Bluetooth for XDA (Serial Conector) - MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories

Hello everyone!
I've found a device which allows you to use Bluetooth on an old PC with no USB- Ports. It works on an Serial Port.
Does everyone know if it is possible to use it on the xda?
I think it's just like an Modem or GPS for the Serial port.
To the XDA-Developers team: Is it possible to modify it to act as a Wireless LAN device? Bluetooth and Wireless LAN use the same Frequencies (2.4 GHz).
Sorry, for my bad English. It's my school English. (I'm from Germany)
Link to more information’s:
http://www.hama.de/hama/servlets/Katalog?call=article&articleNr=49201&js=1&dhtml=1&ww=1142&wh=699
It's in German.....sorry

A Bluetooth device can not be modified to communicate as an 802.11 wireless device. It is true that they both use the same frequency, but they are different technologies.
But..
It is possible to use a serial Bluetooth device provided that drivers are developed for it and the power requirements are not prohibitive.
This would be VERY desirable.
-Bedammit

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802.11 via XDA connector ?

They have GPS receivers that work through the bottom cradle connection for IPAQs they also have other devieces like keyboards that work like this.
Would it be possible to develop a 80211 dongle that could click into the
cradle port? is anyone working on this? is there anyone that would have
enough knowledge to beging working on this i could contact. I would love to get 802.11 for this baby.
Dan said:
Would it be possible to develop a 80211 dongle that could click into the cradle port? is anyone working on this? is there anyone that would have enough knowledge to beging working on this i could contact. I would love to get 802.11 for this baby.
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No, sorry. The XDA connector on the bottom supports USB and serial. However, the USB will only do 'Slave Mode', i.e. act as a USB device towards a computer. There are USB 802.11 devices, but they work as devices as well, and thus need a 'Master' to talk to. And there's no serial 802.11b transceivers out that we know of.
You could conceiveably build a USB device that plays the master role and feeds the IP through just like ActiveSync does, but nobody has done that yet. For the manufacturers this shouldn't be that hard, given the amount of spare processing power on these 802.11 tranceivers. (And while we're at it, we might as well incorporate a GPS connected to the serial port...)
hmm
so this won't be something that a little hacking group such as XDA developers would be capable of?
Hi
In a short time a wireless lan card will be available which you can plug into you SD Slot. See http://www.sychip.com/wlan-module.html
See ya
Mick
Helllo.
I don´t think, that the wireless lan card will work in the XDA. In the technical PDF there is a picture that shows a SDIO-Interface.
XDA still do NOT have a SDIO-Interface.
Regards
Stefan
hold on, why do u need a wireless lan card? I thought the xda was a wireless device, surely it ought to have wireless connectivity built into it? If you had a corporate wireless network, cant it just be configured to connect?
Of course it has wireless support, using GSM and/or GPRS and infrared. But WLAN support is something entirely different, and that is definitely not included.
Shouldn't be too hard to design a WLAN adapter acting as an USB master though. With the pass-through functionality built into the activesync software it has definitely been shown that the USB connection can be used for network access.
bamse said:
Shouldn't be too hard to design a WLAN adapter acting as an USB master though. With the pass-through functionality built into the activesync software it has definitely been shown that the USB connection can be used for network access.
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Yo bamse,
Ever want to be very, very popular ? You would make hero of the month on our charts, that's for sure...
What about these guys:
http://www.datahunter.com
I know it's RS232 and not USB, but apart from that the Liberator should do the trick almost straight away, and they also advertise a module that could be built into a sleaker package:
OEM 802.11 WLAN Mini-Modules
