O2 XDA Car Kit vs Home Made Car Kit - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

I am looking for info / help on Car Kits.
I have a TomTom Navigator SatNav System and am trying to decide whether or not to by an O2 Car Kit or Start modifying what I allready have to do the same job.
1. Does the O2 Car kit have voice cancellation Circuitry to reduce bounce back to my caller.
2. Does anyone have any circuit diagrams that will create the Radio Mute function on audio output from the XDA (I also want the radio to mute on voice navigation prompts)
3. Does the O2 Car Kit have a socket to enable me to attach my TomTom GPS Reciever or will i have to modify the Car Kit if i decide to buy rather than make.
4. Whats the cheapest place in the UK to buy the car kit from.
5. Does anyone have any other advice on this topic as it would be very usefull to me.

roycruse said:
I am looking for info / help on Car Kits.
I have a TomTom Navigator SatNav System and am trying to decide whether or not to by an O2 Car Kit or Start modifying what I allready have to do the same job.
1. Does the O2 Car kit have voice cancellation Circuitry to reduce bounce back to my caller.
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I think, the Car kit does include such a system. The "voice quality" is quiet good, like on other car kits....
roycruse said:
2. Does anyone have any circuit diagrams that will create the Radio Mute function on audio output from the XDA (I also want the radio to mute on voice navigation prompts)
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This is the same function like the original Car kit do. It does mute the radio on all audio ouputs from the xda. There is no difference if the audio output is either from a calling, nor from the Navisystem, nor if the mediaplayer is used. But this is also a little problem. It turns off radio too, when you tap on the startmenu and get the "tap-beep"....
roycruse said:
3. Does the O2 Car Kit have a socket to enable me to attach my TomTom GPS Reciever or will i have to modify the Car Kit if i decide to buy rather than make.
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You have to modify it a little bit. Most of the GPS Recievers have a PS2 Connector to attach it to the XDA. The Car kit have an other Connector (don't know what it is..). i change the connectors of the Car kit to PS2 and it works fine....
roycruse said:
4. Whats the cheapest place in the UK to buy the car kit from.
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I buyed my Car Kit at Ebay for 149.- €uro. This was the cheapiest place i found... (I live in Germany)
roycruse said:
5. Does anyone have any other advice on this topic as it would be very usefull to me.
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There is a thread about FVH an he has also a review of the original car kit.
Search here in the forum...
Regards
Stefan

One more question
I notice the O2 car kit claims to require professional installation and an external antenea
I presume the external antenea is optional and not required.
What is actually involved in connecting it all up - both electrically and physically.

In every car kit, there is a hint, to go to an "professional" to install it.
But you can do it yourself, when you're able to do some basic "electrical an pysical" installations.
You need to connect it to circuit of the car and to your radio and you have to install the speaker and the microphone. That's all.
The external antena is optional and not required. The same thing with the gps-receiver.
At the car kit are connectors for:
battery +
battery -
icognition or also battery +
Radio mute
2 x speaker output
microphone
external antena
gps
That's all...

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found a commercial car kit

HI everyone, been reading th eforum for a while now, and the questions if car kits keeps comming up.
I managed to find one today online, looks ok, but needs professional installation.
here is the link ( and no, before you ask, I am nothing to do with the company, just came across it while looking for accessories for my new XDA)
http://www.directmobileaccessories.com/product_info.php/cPath/161_162/products_id/585
hope it's good!
Thanks
John
Product not found!
Sorry about that, if you look under O2 in the same page you will see it. Ever so sorry about that.
damn links!!
This is the O2 xda car kit
I ordered the kit from directmobileaccesories.com and it arrived yesterday, it is an O2 boxed xda car kit.
Everything works fine - except - I removed my old Nokia 9110 car kit which had a radio mute kit that feeds the phone through the car speakers, and tried to connect the radio mute from the O2 kit to the radio mute lead used by the Nokia car kit. When I place the xda in the cradle it immediately cuts over from the radio to the phone, even before the phone part of the xda is activated.
I have a radio mute on the steering console so I have temporarily disconnected the mute lead and fitted the speaker that came with the xda car kit.
Any suggestions why the radio mute cuts over straight away ?
Try making a call
Hi,
I have seen the same behaviour, it looks like the mute works reversed. If you make a call the radio will swotch on.
If this is your problem it should be easy to fix by using a small relay or something similiar.
Francois
the problem has resolved itself
the problem I had with the radio muting all the time has resolved itself, it now works perfectly.

