About storage - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Hi,
I am sorry if the question is obvious but I don't know what is diference about storage and main memory to install software.
The soft that I decide install in storage does not need reinstall after hard reset?
Regards
Bye

Hi..
storage=ROM
Main memory=storage memory,wich is part of RAM
Program memory=RAM(random access,like RAMs used on pc)
RAGO :lol:

Thanks,
Then, I supose that the soft that I decide install in storage does not need reinstall after hard reset?
Bye

Your device has two types of memory, Flash-ROM and RAM
The Alpine has 128mb of RAM and 128mb of Flash-ROM
Flash-ROM is non-volatile, just like an SD Card it needs no power to keep the data on the chip, think of it like a little hard drive (It is often refereed to as "Disk on Chip")
RAM needs power to it to keep it running.
The Operating System for the device is stored on the Flash-ROM. When you hard reset your device the Operating System is read from Flash-ROM and installed to RAM. But the operating system on the Flash-ROM does not use the full 128mb, only about half of it.
So you can use the free 64mb of the Flash-ROM as Storage. On the Andies, that is how it comes from the factory, but on some other devices you have to "Unlock" this free space.

no2 said:
Thanks,
Then, I supose that the soft that I decide install in storage does not need reinstall after hard reset?
Bye
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this is right,but although it's files still exist there after a hard reset,u will not be able to open it from start programs,because the hard reset u performed has deleted the shortcuts...therefore,all u have to do after a hard reset is to locate the .exe file of the software in the storage,copy it,and go to windows/start menu/programs and paste a shortcut....this method also applies to softwares installed to SD or MMC....(note that not all the softwares will work,some of them install drivers and other files in windows directory,meaning that a hard reset will erase those files,required for the software to run)....
RAGO :lol:

Many thanks again
Bye

Related

I'm again with C_shekhar's WM6

Big thanx,,,, I'm an admirer of Indian Profissonal Works. Someone Cooked the rom and the other fixed my Mobile's board geniusly.
but still I have a problem/s.
1- Some programmes like MMS composer is only installing on the device ,, there is'nt any options to install it in any other disks
2- If I installed any programme in my SD card something weired happened !!
the SD card volume decreased,, the Storage of my device decreased and the programme volume decreased... !!!! why and how !!!
3- How can I merge the Storage and Programmes memories of the device ( not of the storage card ) togther to get only one with a big size..!!
4- what is the benefit of the ram disk can I do some manipulations with it to make my device faster !!!!!
Thing to be added
I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
Another issue,,, I've been searching and exploring everything I can possibly explore to find where the 4 mb of the MMS composer is ?? but I unfortunately found nothing... where a hell it goes !!!
lastly, As I mentioned in the thread above,, I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
First of all, "Program Memory" is not a place where you can put files. It's required by programs to run, just like RAM is required by your desktop computer. The RAMdisk is RAM used as a virtual storage card. What is called "Storage Memory" is flash memory. This is the root file system, and it's persistent. That means that if you hardreset your device you'll lost everything that's on your RAM (RAMdisk) but not what's on your storage memory. Unfortunately, it is small (32 MByte) and slow, whereas the RAMdisk is very fast. You should install all your programs on RAMdisk, otherwise you will not have enough space and your device will slow down. There's one other thing called "Pagepool". It's a part of RAM used for caching, so that program run faster, but you do not need to worry about it.
So, you can't merge Program Memory and Storage Memory. Both are required by your device to run.
What happened to your SD card is quite strange. Try to format it with a sd card reader on your desktop, and check if there are errors on it.
As far as I know, you won't be able to install the MMS software on RAMdisk or SD card because it needs to be in the \Windows directory to run.
Thanx Brother
Everything is clear now ... but Still there is questions to be asked later hahahah
Oweida said:
I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
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I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
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1. you do need RAMdisk:
-it's faster than SD card or Storage
-it keeps Storage clean
-in any decent ROM it IS both hard and soft reset persistent, unless you format it at hard reset.
2. 30 MB is more than enough for almost anyone. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338270
I currently have 18 MB free storage with lots of installed programs, plugins, navigators, dictionaries and so on. If I'd really cared, I could probably clean up more.

Internal Storage ?

Hello Guys,
I did a hard reset my Diamond and installed on it Elite 2.0
I then noticed that anything I placed in the internal storage was not deleted after the hard reset.
Can someone explain this to me ?
what's the difference ?
where should I install the softwares I want ?
thanks a lot guys.
You can install software wherever you want - but some may not work properly after hard reset as it need registry keys etc ... . Internal Storage is not erased after hard reset. It`s because of lack of microdrive slot so you can make your backups to internal storage when are you going to do hard reset. If you want to clean Internal Storage you can do it from Settings menu.
And finally if you used search you could find all this info here as this was mentioned several times.

