Carkit / Navigation / Radio Mute - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

Hello friends.
Long time after planning to build my own Car Kit, at least i orderd yesterday an original Car Kit from O2.... :roll:
Not having received it, i´ve got some questions about it. ....
I´d like to connect a GPS mouse to it and will use my TomTom-Software with it.
Wiring the GPS should not be a problem since FVH did such great reverse Engineering... (Thanks a lot for it)
My Question is now about Radio Mute / Speaker output....
I´ve got 2 input Systems at my Radio. one for Telephone and one for NavigationSystem....
Where do i connect the car kit now? I think, i can do only once of it, or?
What will happen, when i use the mute-connector for phone on radio-side? Will it stop the Radio on every output of the Tomtom? Will it only mute the radio when a call comes in?
What are you´re experiences?
Glad about every answer....
Regards
Stefan

Come on guys....
Where are your answers?
I know there are some people using the Car KIt, and i think they use the Navigation function too....
So plz geave me some tips....
Regards
Stefan

Yes,
Also using the XDA carkit. I found the radio mute function very disappointing: it is triggered by a variety of events (screen tapping, navigation output, GSM basestation handover etc). Finally decided not to connect the radio mute to the car stereo.
If you have a line in port on your radio/cd, you can profit from good quality mp3 from the xda without using the mute cable. Also connect the carkit speaker, parallel to the line-in.

Radio mute
I have taken a closer look at how the radio mute works. It quiet easy, if what ever signal (beep, voice, music or what ever) is sent to the XDA speaker, it will trigger the mute signal.
The mute wire is pulled to either ground or VCC (i can´t remember which one, it´s been to long...) as long as there is audio output. When connecting it to my radio (Renault Laguna) I found it works the opposit to what you would expect: no signal--> no radio ; voice or telephone --> radio on.
SOlving this is easy, just get a small relay (make sure it power usage is low, specs can be found in the Carkit manual) and connect it to the mute signal. Use the switched contact to create an inverted signal.
Good luck,
Francois

@FVH
your wrote: 'The mute wire is pulled.....as long as there is audio output.'
The mute wire is also pulled as long the GPS Software of TOMTOM is active.
Any idea how to fix it?
THX
Marlboro

marlboro said:
@FVH
your wrote: 'The mute wire is pulled.....as long as there is audio output.'
The mute wire is also pulled as long the GPS Software of TOMTOM is active.
Any idea how to fix it?
THX
Marlboro
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In my case this isn´t so.
Mute turns on, when audio ouptut is from Tomtom or anything else. After this, it turns on Radio again.
Regards
Stefan

GPS Software of TomTom switches Mute
I also have the same problem:
As soon as the GPS Add-On of TomTom starts, Mute of the O2 Car Kit is switched and the radio keeps silent until the GPS Add-On is terminated.
Any idea how to solve this???
Thanx,
Charlie

Looks like a faulty carkit.
I do see the problems as described, mute works correctly, even when navigating.
MAYBE this is your problem:
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When I put the XDA in the cradle and the GPS is switched on it looks like that the amplifier is switched on. You can hear this by listening to the noise that produced. It sounds a lot like RS-232 interferance.
I solved this by pressing the RED phone switch once or twice until you hear a beep comming from the XDA. This first legitemate sound correctly mutes the amplifier and from that moment on the carkit works like it should.
Try it and let me know,
francois

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mute on car kit

Does anyone know how to make mute radio from XDA.
In the connector I have not found any signal to mute the radio.
I have not any idea, how to do in the car kit.
Problem is, when I listen some radio station and somebody call me, I need to turn off the radio automaticly when I pick up the phone or when I dialing, like in real car kit.
Is in the XDA some signal to do it, or just car kit for XDA check input audio signal from the connector and when it will be some sound automaticly mute the radio?
Thanks for help.
xda mute
Hi,
I am interested too. Who knows more about this?
Meindert

