Question Lens and body protection - Vivo X90 Pro Plus

I never bothered with proper cases on my phones, but as the Vivo is likely to need repair back in China in case of an accident, I'm looking for a way to keep it secure.
I was about to order a screen protector but seems it comes with one attached already.
While the case looks great, I'm not confident it does much to protect the phone if it falls. Looking at ebay and amazon gives me a couple of options, but not much choice - have any of you bought a case, and if so, which one?
The most exposed part at risk of scratches is the camera unit. Ideally I would like a tempered glass protector with cutouts rather than covering the lenses with a full glass piece, but seems it doesn't exist for the Vivo yet
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Thought of one of these, but wondering if it will cover the laser.

the laser should be cutout - those pictures are wrong from what others have been delivered. Luckily the flash is not in the module - because otherwise this metal protector would destroy any picture with flash as flash through a cutout still gives reflextions.
Quite a few people had horrible pictures on other phones and diddn't realise it happens because of auto flash and reflection from the lens protection back onto the sensor.
There is no Spigen case for the X90 Pro+.
I don't trust cases without air pockets (or two part cases with inner foam/outer carbon/aramaid) - and the case I have a silicon case with airpockets has horrible haptics - as the airpockets stick out - so other stuff in my pockets often gets stuck on them. Also makes for sharp edges... It feels pretty safe for protection but is too bulky...
Also the screen protector is low quality. it scratches very easily and has problems sticking onto the phone in subzero humid conditions.
And yeah - for my use I need something covering the space inbetween the lenses - just a cutout like the original cover even if more elevated I will surely scratch the camera cover glas.

extremecarver said:
the laser should be cutout - those pictures are wrong from what others have been delivered. Luckily the flash is not in the module - because otherwise this metal protector would destroy any picture with flash as flash through a cutout still gives reflextions.
Quite a few people had horrible pictures on other phones and diddn't realise it happens because of auto flash and reflection from the lens protection back onto the sensor.
There is no Spigen case for the X90 Pro+.
I don't trust cases without air pockets (or two part cases with inner foam/outer carbon/aramaid) - and the case I have a silicon case with airpockets has horrible haptics - as the airpockets stick out - so other stuff in my pockets often gets stuck on them. Also makes for sharp edges... It feels pretty safe for protection but is too bulky...
Also the screen protector is low quality. it scratches very easily and has problems sticking onto the phone in subzero humid conditions.
And yeah - for my use I need something covering the space inbetween the lenses - just a cutout like the original cover even if more elevated I will surely scratch the camera cover glas.
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At first I didn't realise it had a screen protector and was shocked to see micro scratches after simply dusting it off.
Will try to find a better quality protector and my search for a more secure case continues

UV film protectors are recommended in China for screen protection. They are hard to get outside China I guess in the right cut however.
Because yes the default one really is low quality. If I would not plan to sell this phone as soon as possible I would have ripped it off already.

I have this one installed.

I didn't want to make a separate thread and didn't see anything about it---but is there a screen protector on from factory?
Mine definitely has a film on it... but I tried for 5 minutes trying to pick at it to install a glass protector. Couldn't even get it to lift (being extra careful 'cause it's REALLY on there).
As for body I bought quite a few from aliexpress. I'm a fan of the aramid fiber ones but they don't offer that much protection in reality. Just wish they were magnetic capable like the pitaka cases.

@o4komodo Yes, in my experience, all Chinese smartphones come with a screen protector pre-installed. Keep in mind that aftermarket screen protectors can negatively affect the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.

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@o4komodo Yes, in my experience, all Chinese smartphones come with a screen protector pre-installed. Keep in mind that aftermarket screen protectors can negatively affect the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Oh yeah forgot that was a thing.
I put my glass screen over the phone (with the original screen protector and under film on) and it won't register. (not a good test since it has 2 plastic films to go through before the glass) Don't want to risk removing the films and applying the glass in case the fingerprint sensor doesn't work.
I do have two types though. The traditional one and the one that requries UV curing.

The film that comes with the phone is crap. Scratches in no time, cheap plastic.
I ordered some hard wearing protective film through ebay

Haskren said:
The film that comes with the phone is crap. Scratches in no time, cheap plastic.
I ordered some hard wearing protective film through ebay
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Tried picking at it for a while with my finger nail while being careful. It didn't wanna come off.
Did you use film or glass for your new screen protector? I only have glass. I know it's usually okay for Samsung. Hopefully it'll be the same here.

I received my new screen protector - absolute rubbish, threw it straight in the bin as it can bend to follow the curvature of the screen. And fingerprint not working.
Must be a scam:

Did you re scan your finger after applying the protector? Found a post about the S21u and sS23u that had same issue and majority was down to that. Or to straight up get a hydrogel one.
Seems ultrasonic fingerprint readers and screen protectors don't like each other and cause a few issues anyway according to what they're all saying over there

Didn't bother trying as the item doesn't fit at all

The only kind of screen protectors recommended for the Ultra Sonic fingerprint reader are simple foils, or UV tempered glass protectors (those you put the glue below, press on the glass, then use a UV light to cure them on).
Or use a spray on/glue protector - or nothing. Because yeah the default one is rubbish and scratches very easily / even worse than scratches are roughed spots that decrease the display visibility much more which appear with use.
If it doesn't come off - put your phone in a humid bag into the fridge. Hiking in humind climate around 0° the original protector always gets loose.

extremecarver said:
The only kind of screen protectors recommended for the Ultra Sonic fingerprint reader are simple foils, or UV tempered glass protectors (those you put the glue below, press on the glass, then use a UV light to cure them on).
Or use a spray on/glue protector - or nothing. Because yeah the default one is rubbish and scratches very easily / even worse than scratches are roughed spots that decrease the display visibility much more which appear with use.
If it doesn't come off - put your phone in a humid bag into the fridge. Hiking in humind climate around 0° the original protector always gets loose.
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Guess the glass is hard wearing so will take my chances.
Was thinking; since the X90 pro is sold in Europe, do you think it's possible to get them to do a repair (ie lens cover crack) instead of sending back to China? Lens cover size looks the same as the pro. Even a light scratch can ruin the image quality.
Hopefully won't be necessary

