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[Q] Smart Saving Bug - Anyone else seeing this?

Hello, guys. I am encountering what I think is a very weird bug with Smart Saver. I'm hoping that some other people can test this on their systems and if, it's just me, I'm going to return mine for a new unit.
With Smart Saving enabled, the screen will automatically increase and decrease brightness constantly as different pages and app's come up. In my case, the screen seems to flicker almost every time I swipe and I can't stand it, so I disabled Smart Saver. The icon is OFF on the pull down status panel and it's turned off under settings. However, whenever I reboot, I still encounter the screen flickering and dimming constantly (although it seems to be to a lesser degree). If I pull down the status panel, turn Smart Saving On and then off again, the problem goes away until I reboot the system. This is at least encouraging me that maybe it's just software and I can deal with it for a month or so.
Here's what I want someone else to test for me. Turn Smart Saver off. Turn the tablet off and then on again. Pull down the status menu and carefully watch the screen. The open portion of the home screen will dim once (which is normal). On my system, after about another 1/2 second or so, the screen will flicker or dim again slightly. It does this every time, but it might be hard to notice unless you are looking for it. When side scrolling between home screens, sometimes brightness will increase slightly and other times it will decrease. Pull down status panel, turn on smart saver, turn it off again and the problem goes away.
Help, please? Mine is a US model if that makes any difference on build 10.14.1.47.
Thank you very much in advance.

Did you download the used 10.14.1.47 manually from Asus website or was it an auto update from the device itself.
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Manually from the website.

I kinda have the same problem, though on my tab it is only the auto brightness that sometimes will increase/decreased constantly. Disabling Smart Saving or auto brightness helps in my case. I only have the problem when i'm in a room where there's light but the room isn't totally bright, and the tablet is with its back to the light source.

Others can correct me if I'm wrong but the 10.14.1.47 isn't being pushed through the device itself. I'm finding most people are downloading it manually from Asus website. . My estimation, I think Asus is aware that the update has some issues, thus not force updating it through the device until they come out with the latest fix.
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You might be right about the update. Although I was thinking more people should have this issue. Maybe they aren't rebooting their tablet often enough to notice it as once I enable/disable Smart Saver, the problem goes away until I reboot. That is a satisfactory work around, but I was hoping for confirmation from at least one other person seeing the same thing in terms of returning the device. Amazon has decent return terms, so I'll probably wait until the next update and see if that fixes it. Thanks.

I'm on .47 and I have the same issue as well. I also noticed that the brightness will increase 2-3 steps every time I bring up "settings". This is regardless of auto-brightness on/off, smart saving on/off, outdoor mode on/off.

Auto-brightness is useless: Usually it's much too dark, and the auto-setting is changing with strange behaviors.... it's kinda jumping up and down as other described...

Thanks, since others are experiencing it too, at least I'm hopeful that it will be fixed in a SW update.

Did someone contact the asus-hotline?

derekk1 said:
Thanks, since others are experiencing it too, at least I'm hopeful that it will be fixed in a SW update.
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Same thing here, bought the unit in the US and also experiencing the same awkward behavior. This would actually go away when Auto Brightness is turned off.
I am also getting issues when docked. Sometimes after some time (maybe a couple of hours) as soon as I tilt the tablet to its normal position, I would find it completely off. Had to turn the device back on a couple of times now.
These are too many annoyances for such an expensive unit.
Hope they fix the Auto Brightness setting at least.

Disabling Asus Splendid app in settings -> apps seems to stop this behavior.

vBoedefeld said:
Disabling Asus Splendid app in settings -> apps seems to stop this behavior.
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I am now on 4.3 and it seems to be better (just some hours). It is not as dark as before and doesn't hop up and down every second :good:

Yezariael said:
I am now on 4.3 and it seems to be better (just some hours). It is not as dark as before and doesn't hop up and down every second :good:
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How did you do the upgrade to 4.3? Seems like it is not yet available for the US. Would you install another SKU from TW lets say, if your tablet were from the US?
I really feel like upgrading cause there are too many things not working well on 4.2.2

efgyy said:
How did you do the upgrade to 4.3? Seems like it is not yet available for the US. Would you install another SKU from TW lets say, if your tablet were from the US?
I really feel like upgrading cause there are too many things not working well on 4.2.2
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In Switzerland it was OTA :good:
Either download right version from asus.com or wait a bit, I guess it will not take long until it's rolled out everywhere...

