Hi everyone,
so my issue is simple, yet I don't know what to actually do.
After a recent update via Google Play of some applications (i think that's the main problem), my draw pattern (a correct one) is not recognized by the phone anymore. Whatever I do, my Lock Screen doesn't recognize my correct pattern and lock itself from 10 seconds to 5 minutes depending on how many times I've tried to open it. Even my fingerprint is not recognized (altough as far as I remember, it never is when my phone boots for the 1st time, as pattern must be validated first).
My phone becomes unusable, as it can't unlock. The only 2 options I have are "Emergency call" or "Forgotten password". The latter option just says I have to Wipe Data Format which is not an option for me, as I have important things on my phone.
What solution could I apply, so I can unlock my phone WITHOUT having to delete my data :/
Important to note:
- It's not a problem from screen protector (I've removed it..)
- Generally I was using the option for invisible draw pattern, thus no one sees what I draw as extra protection (maybe it could be part of the problem now after some updates of random apps).. but obviously is working
- My SIM code is still accepted and it's fine, so not everything was Reset for whatever reason, as it's not 0000..
- My phone is updated to the absolute latest version available via OTA and nothing else was added or done
- I didn't use 3rd party Lock Screen other than the one included with the Xiaomi 11T Pro from the system
- I was using Bitdefender (which was not updated when the problem occured), which has the option to randomize pin for applications only (not pattern)
- I've also made the battery drop and the phone to turn-off and left it like that for 2 days to see if it will somehow reset/remember my pattern, but nothing..
I read so many guides online from Google and all seem are promoting some sketchy software which I dont want to risk with unless it's 100%.
Model: Xiaomi 11T Pro 5G 256GB 8GB RAM with Miui 14 (European version)
Thank you Xiaomi friends!
Weird that updates on the playstore have created this problem.
Not much to do, security issue.
NOSS8 said:
Weird that updates on the playstore have created this problem.
Not much to do, security issue.
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Well, I see no other reason for this to happen. Doubt someone hacked me, altough at that time I was using Public wifi in a hotel. It can't be Bitdefender as well I think to scramble my pattern and I've remotely removed it. I've read that maybe if in my pocket the wrong pattern was entered by accident many times, that it will reset, but it makes no sense to me. I'm using latest versions of MIUI and standard apps (not using any unknown ones), everything is from Play Store, as I really can't imagine what issue could be, but for sure I would like to enter without deleting my data :/
Never seen or had this problem and it may be Bitdefender that caused this problem.
No solution without deleting your data.
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Never seen or had this problem and it may be Bitdefender that caused this problem.
No solution without deleting your data.
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I was thinking the same, but remembered that LockScreen for Bitdefender was disabled way before that. It was not working for the official Xiaomi LockScreen to scramble anything (especially pattern) as I choose which apps to lock and it was not working on it. It does it only for applications which I've selected and with pin numbers :/ Also I've remotely removed the app support via their Center which means that even if that was the problem (for some unknown reason turned ON lets say), it should not be valid now. Also it was not updated via the last moment I had it working , so for sure it's not this the problem unless someone hacked Bitdefender via my profile, which should be valid also for my 2nd Xiaomi phone, but there I have no problem and it seems very unrealistic scenario for me :/ Also if it was true, they can't change my pattern or pin via website. Problem is somewhere else, as I remember, most were some Google and Xiaomi apps that got updated which I even usually don't use like Auto. I really look for some way to unlock it or somehow make my phone "remember" the correct invisible pattern :/ of course to delete everything would be most easy but that should be last last resort for me :/
Try here to see if the password or account is still the same and works.
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Try here to see if the password or account is still the same and works.
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I didn't register Xiaomi Account when I took my phone, neither it has such, I don't have Xiaomi Cloud or account, I just have Google account in order to use Google Play :/
Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, try boot a twrp a12/a13 for 11t pro, see if you can retrieve your data using that.
If you're not unlocked, wipe/format data is your only option. Either from recovery or your google account
x3r0.13urn said:
Is your bootloader unlocked? If yes, try boot a twrp a12/a13 for 11t pro, see if you can retrieve your data using that.
If you're not unlocked, wipe/format data is your only option. Either from recovery or your google account
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As far as I know it's not unlocked/rooted or anything as it's brand new phone I bought in November. So in such case, whatever I do or read from sketchy apps/websites/videos, I should not trust and it's 100% impossible to unlock it or recover my data in any way? In general I can open the notification to turn Wifi on/off, etc, but I can't view messages for example, so just very basic things
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I didn't register Xiaomi Account when I took my phone, neither it has such, I don't have Xiaomi Cloud or account, I just have Google account in order to use Google Play :/
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Interest to have a Xiaomi account:
Ability to locate the phone and erase data in case of theft or loss.
