Question Google Pay on X90 pro+ - Vivo X90 Pro Plus

Was about to pull the trigger on the Vivo when I saw this on Wondamobile.
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I use gpay for all my card transactions - do I understand it correctly that it will not work on the pro+ and thus won't be able to use the phone for transactions?
That would be a total deal-breaker for me!

It does work, however google play itself will not update itself, so then google wallet stops working and you need to get google play from a third party website to update it. For wallet to work play services and play store need to be on same update level.
There's plenty of small google problems usually not mentioned, and then no one can guarantee that google doesn't require wallet to be a system app in future..
Google likely will go harder on this as many governments require them to make apps optional from Android and they could avoid it by just making them working as a system app forcing manufacturers to include them. It's a strategy google has clearly added to lately due to court decisions in various countries.
So right now it works, but with any google service on Chinese phones future versions full working gets less likely.
You can see on older vivo phones it often stopped working for some days to weeks too. Cannot count on it working though so far it mainly did.

I have Google Wallet (Google Pay) working fine for me once I enabled Google services.
Haven't had an issue with it (I'm in Australia).

br3tty said:
I have Google Wallet (Google Pay) working fine for me once I enabled Google services.
Haven't had an issue with it (I'm in Australia).
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Works for me too (Netherlands)

thanks. I'm in the UK. Perhaps they just forgot to update their page after Vivo firmware fixed the issue

Haskren said:
thanks. I'm in the UK. Perhaps they just forgot to update their page after Vivo firmware fixed the issue
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It never was an issue. I guess it's just a standard text they copied.

Google pay works fine for me in the uk

Google pay works fine for me in FR

No Google Pay issues for me in Singapore ( Vivo X90 Pro + (V2227A 12GB/512GB)

No problem to Greece too..i think they put it on Wonda just to be safe if its not working on someone.

is there a way to quick access the gpay screen from the phone being off(not off but locked etc)..and does one need that to be on it to make a payment? or just keep NFC on?

rudabb said:
is there a way to quick access the gpay screen from the phone being off(not off but locked etc)..and does one need that to be on it to make a payment? or just keep NFC on?
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Did you find a way to get a quick access when the phone is locked?

I have not been able to add my bank card to Google wallet on this phone - no issues on the old phone.
This is the answer from the bank
So - is this a UK issue or just my bank picking up on issues with the phone?

bojassom93 said:
Did you find a way to get a quick access when the phone is locked?
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No..but I realized that if my phone is unlocked through smart unlocked(while on me) all I have to do is tap the device on the machine and it works.I don't need to be in the app...
If you want to be in the app,I think there is an off screen shortcut where you can assign the app for it. It's the volume down button

Haskren said:
I have not been able to add my bank card to Google wallet on this phone - no issues on the old phone.
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This is the answer from the bankView attachment 5849513
So - is this a UK issue or just my bank picking up on issues with the phone?
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Can you add your card on other phones? It sounds more like your bank doesn't support google wallet. There are plenty who don't. Nothing to do with the phone! If you can add the card to other google wallets, then the problem is with your phone.

rudabb said:
No..but I realized that if my phone is unlocked through smart unlocked(while on me) all I have to do is tap the device on the machine and it works.I don't need to be in the app...
If you want to be in the app,I think there is an off screen shortcut where you can assign the app for it. It's the volume down button
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Yeah I did assign the volume down botton for it, thank you

welcome.

extremecarver said:
Can you add your card on other phones? It sounds more like your bank doesn't support google wallet. There are plenty who don't. Nothing to do with the phone! If you can add the card to other google wallets, then the problem is with your phone.
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Yes, Starling bank supports Google Wallet - I used same card and GW on my old phone

I had similar issue.maybebsimilar. I kind of changed the google play services file ..and I think the google Play store ..I went back to this forum and saw what they were using and used them. And then my card worked .

I think people having problems should throw down all google programs including play store and services from the phone and install them from scratch because it's likely due to the broken versions on vivo appstore.
Likely trading Shenzhen already installed some broke. Stuff. It just doesn't make sense otherwise. Everyone uses the same OS and hardware should not be different either except different batches.
In general don't install anything from vivo appstore to save yourself problems. Especially not Chinese apps as they are add infected from the vivo store.