Yezariael said:
Auto-brightness is useless: Usually it's much too dark, and the auto-setting is changing with strange behaviors.... it's kinda jumping up and down as other described...
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I totally agree. It's much too dark on auto and the constant jumping around drives me bat$#! +. For a 4th Gen, nearly $500 tablet, you'd think this sort of thing would be figured out by now.

calimocho said:
I totally agree. It's much too dark on auto and the constant jumping around drives me bat$#! +. For a 4th Gen, nearly $500 tablet, you'd think this sort of thing would be figured out by now.
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You did not read my statement about update to 4.3, no?
It's very fine now, bright and constant :good:

Yezariael said:
You did not read my statement about update to 4.3, no?
It's very fine now, bright and constant :good:
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Mine is still the same after the 4.3 update. I can see whatever algorithm it is working. For example, switch to a dark screen, wait 2 seconds, watch it darken a little more once a second for the next three seconds. Then the reverse in switching to a mostly white screen/app.
The good news is the dock doesn't seem to disconnect anymore.
Just can't decide about this thing. I want to love it as much as I loved my TF101 but I just don't (yet?)

calimocho said:
Mine is still the same after the 4.3 update. I can see whatever algorithm it is working. For example, switch to a dark screen, wait 2 seconds, watch it darken a little more once a second for the next three seconds. Then the reverse in switching to a mostly white screen/app.
The good news is the dock doesn't seem to disconnect anymore.
Just can't decide about this thing. I want to love it as much as I loved my TF101 but I just don't (yet?)
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Theirs nothing wrong with your device. It's the ambient light sensor built into the device. ..
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Theirs nothing wrong with your device. It's the ambient light sensor built into the device. ..
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Absolutely. It's just really freaking annoying.
I have it right here in a bright office with fluorescent lights, which I would think would vastly marginalize the amount of light reflected from the display itself back into its ambient light sensor. Merely dropping down the notification column causes visible shifts darker (when coming from a light background) in steps, over several seconds. (and it's in the dock on the desk, so the device isn't moving at all)
So my argument is the algorithm used to determine the backlight of the screen puts to much weight on the white balance of the screen. It's distracting and annoying. And it would be one thing if this only happened on "Auto Brightness," which it does not.

Root and TWRP accomplished

So I just want to give a little status update with proof of what we have going so far. I am still trying to work out the bugs but I have managed to get root and TWRP on the Lg G Watch R (lenok) using much of the same files from Dory the original g watch because almost all the hardware is the same. All I had to do was open their recovery file and throw in our zImage and it booted, and I was actually quite surprised bahaha. And once we have TWRP we can flash anything we want, such as the SuperSU package from Chainfire which enables root for us. But because this is wear most of the rootey things will just allow us to access system files such as say the vibration motor. And I can tell the vibrataion motor on this device is weaker than it is capable of doing because on TWRP the thing's vibration was SUPER strong.
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subscribed - looks promising, well done

My next step will be to find a good vibration boost setting and implement it. I can tell it has a very capable vibration motor and can match the Pebble in strength and duration.

Great work! Looking forward to seeing what develops.

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So I just want to give a little status update with proof of what we have going so far. I am still trying to work out the bugs but I have managed to get root and TWRP on the Lg G Watch R (lenok) using much of the same files from Dory the original g watch because almost all the hardware is the same. All I had to do was open their recovery file and throw in our zImage and it booted, and I was actually quite surprised bahaha. And once we have TWRP we can flash anything we want, such as the SuperSU package from Chainfire which enables root for us. But because this is wear most of the rootey things will just allow us to access system files such as say the vibration motor. And I can tell the vibrataion motor on this device is weaker than it is capable of doing because on TWRP the thing's vibration was SUPER strong.
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Awesome work, did you tried to relock your bootloader and was you able to grab a complete dump/backup of the Device befor testing the recovery? Coz there is no factory image yet

bluedragon1982 said:
Awesome work, did you tried to relock your bootloader and was you able to grab a complete dump/backup of the Device befor testing the recovery? Coz there is no factory image yet
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We have stock boot, system and recovery already pulled. That's the bulk of a factory image. I don't plan to relock bootloader so I haven't tested that.

