REALLY Bad news from O2 UK re: ROM updates - PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General

Hi all,
sorry for my first post being such a gloomy one but after sending them an email asking for a bluetooth stack upgrade I got the following response I thought I should share. (Please note the second paragraph, bold part)
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Good Morning,
Thankyou for your email,
There are no plans to upgrade the bluetooth stack on the XDAIIi. We have just released the latest ROM upgrade for the XDAIIi, and this is likely to be the last. It is available to download from www.o2.co.uk/xda
The Xda IIi has the ability to play mono system sounds through some Bluetooth headsets. The method to put the device into 'system sounds' mode will vary depending on headset, however usually a quick press of the Call button on the Bluetooth headset will activate it. When 'system sound' mode is activated the headset icon on the top of the Xda IIi screen will change slightly. See pictures below.
headset mode
headset + mono system sounds mode
There are some stereo Bluetooth headsets are the market that are for listening to MP3's. The Xda IIi Bluetooth stack made by Broadcom is not compatible with these. Only basic mono sounds are possible via some bluetooth headsets.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if further assistance is required,
Regards
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O2 Data Support
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I'm now annoyed on quite a few fronts:
1. Bluetooth, I know there is a newer version out there that supports my HT820s and its just that O2 can't be bothered to do anything about it.
2. Radio version, again out of date and I know it is quite possible for them to provide a later version but it seems they won't.
3. WM5, although I guess we already knew it this would imply no intention to provide an upgrade at all.
So in summary, it's all crap!
BTW. Anyone out there who can help me get the bluetooth stack sorted so it can support "High quality audio" preferably with the remote control functions enabled as well?
Thanks,
David

Related

The Bluetooth Post - will it ever work!

Hi all,
Dunno about you guys but my new XDA2s is pretty paff when it comes to bluetooth. Scratchy sound, erratic volume, headset disconnecting randomly, poor range, etc etc.
I have used an old O2 G2 headset, a new O2 Bluetrek headset and most recently a Nextlink Bluespoon AX headset. All of them were nearly as bad as each other - except the volume on the AX is far less erattic. However, using them with my PC proved no problem so the XDA2s is at fault here!
I did find that forcing the headset to use headset mode rather than hands-free made a significant difference on the older models, however I cannot manage to force the AX to headset mode in any way (still waiting for tech support on that). The AX is let off though as its hands-free mode is as good as the headset mode on the older models, I just hope it will be even better when I force it to headset (if anyone knows how let me know!).
So - I have tried the following builds with my AX:
Radio 1.06.00 BT 3500 - BAD
Radio 1.06.00 BT 3900 - BAD
Radio 1.08.00 BT 3500 - Better volume and outgoing call, but bad for person on other end of the phone.
Radio 1.08.00 BT 3900 - Pretty much the same, small imporvement for me, no imporvement for other end of the line.
I am hoping we can keep a track of various radio and BT version in this post and try between us to figure out a good combination.
There is an extra audio dll
There is an extra audio dll for bluetooth that fixes some problems posted somewhere else in this forum.
This one fixed bluetooth headset enormous here.
I believe the dll you are talking about adds the high-quality bluetooth protocl, allowing stereo bluetooth heasets to be used for music etc. Does this make any difference to the normal bluetooth headsets though?
R
Hi,
Not sure how I got mine to work but I am using a Jabra 200 headset and it works great.
I am using a custom image of WM2003SE with the optional BT drivers and so far no problems - I found when I originally had similar issues I had to pair the headset again and then everything was okay (I noted the XDAII asked if I wanted to enable the headset support).
I get the odd problem where the headset icon disappears from the today screen but I found that its still there, just doesn't refresh so you have to tap the area and it comes to life.
The headset answers the calls after 3 rings (the headset creates beeps in time with the ringing) and when I dial the headset switches on after a second of making the call. The only thing I have noticed is that I cannot redial when pressing the button on the headset however it does hangup an existing call.
Cheers,
Godz
Hi finalzero - you say XDAII, do you mean IIs or are you using the II? My old XDAII worked fine - it is just this new XDAIIs that is giving me problems.
R
Bluetooth
Hi ,
same problem for me ,
Radio 1.08.00 BT 3900 - slightly better but not the best wit Jabra 250 V & Qtek 9090 ,
I installed BA_OEM_AudioGW CAB , downloadble somewhere around , but still problems .
When all of this will end ? Bluetooth is a nightmare !
I've had an XDA2 (several actually and got fed up of them being rubbish so insisted on an upgrade) now got XDAIIs. The bluetooth manager is aweful! Can't connect to my O2 headset, does't work well with TomTom3 and is generally crap!
Logged on to find out if anyone else is having trouble so please it's not just me, now all I need to do is find out how to fix it. I'm not a mega techie (but not too bad with the right support) and wondered if it's possible to use the bluetooth software from the XDA2?
Bluespoon AX
I have the same sort of combination Orange M2000 and Bluespoon AX and have the same nightmare sound quality - using Radio 1.04.00 and BT 3900. The AudioGW patch makes no difference (as posted above it's for headphone solutions).
Would be interested in the info you get back from Nextlink on the way to force the mode of the device if possible. Otherwise it's a complete waste of money as it crackles at both ends.
Nothing back from NextLink - have sent 2 emails. With radio 1.08 it sounds fine to me but the user on the other end reports it still quite bad. Gonna do 1.10 soon and see if that helps...
Rich
XDAIIs Bluetooth - upgrade to a Jabra 250
I had similar problems with my bluetooth Jabra 200 so I upgraded to a 250 (the black one) and I didn't have any further problems. The vibrating alert is really neat... 8)
bluespoon AX
while we're waiting for Nextlink's reply - can anyone advise me as to whether an upgrade to the Radio version (I'm only on 1.04) requires a hard reset (and full software re-build) or not? If not - are there instructions on another post that say how to do it??
Upgrading to radio ROM 1.08 or 1.10 may improve your BT performance significantly -- I updated my SX66 to 1.08 a couple weeks ago and my Bluetrek G2 headset now works much better.
Radio ROM upgrades do involve a hard reset & software re-install; this thread is devoted to the 1.10 upgrade -- there's another one in this forum for the 1.08.

