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I never owned a OnePlus or Xiaomi phone before. Im currently rocking a Galaxy S7 but it got very slow and battery life sucks.
Which one should I get? How long do OnePlus/Xiaomi support their devices with Android updates?
pros for Xiaomi Mi 8:
- better screen (non-pentile matrix, HDR, 600 nits)
- probably better camera (dxomark score)
- cheaper than OP6 (~100 USD cheaper with import taxes etc.)
pros for OP6:
- probably faster UI/navigation speed
- smaller notch
- almost stock Android
- headphone jack (but not important to me)
If you have more arguments for OP6 or the Mi 8, please comment.
Looking to buy in the next 2 months.
I would say, if the Mi 8 got USB 3.1 support that is the device I will choose (op6 does not).
And for the OS I don't worry too much, since i'll flash them anyway
I have most of the oneplus devices, but the biggest bummer of them all is no USB 3.1 support.
Mi 8 got IMX363 Camera sensor with 1.8 aperture and 1.4um pixel size which have the same spec as Pixel 2 camera. I think it would have better Google Camera Mod potential than Oneplus 6.
Oneplus 6 got GCam support too, but as it got a smaller pixel size sensor, I think the image quality will not as good as Mi 8 when they both running GCam Mod.
Better camera, better screen, 20 times better front camera, better gps, better speaker (OP6 is unreal bad/can't be better) and cheaper.
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- better screen (non-pentile matrix, HDR, 600 nits)
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Slightly off topic here... But what's the difference between a non-pentile and a pentile matrix?
@mariogrip
why is that so important ? I only plug my phone to USB when I need to charge it.
@Klanac89
Have you heard the OP6 speaker in person? Does the Mi 8 have dual speakers? Maybe there will be a soundmod in the future to support dualmod speakers.
@TheInfiniteAndroid
you should read this article on XDA: https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-display-analysis-compared-oneplus-5t/
It does not matter because my 100 and 200€ devices have much better sound than the OP6. In other word you will think "wtf is this" and "there is nomwqy to find cheaper speakers". I was really shocked.
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It does not matter because my 100 and 200€ devices have much better sound than the OP6. In other word you will think "wtf is this" and "there is nomwqy to find cheaper speakers". I was really shocked.
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Agree. I returned my Oneplus 6 because of the speaker too. Comparing with my Mate 10, it is just unacceptable.
Volume is way too low, if you push all the way up the volume, it is still not loud enough and the sound starting to distort too.
Vibration is weak too, combine with low volume speaker means lots of miss call.
Xiaomi wins.
Disadvantages OP6:
- Weak Speaker (Mi 8 speakers haven't been tested but are hopefully good in sacrifice of the HP-Jack)
- VoLTE not everywhere in world
- Reported bad telephone quality (maybe SW-Update will help)
Only advantage of the OP6 is the smaller notch.
The phones are pretty similiar, but Xiaomi is a bit better and compensates the weaknesses of the OP.
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Agree. I returned my Oneplus 6 because of the speaker too. Comparing with my Mate 10, it is just unacceptable.
Volume is way too low, if you push all the way up the volume, it is still not loud enough and the sound starting to distort too.
Vibration is weak too, combine with low volume speaker means lots of miss call.
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As you have had a OnePlus 6.
May I ask, rumour has it Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 will come in September. I'm thinking of getting that Vs OP 6 Vs OP 6T.
What are your thoughts, if you would be so kind ?
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As you have had a OnePlus 6.
May I ask, rumour has it Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 will come in September. I'm thinking of getting that Vs OP 6 Vs OP 6T.
What are your thoughts, if you would be so kind ?
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I have no idea about MIX 3 as we have very limited information at the moment.
If it got similar design as the previous model, I think I would not pick the MIX as I don't want to turn my phone up side down every time I try to take a selfie.
Every MIX series phone got very poor front camera quality too.
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I have no idea about MIX 3 as we have very limited information at the moment.
If it got similar design as the previous model, I think I would not pick the MIX as I don't want to turn my phone up side down every time I try to take a selfie.
Every MIX series phone got very poor front camera quality too.