thanks for your work, tonu!
I'v seen that you are investigating various switches and tweaks - I was hoping you could look into the power-saving settings, maybe there is a way to solve the 2 minute bug

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thanks for your work, tonu!
I'v seen that you are investigating various switches and tweaks - I was hoping you could look into the power-saving settings, maybe there is a way to solve the 2 minute bug
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I thought the two minute "bug" was a feature to save battery and avoid screen burn. I will look into it but I think it lies in frameworks and I dont wanna go messing with them.
Maybe wear lollipop will change it.

tonu42 said:
I thought the two minute "bug" was a feature to save battery and avoid screen burn. I will look into it but I think it lies in frameworks and I dont wanna go messing with them.
Maybe wear lollipop will change it.
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It maybe save battery - but a watch that purposefully displays a wrong time I wouldn't call a feature - and if it is at least let me turn it off @google
and it actually should make burn-in worse as the same image is displayed for a longer time
finally, from what I've read, the other AW watches don't have this "feature"
I wouldn't ask you to mess with the frameworks, but maybe the problem arises from a wrongly set power-saving switch or somthing
And yes, I'm hoping that Lollipop will fix it but I wouldn't mind a fix if you are willing and interested to look into it
thanks and good luck!

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It maybe save battery - but a watch that purposefully displays a wrong time I wouldn't call a feature - and if it is at least let me turn it off @google
and it actually should make burn-in worse as the same image is displayed for a longer time
finally, from what I've read, the other AW watches don't have this "feature"
I wouldn't ask you to mess with the frameworks, but maybe the problem arises from a wrongly set power-saving switch or somthing
And yes, I'm hoping that Lollipop will fix it but I wouldn't mind a fix if you are willing and interested to look into it
thanks and good luck!
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I've found some things that might point me in the right directions, idk if it will work but you can try to turn off ambient burn in protection all together, while I really do not recommend this on an led display it might fix it. I would estimate after a year or so the burn in would be pretty visible and might affect colors.

tonu42 said:
I've found some things that might point me in the right directions, idk if it will work but you can try to turn off ambient burn in protection all together, while I really do not recommend this on an led display it might fix it. I would estimate after a year or so the burn in would be pretty visible and might affect colors.
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thanks, but I really wouldn't recommend doing that
besides, from what I can tell, the burn-in protection isn't the problem, as the watch face shifts around as it should, so the screen is redrawn, but the time is not updated simultaneously

2k4ever said:
thanks, but I really wouldn't recommend doing that
besides, from what I can tell, the burn-in protection isn't the problem, as the watch face shifts around as it should, so the screen is redrawn, but the time is not updated simultaneously
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Thinking about it its a really weird issue. The system knows the correct time because the ambient protection uses the current system time as a sort of random number generator, it takes the system time in milliseconds divides by 60000 and uses that as a variable to shift the screen. Now on the shift I dont know why they didnt make it change the drawn time..... too weird.

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Thinking about it its a really weird issue. The system knows the correct time because the ambient protection uses the current system time as a sort of random number generator, it takes the system time in milliseconds divides by 60000 and uses that as a variable to shift the screen. Now on the shift I dont know why they didnt make it change the drawn time..... too weird.
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simple: its a bug
one reason could be that the cpu gets throttled so much that the update doesn't get out
I'v noticed that sometimes the minute hand jumps two minutes, first one and than a second later the hand moves again
and to me it seems to build up: if not activated for extended periods, the time seems to fall further and further behind
Our watch has some extensive power-saving features - at least LG claims that power consumption falls to 10% when in always on mode
I suspect that that's too much, as the other AW watches don't seem to have this problem

@tonu42 hey mate! was randomly checking your tread and saw that you have the twrp gui offcenterd issue like the moto360 tread witch im currently fixing.
i quickly realize that theme should work on both the moto360 and LG G Watch R! So once if i get fix, both should benefit from it!
Moto360 TWRP tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/development/unofficial-twrp-2-8-1-0-moto-360-t2966750
More info what is currently fix and Need to be fixed (including pictures) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57573277&postcount=48
Fell free to add me on G+