storege card

I manged to format my internal card to fat 32 on my diamond whit my pc
I know i am stupid?!
Do anyone know how to restore it so it is working properlly.
the internall card is samsung moviNAND 4gb.
Plz tell me how to fix it!?
earl66 said:
I manged to format my internal card to fat 32 on my diamond whit my pc
I know i am stupid?!
Do anyone know how to restore it so it is working properlly.
the internall card is samsung moviNAND 4gb.
Plz tell me how to fix it!?
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Allready tried to reformat it from the diamond? If this not work, perhaps this tool can help: http://flash-format.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
If both fails it is really dangerous to have a corrupt file-system on the diamond.
Token42 said:
Allready tried to reformat it from the diamond? If this not work, perhaps this tool can help: http://flash-format.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
If both fails it is really dangerous to have a corrupt file-system on the diamond.
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Thanks for the tip!
I traied to format whith the diamond but it says that its missing nand flash?
Take a look, if the internal storage has the same name as before. If not, perhaps you can rename it from the pc via active-sync. Good luck!
Nobody else with an idea about this? If nothing works for the threadstarter, this means: as soon as the FAT of your internal storage gets corrupt, (whyever) you have bricked your device more or less, (at least reduced the memory to a laughable tiny amount).
If this is the case, it can only be a very, very bad joke of HTC. It's like you have a big button in Windows Vista wich destroys your harddisk and nowhere is a warning sign or a safety-mechanism - that can't be true, or? (Its not a good example, cause you can exchange a PC's harddisk).
I think there are a lot of reasons, why a FAT can get corupted. (Tools on the PDA, sudden power-loss) and I'am wondering if no one here is a little bit concerned about this.
I've used the 2GB SD-card in my last PDA over a long period and during this, it was several times corrupted, so that I had to reformat it.
In the German PPC-Welt forum someone has posted the same issue, he returned his device, but this is only possible in the first two weeks, at least in Germany.
1. When you hard reset you have the option to format Internal Storage.
2. You have the option to format Internal Storage in Clear Storage in settings.
tnyynt said:
1. When you hard reset you have the option to format Internal Storage.
2. You have the option to format Internal Storage in Clear Storage in settings.
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He can only format the storage, if it is found by the device. Obviousley this is not the case. Perhaps renaming helps. In this (German) thread, the same problem has been discussed: http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=133023&highlight=fat32
Finaly ther user in this thread was able to format the storage but it was still not correctly recognized by his apps.
I hope the creator of this thread has more luck.

Hard reset question.

Okay, the problem is -- I recently installed a theme on my internal storage, and no matter what I do, it doesn't want to uninstall. I tried going to start-settings-syystem-remove programs, but it didn't work. I tried running the cab file and letting it uninstall but it didn't work. So, i think the only other option is a hard reset. But, i want to back up everything on my internal storage. However, if i backup everything then restore, the theme will still be 'installed' correct? All i want from this is the theme uninstalled. I have the cab files of my other programs so i could easily load them up after the hard reset. I do want to keep my pictures and videos etc. Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
If you do a hard reset it will leave your internal storage intact, with no programs, or themes installed, you can then safely remove whatever folders/files it created on your internal storage when you installed it.
However you will need to reinstall each of you proggies as well that you need.
Maybe you could change the file extension, that could help if you want to delete the file.
I want to clear my internal storage with my hard reset, so if I save my backup file onto my internal storage, won't the backup file be deleted?
yes.....back things up on your pc if you are deleting both device and internal storage. PC backup is crucial anyway.
A hard reset won't clear your internal memory as well, you'll need to format that using the phone.
Well i want to format the internal storage so I have to go to start-settings-system-clear storage? But before that I probably should send everything to my PC so I can just send it to my phone after, correct?
Steps
1) send everything to your pc
2) after the transfer, begin to delete files from Internal using your PC
3) hard reset phone (will bring you back to manufactures specs with what ever rom you have)
Would i delete files from internal via my PC with ActiveSync? That doesn't seem to work for me half of the time.
To get the fastest response, when you connect the usb cable choose the Disk option, this will load the internal memory as a memory stick / flash drive in your My Computer, from there you can backup what you need and then format the drive. Putting it in Disk Mode is more or less same as ActiveSync but syncs direct with the internal memory chip so allows for faster file transfer
Steps one and two completed. Should I do a hard reset and press volume down instead of volume up? Or shouls i clear storage?
If you have backed up what you need, format the internal storage from either your PC or phone, then do the Hard Reset. Once done your back to square one, out of the box type with your phone.
I remember having a similar problem when I was trying to install a clock...
No matter how I tried to remove it, it just wouldnt remove completely. The name was no longer appearing in the "Remove Programs" list but there were still bits and pieces of the clock on my today screen...
Eventually, I just installed another clock over it and when I went to remove this new clock, it seems the uninstall process also removed the junk that was left over from my initial install... Everything was back to normal after that and I didnt need to do a hard-reset...
Maybe give that a go...
Did the clear storage, and walah the theme is gone. And opera now works. Thanks guys.
Glad you got it sorted mate, love how HTC make there devices so easy to manage, with some other phones if that had happened, you would be stuck.
Yet with the HTC I can flash ROM's as often as I like to try different ones, etc, almost change them as often as I reinstall my desktop and pc with all the beta testing I do. Nicely done HTC.

[Help] storage check is not showing apps on phone memory

So I updated my phone from wp8.1 to windows 10 withh language packs installed and customPFD applied........ but after updating my phone the storage check is showing only whatsapp installed on phone memory but the phone memory shows 1.02GB of space used for apps+games so can anyone plz help caz now i'm lacking space in my internal memory
souma_rox said:
So I updated my phone from wp8.1 to windows 10 withh language packs installed and customPFD applied........ but after updating my phone the storage check is showing only whatsapp installed on phone memory but the phone memory shows 1.02GB of space used for apps+games so can anyone plz help caz now i'm lacking space in my internal memory
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Hello,in primis make a backup of our data then, if you want I repeat if you want (there's no danger in do it) try an hard reset (settings=>info=>restores your phone).
if you tell me what your phone it is, there is a way to do the hard reset with button combination when the phone is off. I say to you to do an hard reset because tech prew is instable and when the os try to migrate the data between old and new version some errors can be incurring. after the hard reset you can restore your data with backup ( you must configure your phone as brand new)
that's all.
ciao!!
hit thanks if i have helped you.
sorry for my english!

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