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I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.
vishal uchiha said:
I need a long lasting mobile with good specs already tried honor play got screen burn issue in bright white color and flickering display don't know that peice was defective or its model fault.
Anyways need suggestion on what to buy for 3yrs use and need good specs and camera good enough to take notes picture, mi A2, redmi note 6 pro, honor 8x, honor play or asus m2 pro?
Which one should i go for? Poco f1 is not an option cux of cheap built and screen bleeding issue and soft bugs.
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I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it
To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664
Quantumkk123 said:
I recommend the most obvious then ...well actually if you want more customizablilty and a strong sturdy phone with exceptional performance for day to day tasks then mi a2 is good...if you want no customized and on disgusting emui but with a siginificantly faster 710 go for it
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Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.
vishal uchiha said:
Well i have heard battery problems in MI A2, how is redmi note 6 pro for daily drind use, is it durable for at least 3yrs? I have tried honor play but i don't think it's display or hardware is durable.
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Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset
pureexe said:
To be honest...
Read some topic about mi A2 issue before you buy it...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2/help/rom-issue-mi-a2-t3842664
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Is redmi note 6 pro durable like for 3 yrs? And what about honor play
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Well I haven't got any seriously because unless if 6 hr and 2 min of sot is battery issues you have a problem however redmi note 6 pro is not bad either apaart from annoying notch, lack of rom support and also slower chipset
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Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly
vishal uchiha said:
Well snap636 should be fast enough for normal day use and medium size games and i am talking about battery issue that when battery get to like 4% it take hrs in charging it and i don't think that everytime 4g net + google or games will work up for 6hrs.
The only thing i want is a durable phone with medicore specs to run smoothly
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Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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You ppl are experts this is the first time i am trying xiaomi phone the prob is if this one got problems within a yr the my father will make me spend my 3 yrs without mobile. cuz he wants me to buy sam but i don't like sam aside s series.
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Well why you asking us clearly you have your mind set on the redmi note 6 pro
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My luck is quite bad with mobiles, zenfone got bricked even after repair some it got bricked again and then purchased honor play then it had screen burn issue so got refund and today honor play price is decreased by 60$ but i don't know to trust honor anymore and all mobiles seems to be concentrating on specs instead of hardware durability.
This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.
tixoo said:
This phone has NO issues with battery life. The media and the journalists feed us bull**** all the time, they see a number and make an assumption. My phone lasts easily a full day with normal day of use with a lot of calls, a lot of searching on the net and some video watching in the car with some audio book listening. This phone lasts more than my old Samsung s8, than my newer Samsung s9 and on par with my last year mi a1.
Many people already said battery life is good if not greqt., But are afraid to say it is excellent because the tech YouTubers said it's "meh" for some reason, even though many of their phones that they own last less than this one.
This is one of the best phones under 300 and dare I say it comes close to even the bigger budget phones.
The only thing I can't comment on is gaming as I do not play games on my phone. I listed all my activities above you can make your educated guess. I have two phones left right now that I use that is my older Samsung s8 as one of my all time favorite phones, and this one, and I am thinking of getting rid of the s8 as well. The s8 as originally more expensive phone is fluid in terms of UI, better looking to me, better camera hands down, and more powerfull, but to be fair I could not care less about most of the things except I really enjoy the fluid UI Samsung has build in the past years with the S7 s8 and s9, but I am happy with the stock to so whatever.
Go for this phone dude, you won't be sorry in the next 3 years unless you play heavy games (for those I have no clue, you will have to ask some one else).
The only thing I would suggest if you have the budget is go for the 6GB ram version, that will help you last longer with your phone for sure, it's a future proof more than anything else.
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Couldn't have said it better my friend
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
strapabiro said:
Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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I mean the only key feature that many people think of approaching the Poco is the chipset it has for it's price....that's it
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Haha, If you don't like poco for the reasons you've posted forget the a2. Screen is a nightmare (compared to other lcd not oled, before some "akhchually" carebear shows up). Bugs talk for themselves. Build quality ok for the price, but it's disgustingly copying the iphone x, or it's just me.
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nightmare and disgusting are words that are usually used for phones of the 5-10 usd from china with shipping. I would not call any disadvantages or shortcomings that you think the phone has (obviously comparing to phones with higher price tag or with better individual parts but with other parts lacking) nightmares or disgusting.
but as you said its just you
ps: iphone copied samsung that copied iphone that copied samsung that copied apple that copied samsung that copied nokia that copied ericson that copied siemens that copied sagem that copied motorola.
point is bit invalid copying is the biggest form of flattery
I want to buy a new phone and I know that 7 plus is one of best option in my country Egypt right now (4555 egp = 261.75$) and the things that i was think have the same price Realme 2 pro and Mi A2
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9058&idPhone2=9140&idPhone3=9345#diff-*,mi-a2
and I think it's the best option right now and has a positive reviews so what do you think about it and what is Negatives about it and what about the pie update because I hear you talk about problems after the update
Thank you so much guys
ahmedvip2008 said:
I want to buy a new phone and I know that 7 plus is one of best option in my country Egypt right now (4555 egp = 261.75$) and the things that i was think have the same price Realme 2 pro and Mi A2
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9058&idPhone2=9140&idPhone3=9345#diff-*,mi-a2
and I think it's the best option right now and has a positive reviews so what do you think about it and what is Negatives about it and what about the pie update because I hear you talk about problems after the update
Thank you so much guys
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It depends what you are looking for.