From what I heard before vivo Europe doesn't handle Chinese devices, except if you get vivo China to initiate it (by chatting in Chinese with a vivo rep in China).
I'm not sure how hard the lens surface is. I don't think it's really hard glass. It's quite frustrating there is no single case I think that isn't either huge or unsafe. There is a case like the stock one with camera cover but like stock it doesn't have air pockets. Found a case with not sticking out air pockets but it misses any cover on the lense. And then there are covers with air pockets but they stick out and are uncomfortable/get caught easily... And no I don't trust single piece aramid covers. Good ones consisting of outside with rubber inside don't exist either....

Did any of you guys manage to find a decent screen protector in the end?

I just got a better case with a higher lip protecting the camera module. As always, after a few weeks owning a new phone, I am more relaxed
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0BPMSS2MM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Haskren said:
I just got a better case with a higher lip protecting the camera module. As always, after a few weeks owning a new phone, I am more relaxed
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0BPMSS2MM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
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I'm wearing this one and it's very comfortable and won't stain
https://amzn.eu/d/9Pl1hiA

franagan75 said:
I'm wearing this one and it's very comfortable and won't stain
https://amzn.eu/d/9Pl1hiA
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Ah yes, saw that. I just think it covers up what is otherwise a beautiful phone. But optimal protection!

Related

XtremeGuard: Best Bang for Buck Screen Guard!

