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I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
bad link... you cant link it with dots: )
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
daguerrotipo said:
hi
I'm very surprised because tuxhero said yesterday that the blackstone has compass harware:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=833
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Fallen Spartan said:
Your link does not work
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4304713&postcount=833
tuxhero said:
Not sure but some sources say that we have it.
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"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
Moony1987 said:
"1. Today i came to know that our Blackstone has Compass Hardware too and we have code for it too."
Seems to me that you were sure?
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ya but not tested it to be so sure
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Ahh righto
I think we do have.
Thats the shame 'bout HTC (besides da poor quality of hard- and software): they setup ONE hardware and make 5 PDAs with slighty changed details. they were never interested in making good hardware.. everytime they took something away the previous model had... now, they do have android and are able to clone nearly the same device just with another OS.
in commercial aspects, this makes sense.... but as consumer I can only think of it as a pain in the neck. my old universal has a high res display, a 3,5mm audioconnector, a well made keyboard and a fast cpu... years ago... a shame it is the size of a brick .
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
purec0de said:
its probably another 'tv out' scenario...
basically the chipset has the tech but other required hardware / software is not present hence the features can never be used.
why on earth HTC cripple devices like this is boggling.....if the HD had been released with TV-out (which the qualcomm chipset supports) & a hw compass (to be confimed) it would have levelled the competition.....
i am sure their marketing strategy has good reasons for not doing...but as said earlier from the consumers point of view its a pain in the butt...especially considering some of us are locked in 24 month contracts.!! so wont be purchasing other handsets even if we wanted too.
lets hope some clever devs find a way to unlock these features!! (if possible)
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I disagree your argumentation:
Developers here wrote drivers to implement TMC and RDS into the features of the Blackstone. HTC hasn´t done it yet.
HTC seems to leave possible feature unused. Maybe to save time for their developers.
The old topic of a missing video driver is another example for that.
Draque:the_Plaque said:
If someone would mad it possible to use the Compass HW with WinMo i would gladly set a bounty of 50$.
Goal would be a little App to proof that it ist working plus the sourcecode for other Devs.
Does anyone join in?
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50$ from me for unlocking the feature + another 100$ if anyone makes it work with Google Maps + another 100$ if someone makes an augmented reality app like Wikitude (Android).
Only if it's done before the release of the HTC Leo
It's a AK8976A chip
well i would chip in $50 as well .. if it worked !!
KlausFindus said:
It's a AK8976A chip
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is the same that dream phone?
Byes
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
ghosty_uk said:
haha, did anyone think that they mite have released the phone in haste, or maybe they did it on purpose to allow the release of the HD pro to include such features, along with a 128GB internal memory (i wish).
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Sometimes happen... It's true that more with anothers brands (apple), I can remember Ipod touch, iphone, wifi in the macs....
may be this time no but is possible.
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I've read the same thread from Tuxhero and I have to see it before I believe it. The only thing we've got is a blanket statement that he has read it somewhere. Someone else created slight confusion on this site before with similar statements.
Not saying that he's lying (in fact, I hope he's right), a source would help. Until then, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Im guessin they didnt include alot of features cause when the phone was released whoever ws going to buy it would buy it anyway, and when competitors (Iphone3gs) release phones with features like the compass thing etc , htc can easily release newer phones with the same features ... sort of like having it ready on earlier models so when they need to release it they can quickly!
My guess
now that froyo is open source i hope someone here is working on a release for the milestone
Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?
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Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?
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what do u mean????oh u must have a iphone 4 don't hold it lmao
No, I am anti-Apple.
What I mean is working on Froyo for Milestone is futile because locked bootloader prevents Us from loading it to our devices.
Such work is in my opinion pointless until someone develops a method to overgo bootloader defences.
Ya, if we can get through with the bootloader i think we will be able to use the droid ROM
will some developers are working on it...maybe a dev from here can look into this http://and-developers.com/motorola_milestone
Just because they're working on it doesn't mean they're getting anywhere. A valiant effort to be sure, but doesn't change the fact that Motorola dicked us hard in the first place.
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Just because they're working on it doesn't mean they're getting anywhere. A valiant effort to be sure, but doesn't change the fact that Motorola dicked us hard in the first place.
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yes they butt faked us but have faith man anything is possible kinda ripped on u on the last post due to ur lack of faith and my desperate need for froyo
gemini002 said:
yes they butt faked us but have faith man anything is possible kinda ripped on u on the last post due to ur lack of faith and my desperate need for froyo
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You don't need Froyo. You want it. Big difference.
just got of the phone with telus they said its in beta and its coming out in july
swistak said:
Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?
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gemini002 said:
what do u mean????oh u must have a iphone 4 don't hold it lmao
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And that was a quote from Matrix, good movie
Paitor said:
And that was a quote from Matrix, good movie
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i was being sarcastic lol
How is there a thread putting sense ui on this if its encrypted?
sjones765 said:
How is there a thread putting sense ui on this if its encrypted?