Im a happy N7+ user, will keep the phone at least 2 more years. Running on pie, zero problems, battery up to 48 hours.
I just dont play games. A lot of photos (thanks GCam) , social, internet, i like the Android 1 concept. Now its price is dropped i think its a good deal.
For the Mi A2 i can just tell you build quality is not comparable with the N7+ and i read about the screen, if you wear sunglasses you cant see it well.
About the Rεalme, test the OS ... i come from EMUI and MIUI and still prefer stock android one.
Tomar777 said:
It depends what you are looking for.
Im a happy N7+ user, will keep the phone at least 2 more years. Running on pie, zero problems, battery up to 48 hours.
I just dont play games. A lot of photos (thanks GCam) , social, internet, i like the Android 1 concept. Now its price is dropped i think its a good deal.
For the Mi A2 i can just tell you build quality is not comparable with the N7+ and i read about the screen, if you wear sunglasses you cant see it well.
About the Rεalme, test the OS ... i come from EMUI and MIUI and still prefer stock android one.
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I also prefer android 1 but i hear about problems in charge , what about that
https://community.phones.nokia.com/...lus-usb-c-charging-port-fail-in-build-quality
and do you think it's a good deal or wait for something like mi a3 or pocophone 2 or something
I am also change my phone every 2-3 years
there are cases that report this problem and other little things now and then, its true.
But i think the majority doesn't have them, and since you buy a new device you have warranty, so if something comes up you bring it back and demand a repair.
I too have zero problem with Pie (no charging/battery/wifi/bt/usb/screen problem which you can read from some peoples here in some n7p threads)...
Only problem is no officially way for unlock bootloader, but if you buy with nonupdated (security <= august) and you dont install ota, is possible unofficially unlock (payed service(generating signature file based on your imei/sn) per 4$ and you unlock it with this file)...
Device with newer update is need downgrade before unlocking (another payed service 6$? Is need remote to ypur pc with vonnected phone)
ahmedvip2008 said:
I want to buy a new phone and I know that 7 plus is one of best option in my country Egypt right now (4555 egp = 261.75$) and the things that i was think have the same price Realme 2 pro and Mi A2
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9058&idPhone2=9140&idPhone3=9345#diff-*,mi-a2
and I think it's the best option right now and has a positive reviews so what do you think about it and what is Negatives about it and what about the pie update because I hear you talk about problems after the update
Thank you so much guys
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The phone is from late 2018 it's not even half a year old so I don't understand what you mean with 'still' worth. I come from a Droid Turbo (XT1254) and I spend around a week to carefully select the right phone, I also did this when I made the decission for the 7+.
The upsides in daily experiences:
Battery lasting (disable the Evenwell batterysaver for more durance),
Camera (on gcam it's crazy good quality)
Speed
Sound (loud and good)
Memory slot
The downsides I have discovered:
USB-C connection (could also be dirt, or the cable)
Screen is no amoled, and in sunlight performs like most devices
After rooting, not that much mods as I am used to like Droid Turbo
I am very happy with this device, it's a very good follow up to my Droid Turbo although I miss the IR-sensors that Motorola put on the Droid Turbo. At meetings it was like "how did you do that" when I wave to see the incoming messages. It was fun
ahmedvip2008 said:
I want to buy a new phone and I know that 7 plus is one of best option in my country Egypt right now (4555 egp = 261.75$) and the things that i was think have the same price Realme 2 pro and Mi A2
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9058&idPhone2=9140&idPhone3=9345#diff-*,mi-a2
and I think it's the best option right now and has a positive reviews so what do you think about it and what is Negatives about it and what about the pie update because I hear you talk about problems after the update
Thank you so much guys
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Very happy with the phone also.
No issues on Pie.
Min. 2 days battery (no gaming, YouTube or Facebook).
If this phone would have been smaller (like 5.6" pixel 3) it would have been perfect.
Xiaomi phones are cheap, but with a reason.
Not sure about realme, but Android one is worth it.
Good luck.
If you don't use NFC, buy Redmi Note 7 (Pro).
k3dar7 said:
I too have zero problem with Pie (no charging/battery/wifi/bt/usb/screen problem which you can read from some peoples here in some n7p threads)...
Only problem is no officially way for unlock bootloader, but if you buy with nonupdated (security <= august) and you dont install ota, is possible unofficially unlock (payed service(generating signature file based on your imei/sn) per 4$ and you unlock it with this file)...