XDA and GPS

I am thinking of getting an XDA to use incar for GPS. I have read some articles on this site but they all seem to approach the problem half way through. Can anyone suggest the best GPS device, cradle, software and anything else that is needed
thanx
gps for xda
try www.routeplanners.co.uk, or www.tomtom.com for the superb TomTom Navigator2 packages for XDA.
Good luck Chop!
You can try also:
http://www.pharosgps.com/products/phone/c_siemens_ppc.htm
There is plenty of useful information on:
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk
Zed,
I would consider buying one of the new generation XDA's (XDA II). They are supposedly equipped with bluetooth. The main advantage with this would be the possibility to buy a bluetooth GPS mouse, or a standalone bluetooth enabled GPS reciever.
The problem with the non-bluetooth GPS mice is their need to use the serialport at the bottom of the device to communicate. If you wan't a car mount kit with amplified speaker built into the back of the cradle, they are only sold as powered mounts which use the serialport for charging.
Thus you would have to use the GPS mouse with charging capabilities and let the charging dongle for the mount with amplified speaker hang loose.
Or you could buy a car mount without power, but then you would not have the amplified speaker functionality.
The amplified speaker functionality is great for spoken directions from some the map softwares available.
Here's a link to a car mount with amplifying speaker:
http://www.arkon.com/CM530.html
I have bought one of these, but I have not recieved it yet.
If you want a review, take a look at:
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29460&highlight=car*+mount
Here's a listing of GPS'es with prices and links:
http://www.gpspassion.com/en/hardware/gpslist.htm#Mouse GPS Receivers
GPS RECEIVER FOR XDAs
Have got a xdaII;
I first tried Tomtom bluetooth but often ecounter no power for long distance travelling. I sold it afterwards and switched to a wired solution with in car charger. It is perfect.
Details. pls. refer to the link below. It also works with Orange SPVM1000, Imate, MDA, IPAQ etc.
http://shop.wangtao.co.uk/info.aspx?ads=gps
Wish you will be successful in chosing one best suitable for you.
Your profile doesn't say what country you're in, and the answer varies by location. In the USA, Routis is a top-notch application for navigation. Pharos is absolute garbage. Deluo, the company that makes Routis also makes a very nice GPS receiver that works well with the XDA I and XDA II.
Bluetooth GPS receivers are rather silly, in my opinion. Totally pointless, since you need to power both the PDA and the GPS, so...you might as well wire them up. The Deluo kit has a nice arrangement with a lighter socket and a single cable up to the device to carry both power and the GPS data.
I would like to know how you get on with the Arkon, I have the same one and it is unusable, every time the phone changes to a different cell you get that doomp-de-doomp sound, when the phone rings the noise from the speaher due to direct rf breakthrough is absolutely atrocious and makes the system unusable.