Cloud Backup:
Sms, Calls, Mms, apps, password, bluetooth, etc..
NOSS8 said:
Interest to have a Xiaomi account:
Ability to locate the phone and erase data in case of theft or loss.
Cloud Backup:
Sms, Calls, Mms, apps, password, bluetooth, etc..
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I am privacy concerned about Xiaomi in general, so that's why I try to minimize services used by it. I have the ability to locate and erase data with BitDefender and Google as well, but that's not an issue at the moment. I can do it, but won't do me any favor. Also Xiaomi Cloud is the last place probably someone would want his private information stored from the hundreds available free alternatives, also is limited to just 2 GB as far as I remember by before, which indeed is useful for SMS, but nothing else. I dont see a reason to use it , neither why would my phone do unnatural things. I worry that this issue will repeat, so yes, backup is always worth to have, but I couldn't imagine I will need it so soon and that it will be for such unlogical reason which none of us seem to know what's the problem which really frustrates me and makes me rethink in general the use of Xiaomi, as such random events happening should be a red flag
Hackera93 said:
Hi everyone,
so my issue is simple, yet I don't know what to actually do.
After a recent update via Google Play of some applications (i think that's the main problem), my draw pattern (a correct one) is not recognized by the phone anymore. Whatever I do, my Lock Screen doesn't recognize my correct pattern and lock itself from 10 seconds to 5 minutes depending on how many times I've tried to open it. Even my fingerprint is not recognized (altough as far as I remember, it never is when my phone boots for the 1st time, as pattern must be validated first).
My phone becomes unusable, as it can't unlock. The only 2 options I have are "Emergency call" or "Forgotten password". The latter option just says I have to Wipe Data Format which is not an option for me, as I have important things on my phone.
What solution could I apply, so I can unlock my phone WITHOUT having to delete my data :/
Important to note:
- It's not a problem from screen protector (I've removed it..)
- Generally I was using the option for invisible draw pattern, thus no one sees what I draw as extra protection (maybe it could be part of the problem now after some updates of random apps).. but obviously is working
- My SIM code is still accepted and it's fine, so not everything was Reset for whatever reason, as it's not 0000..
- My phone is updated to the absolute latest version available via OTA and nothing else was added or done
- I didn't use 3rd party Lock Screen other than the one included with the Xiaomi 11T Pro from the system
- I was using Bitdefender (which was not updated when the problem occured), which has the option to randomize pin for applications only (not pattern)
- I've also made the battery drop and the phone to turn-off and left it like that for 2 days to see if it will somehow reset/remember my pattern, but nothing..
I read so many guides online from Google and all seem are promoting some sketchy software which I dont want to risk with unless it's 100%.
Model: Xiaomi 11T Pro 5G 256GB 8GB RAM with Miui 14 (European version)
Thank you Xiaomi friends!
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Weird!! It even happened to me today, all of sudden my daily unlock pattern isn't working. Even I need the data in it
prithvi9679 said:
Weird!! It even happened to me today, all of sudden my daily unlock pattern isn't working. Even I need the data in it
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Hey, also on 11T Pro? And after update?? Do you remember last things that happened before it "forgot" the pattern? And was it also the invisible type of it? Tell more details, maybe we can get some common points and maybe some solution could be found hopefully :/
Yes on Xiaomi 11T Pro, received miui 14 a week ago. It just randomly happened yesterday as my fingerprint is not detected it asked me to draw the pattern. When I drew it doesn't allow me into phone even though the pattern is correct. For me the pattern is VISIBLE.
did you activate usb debugging? and at least once connected with your pc?
then you can get your files with XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar
that's the only option you have left before deleting everything on your phone.
ricos1995 said:
did you activate usb debugging? and at least once connected with your pc?
then you can get your files with XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar
that's the only option you have left before deleting everything on your phone.
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Indeed, it is necessary to have activated the USB debugging and to have already used this program so that the authorization is granted.
Anyway, nothing about this program will remove security or be able to recover data.
NOSS8 said:
Indeed, it is necessary to have activated the USB debugging and to have already used this program so that the authorization is granted.
Anyway, nothing about this program will remove security or be able to recover data.
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yes it can "recover data" but not reset or change the passcode
ricos1995 said:
yes it can "recover data" but not reset or change the passcode
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Nope, there is no such option and even if it existed, this data is encrypted.