Device with newer update is need downgrade before unlocking (another payed service 6$? Is need remote to ypur pc with vonnected phone)
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What is the benefit for unlocking bootloader is it for root or something else?
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The phone is from late 2018 it's not even half a year old so I don't understand what you mean with 'still' worth. I come from a Droid Turbo (XT1254) and I spend around a week to carefully select the right phone, I also did this when I made the decission for the 7+.
The upsides in daily experiences:
Battery lasting (disable the Evenwell batterysaver for more durance),
Camera (on gcam it's crazy good quality)
Speed
Sound (loud and good)
Memory slot
The downsides I have discovered:
USB-C connection (could also be dirt, or the cable)
Screen is no amoled, and in sunlight performs like most devices
After rooting, not that much mods as I am used to like Droid Turbo
I am very happy with this device, it's a very good follow up to my Droid Turbo although I miss the IR-sensors that Motorola put on the Droid Turbo. At meetings it was like "how did you do that" when I wave to see the incoming messages. It was fun
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yeah the N7+ is released in march 2018 and now we are in 2018 so its one year old now
and there is other devices in nokia like nokia 6.1 plus(3,900egp = 224.45usd) , nokia 7.1(5000egp=287.75usd), nokia 8.1(5990egp=344.73usd)
yeah nokia 6.1 and 7.1 lower than 7+ put 8.1 is higer in cpu
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9178&idPhone2=9354&idPhone3=9342#diff-61-plus,*,*
the other thing i want ask about what do you mean by that down side (USB-C connection (could also be dirt, or the cable)) because I don't get it
Thanks
XunSuslo said:
If you don't use NFC, buy Redmi Note 7 (Pro).
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I have bad experience with redmi note 2 so I don't know if i will go with device from xiaomi again
I think my next device will be android one from any company that give me best specification with good price
ahmedvip2008 said:
What is the benefit for unlocking bootloader is it for root or something else?
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Yes, for me, for TWRP, rooting with Magisk, Magisk mofules, Greenify in better root mode, TitaniumBackup, access to all apps data, F-Droid privileged (instakl/update direct without need manualy confirm all packages install)...
For others is also benefit try others roms (also GSI pissible), others kernelm etc...
edit: also with unlocked is possible downgrade to any previous Pie /Oreo
ahmedvip2008 said:
the other thing i want ask about what do you mean by that down side (USB-C connection (could also be dirt, or the cable)) because I don't get it
Thanks
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It's loose on several Nokia devices due to a designflaw at production. The port is too big and gives room for the cable to move/get loosen. One solution is to 'fatten' the cable through knife, or to just use a docking station.
Sending a loose USB-C for warrenty will just fix the problem temporarly and a lot of phone fixing companies take days/weeks + may return your device with new scratches.
ahmedvip2008 said:
I want to buy a new phone and I know that 7 plus is one of best option in my country Egypt right now (4555 egp = 261.75$) and the things that i was think have the same price Realme 2 pro and Mi A2
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9058&idPhone2=9140&idPhone3=9345#diff-*,mi-a2
and I think it's the best option right now and has a positive reviews so what do you think about it and what is Negatives about it and what about the pie update because I hear you talk about problems after the update
Thank you so much guys
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Presonally I would not recommend at all.
Why? This phone is stupidly unstable. Few days ago I wanted to delete history in Chrome from the last 7 days, my phone freezed during the delete process.
Also uninstalling apps is for some reason slow, even when uninstalling or disabling some apps can cause also phone to freeze. The list could be even long, you can find issues I find on my posts through my profile.
Really tired of this phone, and dissapointed because I am emotionally connected with the Nokia brand, having now Nokia phone was a must, but unfortunately I regret.
I am still on older build, 32CC, I saw there are much newer builds where they maybe fix those issues, but I cannot even manually sideload those updates.
I don´t know what is the situation with other phones like 8.1, 7.1, do they have similar problem? Can anyone confirm this?
Also you can see that HMD struggles with the software, Nokia 9 which was supposed to came out back in August last year and which came 7 months later, still have software issues, probably everyone at HMD is all in to fix software issues for Nokia 9, also literally not a single Nokia device did not get March update, which shows that HMD is really poor with the software engineers.
hi, i bought my Nokia 7 plus on April 2018 for MYR1600. Phone good on paper but bad in implementation.
Frequent screen freezes (power off n on to fix issue) n loose USB port after 6 months. Sent to service center n they replaced usb port n motherboard. update November 2018 update n screen blank off when making receiving calls.
they replace the same thing again. RUN AWAY FROM THIS PHONE
Bad sides is Speed and Usb-c port issue for me. It has all aroung good stuffs
There's no lineageOS and 60fps video (and official bootloader unlock, not even a recovery tool!). If you don't care about those, then its still a great buy from what I've known so far. Heard that the camera is good. It's included in my shortlist.
