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Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage
and your usb is probably whack
@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.
having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same thing has happened to me!! Coming on randomly, draining the battery really quickly and the same keys doing the same things as yours i.e. nothing or Start menu. The backspace and space don't work on the on-screen keyboard either. Is it the end of the road or has anyone the slightest idea what the hell to do!?!?!?
Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!
Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will
same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...
I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.
Any idea how to fix it??
keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry
For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?
oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix
adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.
Hey Guys,
I think I did a thorough research on that issue, but could not find any hints as how to solve it.
Background: I planned on flashing my ROM and thus first of all tried to get it on HardSPL. After some connection trouble I finally got it on (though the progress bar jumped from 0% to 100% instantly after like 1 minute instead of the indicated 10... is that normal?)
I then tried to reboot holding POWER+VOLUME DOWN, but it booted just regularly. Conclusion at this point: It is not on HardSPL. So I kept repeating, but never succeeded, until recently I noticed neither my VOLUME UP nor my VOLUME DOWN button works at all. Never, not matter how hard, gently or desperately I push - no reaction.
So apparently it is a physical problem. Does anymore know it? Ideas? In another forum I read that some Palm Pre users suffer from this issue on their devices. They advised to take out the battery and leave the phone in a bag of rice for 24 hours, as it is an issue of humidity.
Now if I think ahead - I do not even have a bill, but could probably get it form the seller - if I send it to SE as a case of warranty, they will certainly/probably see the HardSPL and send it right back.
Pretty srewed thing, huh? Anyone solved this problem so far?
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
I'm fairly new to the world of windows mobile and PDAs'. This website was recommended to me by a friend who has been using these types of phones a lot longer than I have.
Anyway, after buying my first windows mobile, HTC TyTn II, I used this mobile for a couple of months with its original ROM, and after a long conversation with my friend decided to flash the ROM.
It took me awhile to find a ROM I liked, eventually I did, but thats when the problems began to occur.
It is my belief that my soft reset button on the phone is either broken or possibly jammed and thus causing the phone to randomly reset (sometimes continuously sometimes at random points during the day), because of the countless times the soft reset buttin has been used, and i was just wondering whether there was a way to change the registry on my phone, or something similar, to disable my soft reset button.
I have searched the forum and read several long threads about other peoples problems with their phones soft resetting, and none of their problems sound anything like mine, their problems usually involve the phone not starting at all or getting past the OS loading screen, and my phone will do that eventually, it just soft resets at random.
Anyway, thanks anyone in advance for any help you can provide in this area.
Hixxy1991
What do you mean by soft reset button? Hole by the mini usb on downside of the device or power button on the right side, `cause Kaiser doesn`t have another button for something like that. Anyway, you can try to apply power on off function to another button (I`m not sure about that, search around forum for that), or try something with PsShutXp or XDA Shutdown (they both are free). And, of course, good luck!
The soft reset button is a switch... it's either in the on or off position. If your kaiser is randomly resetting it could be a software, battery or loose connection inside the phone issue. Could also be a bad flash or a dodgy rom. Read the stickies thoroughly and flash back to your original rom. If the reset problem still occurs then check the battery connections, etc. Poke a cocktail stick in the reset area (with battery removed), wiggle it around and see if any dirt/grime comes out.
Last resort is to open up the case using the manufacturers service manual, because getting to the reset area is a right fiddle, and not recommended if you haven't explored the guts and know your way around all the parts pretty well.
It's correct: the random reset may be due to a faulty rom/flashing problem and to a wrong battery contact...
It may be due to unstable software or to thousands of causes...
But what Hixxy1991 is saying may be a cause too...
The reset button is exactly a "button" i.e. a "monostable" switch similar to keyboard keys: it has a active "closed" position (when pressed) and a rest "open" position when unpressed.
Inside the button there is a little spring mechanism that holds the button in the rest position so that it gets closed only when you press it.
Due to the very little size of the button and to the unfrequent usage it was expected for, the spring isn't very strong so the Hixxy1991's supposition it isn't so unlikely...
Due to "phisical" cause, you can try to leave the phone over a soft cloth for a while, so it's away from vibrations, and look if it resets.
If yes, you can guess the problem isn't due to the reset button.
Even, you can check if shaking the phone drives it to reset...
I suppose there isn't any way to disable the reset button via software, as I can guess it's an hardware trap...
I'll check around if I'm wrong...
Stay tuned and, please, conduct both checks I suggested and let me know...
See You, Pino
sometimes this problem is due to a problem in the main board :s , and you won't be sure if this is the problem or not except when you try the solution posted above, one of my friends had this problem and it turned out to be what i told you, hope that flashing the rom would solve the problem getting you away from any hardware matters
thank you all
Thank you all for your advice, I have taken everything that you suggested onboard, however after trying both of ppelleg2003's checks to see if it is the hardware, and it was at this point that my mother, bless her mind so full of wisdom, decided to tell me to stop pissing around and just get in contact with HTC.