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Ok thanks. Shall wait and see.
@SlyUK Dude, nobody knows anything about Mix 3 or OP6T. So nobody knows how good/bad value they will be. What do u expect as an answer here? Maybe they're both **** and the Lenovo Z5 will be a gamechanger till then... nobody knows.
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@SlyUK Dude, nobody knows anything about Mix 3 or OP6T. So nobody knows how good/bad value they will be. What do u expect as an answer here? Maybe they're both **** and the Lenovo Z5 will be a gamechanger till then... nobody knows.
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I was going on the basis (or calibre) of the pre existing Mi Mix 2S and OnePlus 6.
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In hindsight, silly question until both unveiled.
@lieblingsbesuch With reference to the Lenovo Z5 that you mentioned above:
https://www.androidauthority.com/lenovo-z5-872646/
Xiaomi will release kernel source code for MI8 next year... maybe. Before that i can't recommend anyone to buy that device.
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Xiaomi will release kernel source code for MI8 next year... maybe. Before that i can't recommend anyone to buy that device.
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Like on the Mi Mix 2s.
Release Mi Mix 2s 03/2018 and 04/2018 kernel source.
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@SlyUK Dude, nobody knows anything about Mix 3 or OP6T. So nobody knows how good/bad value they will be. What do u expect as an answer here? Maybe they're both **** and the Lenovo Z5 will be a gamechanger till then... nobody knows.
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How exactly is the Lenovo Z5 a game changer?
Snapdragon 636
64GB storage
6GB RAM
3,300mah battery
Notch
Seems like a typical 2018 device tbh...
Dude, this was an example to emphasize that it's not useful to speculate about any phone that has not been unveiled yet. Never said this Lenovo thingy will be a game changer. Please read twice before you.
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and the Lenovo Z5 will be a gamechanger
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Is that not you saying it will be a game changer, regardless this is a Mi 8 or OnePlus 6 thread, not Lenovo :good:
Camera and battery life are key areas for me
Which would you choose
Camera wise the Mi 8 is better however the poco's battery life should be longer and Poco's receiving L1 support
Mi8, because of camera and display. There should be no issues with the battery life since MIUI is heavily blocking background applications.
If you need a headphone jack, just go for Pocophone.
poco doesnt have nfc also
my mi 8 speaker is very muted, battery life is ok,
camera is ok and gets great with gcam port.
If you are looking in other options, I would recommend S9 Plus if you would spend some extra cash.
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Camera and battery life are key areas for me
Which would you choose
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Mi8
First get LTE bands practically everywhere while Poco is mostly a 3G phone fior many countries.
Mi8 has a much better display, is not made of plastic, is better looking period, has a much better camera. In fact the mi* camera is stellar.
I get 9 hours SOT using the Global Beta 9.3.7 Rom
The Mi8 has only one speaker ( its biggest drawback) However, it is loud and sounds good, and thanks to convolution reverb it will sound like stereo.
I bought 2 p30 pros. Bothwith the cheapest China headphones. I came from the s8 plus, and I have to say the AKGs that came with the Samsung have quality. These headphones that came with the p30 pro are ****. Like the crappy iPhone knockoff headphones ... Seriously. Am I the only one?
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I bought 2 p30 pros. Bothwith the cheapest China headphones. I came from the s8 plus, and I have to say the AKGs that came with the Samsung have quality. These headphones that came with the p30 pro are ****. Like the crappy iPhone knockoff headphones ... Seriously. Am I the only one?
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No u r not but i have to say im not using them not just because they r crappy but because im using wireless one for some time now. So, u r right but its not important for me.
milangenije said:
No u r not but i have to say im not using them not just because they r crappy but because im using wireless one for some time now. So, u r right but its not important for me.
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this is a region thing
Some region's carriers remove the headphones, others replace them with cheaper options.
The ones I have are standard quality. Not great, about similar to Apple quality.
The AKG "tuned" ones Samsung provides are better, but not much. Again, I wouldnt say they are great either
If you care about the quality of your headphones, why would you ever use the ones that came with any phone? Any good set of headphones will work with any phone. I'd rather phones came with terribly cheap headphones, so I don't waste money paying for things I won't use.
