O2 XDA Thumbpad Silver /Alu - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

Hi is their a silver XDA Thumbpad avaliable on the market or third party?

Not sure about silver, but I have the black one and it's quite nice (good key-feel etc), but totally unusable becuase of simple bad design. An extra row of 'special function' (read: semi-useless) keys should be put somewhere out of the way, not between the spacebar and the zxcvbnm row.
As a suitable punishment, whoever designed the layout of these keys should be bodily attached with extra-strength superglue to the person at Compaq who decided to ship keyboards with the space bar split into two, one half working as a backspace key.

hahaha
I couldn't agree more!
I have a black one, and it is certainly slower to use than most thumb keyboards I've had in the past, partly because of those 'special keys' being in a daft spot.
..that coupled with the fact my 'Fn' (like a shift) keeps getting flipped on when I type fast, and sometimes won't turn off until I reset my XDA, since the keyboard driver 'goes to lunch'. Anyone else seen this? (my driver is G3B0 v1.28 build 1127)
..lance

hes on about the silver round 5 way button guys not a clip on keybaord!

Oh, in that case, no idea!
Anybody looked into customising this little round widget?
It would be nice to be able to replace it with a homebrew one that was actually ergonomic. I.e. good for games

Can some one post some pictures of the Thumbpad connected with the O2 XDA i need to see how it looks like before i purchase :idea:

anyone want to sell me a thumbpad?
even after all the bad reviews of the thumbpads, I still would mind trying one out. (if they work with the XDA2, different body shape to the XDA1??) I know I'll probably regret the purchase like everyone else but is anyone wanting to offload a thumbpad cheap? incidentally I bought a Pocket Top IR keyboard but apparently there isn't a driver for the XDA2.
Cheers

I love the XDA II Thumb Keyboard, it's awesome!
-arebelspy

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Clip On Stand for Apple Bluetooth Keyboard

Hello all... I'm new to this forum but have found it quite helpful in my quest to optimize and get every bit of juice out of my HD2. I have looked through so many posts trying to find information on stands as I have just purchased my apple bluetooth keyboard for use as a note taking device at school. I was going to buy another eeepc after I sold mine, but realized that with the keyboard this baby is actually quite powerful enough to be a baby computer at school. A lot of the stands seem really cool but I was wondering if anyone had found or figured out a way to modify a stand that could securely clip onto the space at the top of the apple keyboard.
Attached is a link to an image of the keyboard to give you an idea of what I'm working with. Seems the space at the top is about an inch. As I can't seem to find one I can buy yet, I've been trying to think of ways I could create a clip on from one of the stands like the smart stand but thought I'd throw this out to you guys for some ideas as I'm not getting very far. Sorry if this has been covered before, but I did do a lot of searching and didn't seem to find anything like this in particular so thought I'd post.
And, btw, I'm Elle. Nice to meet you guys.
Cool idea...let us know if you figure something out.
The whole concept just sounds strange to me. Using a small phone with a massive keyboard just to do some notes. Granted both devices are beautiful but working them both together, er no.
However each to their own and all. I can't think of a way to attach them together which wouldn't inherently ruin either the phone or keyoard but what I'd do if I was so inclined to use them both together, would be maybe buy the extended battery with kickstand and then use it like the image below (obviously you wouldn't need to lean your phone against the wall with the kickstand ).
I fail to see why the HD2 needs to be attached to the keyboard in the first place .
Update - my girlfriend has suggested you just use a bit of blu-tac lol.
That's what I've been doing, just without an appropriate stand but a self-created one. It's actually a rather cool setup; this is the smaller version of the keyboard and it decreases the weight I carry around immensely. The keyboard syncs wonderfully, I just thought it might be cool if there was a way to attach it to the keyboard. I'll let you guys know if I figure anything out specifically, there seems to be some interesting ways to manufacture a simple clip on that I'm figuring out the details for at the moment.
Did you ever figure out a simple stand? I just bought one of these keyboards. and it paired perfectly and all the keys work, except the specialized function keys.
Compared to other available bluetooth keyboards (Stowaway, Freedom, etc.), this one is probably overall less space (by volume) and lighter.
Cheers
Capdase stand
hi. Just to let you know that this stand actually works.
Alright, ignoring the iPhone (it sux anyways. ), the translucent stand thats holding the phone actually fits the hd2. Not only that, I have the silicon casing around the hd2 and the stand still fits! Of course, it stretches as the iphone is of a smaller width. How do i know? I tested my bro's stand and it has been with me since. Lets just say that the holder was no longer meant for the iphone due to the bigger hd2. I.e. Its mine!
P.s It goes horizontal and vertical.
There's a couple of threads on make-your-own stands My favourite is the credit-card one, which you then fold out whenever you need it. Keep it in your wallet/as part of your phone case and you're there!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603363
iPhone stand
CCheck out this one: w w w. northsecure. com/iphone-stand/ (remove spaces)
Old thread, but anyway the extended battery with it's kickstand would do this amazingly