XDA2i - bluetooth stuff - newbie question

Greetings folks ....as regards fiddling around with ROMs etc... I'm a total newbie at this ... but am willing to give it a shot ..... however am also in the lucky position of having an XDA2 and (recently upgraded to) XDA2i ....
Got a bluetooth fit in the car (AUDI UHV9649) which does nothing with the XDA2 (old MS BT stack so no handsfree :-( ) but does work with the XDA2i (Widcomm 1.0.0 build3900) ... for 3 minutes at a time .... but it then disconnects and reconnects EVERY 3 minutes ..... and doesnt do the SIM Access Profile ..... any ideas ?
So, this niggling problem has prompted me to see if there are newer and better BT setups out there that I can apply to the XDA2 and XDA2i ...
Hence my lurking on the forum ... and now 'coming out' !
From what I have gleaned from 3 days perusing the forums ......
There is a ROM upgrade to the XDA2i, but what improvements (if any) does this ROM1.11.162 Radio1.03 give over the ROM1.10.00 Radio1.0.0 - and is there better bluetooth functionality/stability ? What BT version is on this ?
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Also see that there is a patched WM2005 fit for the XDA2 on buzznet (Buzz Lightyear you have my respect sir 8) ) .......
How stable is this ? And can anyone say what BT version is on that ?
Appreciate any answers and look forward to starting to get my hands dirty ....
XDAIIi (Alpine) - Bluetooth Stack upgrade - how to?
Hi Captain
I see your post is getting old, but it's my first day lurking the forum and so far I haven't been able to work out how to upgrade my Bluetooth stack... Have you had any luck?
I need to upgrade mine for different reason - I've just bought AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset fooling my self that I will be able to use the headset for listening to mp3 music etc. as well as handsfree, but as it turns out the XDAIIi does not fully support the Advance Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) required to listen to high quality audio...
Even more confusing the spec on the O2 web site states that the XDAIIi supports A2DP.
Please anyone! How to upgrade the bluetooth stack? I would do it even to a hacked version that works with that headset....
Please share your experience...
Thanks!
On my device I have Bluetooth version 1.0.0 Build 3900 from Broadcom!
Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
Hi,
BIG THANX for the spot on info! This is exactly what I'm looking for I hope it should work for me too...
Can you confirm you've just installed this CAB on top of your existing Bluetooth software that comes with the XDAIIi (mine is Broadcom version 1.0.0 Build 3900)?
I was planning to buy the Motorola HT820, but I impulsively bought AnyCom BSH-100 because it's foldable... At least I can swap it now for Motorola if I can't get mine to work with this update!
A2DP on O2's website
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Yes I initially read about it here on these forums, but I didn't bookmark the thread. It was on the O2's web site I checked. Now I tried searching but couldn't find the thread... As far as I remember it was on www.my-xda.com
It is not on the web site anymore it appears they have taken it off, because people already had our problem and quoted the A2DP support...
Anyway, what's more interesting is that I spoke to O2 Data Support today again. The guy seemed quite apologetic and could not give me any resolution or promise future updates. What's more important he pointed me to these forums (XDA-Developers) for not supported solution to my problem. He confirmed that I can have A2DP support but refused to email me info because it is not officially supported by O2!
I'll post again with the result of this update I hope it makes my XDAIIi compatible with the AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset I bought, by adding the Advanced Audio Distribution Profile.
Re: Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
Dezigner said:
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
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BINGO! It works like a dream!
I can't believe it... As you said all I had to do is run this BT update (CAB file) and there it is - The A2DP was available in the Bluetooth Connection Wizard in Bluetooth Manager! I didn't even have to pair the headset again (after the install - I did soft reset just to stay on the safe side prior running BT Manager). I just run the wizard again with High Quality Audio selected it listed my headset (AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset) now I have 2 shortcuts on My Shortcuts tab one is Hands-free and the other High Quality Audio!
The install hasn't changed the BT stack version on my device - it appears the only visible effect is the extra profile to support A2DP.
Now I can listen to mp3 and watch movies, be on skype and of cause use it as hands-free too - ALL this on my XDAIIi
So far I'm very happy with the headset - it does everything it says on the box!