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[MARKET WORKAROUND] Market 3.xx access to apps not available to your country

There are those lucky users who are able to fake a carrier and install apps not available in their country with Android Market 3.xx. I am but possibly the lesser ones who though managed to fake carriers using Market Enabler / Market Acess but still unable to search for apps which are not available to my country.
Now this is a working workaround method that I've tried using 2 types of Market Enabler available in the Market and also Market Access.
Who should be using this workaround?
Users who successfully faked a carrier using Market Access / Market Enabler with Android Market 3.xx but still unable to find certain apps within the new market 3.xx.
Tested Working with the following
Market Access
http://amip.tools-for.net/wiki/android/marketaccess
Market Enabler
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.notenking.mf&hl=en
Market Enabler
https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler&hl=en
1. Install Market Enabler or Market Access
2. Run Market Enabler / Market Access
3. Fake a carrier from within Market Enabler / Market Access
4. Open your browser
5. Search using keywords like "Google Earth Android Market"
6. Click on the searched results and select to open with "Market"
7. You will be re-directed to Android Market
8. Once market opens, you will see your desired app and will now be able to install.
9. Once you installed, I recommend you select "Allow automatic updating".
10. You may restore your value back to your original carrier.
11. From now onwards, if there is any updates (even though it is not available in your country) it will be automatically updated when available.
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Just my little experience: Pandora does not update if you don't fake the carrier, so auto update would fail.
Don't know but suppose this is valid for other apps too.
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erups said:
Just my little experience: Pandora does not update if you don't fake the carrier, so auto update would fail.
Don't know but suppose this is valid for other apps too.
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App
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I got books updated automatically without faking carrier.
But that's not my point of this post actually. The point is even with faked carrier I can't find the apps. So thru browser it actually finds it.
Nice find. Previously I had to revert to Market 2.x and install a paid app. It works through browser. Tnx
You're not allowed Google Earth? Wow, your country sucks
Good advice though, and I was able to update Google Books and Google Music automatically without faking, just needed it to install as you say.
Rusty! said:
You're not allowed Google Earth? Wow, your country sucks
Good advice though, and I was able to update Google Books and Google Music automatically without faking, just needed it to install as you say.
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Lolz I suppose u can say that. Quite a number of apps unavailable in my country (Singapore), though tiny island but famous around the world. Kinda contradicts ...
I got my N1 with Market 2.3.6. Easy to update with fake carrier but the new market on my O2x I can't find any. ..... till I use this workaround.
Guess it worked.
thx.......nice trick
Rusty! said:
You're not allowed Google Earth? Wow, your country sucks
Good advice though, and I was able to update Google Books and Google Music automatically without faking, just needed it to install as you say.
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Does this mean you can use your account to buy music and books even if you're not supposed to???
Well you can't buy any music with Google Music, so I doubt it. Can't say about books any more though, as it is now officially available in the UK.
Unless you use Market Enabler though, the books option wont appear in the Market, but with it you should be able to.
Rusty! said:
Well you can't buy any music with Google Music
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Yeah, my bad. Too excited