I just read through the other thread here titled "Free Military Grade" and I seriously can't believe that its still a sticky here!
Anyway coming back to topic, I just received the XtremeGuard Screen protector for my HD2 and to come straight to the point - this is the best screenguard you can buy at this rate!
I've personally used Zagg and Bestskinsever for the rest of my Devices (iPad and iPhone 4) and can without a doubt say that the material used here is the SAME!
I got the Full Body Screen Protector for just 6$ off Ebay incl. Shipping (WorldWide Shipping).
The quality is same as the Zagg I currently have applied to my iPad.
If you are looking for a screenguard then I haven't seen anyone else offering this quality at such a low rate.
Note: This is no paid review or anything. Just my pure personal experience.
You can buy from their site : http://www.xtremeguard.com/ or directly order one from Ebay. I'd go with Ebay simply cause of their guarantee and money back policies.
What I don't like about those screen protectors like Invisible shield and bestskinsever is the rubbery feel left on your screen. Your fingers don't glide like it would on protector-less screen. Does this one have the same rubbery feel to it?
I currently use Vikuiti (TM) DQC-160: http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-screen-protector-dqc160-htc-hd2-28087.html
It's like having no protector at all. The screen protector glides perfectly, no rubbery feeling. They also have a promo, buy 2 get 1 free, so you get 3 screen protectors... And unlike the skins that have to be installed with soapy water, these go on without water and are even washable and reusable!
I've tried all screen protectors imaginable (Bodyguardz, zagg, Clearprotector, bestskinsever, cheap ebay protectors, etc.) and Vikuiti is the best I've used...
What bothers me about Xtremeguards is they say Zagg is not military grade and theirs are. But Zagg was the first to boast military grade helicopter blade protection film...
Well I found Zagg to be the most rubbery. XtremeGuard was on the same line with Bestskinsever.
About the Military grade protection I feel those are just marketing gimmicks and not to be taken seriously.
Vikuiti (TM) DQC-160 is still costlier and only covers the front. So assuming this higher cost and coverage area it should be made of a different and higher quality material.
As far as the quality of material goes, Zagg/Bestskinsever/XtremeGuard use the same/similar type of material. But XtremeGuard was the cheapest I could find.
I'm notoriously brutal on my phone screens, and have ruined many of them over the years. The Gorilla glass on my HD2 (now a year old) has remained unprotected since day one, and it's still perfect. The surface is amazing.
Has anybody really scratch up their screen?
Bimboy said:
The Gorilla glass on my HD2 (now a year old) has remained unprotected since day one, and it's still perfect.
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Sorry mate, but the HD2 doesn't have Gorilla glass. It's tough, but not Gorilla tough - and I know, cos I tried to scratch mine one night with a bottle cap when I was drunk. Thank god that didn't work!
Bimboy said:
I'm notoriously brutal on my phone screens, and have ruined many of them over the years. The Gorilla glass on my HD2 (now a year old) has remained unprotected since day one, and it's still perfect. The surface is amazing.
Has anybody really scratch up their screen?
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Its my personal experience that having a screen guard on drastically reduces the chances of causing a screen breakage incase the phone falls down.
I use a matte screen guard just to reduce direct daylight glare. Since I use the Otterbox Defender and keep it screen side in, there's not much chance of keys or other things scratching even the guard.
johncmolyneux said:
Sorry mate, but the HD2 doesn't have Gorilla glass. It's tough, but not Gorilla tough - and I know, cos I tried to scratch mine one night with a bottle cap when I was drunk. Thank god that didn't work!
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Wow thats a relief
I've been using the Zagg protection for my HD for more than two years now.
It's very effective, as it truly turns your device into a rubber bouncing ball, so you'll really unlikely damage it if if falls down in most situations.
However, the screen part was very unpleasant to use, as your finger wouldn't slip anymore on the rubbery (and sticky) surface, and since the micro bubbles that always appear took several months to disappear from large surfaces such as the back battery cover, it compromised the scren readability for a too long time to be tolerated, so I prefered to use standard screen protection sheets (my current one is an anti-glare one).
Now for the drawbacks :
- Two years later, the glue turned yellow. It's obvioulsy not a problem on the black HD shell, but it could have been if you covered the screen as well.
- The sheets can theorically be removed, cleaned and replaced. It's true in the beginning. But two years later, the glue will stick to the HD and peel off from the film ! BTW, the film now rips easily, so it appears to have lost its initial sturdiness.
- I bought a Brodit craddle for my car, and it's very tight. So tight it ripped off the Zagg protection ! It may be thin, it's not thin enough...
So I finally removed it entirely. After all, I always put it in my belt leather case when I'm not using it and I barely use is as a basket ball - though it fell down quite a few times and I thanked the Zagg protection.
But my HD is ageing now and since I have problems with the screen, I think I'll change it for an HD2, so I won't replace the protection.
In conclusion :
- The Zagg protection is excellent, but consider replacing it after at least two years.
Well, I know it's actually more than the time some people keep their phones, but I keep mine for many years, so it's a concern for me.
- It will be a problem if you intend to use a slip-in car craddle, because of the added thickness.
The sheet is also very shock and scratch proof, but easily teared off if applied a strong pressure with a cutting edge, as for instance the hard ABS Brodit craddle edges.
- You'll quickly find it's not suitable to protect the screen.
