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I've read through several reviews that the galaxy note web browsing battery test score is low due to the fact that the default explorer takes its toll on the gpu , have any of you tried non stock browsers and had better battery life with it ?
i my self use dolphin HD and i get the same results
its not entirely the GPU's fault. if you check out the PC world, GPU's are more energy efficient than CPUs. ie. my gtx560ti soc had 384 cores running at 2ghz and draws 205w, my i7 2600k only has 8 hyperthreaded cores running at 4.5ghz and it draws 180w, guess which one has much more processing power and better performance per watt?
the reason why the battery dies so quickly with web browsing isnt because of the GPU and CPU, but because of the AMOLED screen. when an AMOLED screen is black, it uses no power. when an AMOLED screen is fully lit up white, it draws full power. most web pages have white backgrounds, which means the AMOLED screen is constantly running at full power, which is the reason for terrible battery life whilst web browsing. some people had a fix for it by modding opera browser to set backgrounds to black instead with white text, that went a long way towards improving battery life.
well part of what you said is true about white backgrounds but thats not the main problem
in gsmarena's battery test it scored about 8.5 hours on video playback while only 3.5 hours in web browsing , sure some of the extra consumption are contributed to wifi or 3g usage but the gap is above the normal range .
My default browser is Opera Mobile,it is not hardware accelaerated so I constantly get between 5-6 hours of non stop browsing with it,besides it supports text reflow when pinched to Zoom and am too used to it from my days on HD2..
The other two ,the Stock and Dolphin rarely I use them.
4 months later and first time I'm hearing about this.
I personally use stock browser. Not a fan of dolphin HD, but dolphin mini is cool and opera mobile is also great.
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I hope that with the ICS browser we will see an improvement, i know it won't be that much because of the Super Amoled Screen but in ICS you can invert the color scheme so white will be black and that will make a big change for people who browse a lot!
My battery life using Opera Mobile seems fairly good im using a CSS file for a black background which I found really helps.
hagba said:
My default browser is Opera Mobile,it is not hardware accelaerated so I constantly get between 5-6 hours of non stop browsing with it,besides it supports text reflow when pinched to Zoom and am too used to it from my days on HD2..
The other two ,the Stock and Dolphin rarely I use them.
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Yes it is.
"he latest versions of the Opera Mini and Opera Mobile get an extra boost of speed and power. Even on sites with secure encryption or lots of graphics, pages load with a snap and scroll smoothly. You’ll also be able to play the next generation of games on your mobile device, thanks to WebGL hardware acceleration.[/I]"
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Mezoxin said:
well part of what you said is true about white backgrounds but thats not the main problem
in gsmarena's battery test it scored about 8.5 hours on video playback while only 3.5 hours in web browsing , sure some of the extra consumption are contributed to wifi or 3g usage but the gap is above the normal range .
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i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
the ICS browser on the galaxy note has the option to invert colours, that will improve battery life dramatically.
White on Black
Souai said:
i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
the ICS browser on the galaxy note has the option to invert colours, that will improve battery life dramatically.
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That's why XDA mobile (also Youtube) is so good with a black background.
I use Dolphin and find it is very good with lots of great features. However it does chew battery but mainly because I still visit many websites with white backgrounds. I've tried reducing brightness until white is almost grey but battery still disappears.
But again - as I keep saying - small price to pay with such a brilliant screen to be able to view entire web pages. Who cares if you have to charge every night?
I'd also recommend buying extra batteries or a USB recharger if you are going away for more than 24 hours
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
jakiman said:
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
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Thanks - just downloaded and trying now. Will give it a few days and let you know.
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jakiman said:
IMO, the best Android web browser is Maxthon. Super fast, tab browsing, gestures etc.
I use it as my main browser on my desktop PC and now also on my Android phones.
It also has a night mode which darkens the screen and also inverts the page colors so the white background becomes dark gray / black.
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Been running Maxthon and Boat off and on for the last month or so. Both are very useable and responsive, and the 2 "lightest" full-featured browsers I know of. There are a few things I prefer about each, so haven't settled on a primary, yet... but the slight edge goes to Boat at the moment. Watching System Panel and a few other tools, Boat seems to be requiring fewer GPU and CPU resources while browsing (no flash sites while comparing).
