Whats your choice SD or MMC? - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

would your prefer a SD or a MMC? Why?
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MMC or SD
You can hardly buy MMC anymore. SD is basically the same thing, except some functionality is integrated that can assist in Digital Rights Management schemes. If you do not use the DRM functionality (by not buying any DRM controlled content), it won't do anything creepy behind your back, and it will basically be the same thing. If large enough MMCs would still be widely available and cheaper, they would be the preferred buy, I guess...

SD is much faster than MMC.

SD prices are coming down also. Look around. In the UK i found prices for a 256 MB SD card from 90 to 120 pounds!
I found a PNY card at watford electronics for 67 pounds inc vat and delivery. (savastore.com). Thats the cheapest i could find for a 256 Mb card. And its nice and fast too.

found prices for 256 down to 85 Euro's incl VAT (SanDisk)
DaneElec often cheaper than SanDisk, probably no difference in quality, but difficult to tell
There is also brandless stuff around

SLOW!
Be advised we found the Dane-Elec to be incredibly slow!
http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1115

MMC judging by whats on sale seems to be limited to 128mb. And seeing as a 256mb SD is around the 60 squid mark, there is no umming and arring.
Looks like MMC is about to die, unless the product line can be brought back to life. The must be something fundamental wrong with it. Why would developments stop?
Martin

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Help choosing a SD Memory card.

I was going to pick up a 128 meg SD module today, but am nor sure what brandname to get. Seems like Sandisk and Pny are the big ones at my local staples, and since they pricematch, I'll find it dirt cheap online. LOL
Recomendations?
There aren't huge differences. Sandisk is slow, Lexar is fast. Not sure about PNY. In normal use, I don't notice the speed difference. It's only visible when copying large files with the card inside my laptop's PCMCIA slot. I'd be comfortable with any of them.
I went over to Staples today and couldn't believe they had a Pny 256 SD for $69! I was only looking to get a 128 but couldn't pass up that price.
They had Sandisk 256 SD for $69 with a $15 mail in rebate, but I read nothing but bad things about Sandisk.
Might be a good idea to check out your locals Staples and see if they have any of the PNY 256's in stock.
I think the memory is probably manufactured by a few makers and then badged by the resellers, I have had cheap cards and expensive cards, the speed has never been a problem and I have never had a card fail. Maybe I have been lucky, but brand names have never really impressed on me the idea that they are a better quality product. Remember, it is you that has to bear the cost of all that expensive advertising for the big boys in business. :mrgreen:

What Memory should I use on Kaiser?

Hi guys, I am trying to buy a "SanDisk Mobile Premier 2GB Micro SD high speed", I believe it is fit for Kaiser, right?
Yep that'll work fine; be wary of buying on eBay as many tend to be fakes. Buy from a trusted reseller. I have got a 6GB for less than £40 delivered.
If your in the US, you can get great deals @ newegg.com
I purchased my 2gb microsd for 19.99, and 3 day ups is standard shipping.(costs like 3-5 dollars, on some cases its free shipping)
it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod
dunno where ive got this from but i think/heard/got the vibe that the kaiser can only support up to 8gb sdhc?
that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?
Slade8525 said:
it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod
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ditch iPod, you are so cool man
niccyk said:
ditch iPod, you are so cool man
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i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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Yes we all need a slim pocket...
By the way here comes a new question, I found that all micro SDHC are come with CLASS 2, that means 9mb/s on reading and 5mb/s on writing... a little bit slow? It that necessay to buy a MicroSD Ultra II ?
Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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up to 32 GB sd card in ATT Tilt
DLD
if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
Slade8525 said:
if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.
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yep, let's be normal to the speed
your really professional on this topic
RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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lol im aware of that, i'll just be happy to see the day i dont have to drag 14 lbs of PDA/MP3/PC crap around.
RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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And the ATT Tiltless.......
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6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.
jomo25 said:
6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.
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So you think by Christmas we'l be seeign 8gb micro SDHC cards? should i wait till then and put off geting a 6gb card?
niccyk said:
that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?
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Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)
the SDA SD Card Association has never quite said the 'maximum' size of a Micro SD; there is a theoretical maximum of 32 GB, hence the 'limit' at the moment, which IMO means merely a new 'type' of SD card in a year or two. as for hardware that reads them, there likely is a maximum size they can read.
Currently Samsung has an 8GB Micro SD in development, Kingston and Sandisk are sure to be right behind anyways. besides, its just a memory card; i have piles of 128MB Memory Stick Pro Duo's that i bought for my Sony S710a when it first came out, and 128MB was still a fairly sizeable card for a cell phone; now we're talking 6-8+ gigs...
ekw said:
Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)
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That's great advise, I used to play .AVI with TCPMP and it works fine but haven't try to increase the cache, due to my Vario I is limited by its memory