Otherwise, if you intend to protect your Leo from scratches and shocks without wrapping it inside a huge box or ugly silicon case, while retaining its original appearance and design, and don't wish to have to get it out of the box/case each time you want to access the battery, SD card or SIM card, or plug into your car handsfree kit, then it's a perfect solution that no other can match.
Screen protectors are worthwhile on old resistive screens made of plastic, as plastic scratches very easily. They are a waste of money on glass screens, however, as it is extremely hard to scratch glass
Glass screens crack when extreme pressure/shock is exerted on the edges of the devices and compresses the glass. No screen protector is going to protect the glass from that. A shock absorbing silicon/rubber case, while not fool proof, offers the best protection from a shattered screen.
I've never had a screen protector an my old iPhone and my HD2, and there isn't a single scratch on the screen on either device. Everything else on my iPhone got scratched, but the screen is actually the most durable part:
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Anti-glare screen filters can still be interesting if you're using your device outside under strong sunlight, as it's the case here where I live.
Otherwise, I agree the mineral glass is supposed to be scratch proof.
... But not break proof ! The Leo's glass screen has proved many times to be very, very thin compared to the iPhone's one... And very fragile when hit.
So beware if like me, you're carying your device everywhere on hard work. You can frequently hit your hip, so at least, don't store your Leo in your carrying case with the glass turned outside !!!
I prefer the otterbox defender
Which has a screen protector. For one thing, it will keep the glass from shattering should the device fall.
I do have a plastic protector under the otterbox, because the screen tends to stick to the otterbox otherwise. Some people have recommended a bit of baby powder on the screen, but I just can't bring myself to do that - and I wonder if they realize that such powder can be talc or cornstarch. I'm not sure I'd want either getting on my screen!
I just received the Full Body Screen Protector from Xtreme Guard today and I am a bit lost as to how to apply it since this is the 1st time I am trying to apply this type of protector.
In the instructions, it says to soak all fingers in soapy water solution --> can I use any type of washing hand liquid and mix it with water?
Then this is the part where I'm really lost : "Peel off the guard from its backing, then re-dip your fingers in the solution and completely wet the backing of the guard" --> Does that mean I must wet/dip the whole protector in the solution before applying?
Please bear with me, I'm completely noob for this type of thing. Any help would be really appreciated - thanks!!
Final5k said:
I just received the Full Body Screen Protector from Xtreme Guard today and I am a bit lost as to how to apply it since this is the 1st time I am trying to apply this type of protector.
In the instructions, it says to soak all fingers in soapy water solution --> can I use any type of washing hand liquid and mix it with water?
Then this is the part where I'm really lost : "Peel off the guard from its backing, then re-dip your fingers in the solution and completely wet the backing of the guard" --> Does that mean I must wet/dip the whole protector in the solution before applying?
Please bear with me, I'm completely noob for this type of thing. Any help would be really appreciated - thanks!!
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First rule of thumb, go slow!
And not to hijack this thread or anything, but I always refer to the Phantom Skinz website when I install skins. I have used a few different products and Phantom Skinz was the best. Frack you, Ghost Armor!!! (Note, I have never used XtremeGuard but I am thinking about it because of the much cheaper price).
Back on topic, the Phantom Skinz website had some pretty in depth instructions and I did not just want to take credit for them, so:
http://phantomskinz.com/installation.aspx
And here is a video install because sometimes it is easier to watch someone do it first:
http://phantomskinz.com/install.aspx
Hey guys, I recently bought one of these off Amazon when I ordered my Otterbox case, it was only $2 so I figured I had nothing to lose. Here's my take on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19109961#post19109961
916x10 said:
Hey guys, I recently bought one of these off Amazon when I ordered my Otterbox case, it was only $2 so I figured I had nothing to lose. Here's my take on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19109961#post19109961
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When I replaced my HD2 a couple of months ago I decided not to put a screen protector on the device, using the one built into the Defender instead.
Well, one of the second hand HD2s I bought went with a couple of original HTC screen protectors, so I put one of them on mine, in order to potect the screen from shocks, as the glass is very thin (much thinner than the iPhone's for instance).
You never know what can happen...
It may not be the best protection in the world : it's a bit thick, it makes the picture look a bit "weavy" when seen from tight angle (so I guess it's not perfectly flat), it can be scratched moderately easily, it's prone to collect fingerprints (as all the existing protections actually, and even the glass with no protection at all), the screen is still as difficult to read under strong sunlight (I think even a bit worse than with no protection at all), and it's slightly less finger-slippery than the glass screen alone, but...
... It has a gigantic advantage towards all and every other existing screen protectors (probably except the Zagg Invisible Shield, but this one is so rubbery and sticky it's almost unusable, actually) :
... It covers the whole screen, including around and under the buttons.
Most, if not all other protections, stop on top of the buttons, making a visible and ugly "stairs step". Plus they're not really better. Too bad.
So the HTC one is the one I prefer (the other best choice being no protection at all, since the glass can hardly be scratched, only broken).
BTW, I don't use a full casing protection nor sleeve, as I'm using a belt pouch and a very tightly fit Brodit car craddle that forbids any protection other than a screen film (it would just rip off the Zagg full body protection as it's too thick : I had the problem with the HD).