External Keyboard

Hey Guys check this out:
http://dillyeo.com/mini-bluetooth-wireless-keyboard?___SID=U
Rick
HD2's Dimensions:
120.5 x 67 x 11 mm
Keyboard's Dimensions:
115 x 60 x 7 mm
Hmmm, that's pretty tempting. If somebody made a case that would hold both without adding alot more bulk, I'd be sold.
Or in Silver:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/mini-bluetooth-keyboard-for-smartphones/
Nice find I may have to jump on that one.
Are those two products the same, only a different color?
They look different to me.
If anyone here has tried one, and could review it, please do so.
Freedom Input also had a small BT thumboard like that, which you can see at:
http://www.freedominput.com/technical-support/technical-support/slim-keypad
However, it is now only listed under tech support, not under products, so it may have been discontinued. They still may be available at some places, however. I think more expensive though, than the two listed earlier in this thread.
I really would like to hear how those have worked for people.
Of course, that kind of very small phone size thumb boards do not cover the whole subject of external BT keyboards. More common are the full-size fold-up BT keyboards. Not for a shirt or pants pocket, but can fit in a coat pocket. Also not to use holding in your hand, but to fold out on a table. So, completely different usage--but is like typing on a normal computer keyboard. Freedom Input makes a couple models of those. Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo) brand had a couple different models (now discontinued, but probably still avaialble), HP used to make one, I think there are others as welll.
However, I'm interested in finding out about those small thumb boards now. I have an HD2 on the way, and am not used to all-touch. Until I get used to touch screen typing, I might like to have a physical keyboard as well. (I already have the large size fold-up BT keyboard, but I think the small pocketable thumb board type could come in handy, if they are any good.)
If anyone here could review any of those, I would appreciate it.
I found one review of the Chinavision product here on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704310
Not very encouraging.
Anyone else?
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PS Found another thread on XDA, with more reviews of it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6819244&posted=1
Sounds kind of iffy, especially if ordering from China and hard to return. Even at $25, I wouldn't want to throw that money away. If possible to order from here, with full refund if unhappy with it, possible.
Haven't yet seen reviews of the first one mentioned, dilyeo (?) ? Anyone?
One thing I don't see mentioned, that I think would be important, a necessity. An on-off key, that would not turn on by accident, in one's pocket. For one thing, not to use up the battery too quick, but also, if in your pocket, turned on, no case, it could be inputting characters in your phone, that you don't want.
For that matter, even with an on-off switch, some kind of hard flip cover sure would be nice, to protect the keyboard when in the pocket.
Look at the following page at brando.com:
http://usb.brando.com/usb-keyboard_c034d015
They offer more different kinds of those small bt thumbboards, than I have ever seen. Of course, the question still is--are they any good? They even have some with touchpads (such as on a laptop, to function as a mouse), etc.
This one looks a lot like the chinavision one mentioned, perhaps it is the same, perhaps not: http://usb.brando.com/slim-bluetooth-keyboard_p01591c034d015.html
another similar one: http://usb.brando.com/mini-plam-size-bluetooth-keyboard_p01651c034d015.html
"Plam-sized", eh?
This one looks interesting, it does have a flip cover:
http://usb.brando.com/palm-size-bluetooth-keyboard_p01307c034d015.html
Brando is in Hong Kong though, so again, difficult to return. Anyone ordered from them? Anyone tried any of these keyboards?
Anyone here tried one of these small pocketable handheld BT keyboards?
If so, your review?
I have the Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo} Key board & mouse that that I purchase years ago for my dell axim51v which work great .It work on the palmtreo I think work on wing . I figure it work Htc D2 which I had since April . But bad news I get error mes. problem with blue thooth version .So be careful if you purchase make sure it compatable.I have not pusue any other options except zagg stylus. I would sure love to use the mouse and key board.
I'm using the Apple BT keyboard, works great except the arrow keys have some issues. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC184LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA1Mg&mco=MTMzNzg5MDM
Price is pretty decent too. Don't know if the trackpad they sell would work but from my experience with mice I'd say not.
wealthmade said:
I have the Stowaway (Think Outside, later Igo} Key board & mouse that that I purchase years ago for my dell axim51v which work great .It work on the palmtreo I think work on wing . I figure it work Htc D2 which I had since April . But bad news I get error mes. problem with blue thooth version .So be careful if you purchase make sure it compatable.I have not pusue any other options except zagg stylus. I would sure love to use the mouse and key board.
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The Stowaway BT Keyboard works just fine with the HD2. I have one. You don't need the Stowaway drivers, it works fine with the HD2 HID service.
But yes, the Stowaway mouse does not work on the HD2.
In any case, this thread is not primarily about the large fold-up full size keyboards like the Stowaway. If you read the previous posts, it is mostly a discussion of the small palm-sized BT keyboards (or thumbboards).