I then did exactly as I was told, sent them an email and they have asked me for the devices serial number so that they can see if the device is still under warranty, although i think its all academic now because someone sat on the device the other day and added a huge crack in the screen to my problems, so the device will have to be sent back to HTC for repair.
Once again, thank you all for your help
Hixxy1991
Sorry to hear about the damage... and it will surely not under warranty :-(
I wish You best luck in future
See You
Sorry to hear about the damage... and it will surely not under warranty :-(
I wish You best luck in future
See You
I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
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I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
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You can take it apart and clean it.
But first, I would investigate possible SOFTWARE issues. Wipe it clean and load a new system on it.
Yeah, my friend gave me the phone stock when it had the problem then I wiped it flashed it etc and the problem still occured.
Can you confirm if this worked? I have a similar issue:
I have a similar problem but not as severe. Almost all buttons work ok, just the buttons in the middle of the hw keyboard like y, h, b and space sometimes print other stuff, b sometimes writes a few characters and opens up the search, n sometimes writes some characters with an 'enter' in between etc. and these random outputs are usually the same, ie I get the same stuff by pressing b over n over again. They work fine after some pressing, and I've noticed if I press these keys immediately after pressing something else, they work fine. The problems has persisted through rooting, flashing, radio change, bootloader change etc. Anyone know what this problem is? Is it a hardware issue should I get it checked? The hardware guys here charge so much I have to be sure before I take this to them. Any way I can correct it myself? Any help would be appreciated.
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Please let me know.
My torx tools aren't small enough so I haven't bought a pack yet to actually try it yet. Im really interested in fixing this G1 so im not sure yet what to do.
Hi ryohazuki!
ryohazuki said:
I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
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I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem.
On HTC Dream there are several GPIO's involved with scanning the keypad, hardware keys and trackball sensors.
These GPIO's of the SoC (MSM7201A) inside are connected to 4-line ESD circuits to protect the chip, prevent voltage peaks and stuff.
Please have a look at this post or read the whole thread.
I found out that these circuits might be harmed by some electrical effects. As a result some of the GPIO's are shorted and affect the behaviour of your device in a strange way.
It's not sure what exactely causes this short circuit... maybe some peak voltage while using the wall charger or some strange inductive effect.
Maybe these protection circuits are little bit weak concerning electrical specs.
Whatever, as you might see at the date of my posts in that thread, i fighted several weeks to solve this issue and i'm pretty sure it's the same effect that causes your device to go mad.
Regards,
scholbert
I have this exact issue. I can rework/solder very small parts and would be willing to try your fix but I really don't think it can be a hardware issue, one because everyone gets the same gibberish and two because all keys function normally in recovery console. What am i missing?
Hey all, long time reader first time poster regarding troubleshooting. I searched the site and couldn't locate anything regarding this, so I apologize if I fail at research. I have a T-Mobile G1, and the phone very oddly is running perfectly when the keyboard has been exposed but once closed the phone freezes. No touchscreen movement, trackball, camera button, ect; only the power button idles the screen to black. Now at first I got worried but I flipped the keyboard out and it functions perfectly again. I rebooted phone and it is the same case, the G1 start up and rom loading screen will remain frozen unless I slide open keyboard.
Is this a motherboard error? Seeing the touchscreen functions when open I eliminated that, but has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, and sorry for wall of text.
iRidill said:
Hey all, long time reader first time poster regarding troubleshooting. I searched the site and couldn't locate anything regarding this, so I apologize if I fail at research. I have a T-Mobile G1, and the phone very oddly is running perfectly when the keyboard has been exposed but once closed the phone freezes. No touchscreen movement, trackball, camera button, ect; only the power button idles the screen to black. Now at first I got worried but I flipped the keyboard out and it functions perfectly again. I rebooted phone and it is the same case, the G1 start up and rom loading screen will remain frozen unless I slide open keyboard.
Is this a motherboard error? Seeing the touchscreen functions when open I eliminated that, but has this happened to anyone else? Thanks, and sorry for wall of text.
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Boot into recovery and see if the trackball works in there. If it does, then its simply a firmware issue and a full wipe should fix it. If it's not, then you probably dropped the phone or something and there is probably some sort of cable disconected/brocken inside the phone.
I completed a full wipe and am experiencing the same problems. I take very good care with my phone and was dropped once months back by someone bumping into me. Would it be possible for myself to self serve the phone and make sure all wires are secure? Or is it possibly anything else?
I have the same issue I've taken the phone apart along with many other G1s and have never seen this problem. I used this phone for almost 6 months lent it to a friend for a week and now it does this. So my guess is it's the flex cable between the screen and keyboard or would it have to do with the motherboard do you think?
I'm taking it apart as we speak I'll post what I find.
Did you have any luck, PlatinumMOTO?