Orzly Tempered Glass Screen Protector [Small review]

The Orzly Tempered Glass Screen Protector. I used 3 of them on my 1+1 and they did their job perfectly, not a scratch on the screen even when I sometimes thought it was done for. So after ordering my 1+3 i first bought the tempered glass screen protector from Oneplus. Huge mistake. Hands down the worst screen protector i used so far. So almost immediately i ordered myself a trusted Orzly screen protector.
Installation:
Installation of the screen protector was quick and easy. I guess the procedure is about the same for every screen protector out there but still.. The only problem is that even i wiped the screen clean with the cloth etc. But still i managed to get a spec of dust on the screen which really annoys me. I guess i'll just buy another one
Conclusion:
Great screen protector, does the job perfectly. I hope i don't need to replace it any time soon.
Pictures:
As you can see on the picture below, the screen protector from Oneplus isn't all that good...
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However the Orzly one:
thanks for the review but before people run out to buy one based on this review, a few things i feel should be mentioned:
1) this Orzly protector does NOT work with a lot of cases. if you have a case that covers the sides but doesn't go over the glass, it will push and lift the Orzly. if you do have a case that fits snug, it will push in the glass and create weird color marks.
2) the protector has dots on it that are clearly visible in direct sunlight and quite frankly, make the screen look like crap.
3) the protector is a smudge/fingerprint magnet!!!
4) because it doesn't quite stick to the screen, unless the sides are fully covered by a case, you will get dust inside.
5) i did notice a slight touch response degradation but its not major.
my conclusion: Orzly dropped the ball on this one. i had their protector on the One and the Two and they were incredible but the one for the Three is a mess and i will be asking for my money back.
I can only confirm it. I'm very disappointed with Orzly tgsp. It doesn't work with orzly flex case. Matrix dots are very annoying, so far it's the worst screen protector I purchased.
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Rattles said:
thanks for the review but before people run out to buy one based on this review, a few things i feel should be mentioned:
1) this Orzly protector does NOT work with a lot of cases. if you have a case that covers the sides but doesn't go over the glass, it will push and lift the Orzly. if you do have a case that fits snug, it will push in the glass and create weird color marks.
2) the protector has dots on it that are clearly visible in direct sunlight and quite frankly, make the screen look like crap.
3) the protector is a smudge/fingerprint magnet!!!
4) because it doesn't quite stick to the screen, unless the sides are fully covered by a case, you will get dust inside.
5) i did notice a slight touch response degradation but its not major.
my conclusion: Orzly dropped the ball on this one. i had their protector on the One and the Two and they were incredible but the one for the Three is a mess and i will be asking for my money back.
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Completely agree Rattles, this screen protector doesn't fit with Orzly's own Grip Pro case. For me the touch response degradation was so bad, I removed the screen protector after less than 24 hours with it fitted and fitted it to the inside of my bin.
Personally, I think that this screen protector is utter trash.
I second the negative experience with the Orzly TGSP, which is quite a bummer. I had very good experience with their TGSP on previous devices, but I guess the curved screen made them make a bad deciscion to go with the black bordered one.
Rattles said:
2) the protector has dots on it that are clearly visible in direct sunlight and quite frankly, make the screen look like crap.
3) the protector is a smudge/fingerprint magnet!!!
4) because it doesn't quite stick to the screen, unless the sides are fully covered by a case, you will get dust inside.
5) i did notice a slight touch response degradation but its not major.
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I am pretty happy with the Orzly which I use with a sandstone case.
2) Dots are only visible under certain circumstances, but it is rare, in my case 99% of the time not visible. I already forgot about them.
3) Agree, it is a fingerprint magnet. But also easier to clean than the original screen protector.
5) Didn't notice any touch response degradation and must state that thanks to a more slippery surface the fingers slide better which for me is a big plus.
Although it fits perfect and the dot matrix doesn't bother me but dust entered the screen protector after a week even though I was using a case.
Very disappointed with orzly. Not 2.5d at all. Glass is bigger than screen and there are a lot of dust in the gap. Dots are visible quite often. Doesn't stick well.. Hate it.
Bought and discarded the protector after one day of use. For all the points mentioned by many above. Waste of money.
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I am pretty happy with the Orzly which I use with a sandstone case.
2) Dots are only visible under certain circumstances, but it is rare, in my case 99% of the time not visible. I already forgot about them.
3) Agree, it is a fingerprint magnet. But also easier to clean than the original screen protector.
5) Didn't notice any touch response degradation and must state that thanks to a more slippery surface the fingers slide better which for me is a big plus.
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Although it fits perfect and the dot matrix doesn't bother me but dust entered the screen protector after a week even though I was using a case.
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Yes, i agree. The dots are only visible in direct sunlight. That still so many have bad experience with this tgsp. I really like it!
Just to add one more negative thing: the Protector is very reflective (compared to other tempered glass protectors and stock Display). Hence outdoor usage is limited.
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I also have this one and I'm super disappointed.
I mean, why don't they just make it translucent? And why is there no glue on the glass? It lifts off even without a case...
Also the cutouts aren't perfect, while the camera and speaker ones fit perfectly I only see half of the buttons. And those fingerprints!
Really, even the pre-applied protector from OnePlus was better.
I can confirm all these flaws. Anyone got a recommendation for a good one? The official oneplus one is back in stores, so I maybe just end up buying this.
I threw it away as well. It was worse than the official one tbh, at least the official one doesn't fall off all the time...
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FYI: Complained about the garbage quality through Amazon and got my money back.
Time to find a better glass protector now.
i got a casebase protector but havent removed the protector that comes with it, should i try the casebase or is everyone going back to standard protectors since these full coverage ones arent cutting it?
merewood bebox said:
i got a casebase protector but havent removed the protector that comes with it, should i try the casebase or is everyone going back to standard protectors since these full coverage ones arent cutting it?
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As far as I can tell , the Case base is identical to Orzly so honestly, I would just keep the one that came with the phone and send it back.
Rattles said:
As far as I can tell , the Case base is identical to Orzly so honestly, I would just keep the one that came with the phone and send it back.
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Alight so what you planning to use now, there's not much Choce for this phone now that I i think about it
Thank you
You just saved me man, I was about to order after reading the post.
Rattles said:
thanks for the review but before people run out to buy one based on this review, a few things i feel should be mentioned:
1) this Orzly protector does NOT work with a lot of cases. if you have a case that covers the sides but doesn't go over the glass, it will push and lift the Orzly. if you do have a case that fits snug, it will push in the glass and create weird color marks.
2) the protector has dots on it that are clearly visible in direct sunlight and quite frankly, make the screen look like crap.
3) the protector is a smudge/fingerprint magnet!!!
4) because it doesn't quite stick to the screen, unless the sides are fully covered by a case, you will get dust inside.
5) i did notice a slight touch response degradation but its not major.
my conclusion: Orzly dropped the ball on this one. i had their protector on the One and the Two and they were incredible but the one for the Three is a mess and i will be asking for my money back.
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I installed mine and I like it. I'm pretty ocd about acreen protectors too...no gap under acreen, and I use the oneplus sandstone snap case and it doesn't touch the protector. Only fault is the dang rate it picks up fingerprints. I can see the dots underneath, but only in sunlight...that not an issue at all. I tried about 3 different ones odd of Amazon before I left this one on.
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Screen protectors