[Q] Trusted Places not working with 5.1

So after updating to 5.1, I'm finding Trusted Places isn't working in Smart Lock. Prior to this update it worked fine, although refused to recognize my Home and Work locations, forcing me to add them manually as new addresses. But now it actually shows my Home perfectly in a new, better interface, but no amount of turning my phone off and on, rebooting, or confirming my location with Google Maps will get it to not lock itself when I turn off the screen.
Now initially it would also crash Google Play Services when I'd go into the Trusted Devices screen or tap on my Home address, so then I updated to the latest Play Services and restarted. That seemed to resolve that, but it's since resulted in still usually crashing when it tries to pull my home address. I finally disabled Home, then added it manually, like I had to do int he past. It accepted it, but unlike in the past, it still won't work. Phone locks when I power it off, despite sitting right in the epicenter of that feature.
Anyone else seeing this? Anyone else manage to resolve this?
I haven't upgraded, but trusted places stopped working for me yesterday. I think it might have something to do with google play services.
Still on 5.0.1 myself and I ended up just turning the locking off because it was screwing up so much. So not sure it's a 5.1 thing.
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Trusted places not working here either. Still on 5.0.1 stock. This just started two days ago.
Trusted Places was working fine on 5.0.1. After upgrading to 5.1 I have the following happening
Trusted Places through Google Maps (Home, Work) Do not work
Trusted Places Manually added do work
Same here. Sideloaded OTA yesterday and TP fails. If you revert Play Services back to 6+ (5.1 takes it to 7+) it works fine, so a Google Play Services issue.
Also for me, I have a pin to start the phone. IT used to boot to the pin then stop there forever until you entered the pin. Now, it continues to booth "through" the pin screen and will take you to the (locked) main home screen. When you swipe up to unlock, the phone hangs and has to be hard rebooted - every time. They only way past this is to immediately enter your unlock pin when it first appears during the boot process, before the full system is up.
this happened to me as well but not from 5.1 from the Google Play Services update. And yes it seems to be more of a problem with your Google Maps places vs custom set ones. A temp fix i found was to turn it off and back on (along with trusted agents) but it doesn't stick forever.
GMoGoody said:
Trusted Places was working fine on 5.0.1. After upgrading to 5.1 I have the following happening
Trusted Places through Google Maps (Home, Work) Do not work
Trusted Places Manually added do work
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+1 Thanks! This got it working. I turned off the previous place and added new and all good.
My trusted places seem to be working after the 5.1 upgrade, BUT it only seems to want to automatically pull my home address now. It used to allow me to use home and work. I can't seem to get work to show up unless I manually add it. I think my OCD is just bothering me about it more than anything.
5.1 on AT&T.
Both the built-in (Home, Work) and custome locations are failing for me.
Mine works better than it did on 5.01.
Update:
4 hours later and stopped working again.
Another play services update is coming out. Can't tell if it works yet. Still only gives the option for home.
y2whisper said:
Another play services update is coming out. Can't tell if it works yet. Still only gives the option for home.
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Whats the version number?
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Thanks. I just grabbed it, but it didn't seem to fix my issue with smartlock.
sabbotage said:
Thanks. I just grabbed it, but it didn't seem to fix my issue with smartlock.
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I was having this same problem myself and I have finally fixed it. For me, it looks like it may be caused by street names in the smart lock address mismatching with what Google Maps has. In Google Maps my street name changed from two words to one (from River Creek to Rivercreek) and once I updated my Home location in the "My Places" section of Google Maps the smart lock worked for that location correctly. When I did all of this I was running Google Play Services 6.7.74. I just upgraded to 7.0.96 and the smart lock function has stuck (although it didn't seem to stick initially after the upgrade until after I manually went to Maps and pressed the location target).
I have no idea why my street name was changed from two words to one in Google Maps. I listed a complaint with Google. I am wondering if they somehow knew the name of my home street changed before I did. Google knows best I suppose.
Mine works, then doesn't, all without leaving my house. Borked.
Nexus 6
I have the same issue on my Nexus 5 with 5.1.
Trusted devices and trusted faces do work.
Trusted places do not work, even adding an address manually.
n80k said:
I was having this same problem myself and I have finally fixed it. For me, it looks like it may be caused by street names
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Trusted places are based on Location Service objects like longitude and latitude. Not labels (names). You can pick any spot on the map. They don't work in 5.1 with Google Play Services 6.5 or 7.0 (as of 7.0.96).
Before testing make sure any Trusted Devices are off.

NFC not woking with ING pay?

I tried paying via NFC on a contactless pos and nothing happens.
Didn't have this problem before on my Samsung Galaxy note 4.
ING Home bank is installed, a virtual card is created. ING pay is selected as default payment via NFC.
even switched to HCE wallet mode...no go
apoklyps3 said:
I tried paying via NFC on a contactless pos and nothing happens.
Didn't have this problem before on my Samsung Galaxy note 4.
ING Home bank is installed, a virtual card is created. ING pay is selected as default payment via NFC.
even switched to HCE wallet mode...no go
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It worked for me in MIUI, except with payments above 25 euro then i had some problems. Now i have a custom ROM (Beastrom) installed. That works perfectly!
apoklyps3 said:
I tried paying via NFC on a contactless pos and nothing happens.
Didn't have this problem before on my Samsung Galaxy note 4.
ING Home bank is installed, a virtual card is created. ING pay is selected as default payment via NFC.
even switched to HCE wallet mode...no go
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No problem with gpay on Global Developer rom, i have paied several times
HTCDevil said:
No problem with gpay on Global Developer rom, i have payied several times
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In the Netherlands we can not use gpay yet. It's not supported by Google and also not by the banks. So for nfc payment we need to use the functionality the bank has to offer.
stoffelsen86 said:
In the Netherlands we can not use gpay yet. It's not supported by Google and also not by the banks. So for nfc payment we need to use the functionality the bank has to offer.
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I didn't know he is from Netherlands
On Stock Rom i had to allow nfc for every App manually in the App settings, Stock Rom never asked for nfc permission like it is on xiaomi.eu now.
HTCDevil said:
I didn't know he is from Netherlands
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I guess he is, but don't know for sure, because ING is also in other countries
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I guess he is, but don't know for sure, because ING is also in other countries
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Yes, in fact in Italy too
You must make a choice,to secure,element ,wallet of the sim cart !!
Thats works fore mine mi9
I'm from romania. Tried all 3 options from secure element and no go.
ING home bank is allowed to use NFC. it simply doesn't work
Works for me in Poland just remember to set default payment app as ING, add card payment in ING app and set wallet to hce
apoklyps3 said:
I'm from romania. Tried all 3 options from secure element and no go.
ING home bank is allowed to use NFC. it simply doesn't work
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Ing pay not working anymore for me on POS in Romania until phone asked me to upgrade sistem from miui 11.0.2 to 11.0.6 ....now in on 11.0.6 and not working ...changed to sim and hce wallet ...uninstal app and readded card IT shows me all fine but on POS not working anymore ... Any solution for that? The only hope îs to reset phone but i have no tine to ard all mi apps again. Redmi note 8 pro 11.0.6.0 PGGMIXM Version.
try to remove Homebank application from any battery optimisation
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Ing pay not working anymore for me on POS in Romania until phone asked me to upgrade sistem from miui 11.0.2 to 11.0.6 ....now in on 11.0.6 and not working ...changed to sim and hce wallet ...uninstal app and readded card IT shows me all fine but on POS not working anymore ... Any solution for that? The only hope îs to reset phone but i have no tine to ard all mi apps again. Redmi note 8 pro 11.0.6.0 PGGMIXM Version.
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ING pay works fine for me in Romania on Mi 9 and Miui 11.0.6. Only used it a couple of times and for small sums (under 100 lei). Think it asks for a pin code beyond that so I don't know if that works.
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I have a mi 9t and ING Pay doesn't work. The POS displays "ERROR" and payment cannot be made.
Permission given on NFC, virtual card was created successfully in the local Homebank app.
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@templeka : would you be able to share your settings? Thanks.
These are my settings.
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Nokia 8 (Original) - Possible without Google?