[Q] Stylus Pen

Has anyone tried a stylus pen on the SGT? Was thinking about getting the DAGi stylus for my tab but before I did I wanted to know if anyone had any advice to give based on past experiences.
Regards,
Tyler
Boxwave!
I picked up a black Boxwave IPad 'Styra' (pen one end and stylus the other). I find it very accurate. Also tried a Pogo but found it pretty poor (too squishy and kind of fuzzy tip). If you search forvreviews youwill find heaps. All I need now is a decent handwriting recognition app. Tried several in the market and not impressed.
hey buddy i ordered a Dagi, ill recieve it in about a week. i liked the perciseness of it. so ill keep u posted how it is once i get it
Get the red dot pen by HTC. That's what I recommend, anyway. It's extremely precise. Just search google for "red dot stylus htc".
Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
What like how the htc flyer notes app works? That uses specilist hardware so it wont work on the tab
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Hi all HTC did NOT make the pen for the flyer it was n-trig take a look at there web site just Google n-trig
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The screen for GT is supplied by Atmel and through web there was an interview with Atmel's product marketing Binay Bajaj saying
"There's something called "palm rejection." We support that. And unintended touches, which you can reject. We call it "grip," touching the screen from the side. We have something called "grip suppression." In spite of the grip, you can still use the device."
So I was hoping that the hardware for GT already supports it, but there is no software out in the market utilizing this feature yet.. unless I missed it. And yes, flyer's digitizer is supplied by n-trig and thats a different matter.
vToq said:
Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
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so the palm rejection isn't just automatic on the tab at all times? it has to be supported in specific apps?
that woudl suck if that's true. I figured it was just like that all the time.
either way we need some useful handwriting or other custom writing (jot?) style apps for the tab/android. otherwise a stylus is sort of an inconvenient gimmick, isn't it?
is it all the same type of stylus head in the market? from the after market product of stylus? i tried once but it feels of lag of motion, this an eraser head type (flat on the surface)
I got the "just mobile AluPen". Rounded eraser head type, but glides very easily. I got it for highlighting in PDFs.
Works quite ok. But not as well as my finger!
When you use it for Swype, the trace on the letters looks okay, but the recognition is way worse than with the finger. And you have to press a bit to get a good trace.
Stopped using it.
I got targus tablet stylus pen for 11€ including shipping.
It works okay, but its not as useful as I thought, finger is still working better, one has to press to hard and capacititve styluses aren't accurate enough.
Fingers are better...
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Rayan McFly said:
Fingers are better...
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sure they are, but even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions.
even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions
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Capacitive screens are rubbish at low temps, question: do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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PBL1 said:
do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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If you have capacitive stylus then they work with gloves you don't need direct skin contact.
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose.
http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose
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Tanks, I just order one from Amazon, I was going to buy an Trent battery pack anyway so I added the pogo to my trolley too
Regards
P

Best on the go keyboard case duo

I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??
Khomo Keyboard Case
Royal2000H said:
Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Royal2000H said:
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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hphp67 said:
Komodo Rogue;36292779
[.. said:
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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Komodo Rogue said:
I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
tct08 said:
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
CazeW said:
Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
Icyman said:
I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
c-f-g said:
How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.