12 GB microSDHC cards out

It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.
leoni1980 said:
Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.
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Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.
tootallk2000 said:
Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.
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Www.play.com. It's a sandisk and comes with an sd card adaptor and a usb sdhc card reader. Ive tested my sdhc card in 3 different card adaptors from non-sdhc cards and they work fine anyway so you just need a microsdhc to minisd adaptor from ebay or elsewhere for the athena if you dont have one already....
Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.
eaglesteve said:
Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.
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You're right Eaglesteve, although in this instance I think i'll be a late adopter of 12gb cards. I can cope without that extra 4gb for now, 8 is more than enough for me now anyway!
16gb micro sdhc cards are about to be released too! Check out www.symbian-freak.com for the article
Already??
I thought they would come 4th quarter this year...
Nevermind,the article doesn't say a word about availabilty.
On the other hand,the pix are proof that those things are existing already...
i did the same with my psp and pro duo's. In 2005, the best you could get even a 1gb for was about 60 quid on ebay, and I got a 2gb from singapore for 85 quid. these days, only 2 and a bit years later, its about a tenner
Lol at electronics
Rory
eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Appreciate this...ordering now.
ltxda said:
Appreciate this...ordering now.
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Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?
eaglesteve said:
Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?
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Don't mind at all....i should get it a few days after March 10th. Just shoot me a reminder in case I forget.
For all those considering the 12gb micro sdhc cards, the 16gb cards will be released also in 2-3 weeks, with 32 GB models (rather incredibly) arriving in the next few months. Sandisk seem to be ahead of the mark here, and the whole 32gb Athena project could instantly be put on hold: why not take out the mircodrive altogether to save on batteries! it'll be superfast to stick all your films on a 32gb card with the supplied card adaptor and reader, so screw activesync/wm5torage.
32gb cards should work in any sdhc compatible device, since the manufacturer's given capacity for the device's card reader is invariably based on current size limitations. There is no reason why a 32gb card wouldn't work in an Athena so this could be quite a big step for the device, and mobile devices in general.
I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX
keithwwalker said:
I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX
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I think there a people out there who might still want to take their device apart to replace it with an ssd and risk bricking their device (and certainly shred their warranty) but i imagine most would prefer to use a card as the transfer speed of a card in a reader vs software transfer over activesync/wm5toerage file is huge.
By this time of the year, my warranty is already about to expire anyway. If there is well documentated instruction by a more hardware oriented poster, I'm willing to take the risk of opening it up.
I prefer to install all my program on a non-removeable storage, so that I can swap the removeable one in and out at will for even more storage.
Plus, I expect savings in battery life, access speed (SSD should be quite a bit faster than the microdrive, I expect), and reduced weight are all attractions. It would also certainly make Athena surpass X7510 in everyway other than the keyboard. Just imagine, we have larger storage and we still manage to keep all the nice hardware buttons.
That's half the fun is trumping HTC at their own game!
Imagine, when the 16gb 7510 hits the streets and some tech blogs instantly declares is obsolescent because someone has jammed a 32gb ssd into a 7500/7501.
Maybe then HTC will wake up and juice up the 75xx series to have great video performance, and other improvements.
Any update yet on the availability of these larger storage cards? I can't find any 12gb microSDHC for sale online apart from preorders. And if 16gb are only 3 weeks behind, I'll wait for those.
Thanks
Jon
Found some info here... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2281491,00.asp
In part, it says (re SanDisk):
Product-wise, the company made no major announcements at CTIA, but company reps did confirm to us that the previously announced 12GB microSD size will not be released. Instead, this summer the company is going to "jump to the next obvious size," which is 16GB.
Apparently the 12 giggers previously 'available' are all only pre-orders?
I've had a few cards where it would only let me write to half of the card and the other half was corrupt. I suggest every time you buy a flash mem card you write to the full amount right away to test it. Because sometimes you never get around to using the whole thing until way later and then is when you realize it's faulty. 12gig copy time will be insane.