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I bought 2 p30 pros. Bothwith the cheapest China headphones. I came from the s8 plus, and I have to say the AKGs that came with the Samsung have quality. These headphones that came with the p30 pro are ****. Like the crappy iPhone knockoff headphones ... Seriously. Am I the only one?
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In europe the Huawai headphone that came together with the phones where never really good.
Because of that ive bought those:
"Huawei Active Noise Canceling Earphone 3" and also figured out that the P30 pro is worse in terms of music compared to the Mate 10 pro.
firithmorgulion said:
In europe the Huawai headphone that came together with the phones where never really good.
Because of that ive bought those:
"Huawei Active Noise Canceling Earphone 3" and also figured out that the P30 pro is worse in terms of music compared to the Mate 10 pro.
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I'm curious as to what setup you're using that you've found the P30 Pro worse for music. I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality of BT audio from the P30 Pro using LDAC compatible devices.
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I'm curious as to what setup you're using that you've found the P30 Pro worse for music. I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality of BT audio from the P30 Pro using LDAC compatible devices.
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Iam using no BT headphones, iam using those:
https://consumer.huawei.com/at/accessories/earphones-cm-q3/
for both, the Mate 10 Pro and P30 pro and the P30 does not sound as good as the Mate.
Definitely it's the worst headphones that I have.. For a flagship, even if I won't use it, I expected more quality.
Hi everyone,
I want to buy a smartphone - but stuck between Op 7 or K20 pro ? Can't make my mind - which one should I buy ?
Any suggestion/ advice will be highly appreciated.
They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.
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They are pretty similar. Run on the same platform, CPU, GPU. Both AMOLED, same resolution.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has an audio jack, OP7 does not.
OP7 has stereo speakers, K20p/9Tp does not.
The K20pro / 9Tpro has FM radio, OP7 does not.
I believe the OP7 has OIS on the main camera, K20pro/9Tpro does not.
The OP7 has a (small) notch in the screen. The K20pro/9Tpro has a popup front facing camera.
K20pro/9Tpro has a somewhat bigger battery.
For me personally, the popup cam is not a problem because I don't use face-unlock or take selfies, and having a full notch-less display is very nice.
I imagine that if you're the kind of person that uses the front facing camera a lot, the popup camera becomes annoying pretty fast. (but I don't know because I'm not that person)
FM radio is a feature I really like to have, but I'm probably alone in that one.
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Thanks mate for your detailed comparison .
I don't use face-unlock and selfies like you. So it 'll not be any issue for me. Though I don't like Pop-Up camera. But I really like stereo speakers.
BTW, how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
OP7 has almost no development - unlike the K 20 Pro.
But I really don't like the bootloader unlocking procedure of Xiaomi. It's really annoying (really)to me.
Would you throw some lights on the multi-media experiences of K20 Pro - 3.5 mm audio quality, watching video/movie experience etc.? Really it's very important to me.
Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
Thank you once again for your reply.
K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.
I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.
Micheal86 said:
[...]how's the battery life of K20 pro ?
[...]Which one would be better for multi-media between these two ?
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I am probably not the best judge. I don't have an OP7, have only used this device (European 9Tpro) for under 2 weeks now and my previous phone was almost 5 years old. To me, watching video on the notch-less OLED and listening through simple wired earphones is very good.
Battery life is good. In normal day to day use when I'm not traveling, I can charge it every 2 days. In heavy use it will still last a full day easy. I have everything on all the time (wifi, sync, location, bluetooth, ambient display).
I plan to keep mine stock and locked for at least the first month, but yes from what I read on these forums, unlocking and flashing is more cumbersome and has more pitfalls than I'm used to from HTC devices.
My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))
U should also check the asus rog 2 if u are not bothered by large bezels
Anonda said:
I was confused about that last few days, finally bought k20 pro, for 3.5 mm audio jack and price difference. audio, movies and camera are great.
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Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?
lrcquest said:
My previous phone was OP7.
k20pro 256gb + 27watt charger costs less than Op7. So price wise this is a win.