Spend a bit more and you can get the Xiaomi f1 and even xz1 (bit old but not bad).
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
slimshady112 said:
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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I have zero software issues, my phone never turns off and if I don't play games it will last 3 days.
What do you need? A real gaming phone with average camera and killer everything else but no real dev support or a mainstream like any other phone with great dev support and very good all around?
I wouldn't trade Rog for one plus, I came from one plus. It's all about your personal needs.
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I have zero software issues, my phone never turns off and if I don't play games it will last 3 days.
What do you need? A real gaming phone with average camera and killer everything else but no real dev support or a mainstream like any other phone with great dev support and very good all around?
I wouldn't trade Rog for one plus, I came from one plus. It's all about your personal needs.
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I'm just looking for a phone with a bigger battery and a 120hz display. I'm coming from a Xiaomi Mi 9T. I've seen the S20 in real life and the 120Hz display just blew me away. Kinda hard to stick with 60Hz now. I don't really care that much for games or for the support, I just want the phone to work good overall. I don't make that many pictures, but I'm sure the ones I would take would be more than good enough. The only thing I worry about now is the cellular support as my carriers support only 800Mhz band and 1800Mhz band. The phone however does not support 800Mhz or B20. I've got an option to buy an unused global edition ROG2 for just 520 euros so I think it's worth it.
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Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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Before I bought my rog 2 was in same situation as u...rog 2 or 7t...to me the 7t has better camera , software support but only with 90hz screen...now I'm on rog 2 rocking 120hz screen , big 6000mah batt and a camera while isn't great but usable so I don't regret my decision...
P.s - I've used OnePlus devices in the past as well
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Before I bought my rog 2 was in same situation as u...rog 2 or 7t...to me the 7t has better camera , software support but only with 90hz screen...now I'm on rog 2 rocking 120hz screen , big 6000mah batt and a camera while isn't great but usable so I don't regret my decision...
P.s - I've used OnePlus devices in the past as well
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Great, I'm glad I'm not the only one that was deciding between these two. I have an option to buy a new unused Rog2 global edition for 520 euros or the OnePlus 7T for 570 euros. I'll go with the ROG2. Thanks!
slimshady112 said:
Hey guys. I've looked at the forums for the ROG 2 and honestly I'm torn between getting the ROG2 or the OnePlus 7T now...the ROG2 clearly has some software issues where the phone turns off by itself and the unsupported B20 band (800Mhz) for 4G coverage just screams future unpredicted problems to me. What would you guys say? Should I just save myself the troubles and go for the 7T? Are you guys satisfied with your ROG2 phones or should I go for the safer alternative, the OnePlus 7T?
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I absolutely love my ROG Phone 2. Had it for several months now (since September) and have had zero software issues or restarts or anything like that. I have the Tencent 8gb/128gb model and am in the USA on AT&T and have zero signal or bandwidth/speed issues! And the battery life is just... Well... There's literally no other device on the market that can compete with it on battery life!
slimshady112 said:
Great, I'm glad I'm not the only one that was deciding between these two. I have an option to buy a new unused Rog2 global edition for 520 euros or the OnePlus 7T for 570 euros. I'll go with the ROG2. Thanks!
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ROG Phone 2 supports B20 (at least global version does, cant speak for tencent as I'm not sure)
Seriously where is this OnePlus has better camera came from !
With device camera all the reviews on YouTube came to the conclusion that Asus is better and with gcam it's even better than my note 10!
vodovodo said:
Seriously where is this OnePlus has better camera came from !
With device camera all the reviews on YouTube came to the conclusion that Asus is better and with gcam it's even better than my note 10!
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Coming from a OnePlus 7 pro. That device had a terrible camera. Even OnePlus admitted that they are not satisfied with the camera performance..
I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
I just use 90Hz most of the time to get most of the benefits without the problems.
B20 is available if you get the 12GB model. There are no issues with it suddenly turning off.
Not a perfect phone but does everything that I want of it.
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I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I completely disagree, especially about 120 fps. I've noticed absolutely no difference in battery life by using 120 FPS vs 60 fps (I regularly get 11 to 13 hours of screen on time with general use on 120 fps) and now that I've used 120 fps on a phone I find 60 fps atrociously slow/laggy/choppy, especially during scrolling. It makes any device using 60fps feel horrible now. 120 fps is a massive improvement. Yes I'll agree not many games support 120 fps on Android yet, but the ones that do are so smooth.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I completely disagree, especially about 120 fps. I've noticed absolutely no difference in battery life by using 120 FPS vs 60 fps (I regularly get 11 to 13 hours of screen on time with general use on 120 fps) and now that I've used 120 fps on a phone I find 60 fps atrociously slow/laggy/choppy, especially during scrolling. It makes any device using 60fps feel horrible now. 120 fps is a massive improvement. Yes I'll agree not many games support 120 fps on Android yet, but the ones that do are so smooth.