OEM and ODM manufacturers can incorporate FCC ?Modular? pre-certified 802.11b mini-modules into their products. The Data Hunter 802.11 mini-modules have the Operating System Wireless LAN software drivers built-in. Interface options are the ones Engineers need, including high-speed async logic-level or RS232, SPI processor interface, USB and full Ethernet TCP/IP. No additional FCC certification required for the modular 802.11 data radios. Start shipping integrated WLAN immediately. Includes single antenna for bulkhead mount or dual diversity antennas
bamse said:
What about these guys [...]
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I could be wrong, but from their site I get the strong impression none of it is done, and they'll start work on it the minute someone orders a few thousand.
Also: they base everything on the Compact Flash 802.11 cards with some extra hardware, which is unlikely to pretend it's a PC running ActiveSync straight out of the box, so some extra work is in order.
What we need is a CF 802.11 card that comes with an SDK for adding your own code. No need for extra parts and power consumption: the card should have enough spare cycles to pretend it's ActiveSync on Windows plus the USB. (Or serial at 115.200 if that's somehow easier). Then all we need after the two manmonths of coding is a nice plastic stick-one case and we're done...
Ok, how about this then:
http://www.tuanistechnology.com/products/avaya/converter/
Or this:
http://www.autodnc.de/ctwlani.htm
You'll find a whole bunch of them out there, all serial and 115200bps, but none of the companies seem to have identified the PDA-owners a market for their produkts.
I'd say most of these products use way to much power for PDA use.
Really, let's not build stuff that's already on the PC or CF card to begin with.
Anyone found a way to access 802.11b yet? I see that Linksys has the WCF12 (The Wireless CompactFlash Card installs directly into your Pocket PC using a CompactFlash Type I or Type II slot). I think that fits the IPaq. I need one for the SX56.
I saw some creative ideas above. Anybody try matching the pin-outs yet??
:roll: Sigh. Read my lips. It won't work. It's not a matter of "pin-outs." It's far, far deeper than that on both hardware and software.
And really, would you want to access an ethernet network at 115k??? What for?
LumpiStefan said:
Helllo.
I don´t think, that the wireless lan card will work in the XDA. In the technical PDF there is a picture that shows a SDIO-Interface.
XDA still do NOT have a SDIO-Interface.
Regards
Stefan
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While I doubt that anyone will, it ought to be a small task to design a Bluetooth interface that will work with SDIO or SD either as a polled device or memory mapped I/O. For Bluetooth this should produce acceptable results --- for 802.11b clearly it would not.
It won't work. It's not a matter of "pin-outs." It's far, far deeper than that on both hardware and software.
And really, would you want to access an ethernet network at 115k??? What for?
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It certainly seems doable. What is the limitation on the SX56 that does not exist on iPaq? And since I struggled through years and years of 36K dialup before DSL, for the limited data access needed for a PDA, 115K seems like heaven. Noone is going to treat it like a workstation. But access to remote data has a wide range of applications.
The iPaq has an expansion port, the XDA does not.
Carlos:
If you have a quick look at one of the links I have provided above you should find that there are a couple of solutions available for anyone who would like to connect a 802.11 device to a serial port. They may be a little bulky and power hungry, but that can surely be taken care of.
There will be 256MB SDIO card with built-in 801.11, right? What about a 256MB SDRW card with built-in SDIO and USB-host? With the USB/serial/power/peripheral connector of the Qtek sitting next to the SD-slot you could easily build a device that connects to both "ports". Wouldn't it be nice?
wi-fi stuffs for Qtek
Hi Bamse,
Could you tell me what exactly that I would need to purchased
to have my Qtek works with wi-fi? Thank you.
None of it exists today. Everything posted so far is theoretical. It will never exist. There's no market for it.

USB solution for Wireless Modem??