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Nope, there is no such option and even if it existed, this data is encrypted.
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forgot it was encrypted
Guys, do you think it's worth to wait for some "miracle" to happen? It seems it's some bug that happens to other people too and hopefully Xiaomi takes action. Maybe if I can get update in background, might get fixed without the need to Wipe data?
PS: I did use before USB Debugging, but from the Settings. I dont know how to turn it remotely from the computer. I also have installed ADB, but I'm not sure how to debug it as it doesn't detect my phone now :/ The XIAOMIADBFASTBOOTTOOLS.jar I havent used.
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Even if one has installed some kind of lockdown/tracking software + lock pattern there is always the possibility that a thief would know how to reflash and/or wipe the phone or be able to use Google to find out how.
Has anyone worked on adding the possibility of locking access to fastboot, recovery and OS boot? (Password protecting adb would also be a nice addition.)
There is not much these forums about it. Here is a thread that died: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531225
I would be fine with compiling my own recovery image if that is what it takes to get my own password, but I guess fastboot is the biggest concern.
I hope some smart developers will take their time to read this and think about it. Let's hear some input on how big of a task this is. I am sure it can be done, so take the challenge and show us some love.
wow this is an awesome idea. ya because apps like mobiledefense or wavesecure would be useless if the thief knows how to wipe the phone. this would be great and i would love to see it work. i dont know crap about making my own recovery or else i would do it if thats what it means to make my own password protected recovery. but like u said, fastboot is a greater challenge.
I could see recovery maybe having this but the bootloader you are out of luck unless you have a dev or holiday version of the nexus. We currently cant flash custom SPL's because they are sig checked.
What happens when you forget your password? Brick?
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What happens when you forget your password? Brick?
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Damn if you forget it than you are just too stupid, lol Jk
but good question, however i don't think any development on this will be done anytime soon, id definitely support it though if it ever starts.
Locking the SPL would require us to be able to write/flash one, which is currently impossible
Maybe a petition to google to set forth this new option then?
Because I was thinking the same thing...our laptops can do it, because duh, if someone steals your lappy they could just wipe to get the hardware so we can put a BIOS password so even thats impossible.
Our so 'open' phones should follow suit...please google, read this. It would be a fantastic option, that way its rendered completely useless to anyone that steals it and is smart with them (aka anyone reading these forums ).
THANKS
I want it
I've been thinking of how to 'secure' my phone's data again since I unlocked the bootloader... but this would be the way.
The feature request goes like this: Password protect the bootloader both for fastboot and getting into recovery (the option to start recovery should be password protected). A wipe is required in order to reset the password.
An additional and optional theft lock (along the lines of what the OP wants) would disable the password reset/wipe feature altogether, essentially bricking the phone if the password is unknown. Not exactly what I want (I just want my data to be safe), but should be easy enough to add both options if we have the code and can flash the SPL.
Obviously this is going nowhere if we can't flash the SPL, but there's no harm in putting this out there for Google to include in the next signed SPL.
Everyone should realize that unlocking the bootloader essentially puts all the data on your phone out there for anyone to grab without a password, given that they know a few things about fastboot/recovery. This is likely why Google forces a wipe when you originally unlock. We 'unlockers' should be given a way to get that security back.
We'd also need to find a way to 'type' a password (for the recovery option) while in the bootloader, since there's no keyboard. You could use the volume toggle to cycle through letters or numbers, but this puts this option far past a 'trivial' change to the SPL code. This may be why Google didn't include the option in the beginning.
theslam08 said:
Maybe a petition to google to set forth this new option then?
Because I was thinking the same thing...our laptops can do it, because duh, if someone steals your lappy they could just wipe to get the hardware so we can put a BIOS password so even thats impossible.
Our so 'open' phones should follow suit...please google, read this. It would be a fantastic option, that way its rendered completely useless to anyone that steals it and is smart with them (aka anyone reading these forums ).
THANKS
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A computer bios password only keeps people from changing bios settings. They can still format the hard drive.
bubbahump said:
I've been thinking of how to 'secure' my phone's data again since I unlocked the bootloader... but this would be the way.
The feature request goes like this: Password protect the bootloader both for fastboot and getting into recovery (the option to start recovery should be password protected). A wipe is required in order to reset the password.
An additional and optional theft lock (along the lines of what the OP wants) would disable the password reset/wipe feature altogether, essentially bricking the phone if the password is unknown. Not exactly what I want (I just want my data to be safe), but should be easy enough to add both options if we have the code and can flash the SPL.