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@tonu42 hey mate! was randomly checking your tread and saw that you have the twrp gui offcenterd issue like the moto360 tread witch im currently fixing.
i quickly realize that theme should work on both the moto360 and LG G Watch R! So once if i get fix, both should benefit from it!
Moto360 TWRP tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/development/unofficial-twrp-2-8-1-0-moto-360-t2966750
More info what is currently fix and Need to be fixed (including pictures) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57573277&postcount=48
Fell free to add me on G+
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Sounds good, I could figure out how to make it look nice on device but I just don't have the time. Full time student and work almost full time, not enough time in the day. Hopefully over the next week I plan to pump some other stuff out related the GWR.

tonu42 said:
Sounds good, I could figure out how to make it look nice on device but I just don't have the time. Full time student and work almost full time, not enough time in the day. Hopefully over the next week I plan to pump some other stuff out related the GWR.
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no worry man and nice to meet you by the way. im also im the same position ish but do have time but dont have job atm.

DANGER: Severe Burn-in on LCA44B

I don't know exactly what happened, but I think burn-in protection is NOT working on LCA44B. Since yesterday I've had Instaweather faces burn into my watch, and the Red face, which I've used intermittently for 9 months, has now burned into my screen in less than 12 hours of use. Screen brightness is less than 1, something is seriously messed up in the latest firmware. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Display is shifting, turns out LG is absolutely stupid, so know that THE RED WATCH FACE WILL BURN IN TO YOUR SCREEN. They added massive grey circles to the date and month icons, which burn in. Every tick mark now burns in as well. I have never experienced any issues with burn in over the 10 months I've owned it, and now it's been burned in twice in 2 days. Something is amiss with the latest update, so definitely monitor your watch for signs of burn in.
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I've been experiencing burn in even with the previous update

I've experienced burn with all my watch faces on this update, and have had issues with burn in ever since flashing the custom kernel to gain WiFI, with the issues persisting even after the burn in was fixed. Sometimes however I do notice the face moving as expected, so I am not sure what is causing the problem overall. If anybody has any ideas as to solutions to this, I'm sure a fair few people would be glad to hear them, as it isn't much fun seeing the hour icons when you're say in the settings menu.
Thanks,
x10man

I highly doubt this has something to do with the latest update.
1. I've had the red face burn into my watch before lollipop was on my watch even, just because the hour marks are too big to be properly shifted in ambient mode
2. I've observed my current watch face (FORM) and it seems to shift just normally

Do you guys happen to have Developer Options enabled? I tried enabling it today and just noticed that the option Force Burn-in Protection was disabled by default.
I don't know whether it was because of that option, the newest update, or just the fact that reading over this thread made me inspect my watch more carefully, but I now notice some burn in on my watch for the first time. It is quite apparent when the notification shade is pulled down.
My watch face also has very thin graphics and I even put a black transparent overlay on my watch face to make it even darker in ambient mode.
Edit: seems the burn-ins are only a temporary (at least for me). Left the screen off for a while and its good again.

I have developer options enabled, and enabling force protection disables again after a reboot. Burn ins are temporary for me too, but I'd still rather they didn't have them at all. I don't just experience burn in on the analogue faces such as red, I currently have a "9" burn onto my watch from 25 minutes of the "together" face and watches with very thin lines such as F04 for Round Wear also burn in, after very short periods of time. It is easy to get these to go again, however I'd prefer the burn in protection to work properly. I never had these issues on 5.0, they've only started since 5.1 for me, although I am not sure if that was 5.1 overall, or 5.1 after the custom kernel flash.
Thanks,
X10man

Forcing the burnin protection has no effect if you did not messed up the default burn-in protection files. The face will still shift no matter how the switch is being set.
If you will force the burnin protection settings file to not shift, then this switch will override that.
I have no burnin at all and I have the watch for almost a year now.