First post - THB Bury problem

Hi,
This is my first post so please be easy on me
I am an ICT Engineer and I am having problems with one of my customers HTC Kaiser (re-badged as Orange TyTN II).
He has an THB Bury cradle. The Kaiser has TomTom installed (Orginal disc version 6 navigator), but when the phone is docked in the cradle it goes to Cra Kit profilr and he gets no sound from TomTom.
I have changed the profile, but still no sound from TomTom. I have checked the cradle it it works fine apart no sound for sat nav.
I have searched for hours on loads of forums to find a fix for this i.e. new ROM from Orange or patch from THB, but can't find anything.
Has anyone else had this problem and is there a fix i.e. registry alternation.
Is there anything within the TomTom settings for this.
It might be that this is the way it will work, afterall you do not want the TomTom coming out over the audio of the telephone call.
Thanks for the reply.
We used to use the Orange SPV M2000 (HTC BlueAngel) with TomTom using the same hands free kit (different cradle obviously) and never had a problem. The sat nav audio would work as normal, but when a call came in the sat nav would cut out until the call had finished.
I have have been through the TomTom settings (very limited) and cannot see anyway of changing the audio on it.
It seems more like a HTC Kaiser problem rather than TomTom or the cradle, because it worked fine with a BlueAngle.
Just found this on a THB Bury re-sellers site: -
"Please note: When the Phone is put into the cradle, the Phone will immediately go into car kit profile, which means the external speaker will be disabled [loss of sound for the Sat Nav directions]"
Is the registry hack to stop this happening?
Have you tried using the tomtom and checking there is audio working ok without putting it in the cradle?
Yep. TomTom works absolutly fine out of the cradle. I have even bought a new cradle to check if the original cradle was defect, but still no sound.
To summarise: -
TomTom audio working fine out of THB Bury HFK
TomTom stops working when in THB Bury HFK (enters Car Kit Profle)
Could you not move the handsfree cradle to maybe a vent mount solution so that when you are in the car you can view the TomTom directions instead of hearing them?
Personally I would find yor situation ideal as I hate SatNav voice commands and prefer to navigate from the map.
I got a response from THB Bury about this problem:
"Dear Alistair, many thanks for your enquiry regarding our Bury product range.
The Navigationcommand didn´t run over the carkit, because the Navigationsoftware got no software for muting.
Best regards
Dean Taylor
--Bury-Infoline-- "
Not really what I needed so.....
Does anyone know either how to doctor the USB connector so that it doesn't cause the phone to switch to 'car mode' OR a registry/software fix which stops the TnTY/Stellar from muting its internal speaker when in 'Car' mode?
Failing that I need a new car kit which, holds the phone, charges it, provides hands free phone service, allows TT6 audio instructions through and doesn't blow the USB port. Just like the THB Bury 'Universal' kit should do.
Any recommendations? Alistair

Hands Free Bluetooth Car Kit (AT&T Tilt)

I recently got an AT&T Tilt and am looking for a good, reliable bluetooth kit for my 2005 Toyota 4Runner. I found two different kits that look good, and I want to know if any of you have any experience with these:
Parrot 3200 LS Color:
http://reviews.cnet.com/car-audio/parrot-3200-ls-color/4505-3425_7-32138918.html
THB Bury Comfort Compact 9060:
http://yourwirelesssource.com/buy/accessories/cat/1005/accessory/301883?eventGroup=4&eventPage=1
I just want a good kit that wires into the vehicle and uses the car speakers. Any suggestions on other kits are welcome.
Thank You for the help.
Motorola T605. I'm looking at getting that one now and it looks pretty good. I would link to it, but I'm tired, I've been drinking, and I will be asleep in about 117 seconds from now.
www.safewireless.com
Visit www.safewireless.com and check out the car kit demos on the parrot car kits, this will give you a real feel of the kits. Also they have car kit and harness bundles.
If you have any questions, call them and they will tell you evrything you need to know about Parrot car kits.
greenhead said:
I recently got an AT&T Tilt and am looking for a good, reliable bluetooth kit for my 2005 Toyota 4Runner. I found two different kits that look good, and I want to know if any of you have any experience with these:
Parrot 3200 LS Color:
http://reviews.cnet.com/car-audio/parrot-3200-ls-color/4505-3425_7-32138918.html
THB Bury Comfort Compact 9060:
http://yourwirelesssource.com/buy/accessories/cat/1005/accessory/301883?eventGroup=4&eventPage=1
I just want a good kit that wires into the vehicle and uses the car speakers. Any suggestions on other kits are welcome.
Thank You for the help.
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I got this last night and its great http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390945
I was specifically looking for a wire free audio streaming soloution, but the hands free profile stuff works great.
Hi I have used a parrot ck3100 for years now (for the last 4 phones I have had) cant fault it updated the software through Bluetooth each time and still working today, easiest way I found to fix in to the car to mute radio and put call through speakers is to get a conversion lead form a dealer, (£20.00 ish in the uk) this fits between your radio and the car kit.
I have the parrot kit installed in my subaru. my tilt and my wifes samsung are paired to it and the friggin thing works great. i suggestthat if you have the original radio in your veichle, then get the wiring adaptor for that car. this way no wires have to be cut. if needed, i will post a link here for the website were i got the adaptor for my subaru.
I also have the CK3100. It USUALLY works great, but I have had some issues w/ my Tilt. Occaisionally, it will phantom dial when I first start the vehicle. When that particular glitch occurs, it will continue to randomly mute the stereo for a couple of seconds every few minutes.
A recent firmware update to the Parrot seemed to fix the problem, but it started again after a week. I just got a new Tilt (warranty replacement) and haven't had the problem again, but it's only been a couple of days. It was a week after that firmware update before the issue recurred.
If you go w/ the Parrot, I highly recommend www.parrotkits.com for a wiring harness. I'll say that I did not like the way it functioned in my Nissan Titan due to the way the factory stereo is configured - it caused a loud pop in the amp when switching between the stereo and phone. In most other vehicles, this should not be a problem. It sure did make the install a breeze.
Dan