Obviously this is going nowhere if we can't flash the SPL, but there's no harm in putting this out there for Google to include in the next signed SPL.
Everyone should realize that unlocking the bootloader essentially puts all the data on your phone out there for anyone to grab without a password, given that they know a few things about fastboot/recovery. This is likely why Google forces a wipe when you originally unlock. We 'unlockers' should be given a way to get that security back.
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This would be really great... an idea, if ever possible, to overcome the bricking phone by password being lost, is somehow emailing it to the registered google account... or maybe sending an sms to a known phone number that was registered before...
dalingrin said:
A computer bios password only keeps people from changing bios settings. They can still format the hard drive.
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Actually you can set an ON-BOOT password, which will prevent it from being booted at all without the password. Unfortunately, it is not that great a security measure, since you can just reset the BIOS using the jumper on the motherboard. Also, every BIOS manufacturer leaves a backdoor in case of forgotten passwords, just do a Google search for BIOS DEFAULT PASSWORDS.
But, the main thing to remember here is that we do not have a keyboard, and very limited buttons to use. So, what are you thinking of using? A combination of buttons (similar to the quick-reboot)? Or, cycling through with the volume/trackball, kind of like on a briefcase/suitcase (argh, imagine the frustration).
The next thing would be the implementation of such an idea.
If the SPL is to be modified to be password protected, we would need to source code - which I don't think is available.
If the recovery is to be password protected, it would need to have immediate access to a rewriteable portion of the internal memory for storage/retrieval of said password (as would the SPL, but first things first - gotta have the source).
A simple qwerty on-screen keyboard and using the trackball to select characters would work fine. Up and down with volume keys or whatever to type in characters is not a viable option for long passwords.
It seems all this would be of no use without the possibility of flashing our own SPL, so I guess this is a bigger task than I thought at first. We all know SPL's have been hacked many times before, so I believe it can be done on the Nexus One too. But, because of the already unlocked SPL opening up flashing heaven, I am not so sure anyone is going to use any time on figuring it out.
This is what we are left with:
1. Find a way to flash a custom SPL. Piece of cake right?
2. Create an SPL with the possibility of adding password protected fastboot/recovery. Protecting boot will probably not be necessary, as it would make it impossible to trace a stolen phone.
Let me comment on the privacy issue: I am not really very concerned about the data on my phone. Of course I would not want all the pictures and videos I have shot to fall into the hands of complete strangers, but I try not to keep secret/sensitive data on my phone. It is not really very difficult to take the sdcard and put it in any other device or card reader to get all the data off of it. All the password protection in the world will never get us around some physical security. (Maybe I should make another request for encrypting the sdcard?)
What I want is to be able to somehow find the bastard(s) that took my mobile and get it back without it being wiped first. Though there is always the risk that they would not get past the unlock pattern and just throw it away right away. Let's just hope they left it powered on within network coverage.
How does Android store Gmail login credentials? Are the information cookie-like (only session information) or is there an actuall password (encrypted or not, doesn't matter) stored somewhere? If the latter than that would be very bad for the security of the Gmail account (most critical apps there are Mail and Checkout). It would probably be a good idea to change the Gmail password as soon as one starts missing his Android phone.
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One way of increasing the odds to get a stolen phone back would be to flash a custom ROM with an embeded and preconfigured security application that installs automatically and silently after a wipe. Not perfect because a thief could just flash another ROM but there's a greater chance of a device getting wiped than not getting wiped, right?
I guess a password in recovery would add an extra percentage to those odds too.
So much for this request. Someone moved us to Q&A, so I guess this is doomed for now. We'll just have to keep our phone safe.
maedox said:
So much for this request. Someone moved us to Q&A, so I guess this is doomed for now. We'll just have to keep our phone safe.
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Sorry for the bump. But seriously this is a must.
Any Nexus with unlocked bootloader leaves the internal memory unprotected (All your photos in DCIM folder, etc).
You just need to enter fastboot and flash a custom recovery.
Hello
Well i have a phone that has exactly what was being mentioned in this thread and i have literally tried everything everyone is saying about flashing, etc.
My phone was stolen yesterday evening. They turned it off which of course locked the pin, but if they remove the pin, how much of my phones data is accessible including saved passwords on accounts?
Can someone remove their SIM and see what access the phone grants them to accounts stored on the phone, like email etc?
To the best of my knowledge if they pull the sim card they will not be able to access any of it, and I doubt they stole the phone to get into your gmail. If someone stole it for themselves and are able to get past the pin, they will likely wipe it asap. If someone stole it to sell...the same.