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Well, the games I play hardly hit 60 fps at high settings at which point they start guzzling the battery and heat up the phone. As for the scrolling (as I've already mentioned), agreed, but I'm not in the habit of constantly scrolling at high speeds.
And to note, frame rate and refresh rate are different things. Frame rate is on the software front and refresh rate is on the hardware front. Both need to match for the best experience. You can use game genie to see the frame rate you're actually getting.
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I was trying to decide between the 7T and ROG 2 and went with ROG 2. Been using it for the past two months. One of the biggest issues I face is with the display, and had I known this before buying I wouldn't have picked this. It made me unable to watch my shows before sleeping, but hopefully this'll get fixed with Android 10.
Other problems include extremely slow software support (and with a high chance of 10 being the last version), minimal customisation options, and the weight. The weight becomes really noticeable and starts hurting your arms if you're trying to use the phone while lying on the back (so another stab at my shows, though I hope it'll buff me up xD)
Edit: Also, I can't figure out why there's zero dev support (no custom ROMs)... I don't plan on rooting my phone or swapping ROMs yet, but I'd like to have the option to do so. Surprised that there isn't one right now.
Another Edit: Oh, and I absolutely can't figure out the hype with 120Hz... I tried it for a couple days, but found it hardly worth anything, especially with the phone incapable of putting out 120 fps on most proper games, the the only real benefit can be observed during scrolling at which point it becomes pointless, so I just turned it off for better battery/performance.
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If only we get a good custom kernel for Android 10. It should increase the performance to close the gap with SD865, i get around 516k in antutu, and I've seen the xaiomi mi 10 getting around 537k in a YouTube review. There's a chance to overclock this device because it has good cooling compared to my previous OnePlus 7 pro.
Anyways, custom roms are usually very buggy and stock rom isn't lacking in any way, it has everything you'll find in any custom rom, plus some features that might not fully work on custom roms.
And btw, i do not have that screen issue that you've mentioned above.. mine is 12/512 elite version.
It's the overall best android phone I've used so far, and I've been using it since October. Battery life is awesome ? even with x mode and 120hz both on all the time.
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And btw, i do not have that screen issue that you've mentioned above.. mine is 12/512 elite version.
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Wow! Really?! Geez, now I wonder if I should get a replacement...
But 10 pages of complaints, and their acknowledgement of the issue on Twitter...
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Wow! Really?! Geez, now I wonder if I should get a replacement...
But 10 pages of complaints, and their acknowledgement of the issue on Twitter...
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Seems like the Tencent version or the first version that came in July is the most affected by this issue than the second/elite version. But yes, my screen is fine.
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Seems like the Tencent version or the first version that came in July is the most affected by this issue than the second/elite version. But yes, my screen is fine.
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I'll be getting the 8gb 128gb global edition and hopefully it's not defect in any way! Should be better than my Xiaomi Mi 9T in any case lmao.
I have both rog 2 and 1+ 7T pro 5G.
I've used the 1+ for maybe a few hours total. Screen/battery life/ user experience feels better on my rog
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I have both rog 2 and 1+ 7T pro 5G.
I've used the 1+ for maybe a few hours total. Screen/battery life/ user experience feels better on my rog
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Hi all,
Just a quick one, thinking of buying the mi 11 but will be just a UK stock one as not really got time for flashing etc, just wondered with battery life and other connectivity issues would you still recommend buying ?
Cheers in advance
Not yet if ur life depends on flashing custom roms
Even tho it appears you can do plenty of tweaks with ADB tool ??
Struggling to find a replacement for my mate 20 pro !! Defo need wireless charging which a lot don't have
not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device
I'm very happy for my mi 11. I'm on Xiaomi stable EU rom.
Works nice, battery life is ok (120hz screen and resolution obviously eat battery somehow).
Work smooth, is super.
Only one minutes is that night video mode it is not good as it was on official Xiaomi materials for this phone.
Screen is beautiful, worth of buy for it.
qvert said:
not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device
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How could you buy a phone that looks and feels in a way that you don't like ?
Some things you find out about a phone after using it a while, but there are pictures even on google...you can see how it looks and how big is it.
I have Mi 11 and yes, the battery is ok, but it could be better if the CPU wasn't so power hungry.
The rest of the "issues" that you listed are your fault, or a local issue...not all Mi 11 have those issues.
qvert said:
not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device
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I've got to be honest, I think the device is amazing in every way, and my phone background is Samsung Note series phones, and to be honest, this is an amazing device.
Battery life is very good, and I have no complaints about anything else if I'm honest.
You mention changelog, but where you go to update the software, it tells you what was included in the last software update ?
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How could you buy a phone that looks and feels in a way that you don't like ?
Some things you find out about a phone after using it a while, but there are pictures even on google...you can see how it looks and how big is it.
I have Mi 11 and yes, the battery is ok, but it could be better if the CPU wasn't so power hungry.
The rest of the "issues" that you listed are your fault, or a local issue...not all Mi 11 have those issues.
