10 lite managed to port oneui 2.5 android 10 (official was in 8.0 oreo)
I'm assuming your s9 runs android 13.
only that samsung Dex and iris lose or am I wrong?
Anyway, for day-to-day use, having the s9 with android 13 is great.
Yes, the roms for the s8 will be better, because the years have passed and the project is more mature.
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I never had a s9 but I have a s8. The only problem with the S8 was that its latest One UI Rom is only maxed at One Ui 2.5 (Android 10, Hades ROM). Thats the only main one UI port available. You want to upgrade software? flash lineageOS then! Pretty dissapointing S8 only supports One UI 2.5 max meanwhile S9 supports one ui 5 max. And note 10 lite doesnt have as many custom roms as the S9. So just like the s8 got locked at one ui 2.5, the s9 would also lock at one ui 5? and after getting locked would the s9 users be forced to install stock android, just like on the case of the S8 users which the same happened to them earlier?
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I never had a s9 but I have a s8. The only problem with the S8 was that its latest One UI Rom is only maxed at One Ui 2.5 (Android 10, Hades ROM). Thats the only main one UI port available. You want to upgrade software? flash lineageOS then! Pretty dissapointing S8 only supports One UI 2.5 max meanwhile S9 supports one ui 5 max. And note 10 lite doesnt have as many custom roms as the S9. So just like the s8 got locked at one ui 2.5, the s9 would also lock at one ui 5? and after getting locked would the s9 users be forced to install stock android, just like on the case of the S8 users which the same happened to to earlier?
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In the case of the s8 it is to be in 2.5 with android 10.
is a candidate for lineageos or gsi.
the exynos s9 will have up to oneui 5.1 ported from note 10 lite.
remember that originally it would be in 2.5 android 10.
you can still live with the s9 with note lite size on android13.
or at best go to s20 fe
Alright, an update after a while
Managed to successfully resolve the issue with Samsung health not working: I have installed a patched version and it's working like new. Just to note I shouldn't update it in any case. The only question is if it would sync with the watch. I mean it already can sync with the account, but I would to test it with the watch too. If everything is going fine I have no prob returning to Samsung. The fact I even didn't had to root to install modules only to patch this issue was wonderfull.
About secure folder and Samsung pass I don't care anymore about them and I had barely used them too, and I have no issue leaving them alone. Instead of secure folder I can use Google photo's safe to store my naughty photos, and about Samsung pass I can use Google passwords instead. Galaxy wearable has worked from day 1 since the issue no matter the incident.
This is a big lesson for my ass, and I shall be smart before doing naughty things like this again. Kids, please learn from me and don't be a stupid guy like me.