Souai said:
i dont see how your quote disproves what im saying. the white backgrounds are the main problem believe it or not. videos often use dark colours, hence the extra battery life with videos. even gsmarena mentions the amoled white screen thing in their review iirc.
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What the..? This thread is filled to the brim with misinformation.
First of all, using GPU is a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Videos consume so little battery exactly because all decoding, including audio, is done in hardware, there is almost nothing for CPU to do while playing video. Go ahead and install e.g. MXPlayer and disable H/W decoding and try playing videos then; you'll notice battery-life dropping to barely 3 hours.
Secondly, Gingerbread does not use GPU for almost any of the regular 2D operations. And guess what? Web browsers do quite heavy amounts of 2D graphics, and since they're not accelerated all those operations must be done in software. ICS does support GPU-acceleration for quite many 2D operations so you'll see much improved battery-life when browsing the web on ICS.
Mezoxin said:
I've read through several reviews that the galaxy note web browsing battery test score is low due to the fact that the default explorer takes its toll on the gpu , have any of you tried non stock browsers and had better battery life with it ?
i my self use dolphin HD and i get the same results
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There's an app called Wi-Fi TX Power with which you can set wifi receiver signal strength. I'm not sure how much power it can save, but on my old HD2 it reduced the peak power usage while browsing from 500 mA to some 200/300 mA.
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I tried to install some leaked JB custom roms such as Ultimate, SVA, or Rocket rom. In my opinion, JB battery drains faster than ICS custom rom.
why? kernel issue?
I also tried Jelly bam and slim bean 4.1.2. Those roms have better battery life.
Screen on time is only 3 hours on JB custom rom as the same usage, and ICS or AOSP JB rom have more than 4 hours screen on.
I do not have other android devices. Basically Jelly bean is worse than ICS on battery life? How about galaxy nexus between JB and ICS?
I hope official Jelly bean update will be fixed this battery issue by Samsung.
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i have xxlsa and 4 hrs of screen on time. it will take some time to settle down... also check for wakelocks and apps that drinks the juice
Most JB leaks have a media scanner issue with large folders, it keeps running in the background draining your battery at high CPU load
Try to go into Settings -- Applications -- running and stop media scanner and see if the problem resolves
if it did, download a free app from play store 'rescan media' to stop media scanner and enable it on demand.. However, new media (pics and music) will not appear on the gallery or the music player if u didn't run the media scanner first (Provided you have rescan media disabling media scanner)
Best of luck
Mohammed Atef said:
Most JB leaks have a media scanner issue with large folders, it keeps running in the background draining your battery at high CPU load
Try to go into Settings -- Applications -- running and stop media scanner and see if the problem resolves
if it did, download a free app from play store 'rescan media' to stop media scanner and enable it on demand.. However, new media (pics and music) will not appear on the gallery or the music player if u didn't run the media scanner first (Provided you have rescan media disabling media scanner)
Best of luck
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Agreed.
Also look into disabling Google Now if you aren't using it. That's also a major cause of battery drainage. My battery life increased by a decent margin after I disabled media scan and google now!
Also disable location stuff like GPS and the other ones that help my battery a lot
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I agree the battery drains faster with the JB leaks. Confirmed with every ROM I tested, however it's not that much compared to Samsung ICS ROMs. What really helped me is JuiceDefender Ultimate customizing the settings so it turns off the radios and limits the CPU clock when the screen is off, besides other things. But when you are actively using it, there's not much you can do.
try alliance beta 1.1 LSC it gives me 4.5 hrs on moderate use ...
Hi all,
I just want to know If somebody else is suffering the issue ?
To make it short, randomly this process is not stopping and running until my device is so hot that makes me aware about this issue.
Also by reading the stats of battery usage, this process is almost 1st and I am not a music listener on my normal daily usage (impossible at my work).
I have tried like everything I know:
Reboot
Kill process
...
Nothing really satisfying and do not know what is causing it ???
Any ideas around there ?
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Nobody is suffering the same ?
Please share your Xperiance
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chrisftlse said:
Nobody is suffering the same ?
Please share your Xperiance
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Multimedia process is 2nd place most of the time. and never i use multimedimedia file.
But i do around 18h of usage with 4h screen on.
So i think its a visualization bug because the battery life is pretty good.