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thats why i said its my issues and not everyones
still it's the worse device (FOR ME, not for everyone) i purchased since years and i buy 1-2 phones every year
and i had a bunch of xiaomis too
my last devices somehow are like
Mi 11
Pixel 5
Oneplus 8 Pro
Poco f2 Pro
Mi 9t Pro
Oneplus 7 Pro
and the mi11 simply disappoints me personally
It would be fine if it would be cheaper or if i would not get a poco f3 which is doing everything the same except a slight worse camera for 1/3 of the money
qvert said:
thats why i said its my issues and not everyones
still it's the worse device (FOR ME, not for everyone) i purchased since years and i buy 1-2 phones every year
and i had a bunch of xiaomis too
my last devices somehow are like
Mi 11
Pixel 5
Oneplus 8 Pro
Poco f2 Pro
Mi 9t Pro
Oneplus 7 Pro
and the mi11 simply disappoints me personally
It would be fine if it would be cheaper or if i would not get a poco f3 which is doing everything the same except a slight worse camera for 1/3 of the money
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This is the first phone you ever had that comes with SD888, so don't compare.
Hey man, ignore the others. The phone is great. I purchased it for only £500 and it's the best phone I've ever purchased. The only downside I see is battery life. With my usage I get around 5 hours on screen time but this is without using the battery saver and with 120hz enabled. If you tweak some settings you can easily get upwards of 6 to 7 hours.
If you know what to expect from MIUI, then it isn't really a big deal. However, if you are used to clean ROMs, then MIUI will slap you.
It comes with a lot of suspicious apps and most of Xiaomi is about colorful effects that do nothing. There are a lot of bugs and overall the focus is 90% on themes and design rather than functionality (e.g. you can't use one handed mode when you got gesture control active).
If I knew back then what I know now after using a Xiaomi for 2 weeks, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Very happy with mine, bought chinese version £500 and flashed Xiaomi stable EU rom which is clean while saving money pretty much up there with S21 ultra for spec while costing less Love the screen at 120hz and set res to FHD as I cant tell the difference I get around 5-6hours SOT and overall build is very good pretty difficult to find something at this price and spec
Also dont mind MIUI actually like it
Looked at Wanda for buying one, but didn't know you could put EU rom on ?
Did some flashing in past but not done anything recently so some questions,
- it easy enough with these ??
- also what's updating like ? do you need to do them yourself once flashed ? you don't get any OTA ?
- do all standard google / banking / gpay stuff work ?
pss53 said:
Looked at Wanda for buying one, but didn't know you could put EU rom on ?
Did some flashing in past but not done anything recently so some questions,
- it easy enough with these ??
- also what's updating like ? do you need to do them yourself once flashed ? you don't get any OTA ?
- do all standard google / banking / gpay stuff work ?
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Hey man, flashing the xiaomi.eu ROM is pretty easy. It is basically a modified version of the China ROM so have all of their cool features. You can check out the guide by visiting their site or checking the thread which should be a couple below this one. Updating is done via twrp flashing as you do not receive OTA updated. Google works fine however you may need to do some tweaking to get your bank app/gpay to work. For example I needed to install an app called adaway to block some DNS so that my bank app would work. Hope this helps.
Cheers and if I bought global version would you need to flash that??
Just I struggle for my own "tech time" now i'm busy with work and a wife ! :-D
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Cheers and if I bought global version would you need to flash that??
Just I struggle for my own "tech time" now i'm busy with work and a wife ! :-D
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No wouldnt need to will work fine
pss53 said:
Hi all,
Just a quick one, thinking of buying the mi 11 but will be just a UK stock one as not really got time for flashing etc, just wondered with battery life and other connectivity issues would you still recommend buying ?
Cheers in advance
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I have UK model (supplied by UK H3G network vendor), with Global MIUI 12.5 (Android 11).
Battery life is stellar
SOT is 8+ hours at 60hz
OS is stable and smooth.
Wireless and reverse wireless charging work perfecty.
Mi 11 5G is basically on par with a Samsung S21 Ultra at half the price (minus the 10x zoom lense).
Before I had Mi 10 which I bricked somehow, idk for sure it's my fault but anyway I've got refund of price which I paid when I bought 10, so natural choice of my was 11, and in comparison to 10 it's way better fingerprints reader, faster which you can feel everywhere, stunning display even when compared to 10, still way better, battery lot better, camera no words the huge difference, in overall my 10 had about 250 apps and was really slow sometimes, getting hot with no reason,.
Now 11 the same amount, almost but mostly all, before bootloader unlock and flashing Xiaomi.eu is working as I expect from mobile, fast, no lags and no overheating.
But it's not like 10 was bad, try to understand me comparing to 10 Xiaomi made a good job and released much better successor. That's it, if my 10 would still work I probably wouldn't buy it.
Previously I had mix 2s and wait two generations to hop into new one, and same before.