Righteo, our phones will be arriving in a week, which screen protectors should we be buying? Thoughts?
I'm tempted by a tempered glass (pun not intended, but I chuckled), but haven't had one before. They seem like they can be pretty thin these days and keep the nice feeling of glass instead of plastic. My Z3C came with protectors for front and back in the box, but looking at the "whats included" things, I can't see any mention of that for the XZ1c.
I guess the requirements are: can't be crap; gotta be reasonably easy to apply bubble free; nice to touch; not going to peel or flake after a few months; not a finger-print magnet; doesn't interfere with the touchscreen function; doesn't alter the colours.
Get your suggestions in! Mobilefun have a couple available to preorder, but I've got no reason to think these are any better than ones on Amazon etc.
Just got my XZ1 Compact from Sony HK. They gave me a third party "nano protector" which is crap; covers the screen but not the wall glass area, the texture is nice but it's a dust magnet. Looking for a full screen tempered glass protector now..
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Definitely go tempered glass, just dropped my nexus 5x today (a week before upgrade to XZ1 compact) and the screen protector cracked but the screen is fine. I also know a guy at work who has dropped his iphone at least 6 times and broken the screen protector only.
Im tempted to get the sony Xperia™ XZ1 Compact Style Cover Stand SCSG60 for a bit more protection but not sure how ill get on with a cover case like that.
Screen protector wise i've only seen these in the UK
Not sure whats curved about it but its official ish by the looks of it. Not sure i like the black boxes though.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/roxfit-mfx-sony-xperia-xz1-compact-curved-glass-screen-protector-64844
Not heard of Olixar but this one has clear glass all over.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/olixar-s...t-tempered-glass-screen-protector-black-65018
I found a cheap tempered glass protector, the only one I could find after couple of hours checking shops in Hong Kong.
It went to the trash bin after a day...
It covered the screen area only and its edges wouldn't stick to the phone glass...
Yes, I just found out that the XZ1 glass is 2.5D so it is slightly curved, very very slightly but still.
I guess it will be hard to find a full screen one then. The best option I've found on Internet is a curved plastic protector, similar to what I had on my S7 edge; it should cover nicely the whole area without bubbles or the issues all the curved tempered glass had, but this kind of material is fingerprint, smudges and grease magnet...
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koziakauzu said:
Just got my XZ1 Compact from Sony HK. They gave me a third party "nano protector" which is crap; covers the screen but not the wall glass area, the texture is nice but it's a dust magnet. Looking for a full screen tempered glass protector now..
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Try this one - Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact Screen Protector,SMTR® [Edge Full Coverage Screen Protector][Easy-Install][Scratch resistant][Ultra Clear] 2.5D Pro Fit 9H Tempered Glass 0.33mm for Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075686NYQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TQGYzb8Q5M2SG
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http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/roxfit-mfx-sony-xperia-xz1-compact-curved-glass-screen-protector-64844
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Purchased the full glass screen protector mentioned here as well as the Roxfit book case. Will let you guys know how it goes when I receive them.
Looks like the tempered glass ones don't reach to the edges due to curving of the screen. Might be a bit tricky to find one that covers the entire front properly, and even then, I guess glass is out of the question.
Gonna try one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0755DYRYQ
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Looks like the tempered glass ones don't reach to the edges due to curving of the screen. Might be a bit tricky to find one that covers the entire front properly, and even then, I guess glass is out of the question.
Gonna try one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0755DYRYQ
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This is the Roxfit one, they do the cases under the 'made for xperia' partnership so id hope the glass would be good too (even if not made for xperia)
https://www.roxfit.mobi/products/sony-xperia-xz1-compact-full-cover-tempered-glass
Roxfit one looks the same, I think these ones with the coloured surrounds might be edge-to-edge. If you look at the clear options on Amazon a number of them mention they'll only cover the screen and not go to the edge due to curves. There are a couple of reviews on the XZ1 protectors that mention they don't go to the edge.
Should get mine tomorrow and just received notification of dispatch of my phone too, so hopefully they'll all rock up some time tomorrow.
I bought this screen protector and I'm a little disapointed. Although it was easy to put on and has a good finish. It doesn't wrap round the edges of the curved display and thb, I can't imagine there are any protectors that will.
Part of a screen protectors design is to be hard and ridgid to resist scratches, now get that hard material to wrap round a 90 degree corner.
I'll be interested in feedback of the other protectors listed here.
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Gonna try one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0755DYRYQ
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Easy to put on, I did it straight away, so I pulled off the shipping cover and slapped this one down in one movement. No dust, no bubbles.
The black frame is a little weird, the most noticeable bit is the cut out for the Sony logo. But be warned with these glass frames - you cannot use the official DK60 dock! It is just slightly too big to slot in to the correct sized bracket. I've had to use a bigger bracket and shove a bit of card down the back.
Anyone have a suggestion of a normal nonglass screen protector? I just love the one that originally came with my z3c - it's oleophobic so I honestly never see any fingerprint smudges on the screen.
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Easy to put on, I did it straight away, so I pulled off the shipping cover and slapped this one down in one movement. No dust, no bubbles.
The black frame is a little weird, the most noticeable bit is the cut out for the Sony logo. But be warned with these glass frames - you cannot use the official DK60 dock! It is just slightly too big to slot in to the correct sized bracket. I've had to use a bigger bracket and shove a bit of card down the back.
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So is it ok in use with the phone? Id rather have full coverage but ive seen some not full coverage ones that are completely clear and so wont look as odd with the black sections.
Alas, the only camera I have on me at the moment is my phone. But it doesn't look too bad, I can't see a clear one looking any better in reality as the thickness is the most distracting thing. A film one will get a snugger fit, but the clarity and feel isn't anywhere as nice as glass.
This one from Protectionfilms24.com is more up my street, old school film with cutouts only where they need to be but need to get more info on just how much "smaller than the display" it actually is.
(all screen protectors listed in this thread don't ship to my country and I'm not a big fan of colored frame either)
Last try until I give up and just use my phone without a screen protector.
Installed an " Imak Hydrogel " protector (installation requires water)... Good thing is it came with 2 pieces.
I have lot of experience with regular plastic ones and tempered glass but this is my first protector requiring water..
I've installed the first one and I had an horrible texture, when I decided to remove it I also tried to reposition it just to see if it could be better. Indeed it was but it was also already ruined by my fingerprints underneath. (it doesn't adhere to transparent tape, hard to find a way to peel it off or just reposition it)
I've then installed the spare one and is definitely better this time. Not perfect but definitely usable. I have to see how scratch prone it is and if it doesn't retain oil or fingerprints too much.
Oh yes and it is covering the whole glass edge to edge..
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I went with the Omaton (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0755DYRYQ) as previously listed. Really not a fan of the black frame bits i just dont see the need and it stops one product being used by all coloured models which seems a bit unsound in a business sense too.
Still the application and packaging and all the stickers screen wipes and so on made the process really easy and i got a dust and bubble free application and pleased with the end result and i can live with the oddly boxed Sony logo.
Omaton with the black frame fitted:
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You can see it goes past the edge of the screen, but doesn't quite meet the edge of the phone (due to curving). So unless somebody makes a shaped front piece, I think this probably going to be as good as it gets for glass.
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Omaton with the black frame fitted:
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You can see it goes past the edge of the screen, but doesn't quite meet the edge of the phone (due to curving). So unless somebody makes a shaped front piece, I think this probably going to be as good as it gets for glass.
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That looks pretty damn good.