Multimedia or media server ? If it is media server/scanner it's probably because of broken image file or music file ( if it is image the broken it won't show in the gallery and you'll see black pic instead). If you have some kind of music/video files you can check them for errors too. If the process is multimedia...
Could be caused by a MKV file stored in the external S.D. Card ?
As default Sony player didn't read it, it perhaps tries to create thumb...
Do you know a workaround to avoid this (if it is the cause) ?
BTW thanks for the hint
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Is media server just how audio playback shows? I was just listening to audio all day, like about 7 hours. And I checked battery usage, and mediaserver was showing 70% usage. But the actual audio apps I was using didn't show at all. I thought that might have meant that media server was also how locally played media shows at it is the low level library for the actual playing.
Mobe1969 said:
Is media server just how audio playback shows? I was just listening to audio all day, like about 7 hours. And I checked battery usage, and mediaserver was showing 70% usage. But the actual audio apps I was using didn't show at all. I thought that might have meant that media server was also how locally played media shows at it is the low level library for the actual playing.
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Flashed stock unbtanded version and back to normal
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Hopefully I've put this in the right section, as I believe the questions sections is for help requests rather than general survey style questions (eg the What are you running on your N5 thread).
Anyway, I'm sure we use our phones for a lot more than calling and texting, so post what you use your device for!
Here's some of the things my phone helps me with:
Reminders (Google keep/now, they should be integrated) - I have horrible memory so these help heaps
Timetable (Google Calendar) - use the lock screen widget so I just swipe to see what classes I have
Homework/tasks (Google keep)
Social networking (Fb, telegram, Instagram, snapchat etc)
Media (YouTube, MX player, Vines, Unis video player, uListen)
Tracking food intake (My fitness pal)
Alarm (Alarmpad)
Taking photos of documents and things on the board (Camscanner - highly recommend)
Syncing all my school work that I do on my home computer in case I forget to sync my school laptop before leaving as cloud storage is blocked (Google Drive/Bittorrent Sync)
Browsing XDA/reddit (Tapatalk/Reddit Sync)
That's all I can think of for now, your turn!
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Google+, Hangouts, Flipboard, Sunrise calendar, YouTube, XDA, Instagram Facebook etc.
No particular order
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goes on the Q/A section, not here. but if you were to ask me, I would say taking phone calls, texting, skyping, playing CPU extensive games such as Real Racing 3, Ravensword 2, GTA SA, etc, listening to music, alarm clock, stopwatch, timer, clock, taking photos/videos, browsing Facebook, 9GAG, XDA Forums, using Chrome, Google Keep, Google Calendar, and most of all, tweaking my phone to the best of my ability to make things look right and just right.
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I normally just use mine for the basics...calling, texting, important school email etc. It's also my primary alarm clock. Aside from that, I also use Keep to make sure I know what's due when and when I need to be where, not to mention music and social networking. I guess you could say I don't mess with my phone as much as I did when I had my HTC One. Although the N5 is rooted with a few mods, I try not to get too caught up in the realm of XDA as it does get quite addicting
Always start my day turning off my alarm, stock clock application is fine for me.
I use my phone as a music player A LOT, PowerAmp doesn't seem to work well with this phone for me so I use Google Play Music now.
Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Keep keep me organized. Office Mobile + OneDrive is my choice for office suite and cloud storage.
Most of my reading is on Chrome and Newstand.
Mostly to read news. It is also my alarm clock.
as a phone.
Amost Everything! GPS, Alarm, Banking, NFC, OTG, Browser, Tethering, Email, Texting, Camera, HDMI to TV, Phone, Entertainment, Weather, Calculator, etc.
My phone is my college companion: I often take notes by connecting a Bluetooth keyboard, read PDF documents, write and read emails, manage my cloud documents, and share its 3g connection to my laptop.
Then I use it for text messages (Hangouts, WhatsApp...) and Internet browsing, sometimes as a music player.
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Email..
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Everything it can do. Calls, texts, email. Some games. Web browsing. YouTube, XDA, etc. Use Wallet & NFC to pay for stuff at a couple gas stations and stores in my areas. I use it to record notes (quick record feature on custom ROM). I use it as my alarm clock. I have an app to track my work hours and how much I make per hour. To track my expenses. As a GPS. HDMI mirroring to my TV for Netflix. Social networking. I use it as a camera as well. Pretty much everything it is capable of doing, I use it to do. I love it.