Hi all,
Now that Nokia have confirmed they are not rolling out Android 10 to the original Nokia 8, it's time for me to look into another option: a non-Google AOSP variant.
I've done a bit of searching and reading up, but not much. I think it's not possible to have what I would like, which is:
AOSP based on Android 10, no Google Apps, but with the Google Play Store.
My understanding is that the Play Store requires Google Play Services, and I really, really want to get away from that with all its data privacy invasion and the contagion it's spreading out to other aspects of my phone.
So, my questions are:
1. What's the best AOSP variant based on Android 10 that has no Google that will work on an original Nokia 8?
2. Is there any non-Google app store that will have the likes of banking apps and other such confidential data sensitive apps, and is also likely to have some of the other apps I need?
Thanks in advance,
Ian J.
First of all, we wont be having android 10. It may be possible with T-virus but not until Sirocco gets android 10.
There is another replica of playstore called Aurora store. It have everything that play store have. Aurora store is available on F-droid.
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You could use any AOSP / AOKP or any other variant of GSI that suits you alongside with T-Virus of course to gain Treble capabilities and use MicroG instead of Google Framework. It's a fully open-source reimplementation of google services that's not as invasive as Googles solution but also lacks support and compability in many cases. I did not use it with Nokia 8 but I'm pretty much sure it will work just fine. Back when I had it on my previous phone it did improve battery life by alot but also had issues with GPS / Loc. because of Googles proprietary solution being not embedded in such projects. You've gotta setup Deja Vu by Mozilla or Apple backend for GPS which work just fine too.
You can find out more in here: https://microg.org/
As store replacement you've got Aurora, Yalp and FakeStore.apk (it's a frontend for MicroG.. at least it used to work)
Many thanks for the replies.
I'm not sure I need the Location services, I'm not interested in any application having access to my location other than TomTom's Go app for driving and GPS Status for just that, the status of the GPS, and they only need the built in GPS.
As for Project Treble, is that required? I would have thought that in order to take advantage of it, a phone would need to be quite cosy with Google in order to get the OS updates.
I will check out the suggested app stores to see what they have, and see what apps I currently use that might be missing so I can see if I can live with alternatives.
Ian
Ian J. said:
Hi all,
Now that Nokia have confirmed they are not rolling out Android 10 to the original Nokia 8, it's time for me to look into another option: a non-Google AOSP variant.
I've done a bit of searching and reading up, but not much. I think it's not possible to have what I would like, which is:
AOSP based on Android 10, no Google Apps, but with the Google Play Store.
My understanding is that the Play Store requires Google Play Services, and I really, really want to get away from that with all its data privacy invasion and the contagion it's spreading out to other aspects of my phone.
So, my questions are:
1. What's the best AOSP variant based on Android 10 that has no Google that will work on an original Nokia 8?
2. Is there any non-Google app store that will have the likes of banking apps and other such confidential data sensitive apps, and is also likely to have some of the other apps I need?
Thanks in advance,
Ian J.
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For alternative play store. U can try "apkpure". I use it on my other devices where there are no gappa installed.
I've looked into the apps available elsewhere and unfortunately such things as banking apps, and tomtom navigation and the like, aren't available widely if at all. Therefore it looks like my next phone will be an Apple iPhone as that at least is more likely to be private from Google's spying play services. I won't use an iPhone for media playback though, they're useless for that. I'll retain the Nokia 8 and remove the sim card, and use it as an MP3 player.
Ian J. said:
I've looked into the apps available elsewhere and unfortunately such things as banking apps, and tomtom navigation and the like, aren't available widely if at all. Therefore it looks like my next phone will be an Apple iPhone as that at least is more likely to be private from Google's spying play services. I won't use an iPhone for media playback though, they're useless for that. I'll retain the Nokia 8 and remove the sim card, and use it as an MP3 player.
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Question google timeline working?