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I would actually like to know this as well.
I think thats just files installed over a 2.1 kernel/sbf which has been modded. But froyo is a different firmware all together. I know dexter said it was a z image from zeus droid, left over from the port done there for droid. Its also meant to be taken off the wwe latest version for htc desire. Good work overall, but i still want froyo i need apps2sd working on 2.1 still ain't got it down yet, without wiping or loosing the lot. Add apps on sd card from 2.2 and also the adobe flash, and it will be a brilliant device!
I still feel very dissapointed about the locked boot loader as i really would like to have custom roms comming from the winmo scene previously.
Teleus coming out in July .........but when came the froyo for Milestone DACH ?
its the GSM Version ?
Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.
eatkabab said:
Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.
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This is an app, not a development thread. It should go in the Themes and Apps section.
^ disagree its a request for some DEV help on getting this to work on atrix. i'd really like for this to work on the atrix. been dying for skype video since last year.
^^^ Requests belong in Q&A or General - not Development...
http://gititbit.ch/sKa1
here is a direct link to the apk
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http://gititbit.ch/sKa1
here is a direct link to the apk
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cant install for some reason.
anyone else tried?
i couldnt get it to install either. Anyone pls explain how to get this to work
eatkabab said:
Thunderbolt's version of Skype WITH VIDEO is now available.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/11/download-skype-with-video-on-android/
It won't directly install for some reason (some how locked to the Thunderbolt?)
Would be real nice on the Atrix. Wish I could help more, but I'm just a dummy.
Thank you all very much. I bow to all your great feats.
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i took a quick look... it appears that it would not be an easy & quick fix / rebuild i dont think, the entire program is written to use and be depended on <uses-library android:name="com.htc.device" />... before taking on this project id wait out as skype said that att was suppose to get releases of its video call first so id think we cant be to far behind
For anyone interested, here is the deodexed apk decoded and built with apk-tool.
Note: This cannot be installed yet.
http://dev.gitbrew.org/~dasmoover/android/apk/dev/com.skypevideodeodex.apk
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i couldnt get it to install either. Anyone pls explain how to get this to work
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it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.
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it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.
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So sounds like it works on all HTC phone?
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dLo GSR said:
it doesn't work because it was not made for this phone. even if it did install, it wouldn't work with our camera because moto uses its own camera driver since froyo doesn't have one (gingerbread will). htc uses its own FFC driver as well.
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?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.
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?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.
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Because they contain drivers for all the phones they know of with FFCs I would bet.
Could it be that because att doesn't have 4g yet, Skype is holding out?
I apologize If I posted this in the wrong forum. It seemed logical for me to put it here...
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Because they contain drivers for all the phones they know of with FFCs I would bet.
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Probably right. Here is Motorola's API:
http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/library/motorola-front-facing-camera-api/
It is so frustrating that using the same system (android) and also having a front camera but we cannot use the same app (skype with video).
yup but that was specifically develpoed for the thunderbolt, I assume if it does get officially launched with it, it will be a matter of time before that spreads to being on other devices (much like when they launched skype in the first place on android) the key question is will they fix the sound issues that moto's config gives these voip programs.
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So sounds like it works on all HTC phone?
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I'm guessing no, but for reasons other than the camera driver.
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?? so how does yahoo video chat, fring, and other video call apks work on several devices? obviously it wasnt made for the phone, thats why the thread was posted] to modify it and get it to work.
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as I learned in the (otherwise useless) motorola atrix dev conference, the FFC driver for the atrix is written BY motorola. Android 2.2 does NOT have a standard FFC driver and so every phone that has an FFC and is running 2.1 or 2.2 is using their own FFC driver. That is why Tango and Qik did not work for the Atrix immediately when it was released, and Qik had to release an Atrix-only version of the app.
When gingerbread comes across all devices, it will have a standard FFC driver. But until then, every company running 2.2 uses their own and that is why these aren't compatible apps.
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Could it be that because att doesn't have 4g yet, Skype is holding out?
I apologize If I posted this in the wrong forum. It seemed logical for me to put it here...
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More than likely, it's because AT&T didn't want Skype to release it yet.. the carriers have a surprising amount of influence on app developers. Think of how the Inspire and Atrix still don't have HSUPA enabled whereas the iPhone 4 has had it since its release. My guess is they don't want to overload their already fragile network
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More than likely, it's because AT&T didn't want Skype to release it yet.. the carriers have a surprising amount of influence on app developers. Think of how the Inspire and Atrix still don't have HSUPA enabled whereas the iPhone 4 has had it since its release. My guess is they don't want to overload their already fragile network
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I know and people like me who have a bell atrix thats not even on bell have to suffer.