In overall it's very good model, and I don't regret that I picked that one instead of Poco F3 or whatever else. I trust flagships are better not only with 10-15% performance, where's more of everything...
I'm considering upgrading to a 10 Pro from my current 8 Pro but I'm curious if current 10 Pro owners would consider it worthwhile. I'm not having any huge issues with my phone but the back of the case is cracked pretty bad and I'm thinking about upgrading before I start to have problems.
I'm rooted but running the stock OS13 and would probably do the same on a new phone.
What's your opinion? Thanks in advance.
If your goal is just to root and run stock, then it'll be a great device for you in my honest opinion. It's really held back by a lack of true recovery tools, which has led to no true custom ROMs for the device anyways.
But the 10Pro can be rooted, unlocked, and updated just fine as long as you take the time to learn how to do it properly without flashing. It's been serving me this past year just fine, still working pretty much as brand new.
@Prant thanks for the reply. I would assume the update process would be similar, restore stock image in Magisk, update and then install Magisk again before rebooting but I could be wrong. I read that the MSM tool works for the 10 Pro now and I linked to the article below. I don't care about a custom rom as long as the stock rom doesn't get glitchy when rooted, which it hasn't so far, but a recovery tool adds a layer of comfort. Anyway, thanks again for your input.
MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro: The Final Nail in the Coffin
In this guide, we will show you the steps to download the MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro and then unbrick your device using this tool.
www.droidwin.com
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@Prant thanks for the reply. I would assume the update process would be similar, restore stock image in Magisk, update and then install Magisk again before rebooting but I could be wrong. I read that the MSM tool works for the 10 Pro now and I linked to the article below. I don't care about a custom rom as long as the stock rom doesn't get glitchy when rooted, which it hasn't so far, but a recovery tool adds a layer of comfort. Anyway, thanks again for your input.
MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro: The Final Nail in the Coffin
In this guide, we will show you the steps to download the MSM Download Tool for OnePlus 10 Pro and then unbrick your device using this tool.
www.droidwin.com
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The MSM Tool for the 10 Pro requires an authorized OPPO account to be used and no bypass has been found yet (there is an entire thread about this on XDA).
DroidWin is just a copy paste website and should not be trusted.
TheNewHEROBRINE said:
The MSM Tool for the 10 Pro requires an authorized OPPO account to be used and no bypass has been found yet (there is an entire thread about this on XDA).
DroidWin is just a copy paste website and should not be trusted.
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Good to know. Thanks again.
I notice no major difference from my OP8 pro to OP10 pro.
I upgraded because my OP8's battery wasn't lasting as long. And Im not going to "settle" for the OP11.
In the end I get the following benefits:
- slightly longer battery life
- updates will keep coming for a while
- Android auto works reliably in my car.
For the last one, ever since upgrading my OP8 to Android 12 and 13 it doesn't connect to my car reliably. OP10 with Android 13 works fine.
If money isn't an issue, it's probably worth it for updates. If it hurts to drop 700 or so, then stick to the OP8. It's still a great phone.
Oh.. in the US, the OP10 isn't dual sim. I used dual sim. This is a feature I lost.
The OnePlus 8 Pro is a great phone and unless you're having battery issues, I'd stick with it. Developer support and wireless charging are huge advantages.
I sold my 8 pro to my neighbour, I took a chance on OnePlus by not checking out the 10 pro beyond its specs...
Gone is the excellent macro camera, the photocrom camera, the superb XDA dev's and the plethora of mods for it.
It has the same ability to root, a great camera, zero development, very few mods besides the one I've brought myself like center clock..
I truly miss my 8 pro, it did everything I could ask. The 10 does have a better CPU/GPU and more battery but that really is the only upside.. in regards to the phone itself you'd be hard pushed to see a difference.
My advice is this:
If you've treated your 8 pro well, you've not overcharged it and you've not dropped it then I would retain it... If you've treated it like a piece of crap then I'd say get the pixel 7 pro...it's quite cheap now and has some great development going on...
It's a sad time for OnePlus users, however we can learn from it and I hope OnePlus (oppo) learns some valuable lessons from this, they'll lose a valuable fan base who's influence goes way beyond its 1% purchase scope compared to the average users of OnePlus devices.
Time will tell I guess, but right now I would say avoid the 10 pro and the 11, they are of the same Ilk
I changed my phone from the OP 7 and I don't see any noticeable difference in speed (apps launch in the same time), and the default camera takes blurry photos when there is little light (where in the OP7 this was not the case). I wouldn't change if I were you (I would consider OP11, where there is faster memory).
For sure not i have both devices!
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I changed my phone from the OP 7 and I don't see any noticeable difference in speed (apps launch in the same time), and the default camera takes blurry photos when there is little light (where in the OP7 this was not the case). I wouldn't change if I were you (I would consider OP11, where there is faster memory).
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If custom ROMs are something that's needed then I'd avoid the 11 as they won't be there... Hope im wrong but I doubt it.