Screen Protector still necessary? Is there a foil over the screen?

Do you think it is still necessary to set on a Screen Protector? Because it has Gorilla Glass 5.
I come from Z1 Compact and there the only reason putting on a Screen Protector was the ugly foil sony put over the Gorilla Glass.
Does XZ1 Compact has an extra foil like the Z1 Compact?
No, Sony got rid of that film layer a couple of generations back.
No matter how many numbers they slap onto the marketing name Gorilla Glass, it's still glass.
IMO cheap glass screen protectors are still a better option than having to replace the phone's screen when the inevitable scratches accumulates past my tolerance limit, which would be extremely inconvenient and potentially costly.
My phone lives most of its days in my pocket with no other objects, and curiously still manages to get scratches on the "9H scratch resistant Gorilla Glass level tempered glass" screen protectors that I use.
Maybe it's because the screen protectors have bogus claims, but that's enough to get me wary of going full on naked. Referring to the phone, of course.
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My phone lives most of its days in my pocket with no other objects, and curiously still manages to get scratches on the "9H scratch resistant Gorilla Glass level tempered glass" screen protectors that I use.
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That's because screen protectors are plastic.
I took the film cover off my girlfriends Z1c screen two years ago, it lives in her pocket or handbag (without any other objects). It's still looks perfect and no scratches or marks. The only thing that will scratch glass is something harder than glass, which you should never get if the phone lives in a soft cloth pocket. The only time you're likely to scratch it is when you put it down and pick it up off a hard surface, like, err, concreate or a metal table
I think the primary use for screen protectors is the slightly reduced chance of the screen cracking if you drop it face down. I don't think modern gorilla glass sctraches, it just shatters.
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That's because screen protectors are plastic.
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Uh, no, there are screen protectors made out of glass. Now whether or not they are of high quality glass is another issue, which is what I was skeptical of, but there is no doubt the one I'm using (and others I've used in the past) is glass not plastic.
The last time I used plastic screen protectors was years ago, when glass screen protectors were not very common and too expensive.
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Uh, no, there are screen protectors made out of glass. Now whether or not they are of high quality glass is another issue, which is what I was skeptical of, but there is no doubt the one I'm using (and others I've used in the past) is glass not plastic.
The last time I used plastic screen protectors was years ago, when glass screen protectors were not very common and too expensive.
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Find a spare old one and put a lighter to it, it's plastic
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Find a spare old one and put a lighter to it, it's plastic
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I don't think the lighter is a foolproof way of checking, glass screen protectors actually have multiple layers with the glass portion sandwiched in-between, so depending on what the external layers are composed of, it will probably exhibit different behavior.
In any case, I don't have any spare old ones, they go straight to the trash once they're at end of life, and it's not necessary to buy extras, they're easily accessible.
Let me ask you instead, would plastic material shatter? Would it crack or chip like glass? I don't think so. But some of my previous glass screen protectors have.
There's also the feel and touch of the glass material that no plastic can ever mimic.
Maybe there aren't any real glass screen protectors where you live, but here they're abundant and extremely common, sold everywhere and in use by like everyone.
If they weren't really glass, surely someone qualified would have already exposed the scam, since they cost more than regular film screen protectors.
Unless you're working in the industry or with proof otherwise, I have a hard time believing you.
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I don't think the lighter is a foolproof way of checking, glass screen protectors actually have multiple layers with the glass portion sandwiched in-between, so depending on what the external layers are composed of, it will probably exhibit different behavior.
In any case, I don't have any spare old ones, they go straight to the trash once they're at end of life, and it's not necessary to buy extras, they're easily accessible.
Let me ask you instead, would plastic material shatter? Would it crack or chip like glass? I don't think so. But some of my previous glass screen protectors have.
There's also the feel and touch of the glass material that no plastic can ever mimic.
Maybe there aren't any real glass screen protectors where you live, but here they're abundant and extremely common, sold everywhere and in use by like everyone.
If they weren't really glass, surely someone qualified would have already exposed the scam, since they cost more than regular film screen protectors.
Unless you're working in the industry or with proof otherwise, I have a hard time believing you.
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I believe you, it's glass sandwiched in plastic, so it's still plastic on the front and not glass, it's going to scratch and look rubbish.
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I believe you, it's glass sandwiched in plastic, so it's still plastic on the front and not glass, it's going to scratch and look rubbish.
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No, I never said it was sandwiched in plastic, I said it was multilayered. That does not make it plastic or non-glass.
For example, see this breakdown for a glass screen protector from a local shop:
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I don't see any benefit to continuing the "debate", so this will be my last response to you.
If you still want to believe glass screen protectors are plastic in some way or form, feel free to believe that, but please back up your claims instead of spreading misleading information.
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My phone lives most of its days in my pocket with no other objects, and curiously still manages to get scratches on the "9H scratch resistant Gorilla Glass level tempered glass" screen protectors that I use.
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If it was glass it wouldn't get scratches. Obviously there's some sort of coating on the glass that shows marks.
Edit: so in answering the question of the thread. No I don't think you need screen protectors to stop scratches. I still have a Z1c that's had two years of no screen protector and it looks like its come out of the box. Screen protectors might reduce your chances of a broken screen if you throw it at the ground face first, but it's a small %.
Screen protectors don't make your screen look good, because even the fancy glass ones have a plastic coating that scratches and looks rubbish after no time.
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Do you think it is still necessary to set on a Screen Protector?
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ALWAYS! I've still got the plastic protector on mine as I've messed about looking for a proper protector and noticed today it's got the slightest of gouges and I've no idea how it happened. Scratch resistance isn't scratch proof and is only takes the one incident to ruin a factory installed screen forever so never take any chances with my screens.
FYI when a glass protector is labeled as 9H it doesn't mean a 9 on the mohs hardness scale. It means it claims that it's as hard as a 9H pencil
Thx 4 your feedback! i guess ill put one onto but its hard to find a good one for the silver edition
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Question Remove Scratch from Gorilla Glass Victus