BT connect to headset with GPS

Just wonder if Niki can support to have BT connection to A2DP BT Headset while using BT GPS receiver for GPS....
yes it works, although not stable when calling.
you may have to restart the bt headset a2dp. after conecting the bt gps antenna.
erkv said:
yes it works, although not stable when calling.
you may have to restart the bt headset a2dp. after conecting the bt gps antenna.
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Do you mean that while i'm using the BT connected to GPS receiver and navigating... all the sudden a call came in... i can use the BT headset to answer the call... and the GPS will still able to track and navigating?
ZhenMing said:
Do you mean that while i'm using the BT connected to GPS receiver and navigating... all the sudden a call came in... i can use the BT headset to answer the call... and the GPS will still able to track and navigating?
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Thats right - at least with the sony headset and tomtom set I use. Both work well all the time
Here it works fine a Logitech bluetooth stereo headset with mic and TomTom with a keomo 16 ch gps receiver, when your call is ended it activates the mediaplayer by itself, only sh*ty thing is that the logitech headset so now and then isnt receiving 100% , but its a almost perfect combination.....
Mine works fine, either with the Moto HS820 or the A2DP Jabras. However I wouldn't ever recommend using A2DP phones whilst driving - it cab be dangerous.
Your normal one-ear devices don't tend to stop you from hearing external noises, which can be essential for safety whilst driving.
that's true... having a2dp headphone in the car is dangerous... but if it's using the normal headset with the GPS that will be great!!!!
since in spain it is forbidden to use headsets while driving, either a2dp or calls, i use a parrot mk6100 w a2dp.
when using the a2dp thru my car stereo i can connect my gps bt antenna.
when the call comes everything works fine.
but, it gets some time to go back after the call (navigator + a2dp). and it is not that smooth. it seems like that is pushing too hard to the limits of the niki.
i read the answer is to restart the conection w the a2dp.
btw, i dont have installed the voices in the navigator so the navigator doesnt interfere w the a2dp.
i can keep trying if you have some other issues.
gps antenna issue blue tooth
hi,
I just boot a niki100, with orange provider in frence. i'm tryng to use a bluetouth gps antena.
both equipement are copled but when i'm launching the navigor the gps peripheric is shown bu the niki only durong approximatively 10 seconds.
I checked all configurable possible, including the verification of the alimentation rule.
i tried si antenna with anothet pda, it is working well. all tests were done without success.
someone could help me?
thank you.
try google maps
or other navigation software
should work
and check the ports btw, just in case.
sometimes they are paired but, not using the right ports may cause some problems.
#2 10-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Marcos Paolo
Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 9
bluetoouth GPs antenna issue
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I tried the antenna with another pda, it is working well. all tests were done with success. I don't understand whynot with the niki.
I did a complementary test, I tried the niki with another gps antenna and it is working well too.
I conclud about a compability issue between my antenna and the niki. maybe due to the bluetooth version.
is it existing a .cab to update the bluetooth driver?
thank you.
not found yet
but keep posting, i am interested too.
any news?
after to have tried many rom and radio version, i finished to buy a new antenna bluetouth v2.
the newone is working. i will sale the oldone to someboday having older phone.
I use a gear4 blueye (can get one for about £20ish on ebay including postage) at the same time as using gps (a holux gpslim 240 with tomtom) in the car.
Plug it into the car stereo and can now listen to ipod music, change tracks, volume & pause+play the ipod safely.
And also make calls by tapping the button and using phone's voice dial, this further pauses any music I'm listening to whilst in call and resumes at the end of the call. It really is a super little device!
ps. if people are having any interface issues: slow hanging up etc.. after calls, then it's worth disabling whatever phone skin you have using 'Advanced Configuration'. The default skin plays much nicer with bluetooth.

TomTom7 and Car Holder -No Sound!!?