Still to be on the safe side you should change your password with Google and any other accounts that could access your credit card info.
Sorry your phone was stolen, but your secrets should be safe.
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effgee said:
My phone was stolen yesterday evening. They turned it off which of course locked the pin, but if they remove the pin, how much of my phones data is accessible including saved passwords on accounts?
Can someone remove their SIM and see what access the phone grants them to accounts stored on the phone, like email etc?
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Not sure on the I9000 version but i know I can get at all the info with or without a simcard inserted on the Captivate. I would change your passwords ASAP.
Thanks.
I've already gone ahead and changed my gmail password.
Luckily I wiped recently and didn't have many things installed.
I'm terribly depressed about this situation.
My phone, twas a gift.
Thanks for the advice and help.
When I changed SIM in my Galaxy S, phone asked me to re-enter gmail credentials. Unfortunately your data is not encrypted, so the thief can see your SMS, Skype chats and other things (especially if the phone was rooted). Android really sucks in terms of security
There is a tracker and remote wipe built into the security settings of the SGS but it needs to be activated and set up. A little late for you now but maybe for the future or others. BTW it still works even if the sim is changed and you can use the gps (even if switched off) and Google maps to pinpoint it.
my phone was stolen to, well, they did wipe him just before I used my lookout. damn.
but I also advise you to change some passwords.. just incase.
mrsufgi said:
my phone was stolen to, well, they did wipe him just before I used my lookout. damn.
but I also advise you to change some passwords.. just incase.
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I use lookout as well - luckily haven't really had to use it yet.
There is an app called 'plan b' which you can install over the air from the market on android.Com/market, it allows you to track your phone but if the have cleared of then your most likely out of luck :/ your sd card will be fully accessible... hope you can manage to get it back
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Kops said:
I use lookout as well - luckily haven't really had to use it yet.
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Afaik that can be uninstalled rather easily. Anyways, it's not really stealthy.
If you really want a stealthy track, lock, and wipe solution try Theft Aware from the market (7 days free) or google it, can be used without root (but root offers better features). Cheaper than Lookout too as it's a one-time fee.
If they steal my phone I could simply wipe it (installed on /system so it survives the wipe), lock it, trace it, anything by simple SMS commands. So even if I couldn't get it back at least I can wipe all data.
Won't help the OP sadly but for others this may be useful.
In really sorry for this incident mate
First I assume that you've changed your google & any email password u have over your device.
Next thing, I want u to make a call to your carrier so they block ur device via restricting the imei.
I had this question in my mind so I added a thread previously.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893247
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Rycon said:
Afaik that can be uninstalled rather easily. Anyways, it's not really stealthy.
If you really want a stealthy track, lock, and wipe solution try Theft Aware from the market (7 days free) or google it, can be used without root (but root offers better features). Cheaper than Lookout too as it's a one-time fee.
If they steal my phone I could simply wipe it (installed on /system so it survives the wipe), lock it, trace it, anything by simple SMS commands. So even if I couldn't get it back at least I can wipe all data.
Won't help the OP sadly but for others this may be useful.
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Lookout is a free app. Also, it can be run in "hidden" mode, and you can chose to have it run silently, and only be uninstalled via web .
Hi all,
I have a strange issue with my Nexus 6. For background I am using 64GB model, sim unlocked, stock, not rooted, not OEM unlocked, v5.0.1.
I recently purchased the Nexus 6, restored my account and apps to it. So far so good. Next time I started up the phone, I noticed NFC had stopped working. Checking the Settings menu it had completely disappeared along with "Tap and Pay". I know they were there before but they had gone. I went back to the retailers who happily swapped it for another.
Nexus 6 #2 - EXACTLY the same thing happened. I could then only presume an app was somehow causing it. After uninstalling/installing loads of apps I finally figured it out - any "large" app being installed seems to kill NFC on reboot. I don't know exactly how "large" it needs to be but the offending apps are all over 1GB. Any one (I have three such apps) of those installed and NFC goes. Uninstall it, reboot and it's available again.
I can replicate it everytime and on two different devices. Can anyone else confirm/deny/test the above and advise? If it was a bug I would have thought there would be other reports but then >1GB apps are fairly unusual. I can also confirm it DOESN'T happen on my (unrooted, stock) Nexus 5 running v5.0.1.
Any thoughts or ideas greatlly appreciated
TIA!
Am I really he only person suffering from this on two different phones?
dawmdt said:
Am I really he only person suffering from this on two different phones?