I don't have any problems with burn-in after update (or before). And I'm using Odyssey watchface red + disabled minimal ambient mode so according to everything I read here I should have huge burn-in. I have this watch over 6 months, 0 problems
this is how it looks also in ambient mode ( i have red color)
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timon12 said:
I don't have any problems with burn-in after update (or before). And I'm using Odyssey watchface red + disabled minimal ambient mode so according to everything I read here I should have huge burn-in. I have this watch over 6 months, 0 problems
this is how it looks also in ambient mode ( i have red color)
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Are you rooted etc? I'm wondering if any of the non-stock portions of my watch are causing this. I have TWRP installed, and my bootloader unlocked. It doesn't seem to make sense that some people have it and some do not, on the same watch faces et cetera. I'm not rooted, and have the stock ROM and kernel installed.
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X10man
EDIT: I have reflashed an entirely stock system, performed a factory reset and locked my bootloader, and I can verify my watch face is now moving. I will update further in regards to whether burn in is still an issue, or if this was a fix for me

I'm full stock, never rooted or anything and I have some burn in

x10man said:
Are you rooted etc? I'm wondering if any of the non-stock portions of my watch are causing this. I have TWRP installed, and my bootloader unlocked. It doesn't seem to make sense that some people have it and some do not, on the same watch faces et cetera. I'm not rooted, and have the stock ROM and kernel installed.
Thanks,
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EDIT: I have reflashed an entirely stock system, performed a factory reset and locked my bootloader, and I can verify my watch face is now moving. I will update further in regards to whether burn in is still an issue, or if this was a fix for me
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Now I'm on stock rom, kernel and recovery, with unlocked bootloader, not rooted. I had Leedroid rom but voice recognition wasn't working that good like on stock (dunno why). Before Leedroid I was on stock without any modifications so IMO software does not affect this burn-in thing. also I'm using 6 brightness all the time + screen always on

timon12 said:
I'm using 6 brightness all the time
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This is the perfect recipe for a nice burn-in. Of course it all depends on the colours used and the thickness of the lines involved ... but in general, max brightness on an OLED display means burn-in and shorter life.
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again, no burn in after many months I'm still using 6 brightness + screen always on.

timon12 said:
again, no burn in after many months I'm still using 6 brightness + screen always on.
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No burn in here either, had the same face for over 4 months at 3+ brightness and always screen on.

Received my Huawei P10 Plus today.

My girlfriend recieved the phone today. I've had a little playing around. The phones OS looks exactly like iPhone. The settings page for one. I've noticed the phone is a tad laggy compared to my pixel XL in doing normal actions such as navigating. The cameras quality is amazing and i love the camera app. I'm hoping lineageos comes out and we can get the original android os or at least have root and debloat the stock ROM. I'm happy to answer any questions for the ones that are deciding to get it.

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My girlfriend recieved the phone today. I've had a little playing around. The phones OS looks exactly like iPhone. The settings page for one. I've noticed the phone is a tad laggy compared to my pixel XL in doing normal actions such as navigating. The cameras quality is amazing and i love the camera app. I'm hoping lineageos comes out and we can get the original android os or at least have root and debloat the stock ROM. I'm happy to answer any questions for the ones that are deciding to get it.
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Yay! Finally someone in the forum has it!
My question is about camera's photo quality, in auto mode, with HDR set to auto. How's its colour accuracy compared to real life? For example the colour leaves and flowers.
And how's the battery life? I'm coming from samsung's s7edge, and I love it's battery life.
And the tad laggy you mentioned. It's negligible i suppose? I wonder what's causing it. 6gb of ram on board, can't be that bad.

Just got mine 2 hours ago......gorgeous device.

Finally! how do you find its battery standby? Have you experienced any severe drain? I've read in the p10 forum some users have some problems with battery drain.

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Finally! how do you find its battery standby? Have you experienced any severe drain? I've read in the p10 forum some users have some problems with battery drain.
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I've found with all Huawei phones with an 'Ultra' battery mode in Settings, I can considerably extend standby times.
For example, my P8 with only a 2700mAh battery, loses just 1-2% overnight on this mode. I can still send+receive calls & texts with this enabled, & alarms also work without issue, so enable this during the day as well whenever I won't be using the phone for ~10 mins or more.
The setting is easily & quickly accessible via the drop-down Shortcuts menu (please see enclosed pic from a P10 Plus).
Exiting this mode to full phone functionality is also very easy & quick from the home screen itself - just 1 sec on my friend's P10 Plus (while my P8 takes 3 secs).