Hi all!
I have TomTom7 installed which is working fine (almost).
When I place my Diamond in the car holder (three way output w. USB-Charge/USB-Headphones/3,5mm Headphone) all sounds from my phone are muted (believed to be connected to a headphone I guess).
I could connect the phone to the car audio system via a 3,5 mm audio plug, but then I cannot listen to the radio at the same time as navigating with TomTom.
Is there any known way to solve this so the TomTom7 directions and warnings are always routed through the Diamond internal speaker?
groover71 said:
Hi all!
I have TomTom7 installed which is working fine (almost).
When I place my Diamond in the car holder (three way output w. USB-Charge/USB-Headphones/3,5mm Headphone) all sounds from my phone are muted (believed to be connected to a headphone I guess).
I could connect the phone to the car audio system via a 3,5 mm audio plug, but then I cannot listen to the radio at the same time as navigating with TomTom.
Is there any known way to solve this so the TomTom7 directions and warnings are always routed through the Diamond internal speaker?
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i have this carholder too, it's from brodit right? It's true, the moment you plug in the diamond it thinks it's connected to a headset, so no sound from internal speaker. Ideal for listening to music when connected to your car stereo ofcourse, but when receiving a call you have to take out the diamond, because the sound goes through the car speakers (if the output is connected to your car stereo ofcourse) but you can't talk back because diamonds mic is also muted! I hope there is a way to solve this. Maybe a little program that allows you to direct sound and mic settings?
It's also a similar problem with the little USB to 3.5mm audio adapters, they make the diamond think there is a mic plugged in when there isn't and when someone calls you while you're listening to music, they cant hear you unless you unplug the headphones.
I've also noticed that when the diamond is in my car and connected to my bluetooth kit, the calls come via bluetooth but TomTom does not, this particularly annoys me, as when I'm listening to loud music I miss the speed camera alerts and also obviously cant hear the voice directions.
There seem to be some fairly serious shortcomings in this area. A simple set of options that let the user choose what he/she likes would be best.
Yepp Glenner, it is a Brodit car holder!
A program to solve this as you mention would be great!
Anyone got the skills to solve this?
Yesterday driving home from my work I noticed that the ring tone on an incoming call was heard even when the phone was placed in the holder...
So there must be a way to have the sound re-directed to the internal speaker???
Solved!
Try this little program http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-btmusic.html It sends audio from you diamond to either BT headphone or speaker. Just tried it and seems to work fine, but does need .netCF 2.
Best of luck!
Hi, this BT music doesn't seem to work with my car kit... My car kit supports HFP profile (Handsfree profile)...
What did you do exactly to make it work?
eadon said:
Try this little program http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-btmusic.html It sends audio from you diamond to either BT headphone or speaker. Just tried it and seems to work fine, but does need .netCF 2.
Best of luck!
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if you rename btmusic.exe.config (not btmusic.exe!!) you can run it too with .NET CF 3.5
Trick i learned from the developer of BTMusic.
xavalon said:
if you rename btmusic.exe.config (not btmusic.exe!!) you can run it too with .NET CF 3.5
Trick i learned from the developer of BTMusic.
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Rename to what?
I figured it out. Renaming btmusic.exe.config to btmusic.exe.configx does it.

Bluetooth car kit is disconnecting while using internal GPS

Hello all,
Have searched forum but not found exactly my problem.
I'm running ASerg Rus v.24 ROM on my O2 XDA Diamond and I have Parrot CK3000 bluetooth car kit. Gadgets work together flawless as they should unless I use any GPS software. When I'm running any software using GPS (e.g. Navitel Navigator or PocketGForce), on incoming call the carkit rings, but when I push button on carkit to answer, it makes "bleep" sound indicating that it lost connection to Diamond, and the sound goes to handset, not thru carkit. It is obviuos that I can't hear anything and speak to handset pinned to car dashboard. I just have to say aloud to the caller that I have some problems and I will call back in few minutes... It is very annoying that I can't talk while GPS'ing.
Anybody else experienced problems like this? Any solution?
Do you get your sat nav directions through the handsfree when in use? If so how? Usually that means that the Parrot is using A2DP BT profile and not the handsfree profile, but I do not think the CK3000 supports A2DP. Have you tweaked in some way the phone or added an app so that the sat nav uses the handsfree profile? I did using BTMusic app. If you have it may have something to do with the settings on that.
No, navigation software speaks thru phone's loudspeaker, not thru car kit over BT. And PocketGForce I've mentioned above does not speak at all since it is a measurement application using GPS only for getting current speed.
I don't know, maybe I have to play with different radio versions?

Blutooth and Radio. HELP!!

I am the happy owner of a HTC Topaz.
I ride a motorbike, and have recently bought a bluetooth crash helmet with built in speakers / mic which works a treat for answering and making calls and also for listening to TomTom navigation instructions from my HTC Topaz.
However, I have yet found a solution to allow me to listen to the built in radio via bluetooth. Because HTC requires the plug-in headset to act as an antena the radio doesnt work without it.
However when I plug in the headset, i get instant radio reception but then the sound is routed to the plug-in headset , rather thean the bluetooth speakers.
My logic tells me that there must be some way to use the plug in headset as ONLY an antena allowing the sound to be routed by deafault to the bluetooth headset. Surely this is software driven?
I am not a software Guru, but keen to learn and frustrated that there doesnt seem to be a yet obvious solution to this problem.
Any help would be appreciated.
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