Does anyone here know how to remove the scratch on the Gorilla Glass Victus screen? the screen on my Samsung S21 Ultra was hit by a key so it caused a scratch that was a bit difficult to remove. Here I will send the picture.
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Probably not a key but spring steel ie key ring is hard enough to.
How deep it is determines if you can polish it how and how you do so.
If it's too deep polishing it will distort the glass.
You're dry palm and underside finger tip are abrasive to glass and can be used to polish out small scratches. It takes at least 30 minutes of rapid back and forth movement in the direction of the scratch with a finger tip.
I can't tell how deep that scratch is. If more than a micro scratch this technique won't work.
A Cerium Oxide based glass polish can cut it but you don't want to learn on this piece of glass.
The glass may also (I think it is) be chemically treated and removing that treated layer will degrade it. Any scratch in glass creates a stress point and weakens it.
Ignore it.
Get it replaced.
Try to finger polish it out if only a micro scratch.
A inexpensive screen protector like Gorilla IQ Sheild would have prevented this... if it happened once it will likely happen again.
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it seems to have a screen protector applied so the screen itself is not scratched...
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it seems to have a screen protector applied so the screen itself is not scratched...
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Agree...
Looking at the front camera the thickness of the screen protector is visible
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it seems to have a screen protector applied so the screen itself is not scratched...
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No, scratch was on the Gorilla Glass screen. I applied a screen protector after it was hit to prevent it from getting hit again.
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No, scratch was on the Gorilla Glass screen. I applied a screen protector after it was hit to prevent it from getting hit again.
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In that case, a very good option IMO would be to apply (over the Victus glass) a glass protector that uses transparent UV Glue for bonding.
The liquid UV glue will "fill" the gap without any buffing required. Bonus, the fingerprint sensor is OK, although it works around 50% less (and you have to registrer your fingerprints again after putting on the screen protector)
A kit is around 40$ now, with a USB UV light, a liquid glue, and a wraparound glass protector.
Mine was the SPIGEN Platinum 2.0.
It IS however, rather hard to apply correctly... takes 30 minutes minimum.
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In that case, a very good option IMO would be to apply (over the Victus glass) a glass protector that uses transparent UV Glue for bonding.
The liquid UV glue will "fill" the gap without any buffing required. Bonus, the fingerprint sensor is OK, although it works around 50% less (and you have to registrer your fingerprints again after putting on the screen protector)
A kit is around 40$ now, with a USB UV light, a liquid glue, and a wraparound glass protector.
Mine was the SPIGEN Platinum 2.0.
It IS however, rather hard to apply correctly... takes 30 minutes minimum.
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I second that
If you try to remove the scratch with any kind of abrasive you'll end up removing the coating of the glass, so a uv glue to work as a filler and hide the scratch would be your best bet.
thanito said:
I second that
If you try to remove the scratch with any kind of abrasive you'll end up removing the coating of the glass, so a uv glue to work as a filler and hide the scratch would be your best bet.
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Won't hide it; different refractive indexes...
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Won't hide it; different refractive indexes...
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It might work like a glaze/filler on car paint, never done it on my mob, but principal is the same.
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It might work like a glaze/filler on car paint, never done it on my mob, but principal is the same.
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Car finish isn't being looked through like glass (clear coat not withstanding).
A protective cover is the best you can do; the refractive index is the same across the whole surface. The scratch will still be visible either way.
If it really annoyed me I take a shot at polishing it out; by hook or crook.
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Car finish isn't being looked through like glass (clear coat not withstanding).
A protective cover is the best you can do; the refractive index is the same across the whole surface. The scratch will still be visible either way.
If it really annoyed me I take a shot at polishing it out; by hook or crook.
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Agreed, but imagine this scratch being a chip on the windshield and the uv glue used with a uv tempered glass protector being a resin that is used to repair stone chips on glass. Again the principal is similar, of course the scratch will not vanish but it may be less visible when you apply the glue and the glass tempered glass on top. Fgos, I am talking about tempered glass together with uv glue, not just glue to fill the scratch.
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Agreed, but imagine this scratch being a chip on the windshield and the uv glue used with a uv tempered glass protector being a resin that is used to repair stone chips on glass. Again the principal is similar, of course the scratch will not vanish but it may be less visible when you apply the glue and the glass tempered glass on top. Fgos, I am talking about tempered glass together with uv glue, not just glue to fill the scratch.
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Maybe that's what should be used; it's refractive index is very close to glass.
There's no easy fix that I'm aware of.
If shallow enough, a micro scratch it can literally be polished out with your hand.
I use a Gorilla IQ Sheild on my N10+ and keep nothing else in that pocket... this is why.
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Won't hide it; different refractive indexes...
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Like everything repair-wise:
Always try the ADDITIVE method first (that can be reversed), before falling back to the SUBSTRACTIVE method.
You can remove the glue, you can't unpolish your screen.
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Like everything repair-wise:
Always try the ADDITIVE method first (that can be reversed), before falling back to the SUBSTRACTIVE method.
You can remove the glue, you can't unpolish your screen.
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A fail is a fail. The more you screw around with it the more likely you'll cause additional damage.
You need to gauge it's depth; short of polishing it out, epoxy is the only material that has chance of enduring.
Easiest route, replace it or wait for it to break... if it does.
So in essence you are fooked, accept you screens damage and move on
Try to use UV glue tempered glass.
Mine was scratched like yours, and it vanished behind the tempered glass..
The downside is, your fingerprint scanner wont ever be the same again, eventhough the extra sensitivuty-thing has been turned on.
I've tried to re-register my fingerprint, but it still not as sensitive as before..
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In that case, a very good option IMO would be to apply (over the Victus glass) a glass protector that uses transparent UV Glue for bonding.
The liquid UV glue will "fill" the gap without any buffing required. Bonus, the fingerprint sensor is OK, although it works around 50% less (and you have to registrer your fingerprints again after putting on the screen protector)
A kit is around 40$ now, with a USB UV light, a liquid glue, and a wraparound glass protector.
Mine was the SPIGEN Platinum 2.0.
It IS however, rather hard to apply correctly... takes 30 minutes minimum.
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An additional recommendation is to at least initially buy tempered glass and UV glue from aliexpress for just a few bucks. You can buy 2 or 3 different ones from different sellers and hope to receive at least 1 higher quality protector. However I am recommending this as it is best to learn to apply the UV protection on the cheap. Instead of spending 40 bucks and making a ruining mistake.
And you also might have to re-register your finger prints like 3 or 4 times so it would be able to read them fast.
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An additional recommendation is to at least initially buy tempered glass and UV glue from aliexpress for just a few bucks. You can buy 2 or 3 different ones from different sellers and hope to receive at least 1 higher quality protector. However I am recommending this as it is best to learn to apply the UV protection on the cheap. Instead of spending 40 bucks and making a ruining mistake.
And you also might have to re-register your finger prints like 3 or 4 times so it would be able to read them fast.
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I've had different luck with different UV glue. I've had some that wouldn't stick at all, and one that was essentially super glue. Luckily, that was a work device.
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I've had different luck with different UV glue. I've had some that wouldn't stick at all, and one that was essentially super glue. Luckily, that was a work device.
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Indeed, hence why it is best to get from a few different sellers. I did once have the superglue effect on an S7 edge some years ago. It was a massive torture to remove after the tempered glass shattered. But since then this has not happened again and I have had over 10 UV applications on different devices. It is best to buy from sellers that have sold thousands of glasses and have at least hundreds of reviews. This would confirm that the certain item sold has existed for a while and it is confirmed to function normally.
https://www.corning.com/microsites/csm/gorillaglass/PI_Sheets/2020/Corning%20Gorilla%20Glass%20Victus_PI%20Sheet.pdf
https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/896188O/3mtm-liquid-optically-clear-adhesive-2321-technical-data-sheet.pdf?&fn=LOCA%202321%20TDS%20FINAL%20V3.pdf

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