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Finally! how do you find its battery standby? Have you experienced any severe drain? I've read in the p10 forum some users have some problems with battery drain.
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When my girlfriend switched it on, it had 50%, she did the initial setup and set the device to how she likes it and also played with settings. 4 hours later, the battery is 18%. There is an ultra battery saving setting that lowers the resolution when battery is low.
It is an amazing phone however as i stated, i think she'd enjoy it more if it was rooted and was able to mess around more.
The lag that i experienced could of just been the device overloaded, the setup was still downloading/instaling and she was messing around on the device.
Standby battery is good, we was able to uninstall/disable most of the bloatware but some you cannot, these take a bit to battery life.

XtraArrow said:
My girlfriend recieved the phone today. I've had a little playing around. The phones OS looks exactly like iPhone. The settings page for one. I've noticed the phone is a tad laggy compared to my pixel XL in doing normal actions such as navigating. The cameras quality is amazing and i love the camera app. I'm hoping lineageos comes out and we can get the original android os or at least have root and debloat the stock ROM. I'm happy to answer any questions for the ones that are deciding to get it.
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Scann69 said:
Just got mine 2 hours ago......gorgeous device.
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Please guys, make a post and upload some photos and experience in different situations. I really want this phone but i need to be secure because money u.u. Thanks and have a nice day!.

SebastianAlejandro said:
Please guys, make a post and upload some photos and experience in different situations. I really want this phone but i need to be secure because money u.u. Thanks and have a nice day!.
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Uhmm, this is my post lol? Anyway, what would you like to know about the phone?

The camera is very impressive. I can't stress how bright these have come out despite seeming much darker to the naked eye.
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I've found with all Huawei phones with an 'Ultra' battery mode in Settings, I can considerably extend standby times.
For example, my P8 with only a 2700mAh battery, loses just 1-2% overnight on this mode. I can still send+receive calls & texts with this enabled, & alarms also work without issue, so enable this during the day as well whenever I won't be using the phone for ~10 mins or more.
The setting is easily & quickly accessible via the drop-down Shortcuts menu (please see enclosed pic from a P10 Plus).
Exiting this mode to full phone functionality is also very easy & quick from the home screen itself - just 1 sec on my friend's P10 Plus (while my P8 takes 3 secs).
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Ah yes, i believe it works like stamina mode like on my Z3. But somehow I want to find out how much the battery drains normally without using the powersaving modes? The review sites hardly mentions anything about battery standby. And i'm kind of bothered by the idea that it would lose about 10-12% overnight like on the smaller P10.
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When my girlfriend switched it on, it had 50%, she did the initial setup and set the device to how she likes it and also played with settings. 4 hours later, the battery is 18%. There is an ultra battery saving setting that lowers the resolution when battery is low.
It is an amazing phone however as i stated, i think she'd enjoy it more if it was rooted and was able to mess around more.
The lag that i experienced could of just been the device overloaded, the setup was still downloading/instaling and she was messing around on the device.
Standby battery is good, we was able to uninstall/disable most of the bloatware but some you cannot, these take a bit to battery life.
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I think the usage time of this device is good enough for me. But somehow the battery drain that i heard of from some (2) reviewers and some users of the smaller P10 just makes me hesitate in buying the phone.
Yes, i really like how much control it gives you with the permissions even without root! And i really like the UI based on what i've seen in reviews.
Maybe it just needed time to adjust.
So how much did it drain overnight? Did you use any powersaving modes? Oh and how fast is the charging time?
(I apologize for asking a lot of questions. I just want to be sure that i won't have any regrets buying a phone since I plan in using this phone for a very long time.)

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Uhmm, this is my post lol? Anyway, what would you like to know about the phone?
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I'm sorry if I do not explain well, English is not my perfect language. I asked you and the other user to create a new post sharing photos and user experience with the camera in different conditions, like indoors, low light, etc. Thanks for answer.