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I have the CW 64 and i have a lot of games installed.
Some close to 4GB and my NFC works great, I pay with google wallet a lot.
My google play music is 15GB with the downloaded music from all access.
My guess is that one of your apps (possibly pre lollipop with no update ) are causing this.
Davzone said:
My guess is that one of your apps (possibly pre lollipop with no update ) are causing this.
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Top man, you solved it! I was working on the assumption that a user installed app couldn't interfere with a system service like this!
I used an Application Permission app to see which of my apps had access to NFC, and there were a couple of old ones that I don't even use any more. Uninstalled them, restarted the phone and all working perfectly now
dawmdt said:
Top man, you solved it! I was working on the assumption that a user installed app couldn't interfere with a system service like this!
I used an Application Permission app to see which of my apps had access to NFC, and there were a couple of old ones that I don't even use any more. Uninstalled them, restarted the phone and all working perfectly now
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Which apps specifically??
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I've only gone and fixed it!
IO don't know how or why, or which of these steps are unnecessary, but I will post EVERY step that I took, and the reason behind taking these steps was for the purpose of fixing secure fast unlock which seemed to be broken based on location, and I was attempting to fix it via bluetooth secure unlock, in the hope that fixing it via bluetooth would fix it via location too, and at the same time i was trying to figure out what was wrong with the NFC...
Settings, accessibility, turn all off (i had previously had pushbullet on, turn off_
install F secure app permissions, filter NFC, open every app that has NFC permissions
settings, security, smart lock, input pattern, trusted devices, add a newly paired bluetooth device (i used my laptop).
lock phone, unlock phone, to ensure that smart lock is working.
switch bluetooth off, lock, unlock to ensure that trusted location smart lock is working
settings, "more", turn aeroplane mode on. turn aeroplane mode off.
phone switched off, switched back on, askwd for pattern unlock before boot, upon boot NFC and android beam settings are restored in the "more" settings menu.
Please try it and confirm whether or not this is a valid fix
Did anybody try to encrypt the z3compact? Is the performance hit noticeable or negligible?
I'm very fought about encrypting my phone. Would I lose the smartlock feature?
Thanks in advance
I encrypted it, including SD card. There is no visible impact I would say. I think PIN and password is the only unlock option after encryption, the biggest drawback for me is that you can't manage it with Sony Companion after encryption (as Sony did not manage to implement support it seems).
PIN and password are the only options available after encryption and you'll probably lose smartlock.
In KK at least performance was about the same. Though it did reduce my battery life...
i9300usr said:
I was curious to know if this was true with Sony Bridge too (Mac app), and I found this thread on the Sony forums. The Sony mods there insist that this is a choice by Sony to maintain security. Apparently none of them have heard of encrypted backups (à la iPhones). So, possible this will never be implemented.
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It's not that important, ADB backups work and are more complete, only drawback is the time they take
i9300usr said:
I was curious to know if this was true with Sony Bridge too (Mac app), and I found this thread on the Sony forums. The Sony mods there insist that this is a choice by Sony to maintain security. Apparently none of them have heard of encrypted backups (à la iPhones). So, possible this will never be implemented.
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i9300usr said:
So, just to make sure I understand you correctly: ADB allows users to make backups of encrypted Sony Xperia phones? Are the backups encrypted or unencrypted? And is the restore process straightforward?
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Yes ADB allows you to make a full encrypted backup of your phone (including apps installation files). The restore process is straightforward as well but it's not as complete as say an iPhone backup. ADB might not be able to access some files, especially ADB might restore all your apps but not your launcher settings, folders, etc...
Even though the backup is encrypted, keep in mind that if you use a four digits code it can be bruteforced in less than 10s so encryption does not mean much in this regard.
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...Even though the backup is encrypted, keep in mind that if you use a four digits code it can be bruteforced in less than 10s so encryption does not mean much in this regard.
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This is interesting. Are you referring to a code ADB requires or the code used on the phone? I use a pattern on the phone.
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This is interesting. Are you referring to a code ADB requires or the code used on the phone? I use a pattern on the phone.
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If you encrypt your phone you cannot use the pattern anymore. The ADB password is the same as your phone password so either 4 digits or a real password.
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If you encrypt your phone you cannot use the pattern anymore. The ADB password is the same as your phone password so either 4 digits or a real password.
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I have my phone encrypted and use a pattern. I was not required to change it to a PIN when I encrypted it.
That's why I asked, I wonder how ABD would handle the pattern.