See some people in this thread recommending the OP11, and I can honestly say that's a terrible choice from what I've seen. The 10Pro is the last one with some semblance of recovery, from what I've been watching over at the 11Pro forums... things are even worse over there.
They even have went as far as to block calling from outside China after 30 days of use outside their home country, if you didn't activate the device in China with a china sim first. With refusal to help customers, stating things like just activiate it in china.
With the lost features, i.e. no wireless charging, less speed over USB, worse radio for USA.. I do not think we as a community should be supporting this company at all going forward, this will definitely be my last OPlus phone but I will continue to use it until it stops.
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If your goal is just to root and run stock, then it'll be a great device for you in my honest opinion. It's really held back by a lack of true recovery tools, which has led to no true custom ROMs for the device anyways.
But the 10Pro can be rooted, unlocked, and updated just fine as long as you take the time to learn how to do it properly without flashing. It's been serving me this past year just fine, still working pretty much as brand new.
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@PieceKeepr I echo Prant's statement, it matches exactly my experience and sentiments. OP10 Pro has been the best OP phone I've used, going all the way back to the 3T.
Fast wireless charging
OnePlus lock screen gestures
alert slider
excellent screen
Most importantly, easily rootable.
Those are my top priorities in a phone, and no other brand has all of those.
Also:
I really enjoy the way the phone feels in the hand, especially with the carbon fiber case from OP.
Stereo speakers are great
Camera is good/sometimes great
Performance is great
Battery life is pretty good (hungry CPU, but large battery)
the new OS is not as bad as everyone complains about, IMHO. Much of the things I don't care for are Google's fault anyways.
I have both devices and I've put the 10 Pro up for sale.
You barely notice any difference, except that the OnePlus 10 Pro version of OxygenOS 13 is abominable.
I'm still hoping for official LineageOS support hopefully soon, but...
Well I would highly recommend not buying this rubbish of a phone.
OxygenOS 13 is now a buggy piece of chinese rom that tend to crash every now and then.
The cooling in this phone is non-existant - overheating very often resulting in prompt "Your phone is to hot, we had to shut down some servces".
You won't be able to use wireless android auto while wireless charing (too hot).
The list goes on and on.
After a year of struggle with this I will be selling it next month - what a relief.
OnePlus is dead for me and damn, I have OnePlus One, OnePlus 5 (the best phone ever existed) and OnePlus 8T, so I can say I experienced myself the fall of this brand.
What do you recommend, besides a OnePlus device for custom roms? I have been looking to buy a OP9P (for the MSM tool/roms) as an upgrade to my OP6, but with the overheating and bad battery life (888), its not looking good.
If the custom rom scene is dying, I don't mind getting a OP10Pro and doing what I can with de-bloating and rooting...
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What do you recommend, besides a OnePlus device for custom roms? I have been looking to buy a OP9P (for the MSM tool/roms) as an upgrade to my OP6, but with the overheating and bad battery life (888), its not looking good.
If the custom rom scene is dying, I don't mind getting a OP10Pro and doing what I can with de-bloating and rooting...
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The last golden OPlus seems to be the OPlus 8 Pro if you can find one of those. Full recovery tools available and a plethora of custom ROMs. Being only 3 years old it won't fall off for the next 4 or so years comfortably.
That being said, I've never had heating issues with the OPlus 10 as other people have said. The device is really good for running stock + root imo, the battery life has also been about the same since I bought the device. Still runs PS2 games like a champ on lunch breaks. One full charge a day, and it only takes like 25 minutes to charge to full. Perhaps user device care has a play in this thread just as much as the silicon lottery.
Google Pixel is probably the best otherwise, but I'd personally be super weary using their phones as the exploits coming out of research departments are insane.
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The last golden OPlus seems to be the OPlus 8 Pro if you can find one of those. Full recovery tools available and a plethora of custom ROMs. Being only 3 years old it won't fall off for the next 4 or so years comfortably.
Google Pixel is probably the best otherwise, but I'd personally be super weary using their phones as the exploits coming out of research departments are insane.
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Yeah, I've heard good things about the 8 Pro. I borrowed a Pixel 6a for a week, thought it would be the spiritual successor to my OP6. The vulnerabilities are definitely too much for a new device, so I gave it back.
Coming from the OnePlus One and then the 6T (what a phone!), I really had to get used to the 8 Pro's curved screen. I'm still not a huge fan of the screen, but otherwise I do love my 8 Pro! With LineageOS it's such a super clean and enjoyable experience!
I also shortly tried the OnePlus 3 and 3T, which I bought for my parents when I had the 6T, and I gifted my brother the 7T Pro later. Man, what a slick, gorgeous phone! The only slight screen curve is perfect!
I think I'll stay on the 8 Pro for a while then. Maybe Nothing releases a good phone in a couple years. Or maybe OnePlus somehow decide to return to their roots and release a really incredibly specced and priced phone someday again.