SebastianAlejandro said:
I'm sorry if I do not explain well, English is not my perfect language. I asked you and the other user to create a new post sharing photos and user experience with the camera in different conditions, like indoors, low light, etc. Thanks for answer.
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Yeah, definitely interested in camera's capability. I would like to see how it performs under LED lightings and capturing colours of flowers and leaves under natural lights.
Thanks!

Can you upload a video of the notification light and its colours? Can you try with LIGHTFLOW app?
Where is the NFC, underneath the camera?

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My girlfriend recieved the phone today. I've had a little playing around. The phones OS looks exactly like iPhone. The settings page for one. I've noticed the phone is a tad laggy compared to my pixel XL in doing normal actions such as navigating. The cameras quality is amazing and i love the camera app. I'm hoping lineageos comes out and we can get the original android os or at least have root and debloat the stock ROM. I'm happy to answer any questions for the ones that are deciding to get it.
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I got mine too, use for a while, pretty good..but mine is China version, wonder how to flash the ROM myself??

Can you please share what colors are available for the LED notification?

roosta said:
Can you upload a video of the notification light and its colours? Can you try with LIGHTFLOW app?
Where is the NFC, underneath the camera?
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Hi, NFC si at the top of the phone.
Lightflow doesnt work me well on A7 on P9. On P10 + i dont have tested Lightflow. Now use LED Blinker PRO, that work well. Blue, Red, Yellow, Magenta, Green, White
Now i have problem with volume. Here its one settings for control ringtone volume and notification volume. I have two mp3 files with same gaine. If i set the ringer volume, is the volume of the notification too high and I can not change. If i set notification volume, ringer is too weak. Same problem have peoples on normal P10.

How many hours of screen do you get daily?

I do not know. Can I see tonight. Now i have 80 percent battery and 38min SOT. Phone disconnected from charger at 7*30 AM. For me, the main battery consumption is lot of background synchronization (IMAP push, Caldav calendar etc. ) In the evening (at 11 PM) after a day using the phone have 20 percent of the battery. 2 days for me are not real.

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Hi, NFC si at the top of the phone.
Lightflow doesnt work me well on A7 on P9. On P10 + i dont have tested Lightflow. Now use LED Blinker PRO, that work well. Blue, Red, Yellow, Magenta, Green, White
Now i have problem with volume. Here its one settings for control ringtone volume and notification volume. I have two mp3 files with same gaine. If i set the ringer volume, is the volume of the notification too high and I can not change. If i set notification volume, ringer is too weak. Same problem have peoples on normal P10.
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I have an issue with Volumes I think is a software issue, because I used two device due to dead pixel replacement.
The first the Notification Sound was terrible, when I set it up sound good, but when it was in action when the notification arrived OMG, terribe.
The second one fine with Notifications, now is the Alarm sound the same. All apps and Ringtones sounds good just the alarms ****, definitely not hardware issue but I have no idea how the software can show the same type of malfunction in Notification and Alarms.

xBenny said:
Hi, NFC si at the top of the phone.
Lightflow doesnt work me well on A7 on P9. On P10 + i dont have tested Lightflow. Now use LED Blinker PRO, that work well. Blue, Red, Yellow, Magenta, Green, White
Now i have problem with volume. Here its one settings for control ringtone volume and notification volume. I have two mp3 files with same gaine. If i set the ringer volume, is the volume of the notification too high and I can not change. If i set notification volume, ringer is too weak. Same problem have peoples on normal P10.
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Thank you for testing and replying.
Can you please try Lightflow on the P10 plus? Or, did you mean to say only LED BLINKER PRO works with the P10 Plus?

Killing optimizer, and continous alerts on BT headset

I bought a P30 a week ago, and two things drive me nuts. First of all the optimizer, which is obviously not artificially intelligent, since I have said countless times that I don't mind if Snapchat is using power. Without that I'd never hear from my daughter... Is there a way to stopp Optimizer completely, or at least block the alerts?
And talking about alerts, there's the standard alert sound coming every few minutes as long as I have my BT plugs (I'm using Sony WF-1000XM3's) connected. But there's never anything in the alert panel. I wonder if it can be because of another useless piece of [email protected] information, in English I am guessing it's called "Device connection - Active audio device" or something like that. I can click a wheel to the right in that and get a box that lets me choose between audio from the plugs and the device, but why should I? I can turn of the plugs to get the tragically bad sound from the vibrating screen!
So can anybody give me a tip about this? On my previous Samsung I'd just use a root function to fix it, but that's not as easy on this phone since it seems just about unrootable without a lot of extra hassle.