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http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-combined
Now that it is open sourced...and we have a great hackable device..
That is if HP doesn't change its mind like it has on all the other decisions in the last 3 months.
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I missed the firesale (in the UK), unfortunately. It appeared in argos.co.uk and I ordered one, but all I had was a lousy excuse that it had already run out. This is good news! Anyone else has an idea where I can get one for only $99?
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I missed the firesale (in the UK), unfortunately. It appeared in argos.co.uk and I ordered one, but all I had was a lousy excuse that it had already run out. This is good news! Anyone else has an idea where I can get one for only $99?
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They are having a refurb firesale on their eBay store Sunday, but US only i believe.
Nburnes said:
They are having a refurb firesale on their eBay store Sunday, but US only i believe.
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I must have missed out - again.
oppy said:
I must have missed out - again.
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It is at 6PM Central Time, only 11:30 here now, so nope.
Can't wait to see what the community does with this.
piotrbartkowiak said:
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948473
..seems there was some interest at the above thread when it was closed source.. perhaps we will see some renewed interest?
Here's hoping!
I think its a neat idea, however I think they could've garnered their own support (for the os) if they just added compatibility coding with native android apps (webos is still built on top of linux). Open-sourced was still one of the better decisions we've seen from that company in the past year.
What does this thread have to do with the Nook Color?
It has very similar hardware to a webos device, therefore porting it would be a bit easier than for devices with no drivers at all. Could be interesting, I've never played with a webos device so I am kind of curious how user friendly their software is.
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What does this thread have to do with the Nook Color?
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>Open Source
>Close in terms of hardware to existing webOS devices
>Nook is a very hacker friendly device
Will the one have a feature like the lg and samsung where it can use both cameras at the same time?
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Will the one have a feature like the lg and samsung where it can use both cameras at the same time?
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Not that's been highlighted in the reviews at this moment. I doubt this will be something available when the device launches, but we can be hopeful that HTC will add this feature. I doubt it will happen, but it's good to be hopeful.
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Not that's been highlighted in the reviews at this moment. I doubt this will be something available when the device launches, but we can be hopeful that HTC will add this feature. I doubt it will happen, but it's good to be hopeful.
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I know nothing about coding, but i would think it should be capable right?
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I know nothing about coding, but i would think it should be capable right?
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I'm sure it's capable, but there's the interest of doing it that the developers need to have before something like this takes flight. If you could find a developer that is interested in making it happen, then it could be possible. But to be honest, it's really too early in the game to start worrying about it. Still need to start with S-OFF, rooting, custom recovery, ROMs, kernels, etc. If any developer on here could chime in and give their input???
Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?
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Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?
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My sentiments exactly, that's more of a novelty feature than it is useful. It's just something for the manufacturer to day the can do out. Just like 3D cameras and dual screens it's a novelty. In glad sprint decided top keep the phone as it was designed. All I hope for is for HTC to do a better job of realising sources on a timely matter an a quick upgrade to 4.2.2
something clever goes here...
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Why on earth would one want to use both cameras simultaneously? I'm not sure there would be a real world use for this. Can anyone think of any?
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Why not? Say im in a really cool place and i want 2 send u a pic like a postcard. It would b cool 2 take dual pics or video 2 share. I dnt think its a novelty at all. I actually like that idea and would actually find it useful unlike a stupid 3d camera
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Why not? Say im in a really cool place and i want 2 send u a pic like a postcard. It would b cool 2 take dual pics or video 2 share. I dnt think its a novelty at all. I actually like that idea and would actually find it useful unlike a stupid 3d camera
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Seems like a hassle more than anything. It would just mean you have to line up a shot on you and on the other person at the same time. It's something I'd never use. Now, the EVO 3D. I loved using that camera. Good thing my wife still has my old one.
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Seems like a hassle more than anything. It would just mean you have to line up a shot on you and on the other person at the same time. It's something I'd never use. Now, the EVO 3D. I loved using that camera. Good thing my wife still has my old one.
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But you are already lined up holding the phone 2 take the picture? I think its more awesome than you think
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But you are already lined up holding the phone 2 take the picture? I think its more awesome than you think
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Whatever floats your boat.
I'm sure some app developer will create an app that mimics Samsung's functionality. It just seems like a farfetched idea so no one has thought of or even undertaken the development of such an app yet.
Keep your eyes on the play store and the forums, I'm sure one will pop up soon (If not already).
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I'm sure some app developer will create an app that mimics Samsung's functionality. It just seems like a farfetched idea so no one has thought of or even undertaken the development of such an app yet.
Keep your eyes on the play store and the forums, I'm sure one will pop up soon (If not already).
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Not to mention, only a handful of people have the devices. I don't think any of the Sprint models are even in developers hands.
Perhaps a quick photosphere?
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