At the same time, writing this list I also realized how dependent I am on my phone. It's gonna get real once SkyNet takes over.
I switch between the N5 and M8 daily, but I mostly use my N5 for modding and tethering
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Voice calls , sms , listening to music, camera, youtube and playing some games
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Hi,
For benches, tweaks and kernel tests only...
And sometimes all the rest that a smartphone can do if I have enough battery life after 01H10 of total use of Antutu and Quadrant and after about 10 reboots a day due to some tests...
It's a Nexus device after all...
Calling family, texting family and friends, music, YouTube, browsing forums via Tapatalk, general web browsing and retrieving information from the internet when I am out.
I play around with the camera too and use the camera to capture anything and everything.
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MUSIC.
I have it all day right next to me hocked up to my stereo via Bluetooth. I just love how easy it is to hear music all the time. And even if I'm not a home, I'm using my Klipsch S4 for that.
And of course for WhatsApp, XDA and for taking photos with the lovely camera. I love playing around with it (trying out new Roms, kernels and apps), tweaking it to my needs. I love my phone.
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Instagram hey guys can I flash uber linaro on validus
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Other than phone and texting ~~
Ebook reader, news reader, public transport checking, emails, calculator. (in order)
occasionally, facebook, but only through a browser. (Facebook app asking for too much permission, not installing it.)
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
For benches, tweaks and kernel tests only...
And sometimes all the rest that a smartphone can do if I have enough battery life after 01H10 of total use of Antutu and Quadrant and after about 10 reboots a day due to some tests...
It's a Nexus device after all...
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you basically use it as a guinea pig?
Aadilnz said:
Hopefully I've put this in the right section, as I believe the questions sections is for help requests rather than general survey style questions (eg the What are you running on your N5 thread).
Anyway, I'm sure we use our phones for a lot more than calling and texting, so post what you use your device for!
Here's some of the things my phone helps me with:
Reminders (Google keep/now, they should be integrated) - I have horrible memory so these help heaps
Timetable (Google Calendar) - use the lock screen widget so I just swipe to see what classes I have
Homework/tasks (Google keep)
Social networking (Fb, telegram, Instagram, snapchat etc)
Media (YouTube, MX player, Vines, Unis video player, uListen)
Tracking food intake (My fitness pal)
Alarm (Alarmpad)
Taking photos of documents and things on the board (Camscanner - highly recommend)
Syncing all my school work that I do on my home computer in case I forget to sync my school laptop before leaving as cloud storage is blocked (Google Drive/Bittorrent Sync)
Browsing XDA/reddit (Tapatalk/Reddit Sync)
That's all I can think of for now, your turn!
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I cannot think of what I DON'T do with my N5, other than the usual calling , texting , social networking , gaming , scheduling , music and video streaming etc etc I do a lot of reboots.
Hello,
What browser are you using for the S21U ? I have tried chrome, samsung browser, kiwi, and firefox but they seem to kill the battery way too fast. I don't watch movies or videos, I just read articles and do very minimal browsing but the battery is taking a big hit from browsing. Any battery friendly browser you recommend?
In a strange turn of events Samsung's browser has been the best for me.
Samsung Browser
paul_cherma said:
Hello,
What browser are you using for the S21U ? I have tried chrome, samsung browser, kiwi, and firefox but they seem to kill the battery way too fast. I don't watch movies or videos, I just read articles and do very minimal browsing but the battery is taking a big hit from browsing. Any battery friendly browser you recommend?
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Samsung browser and Bromite - Bromite provides the least stutter while loading heavy pages with adblock on.
Nothing beats KIWI Browser.
babyboy3265 said:
Nothing beats KIWI Browser.
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In my snapdragon device kiwi was the best. For some strange reason on my exynos s21U is draining the battery too fast
Been using the Samsung browser for 5-6 years now, irrespective of the phone make. Initially for the ad blocker addons, now it's all around better than chrome.
I've been using Samsung Internet with AdGuard, Chrome, and Firefox with uBlock Origin and other extensions.
I also set Private DNS to dns.adguard.com in Android Settings.
I don't notice any big battery drain differences.