Anyone have/know of a solution to use USB instead of Serial for the wireless modem fetures?
The Laptop systems I build are too small and dont offer LPT or Serial ports.
Thanx
Todd
-- I do have a USB to Serial adapter kit from Belkin but would rather not have to use that.
I know how to do it: there's just no freakin' time!
Could someone please do the following:
- Create a virtual serial port on the PC. (This is the only non-trivial part, especially if it must work under 98/ME as well as under NT/2000/XP.)
- Verify presence of special DLL upon ActiveSync, transfer DLL if it's not there.
- When COM port on host PC is opened, signal is sent to DLL, which proceeds to suspend TAPI and talk to the the modem. (See XDAunlock.exe source for details)
- Use the documented method for transferring streaming data via ActiveSync, from the virtual comm port, via the DLL, to the modem. And vice versa, ofcourse. Comm port can be at any speed, modem is 115k2.
- Revert to normal when virtual COM port is closed.
If someone has code for a virtual com-port lying around, the rest isn't hard, and it would make a lot of people very happy.
well i guess ill do this instead for now
here is a nice small adapter i found w a virtual port - similar to the Belkin i already have but smaller in size (and this is important)
http://www.iogear.com/products/product.php?Item=GUC232A
Hey can i please get a pole from the members on who is using the wireless modem - the quality they are getting and the provider (ie ATT, Tmobile...) they are using please?
WiFi anyone??
well here is an application im planning on emulating w the Wireless modem of the XDA. Currently Im using Wifi which is great but when i cant "stumble" on an open AP id like to use the wireless modem in the XDA
http://www.jonadams.com/pages/wifi/wifi_setup.htm

[Q] Can you make your phone act as a RF transmitter?

Hi,
I saw a video recently about how an unrooted N1 can be used as a remote (for Logitech Rouve). I am curious to know how exactly that works, and whether we can develop our own remotes like that?
My guess is, its somehow using RF ... am I wrong in assuming this? I want to know whether there is a way (or, if someone can direct me in the right direction) to make a nexus one act as a RF transmitter by attaching some piece of small hardware (either DIY or bought from somewhere else).
Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks!!
Remote controls of home equipment work by IR.
Nexus doesn't have IR. It can remotely control stuff by connecting through WiFi or BT, and assuming there's SW running on both sides that will make the control possible.
You can't transmit RF in any way, unless it's WiFi or BT. And you can't connect anything to Nexus, unless it's a USB host, or unless you run USB host drivers on Nexus and have a specific supported USB device that you connect.
N1 -> wifi > Rouve > tv

[Q] Can we use galaxy s wireless adaptater to inject packets?

Hi,
Is it possible to use Galaxy s wireless adaptater to inject packets using backtrack or aircrack-ng?
The real question is can I use my phone to crack my wep/wpa wireless key using backtrack 4 or aircrack-ng?
Wireless adaptater needs to support injection packets and need to be supported by linux/windows.
If everything is ok, then it could be possible to crack wep/wpa using phone, connected as modem usb, with wifi turned on to sniff and inject.
Erm, you cannot run BackTrack on your 'phone. Its a x86 distribution based on Slax (I think).
You could try statically cross-compiling the suite of programme that aircrack uses for ARM architecture, but you have to check that the wireless module on Android support the features used for packet injection. I don't know if the SGS drivers do, nor even the wireless radio hardware does. Source & instructions are available from here:-
http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=install_aircrack
http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/wiki/Sources
Bon chance!

Android Monitors with built in RJ45 hardwired connection.

Hey everyone, long time reader, first time question.
I am dealing with a 23in. android monitor, really its just a large tablet with a visa mount and desktop base.
Android version 6.0.1 Kernel version 3.10.0 Perfect display out of China is the supposed manufacture, their model number is IP240WE.
I am attempting to hard wire an IP camera direct to the rj45 port much the same way I can to any pc, assign some quick ip info and achieve a live view from the camera utilizing pc software, but in this case, use the mobile software.
The trouble I am running into is that when the "monitor" is not connected to any modem or router, the darn thing wont give any network info to base my camera addressing off of. I can enable the wifi connection, then use the ipconfig tool and see all sorts of network info, still wont allow a direct connection to the camera using the hard wire rj45 port. As I understand things, android devices are new to getting the hardwired capability, that's all fine and stuff, but how the heck to turn on the darn rj45 nic without connecting it to a managed network device???
The long and the short of this, I am asking this tablet, er, monitor.... to act like a pc when it is not connected to a managed network and have the nic active and assigning info, even if is just an ip and subnet mask. Networking things is not the issue, turning on the freaking nic is!!!!

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