Face unlock is a breeze in Op7. Miss that comfort on k20 pro. Though always on fingerprint is good & serves the purpose.
4000 mah battery & miui battery management works wonders. Always end up with 30+ at the end of the day. On Op7, it would be about less than 20% by the end of the day.
Oxygen os is really clean. But it lacks serious customisation. Miui is eyecandy & won't get boring. This is probably the only factor for me to switch from op7.
Also, since op7 was just a minor upgrade from 6T, better to wait for Op7t (with 90hz).
But beware of your purchase now, the price of K20PRO will see drop Faster than op7 in very short period of time. (Already price cut of Rs 2000 announced in India (flipkart))
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Excellent comparison. :good:
Really appreciate .
Totally agree with you - OP7 is a minor upgrade from 6T. And Miui is eyecandy and has more customisations.
BTW, the same question I want to ask you - Are satisfied by switching from OP7 to Redmi K20 Pro ?
Rhoban said:
K20 Pro has a HiFi DAC built-in. It's 24 bits / 192 KHz.
So it has the ability to play High Definition audio.
You don't really need to unlock the bootloader unless you really need root for something or actually want to change ROMs.
I used the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool to disable apps that I don't use. MIUI isn't that bad, for now at least.
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Thanks for sharing the most important feature - audio quality of K20 Pro.
What's your feedback about the headphone audio quality of K20 Pro?
Is it really awesome or average ?
I like to use rooted device. And that's why I don't like Xiaomi for their bootloader unlocking policy.
Appreciate your ADB/Fastboot procedure for deblauting.
BTW, I had some bad experiences with RN7 Pro - MTP incompatibility. My Windows PC can't recognized RN7 Pro and can't install the drivers. And finally I'd to sale RN7 Pro due to this issue. Is there any MTP/ Driver issue with K20 Pro ?
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if op7 has no notch i would have gotten it to try this oxygen os ,coming from pocophone which is mine spare phone now ,glad i dont to face with a notch all day , to me op7 just look like a 6t , by the way i have no issue connecting mine pc (win 7) to k20 pro
Yes, i really am enjoying the k20 pro. Yesterday, the android 10 OTA was received. So that also is covered.
And miui 11 is on the way by end of the year.
Btw, if u are looking for Op7T for the 90hz display, K20PRO can also reach around 80hz thru mods. Both are 1080 oled panels.
On a related note, asus rog 2 has got some Insane specs for a sweet price (128/8 ) Rs 38k.
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
Micheal86 said:
Thanks for sharing.
Would you share your feedback regarding my doubts ?
Have you satified with your K20 Pro ?
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Just the display looking small, because my previous device is Mi Max 2..
all others are great,
maddy143ded said:
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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Max 2000 drop it seems.
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Max 2000 drop it seems.
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Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..
maddy143ded said:
K20pro is going to be sold for less then 24999 during the sale season... That's a huge price drop for such a new device and it's cheating for those who bought this device from the start.....
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It doesn't bother me much. I bought it for Rs. 25999 during the alpha sale.
maddy143ded said:
Nope Max drop will be ₹3500 if you are taking into account the initial ₹2000 into account. Even in current sale a minimum card discount is going to be there for atleast ₹1500. As a loyalist I feel that companies should atleast hold onto their prices for 6 months man. If you ever want to resell your device within this timefram now you will face a huge challenge trying to resell. Not that I would be doing that. Its about percieved difference of going from Base bottom Budget Brand to a Premium Brand... They went back to being a budget only Brand with this move. Thats really Bad. I would gladly buy their Premium range of Phones of the Mi Series(I owned a MI3 and Mi5) But they don't release them here in India anymore..
If a Brand wants to induce a loyalty in its customer base they should be prepared to be loyal in return. This doesnt feel like loyalty..
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probably mi 9 pro is out , they wants to clear stocks , anyway their mi series doesnt hold the price well
Hi,
I had to sell my month-old Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S due to annoying bugs, like random wifi disconnections with the screen off and very low volume with bluetooth audio devices.