Elecom Bluetooth full sized folding keyboard

Particularly the TK-FBP018. Any of the other models typically wont be able to pair with Android due to Apple's craptastic Bluetooth certification practices. If you grab one of these off of ebay, make sure you message the seller ahead of time and confirm the model number, I've screwed myself over once by receiving the iOS only version already. You can find them for around $130 USD.
http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/full-keyboard/tk-fbp018/index.asp
Generally the keyboard works great. The key button hinge design is taken after Thinkpads (which I love). The keys are about the same size as a normal sized laptop keyboard, and for the most part nothing feels cramped. The thing folds down pretty small (only a little bigger than the Note's footprint). Haven't really used it enough yet to drain the batteries.
The built in detachable phone stand is really only made for phone sized phones. I can stand up my Note II on it on it's highest angle but if I need to touch the device the whole thing will topple over if I don't take the care to actually hold the thing still.
Gripes:
* Can't really use it on anything other than a flat surface. There's a "lock" bar that tries to provide a way to prevent the thing from folding up, but it still feels flimsy in my lap.
* My pinky mixes up the directional up arrow key for the right shift key. I've gone through and switched the keys with External Keyboard Helper.
* Where the backspace key should be is actually bound to the delete key by default (guessing that's because this keyboard is targeted for Japanese users). Again fixed in External Keyboard Helper.
Other than that this keyboard is a keeper.
this is just like the Freedom Pro Keyboard I got over a year ago. It has SPP and HID as well. Even the little device stand that comes out the keyboard. the only that that is a bit odd for me, was the space bar being two pieces since I'm so train to hit the center. It also will let you know any flaws in your typing technique.
I like the keyboard overall though. It's a lot nicer than the virtual keyboard of mobile devices.
bit overpriced for what it is isn't it?
It might be by just a tad but it looks like a pretty pimp bluetooth keyboard especially because it's foldable. I'm currently using the Microsoft Wedge Bluetooth Keyboard which was normally $99 but I got mine on sale for $79. It works great with the Note 2 right out of the box and I use it together with a Rocksoul Bluetooth Mouse and it's an awesome combination imo. Thanks op for the heads up though on your keyboard because I'm definitely gonna look into it!
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DaBountyHunter said:
bit overpriced for what it is isn't it?
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A little, mostly because no one is reselling it in the US. Both of mine shipped from Japan. At the same time I'm fine with paying a little more for something that feels more like a ThinkPad keyboard.
Wish someone would make a good metal foldable bluetooth keyboard like the one Palm's had a few years back.
rubin110 said:
Particularly the TK-FBP018. Any of the other models typically wont be able to pair with Android due to Apple's craptastic Bluetooth certification practices. If you grab one of these off of ebay, make sure you message the seller ahead of time and confirm the model number, I've screwed myself over once by receiving the iOS only version already. You can find them for around $130 USD.
http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/full-keyboard/tk-fbp018/index.asp
Generally the keyboard works great. The key button hinge design is taken after Thinkpads (which I love). The keys are about the same size as a normal sized laptop keyboard, and for the most part nothing feels cramped. The thing folds down pretty small (only a little bigger than the Note's footprint). Haven't really used it enough yet to drain the batteries.
The built in detachable phone stand is really only made for phone sized phones. I can stand up my Note II on it on it's highest angle but if I need to touch the device the whole thing will topple over if I don't take the care to actually hold the thing still.
Gripes:
* Can't really use it on anything other than a flat surface. There's a "lock" bar that tries to provide a way to prevent the thing from folding up, but it still feels flimsy in my lap.
* My pinky mixes up the directional up arrow key for the right shift key. I've gone through and switched the keys with External Keyboard Helper.
* Where the backspace key should be is actually bound to the delete key by default (guessing that's because this keyboard is targeted for Japanese users). Again fixed in External Keyboard Helper.
Other than that this keyboard is a keeper.
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could you pls tell me how u managed to turn it to backspace again? i have exact the same problem
nevermind, solved it
rubin110 said:
... You can find them for around $130 USD.
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Generally the keyboard works great.
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For 130$ it should at least work great!
dalanik said:
For 130$ it should at least work great!
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For $130 it should still be there in the morning and cook breakfast.
Phogg said:
For $130 it should still be there in the morning and cook breakfast.
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For $130 you can buy 6x Anker ultra-slim keyboards (in my review) or 2x Logitech Android keyboards with case/stand (review coming in a few days).

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