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I bought a P30 a week ago, and two things drive me nuts. First of all the optimizer, which is obviously not artificially intelligent, since I have said countless times that I don't mind if Snapchat is using power. Without that I'd never hear from my daughter... Is there a way to stopp Optimizer completely, or at least block the alerts?
And talking about alerts, there's the standard alert sound coming every few minutes as long as I have my BT plugs (I'm using Sony WF-1000XM3's) connected. But there's never anything in the alert panel. I wonder if it can be because of another useless piece of [email protected] information, in English I am guessing it's called "Device connection - Active audio device" or something like that. I can click a wheel to the right in that and get a box that lets me choose between audio from the plugs and the device, but why should I? I can turn of the plugs to get the tragically bad sound from the vibrating screen!
So can anybody give me a tip about this? On my previous Samsung I'd just use a root function to fix it, but that's not as easy on this phone since it seems just about unrootable without a lot of extra hassle.
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You can kill the power management completely (Power Genie) so that all apps run as intended, you do lose per app usage stats but that's all
https://dontkillmyapp.com/huawei
Not sure about the 2nd issue

Thanks! PowerGenie out of my phone and back in the lamp !

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Thanks! PowerGenie out of my phone and back in the lamp !
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Be gone evil genie

Yeah, all though to me this Genie is more like the one in "The Witcher" and less like Robin Williams...

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Yeah, all though to me this Genie is more like the one in "The Witcher" and less like Robin Williams...
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Yea, and when I disabled it, it made 0 difference to battery life, similar issue to you except with WhatsApp, would not give me any messages until I opened the app regardless of power settings

Good! The battery is so good compared to my old S9 anyway, and the charging time is so short, that I'll never have any problems with it.

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Good! The battery is so good compared to my old S9 anyway, and the charging time is so short, that I'll never have any problems with it.
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Made the same move from S9 > P30, battery life is extremely good compared although I miss the Samsung experience so am looking at the S20 Ultra now

That one's far too expensive. Not that I can't afford it, just that I can't justify it. The cheaper models have worse cameras then the P30, that's why I bought that for about half the price of a S20 Ultra. I'd rather buy another pair of ceiling speakers for my Atmos system! And I see hat you came from Samsung in your sig. Btw the latest software to the S20 was apparently so buggy they couldn't reivew the S20 in Norway!

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That one's far too expensive. Not that I can't afford it, just that I can't justify it. The cheaper models have worse cameras then the P30, that's why I bought that for about half the price of a S20 Ultra. I'd rather buy another pair of ceiling speakers for my Atmos system! And I see hat you came from Samsung in your sig. Btw the latest software to the S20 was apparently so buggy they couldn't reivew the S20 in Norway!
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Oh I have sigs disabled, I`ll have to remove it
The only reason I want the Ultra is the new 108MP sensor the others won't have, I have always gone for the standard model as the Pro/Plus models weren't worth the extra to me, bigger screen/battery and one extra lens wasn't enough for the extra cost, but I really enjoy photography which is also the reason I got this P30, few things missing vs the S9, like true 960fps slow mo, and I used to take a lot of shots of my dog running about, with the S9 they almost always came out sharp and clear, the P30 seems unable to take clear shots of moving objects, most pics come out blurred, also the RYYB sensor tinting everything yellow gets a bit tedious
It takes a great photo for scenery etc, low light is amazing so hopefully the Ultra can match / beat that

While EMUI doesn't give you the option to completely disable the persistent Device Connection Service notification when you have a Bluetooth audio device connected, I managed to create a workaround using Macrodroid:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This macro will be triggered whenever the Device Connection Service notification appears and will immediately dismiss the notification without letting it re-appear after whatever time limits EMUI usually sets. The result is a clean notification centre without this persistent banner getting in the way. If this doesn't work, change the trigger to Connectivity > Bluetooth Event > Device Connected > [your headphones here].