So, I'm looking for a new phone (not Xiaomi for obvious reasons, I think most bugs are because MIUI implementation), and the Realme X2 Pro is one of my candidates -the one I like the most-, but i'm concerned about some issues. I've read that the cameras aren't good in low light conditions and there are some lags in the UI. There are still present to this date? I'm not worried about some lag, my interest is to have stable wifi connection, good bluetooth audio (I have Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones) and good battery backup. Is there any known issue?
Do you recommend Realme X2 Pro?
Thanks!
Don't buy this phone sound output is so terrible and the camera isn't good enough!
xsam123 said:
Hi,
I had to sell my month-old Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S due to annoying bugs, like random wifi disconnections with the screen off and very low volume with bluetooth audio devices.
So, I'm looking for a new phone (not Xiaomi for obvious reasons, I think most bugs are because MIUI implementation), and the Realme X2 Pro is one of my candidates -the one I like the most-, but i'm concerned about some issues. I've read that the cameras aren't good in low light conditions and there are some lags in the UI. There are still present to this date? I'm not worried about some lag, my interest is to have stable wifi connection, good bluetooth audio (I have Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones) and good battery backup. Is there any known issue?
Do you recommend Realme X2 Pro?
Thanks!
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Battery is great and there are no lags in UI, it's pretty smooth. Also 90Hz display is a bliss and you can instantly notice the difference when you see a 60Hz display after using 90Hz for a while. Cameras are not perfect (mostly true for low light), but with GCam it's very good all around. It's just that the stock app is REALLY bad.
There are reviews of audio in detail, the audio via headphones and external amp is good, the speakers are amazing and with V4A you can get the one thing that they are missing: BASS.
I would recommend this phone as it's the best you can get for the money in my opinion. If you want best of the best of course there are options out there like the S20, Huawei P40, Mi 10 Pro, but is it worth it?
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Don't buy this phone sound output is so terrible and the camera isn't good enough!
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So please tell me what's better for the same money?
adsubzero said:
Battery is great and there are no lags in UI, it's pretty smooth. Also 90Hz display is a bliss and you can instantly notice the difference when you see a 60Hz display after using 90Hz for a while. Cameras are not perfect (mostly true for low light), but with GCam it's very good all around. It's just that the stock app is REALLY bad.
There are reviews of audio in detail, the audio via headphones and external amp is good, the speakers are amazing and with V4A you can get the one thing that they are missing: BASS.
I would recommend this phone as it's the best you can get for the money in my opinion. If you want best of the best of course there are options out there like the S20, Huawei P40, Mi 10 Pro, but is it worth it?
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So please tell me what's better for the same money?
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Really I'm not expet at phones enough but as an ex xiaomian, I believe that xiaomi phones is better in overall, MIUI is better hardware is better, customization is more better except for the signals thing I would recommend you Mi or K series!!
Don't listen to this guy.
I went from mi9t pro to this phone, and man: better performance, better signal and wifi, better video recording, much better screen, incredible speakers. Yes 3.5mm output is low, but i use bluetooth headseat anyway.
Would recommend this phone to just anyone.
The X2 pro is an affordable beast with A++ specs and RealmeUI is butterfly smooth,
90 Hz,dual speakers,quad Cera,UFS 3.0 storage,50 watt charging,
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Obviously way better than the likes of the 9T pro or pretty much any phone from last year for the price,
Still holds up well this year as the SD 855+ is close to the 865,
IMO, everything is great with this phone, cameras are good too, particularly with gcam which I use now all the time,sound output is really good too but I don't use earphones
Agree...moved from K20 pro. I can say realme ui is much better than miui. No issue so far. Best phone compare by price
My wife has the Mi 9T (K20), and even if it was better in almost all specs (camera, SoC, speakers...) than the X2 Pro (which it's not) I still wouldn't take it because of the 90Hz display. Also what I forgot to mention in my first post is that the charging speed is just mind blowing.
But there's no contest, the X2 Pro is a better phone than the Mi 9T Pro (K20 Pro), period.
If there is something better than the X2 Pro in the same price range I would like to hear it.