You can transfert files when the phone is mounted as mass storage and unlocked, that's why Sony isn't consistent. You can also transfert files using a third party ftp server like es file browser.
I encrypted my phone last week. Not really noticed any difference in terms of general performance and battery life. One thing I hate is that if you fail to enter the correct password 10 times your phone gets wiped. I hate this because it just makes it easy for people to troll you and makes a thief's job easier because your essentially getting your phone ready to be sold on and also locking yourself out so it can't be tracked.
Another negative is startup takes forever but, you don't really reboot phones much anyway
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Sounds like something I might actually use. Thanks for the feedback.
So, this is by default and can't be disabled by the user? Hmm, Apple's iOS at least makes the wipe optional.
So much this. Makes backing up your phone every day a necessity just in case. But then:
a) how many people are actually aware the wipe is mandatory for encrypted phones,
b) how many would be mean-spirited enough to actually do this,
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c) how can people tell if your phone's encrypted?
I think the likelihood is low, but I guess that depends on the company you keep. But if it's that kind of company, you're probably wise enough to keep the phone in your possession all the time anyway.
Unless you're running 5.1, and have enabled "Device Protection" - if Google have actually implemented it? Did the promised "kill switch" actually make it to our phones?
How useful is the tracking anyway? Do the Police even care? I've read articles where the owners themselves had to retrieve their phones, and that can be a very tricky prospect.
Yup, very infrequently these days.
Well, this is all better than the non-existent encryption on my S3.
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Sadly, no you can't disable the wipe after 10 failed attempts. Well I'm uni student and you know what some people are like when it comes to trolling! I don't think z3 compact has the device protection. Not mine anyway. The police should track it. Well I've heard they help here in the UK
I think it's better to go without encryption, root with locked bootloader and install Cerberus to system partition, and use a strong lock pattern or password.
No worries of 10 try wipes, more secure lockscreen options, and can still track the phone even after a factory reset (unless they reflash the entire system.)
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I think it's better to go without encryption, root with locked bootloader and install Cerberus to system partition, and use a strong lock pattern or password.
No worries of 10 try wipes, more secure lockscreen options, and can still track the phone even after a factory reset (unless they reflash the entire system.)
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I think there's a tendency to speak too lightly of rooting. It invalidates warranty, which is a big deal for a US$400–600 phone such as this. Even after the warranty expires, I think it places far too much responsibility on the user to solve any problems that may arise, which can be onerous if the phone actually serves a purpose (as opposed to being merely a prestige item, which I'm sure it frequently is).
Rooting is a nice concept, but it presents real-world problems that can entirely negate any benefits gained; it's not the panacea it purports to be.
I have encountered a two year (?) Android lock screen glitch on the 10 Pro. I enter the correct pin and it takes it as incorrect. Now, I am locked out for 24 hours at a time. There's no allowance for me to use face unlock or finger print unlock. Encountered the glitch shortly after coming back from a vacation where I have captured 150+ GB of media chronicling my family and I. I cannot afford to lose these pictures and videos so looking for any help in getting my data off/phone unlocked. OnePlus official tech support is horrible and Google has no support on this. It's pretty crappy so looking for a needle in the haystack. Been stuck for two months and a friend recommended this site!
Use a data recovery specialist that has worked with that brand before successfully. That's your best shot if really need the data.
I never use screen locks or set bios passwords, you see why now. You are the one most likely to be locked out sometimes through no fault of your own. Redundantly and regularly backup critical data. NEVER encrypt data drives.
Having expandable storage helps too if you use the SD card as an unencrypted data drive. I also use two 500gb OTG flashsticks for "dirty" backups, main backups are on hdds.
All you can do sometimes is to learn from your mistakes... and not repeat them.
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I have encountered a two year (?) Android lock screen glitch on the 10 Pro. I enter the correct pin and it takes it as incorrect. Now, I am locked out for 24 hours at a time. There's no allowance for me to use face unlock or finger print unlock. Encountered the glitch shortly after coming back from a vacation where I have captured 150+ GB of media chronicling my family and I. I cannot afford to lose these pictures and videos so looking for any help in getting my data off/phone unlocked. OnePlus official tech support is horrible and Google has no support on this. It's pretty crappy so looking for a needle in the haystack. Been stuck for two months and a friend recommended this site!
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Could maybe try resetting system, that'll leave your storage intact?
May be a Fastboot command to kill the kitchen but I'm not sure,, there used to be a file you can delete from twrp but we unfortunately don't have a custom recovery yet.
In future, install the mod I offered in another thread that allows unlimited Google photos backup..