FM transmitter accessory for tmobile htc hd2 ?

Because the HTC HD2 doesn't have fm transmitter function so i want to buy FM transmitter accessory. Does anyone have any recommendation for me ? ( sorry for my english)
tritran18518 said:
Because the HTC HD2 doesn't have fm transmitter function so i want to buy FM transmitter accessory. Does anyone have any recommendation for me ? ( sorry for my english)
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There is no reason that any FM transmitter with a 3.5" jack connection (the vast majority of them) would not work on an HD2. Just don't get one of those that connect only via the IPOD dock connector.
So, it's not really an HD2-specific question. Better to post in a forum about accessories for all phones.
I haven't had great results myself, with any FM transmitter. It is hard to find a good frequency to transmit on. Then, if you find one, that works well in one place--as you drive around in the car, you might easily find that frequency doesn't work well any more--noise interference, etc. As you are driving, it could not be safe to fiddle around a lot with changing frequencies as you drive.
I haven't been happy with any I have tried.
Other opinions?
what is an FM transmitter for, is it to do stuff like broadcast GPS directions on your car speakers, or is it for getting traffic information on the GPS software?
iwin2000 said:
what is an FM transmitter for, is it to do stuff like broadcast GPS directions on your car speakers, or is it for getting traffic information on the GPS software?
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It is to broadcast any sound from any device with a 3.5 sound jack, through the car radio.
Most often they are used for playing music from your MP3 player (in this case the phone), through your car radio.
It would also work for any other sound though--phone calls, etc. (Only works in one direction, however, so if the phone is far from your mouth, may not be too great to use on phone calls, if you want the other party to hear you.)
tritran18518 said:
Because the HTC HD2 doesn't have fm transmitter function so i want to buy FM transmitter accessory. Does anyone have any recommendation for me ? ( sorry for my english)
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I think its hard to recommend...I have a Belkin iTrip that I picked up at Wal-Mart when me and we took our kids to Disneyland this past June. It works flawlessly in my wifes Jetta (which is what we drove to California in) and the sound was actually much better than I could have ever expected.
...however, in my Grand Vitara...its almost completely unusable, when I can get a station to pick it up...its far below FM quality and I have to have the phone in a certain location and in a specific position just to acheive this.
I have been looking into either getting a bluetooth receiver to attach to the stock head unit...or replacing the head unit all together (I would prefer to keep the stock one though)
I think it has something to do with the power of the antenna on your stereo, which is going to vary with every vehicle.
I did find a little gadget that you simply plug into the antenna input on the back of the stereo and plug the antenna into this gadget...when you turn the gadget on...it basically makes every radio station pure static by shutting off the antenna (It was only like $10.00...and I think it would work if you wanted to go the transmitter way)
Use a speakerphone with FM transmitter
I use a motorola T505 and you can get them for around $50 or so.

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