32 gb memory card for htc hd2

as u see my title i am looking for a memory card for my htc hd2 . which type of do i need to buy it and also i want to buy class 6 where can i find it and it has to be approximetly 50-60 paund.
thanks...
you going to be looking about £100 for a start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640218
Indeed, expect £100, release in April, class isn't announced yet but I guess it will be 2 or 4 max.
So you should be looking for 2x16GB instead.
whats the use of 2x 16gb when theres only one microsd slot?
soulstice said:
whats the use of 2x 16gb when theres only one microsd slot?
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You swap em round
I'm looking for a 1tb card, I've got about £3 is that okay?
someone get me one! Bah HTC will have to fix this... etc etc
I have a 16GB Class 6 and find it helps keep every interaction on the HD2 snappy. I install all of my programs on the card and play large movie files (600mb-1.8GB).
Swapping between all these programs and movies and phone calls etc really flies. I originally tried a 2GB class 2 and a 4GB class 4 and found they were ok but not as responsive when you had lots going on.
So my choice was 8GB,16GB or 32GB class 6. The price hike between 16GB to 32GB was significant and the steps between the loweer capacities were quite close so I went for the highest capacity card I could afford.
If you look around you can get them at "reasonable" prices.
The added advantage of a class 6 is when I plug the card into my PC I can transfer large (movie) files quite quickly and the speed difference is more noticeable when doing this on lower class cards.
fards said:
I'm looking for a 1tb card, I've got about £3 is that okay?
someone get me one! Bah HTC will have to fix this... etc etc
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LOL £3??? is there a free one available?
actually i'm happy with my kingston 16gb class 10 card
was sceptic at first but it holds up to what they say min 10mb/s transfer
you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.
A|ex said:
you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.
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did they give you an estimate on when to receive those cards?
due in end of the month but will be mid next month i receive them
[url]http://www.mobymemory.com/products/SanDisk/Sandisk-32gb-Micro-SD-SDHC-PRE-ORDER.
32gig..... £95! what do you need that much memory for!?
Class 10 or 6
HELLO Friends
i would like to know whats the difference bet the class 6 or class 10 memory card?
& for 16GB card, what u prefere? (i mean which mark)
thanx a lot
fards
That is hilarious, I was laughing for ages! How true it is though.
WOW, why would you need so much pron on your mobile ? LOL.
i heard someone posting about pr0n?
where is it? are there girls in it?
<°(((<
set aside the childish remarks from members the same question could be asked about your hard disk in your machine, why do you have a hard disk larger than a few GB, why bother going 500GB, 1TB+ etc. The same answer applies to having a larger memory card, but for example TomTom maps of europe and america can be larger than 10GB alone, music collection can be large and some people like to use their phone as mobile storage instead of hotswapping usb pens.
I have filled up my 16gb memory cards with just that music (because i like to use my phone as a mp3 player) and the next step from 16 is 32.
DR_ASHK: The higher the class the faster the write speed but this also can be limited by the hardware / software.
A|ex said:
you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.
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Link to the retailer?
No link to supplier and hardly any of them have a web site etc, they are all based in HK Sham Shui Po, Golden Computer Arcade the only place to get good deals and contacts (also where a lot of people see new comp tech stuff out in the wild).

[Q] SD Cards

I have purchased (and returned) two defective 32 GB SD cards purchased off eBay. I am shopping for a replacement but I am concerned about the quality of products out there. I have looked at most cards offered and many cards do not match the same printing as shown on the manufactures website, or the manufactures website does not show that size and/or class is even available. I looked at Amazon and have the same concerns (most sales are not Amazon directly, but a sub vendor).
The defective cards I purchased worked partially but were plagued with data loss, even after re-formatting or partitioning.
It seems like the SanDisk Class 2 is the only thing that seems trustworthy, but I am worried that the slow transfer rate will affect watching video etc.
Any advice?
i had the same mentality and got the sandisk. the only other brand i was 'thinking' about was kingston. you just have to check the percentage of reviews on newegg, and not the total score. if there's 20% 1/5 star that's pretty indicative of bad QC. for example, the patriot 16gb class10. i don't mind paying for the speed, but reliability comes before everything.
i'm using the 8gb sandisk uSD and running 0.6.8 froyo SD off of it. loads everything and runs everything fine. i played avi's and rmvb's quite smoothly (~350mb each, not HD).
You have to be very careful with any SD cards from ebay. There are many that are bogus cards. Some vendors will take a 2G class-1 card, flash it to make it look like a 16G Class-10 card. Most people don't have the ability to for a disk test (use ATTO) or will use only a small portion of the flash for a while.
Any Amazon dealer that has been around for over a year and has good reviews should be safe. Still, I like Newegg for things like drives, flash, etc. Amazon just throws a drive in a box and lets it bang around. Newegg listened to their customers, and now packs disks well.
Also, living in New England (or for many West/East coast people), Newegg packages often come in 1-2 days! I've ordered a number of things in the morning, and had them delivered the next day (with standard free shipping).
Since I do worry about "is this a valid product", for things like any Microsoft software, I'll only order directly from Microsoft or Newegg.
I would avoid Ebay for purchasing SD cards.
That said, I've had good experiences using a:
1GB Kingston Class 4 microSD
8GB Kinston Class4 microSD
32GB Sandisk Class4 MicroSD
They have all worked for me.

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