is there any chance to get google timeline working on VivoX70+Pro.
i install google maps on chinese version navigation works.
but i cant activate timeline.
mrazzido said:
is there any chance to get google timeline working on VivoX70+Pro.
i install google maps on chinese version navigation works.
but i cant activate timeline.
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Make sure Location History is on
Salaabda said:
Make sure Location History is on
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i make everything on , but i doenst work.
hope there is some answer soon
thanks
Hi,
You can install google map in google play store and allow localtion permission on app setting. That's it work for map than chiness map version.
no luck after more than 3 months Y_Y
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no luck after more than 3 months Y_Y
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Timeline works, enable google account and gmaps, give all necessary permissions and then on location.
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Timeline works, enable google account and gmaps, give all necessary permissions and then on location.
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I've been going crazy for months but it doesn't work for me.
I also tried to install google maps & services via ourplay from vivo store (ourplay creates a sandbox), in which version of map the timeline is active but does not record my movements.
ive upgeaded to Ocean by OTA
Forget the sandbox. You may be aware that it is highly unlikely that one phone has a timeline and the other doesn't and the hardware or the system is the cause.
The more probable cause is your google account or settings. Therefore, I advise you to first check if your device is GPlay certified in settings. If not, you should achieve it by adjusting your google account (on a computer) or reset the phone.
Another useful approach is checking the timeline on other phone (or tablet). You may borrow one if you don't have it. If hte timeline works, the problem lies in your phone, otherwise in the google settings.
It doesn't work for me. Device side problem as it works on other android tablet.
maxant69 said:
It doesn't work for me. Device side problem as it works on other android tablet.
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Did you check if you're device is google play certified? If yes, check settings and permissions. If it doesn't help, try to factory reset the phone and set everything from scratch.
I don't have the button for the verification from the play store, but only an application verification
But you do see "device is certified" under the Google Play - Settings - About?
I can't turn on location history either. It just has in Italics "Location History is off"
Can't select any toggle to turn it on.
In play store it shows my Device is certified.
History works fine on my other devices.
Live View for walking directions is also always greyed out on my Vivo for some reason.
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But you do see "device is certified" under the Google Play - Settings - About?
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Yes is certified
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Yes is certified
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Inspecting the issue thoroughly, I found that the location history actually doesn't work. The reason that I was mistaken is the fact that I use a dedicated car dongle in order to have Android Auto. And all time history I have has been plotted with this device. Last month I was travelling and got zero timeline.
I tried to enable it and totally failed. As it can be seen from the attached picture, my phone is not and can't be included in the location history.
I searched the web and found the probable reason. Chinese Vivo doesn't have full Google framework, only basic. Hence, it can't communicate with Google servers in full. That's why we can't make backup as well.
Actually, I don't miss the location history on the phone that much. But if someone is interested, there is an instruction to enable it here:
[FIX] [All Amazon tablets] Enable/Fix Google Location Services [MARCH 2019]
****UPDATE MARCH 7, 2019:**** If the guide below doesn't work for you, see additional instructions at the end. This seems to be a huge problem for many users...location services not working when the Google Play store is installed. I have found a...
forum.xda-developers.com
Of course, it is for a rooted device. But there is a slight chance enabling it without the root. The most important is getting the full Google service framework to the phone.
Otherwise, I guess, we are out of luck.
The non complete framework is the reason why many google features don't work:
- android auto;
- location history;
- google backup;
- "OK Google" voice activation.
Thanks for the explanations on the problem.
I tried to download the apk files.
Already the first on the list does not install due to a security exception.
I also tried to download the latest versions but I have the same error.
Any solution without Root?
Interested in solve this problem

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