Have you checked your Google photos to see if anything was backed up?
Google Photos
Google Photos is the home for all your photos and videos, automatically organized and easy to share.
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Hey Blackhawk and dladz. Thanks for the advice! Will attempt to find a data recovery specialist. Thanks for suggesting this as there seems to be some hope that data recovery is doable for a locked phone!
Unfortunately, nothing is backed up to Google photos. It happened just after my trip and I didn't get the chance to back up. Surely in the future,I will not use a password.
If I can't get the data off, is there any possible chance to file a lawsuit against Google?
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Hey Blackhawk and dladz. Thanks for the advice! Will attempt to find a data recovery specialist. Thanks for suggesting this as there seems to be some hope that data recovery is doable for a locked phone!
Unfortunately, nothing is backed up to Google photos. It happened just after my trip and I didn't get the chance to back up. Surely in the future,I will not use a password.
If I can't get the data off, is there any possible chance to file a lawsuit against Google?
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A lawsuit against Google? You'd have a hard time buddy...it'll be challenging to get the data from a locked phone..
What about connecting your phone to WiFi whilst it's locked and seeing if Google photos syncs and backs up?
Have you checked if photos has been syncing? It'll do it automatically if you've ever accessed and advised the app to back up automatically
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Hey Blackhawk and dladz. Thanks for the advice! Will attempt to find a data recovery specialist. Thanks for suggesting this as there seems to be some hope that data recovery is doable for a locked phone!
Unfortunately, nothing is backed up to Google photos. It happened just after my trip and I didn't get the chance to back up. Surely in the future,I will not use a password.
If I can't get the data off, is there any possible chance to file a lawsuit against Google?
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A OTG .5tb flashstick or two could have backed them up. Too much backup is a good thing.
Less Google is good. I use Gmail and that's it for anything that's cloud based.
try this https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/14/android-lock-screen-bypass-google-pixel/
op is fairly slow with security patches so you might be in luck
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try this https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/14/android-lock-screen-bypass-google-pixel/
op is fairly slow with security patches so you might be in luck
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That's clever...I like it
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A lawsuit against Google? You'd have a hard time buddy...it'll be challenging to get the data from a locked phone..
What about connecting your phone to WiFi whilst it's locked and seeing if Google photos syncs and backs up?
Have you checked if photos has been syncing? It'll do it automatically if you've ever accessed and advised the app to back up automatically
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Dang thanks for the advice. I thought it would be easy because the glitch is their fault and they haven't fixed it.
It's been connected to WiFi but nothing backed up
It doesn't even show up on find my phone
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A OTG .5tb flashstick or two could have backed them up. Too much backup is a good thing.
Less Google is good. I use Gmail and that's it for anything that's cloud based.
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Hopefully I can get back into my phone and use this advice. Thanks!
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try this https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/14/android-lock-screen-bypass-google-pixel/
op is fairly slow with security patches so you might be in luck
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How do I go about unlocking the SIM card? I've tried before but haven't found an option to do so.
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Dang thanks for the advice. I thought it would be easy because the glitch is their fault and they haven't fixed it.
It's been connected to WiFi but nothing backed up
It doesn't even show up on find my phone
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That's a shame man, when you do get it set up...install the Google photos mod I uploaded and you can back up with no limits..
Doesn't help this situation but food for thought.
The sim lock glitch is a great shout and can be accessed from any phone usually. May need to pop it in another.. there could be a default one so Google your current provider incase there's a default code.
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How do I go about unlocking the SIM card? I've tried before but haven't found an option to do so.
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phone lock and sim lock are two completely different things. you'll need a second phone and someone else's sim. you can use google to find out how.
try just popping out your sim, restart, and see if you can get in
Thanks for the help! The SIM card is already out (tried this at the beginning). So I'll do what you said about using someone else's sim! Will let you all know the results after work.
I have tried the SIM glitch, but alas it didn't unlock will have to try to find a specialist. Any programs that can unlock phones?
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That's a shame man, when you do get it set up...install the Google photos mod I uploaded and you can back up with no limits..
Doesn't help this situation but food for thought.
The sim lock glitch is a great shout and can be accessed from any phone usually. May need to pop it in another.. there could be a default one so Google your current provider incase there's a default code.
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Uploaded where? I don't see it...
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Uploaded where? I don't see it...
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It's in its thread called a
little gem
(mod) G-Photos -A little gem
Found this little gem. Pop it in magisk then install it. Check G-Photos after the reboot. Enjoy unlimited photos on your device. 👍🏻
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