Exactly that just ran the cab file on the phone over the top of the standard O2 rom (bluetooth stack 3900).
The only part that doesn't work from the HT820 is the remote control functions for media player (meant to be able to do next/previous track play/pause) but sound quality is perfect (seems to drop a fraction on a second silence in every so often but there doesn't seem to be any pattern to it so don't know if its the headphones the xda or just bluetooth.
dear members
I downloaded the cab file in my M500 but that dont work.Infact my homescreen is not readeble any more (hard reset?).
Is there no other way to make it possible to use my bt headset with my m500?
thanx for replyíng.and sorry if this question is frequently asked?
Sjon
Yes hard reset will restore your original install you may also try a backup if you have one.
Please note this update will work if the Bluetooth stack on your device is from Broadcom. I think the M500 may have the Microsoft one...
see also this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30192&highlight=a2dp+bt
From experience this update works for the Broadcom BT stack.
I hope this helps...
Thank you.
I've read the post...I see now that there is no solution for my problem
Once again i was to fast for installing before reading.
best regards sjon
Dezigner said:
Exactly that just ran the cab file on the phone over the top of the standard O2 rom (bluetooth stack 3900).
The only part that doesn't work from the HT820 is the remote control functions for media player (meant to be able to do next/previous track play/pause) but sound quality is perfect (seems to drop a fraction on a second silence in every so often but there doesn't seem to be any pattern to it so don't know if its the headphones the xda or just bluetooth.
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I can confirm everything you say applies to my AnyCom BSH-100 headset too - remote functions do not work, I also experience the same brief drop of sound! I tried with ecrypted and non encrypted connection to the headset to make sure it's not the excyption that is causing the problem. Also tried different players - no luck. Must be the bluetooth implementation
Please let us know if you manage to resolve this problem!
Thanks
Emil
Sjon said:
dear members
I downloaded the cab file in my M500 but that dont work.Infact my homescreen is not readeble any more (hard reset?).
Is there no other way to make it possible to use my bt headset with my m500?
thanx for replyíng.and sorry if this question is frequently asked?
Sjon
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Yesterday I applied the same Bluetooth update to add A2DP support to MDAIII as sold from T-mobile UK!
I did experience the same problem with Todays screen! This is not a problem at all - Todays screen gets messed up because it appears that the install interferes with the current Theme!
All you have to do to fix it is reapply your existing Theme from Start --> Settings --> Today --> Select a theme for your device --> OK
Apart from this this update does add the following two Bluetooth profiles:
High Quality Audio
Bluetooth Keyboard
You can try again - No need for hard reset to restore your Todays Screen
Re: Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
EM1L said:
Dezigner said:
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BINGO! It works like a dream!
I can't believe it... As you said all I had to do is run this BT update (CAB file) and there it is - The A2DP was available in the Bluetooth Connection Wizard in Bluetooth Manager! I didn't even have to pair the headset again (after the install - I did soft reset just to stay on the safe side prior running BT Manager). I just run the wizard again with High Quality Audio selected it listed my headset (AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset) now I have 2 shortcuts on My Shortcuts tab one is Hands-free and the other High Quality Audio!
The install hasn't changed the BT stack version on my device - it appears the only visible effect is the extra profile to support A2DP.
Now I can listen to mp3 and watch movies, be on skype and of cause use it as hands-free too - ALL this on my XDAIIi
So far I'm very happy with the headset - it does everything it says on the box!
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Unfortunately the link does not work anymore. could you please post it again??
This would help me a lot.
THX
Bibifrine
Re: Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
Bibifrine said:
EM1L said:
Dezigner said:
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BINGO! It works like a dream!
I can't believe it... As you said all I had to do is run this BT update (CAB file) and there it is - The A2DP was available in the Bluetooth Connection Wizard in Bluetooth Manager! I didn't even have to pair the headset again (after the install - I did soft reset just to stay on the safe side prior running BT Manager). I just run the wizard again with High Quality Audio selected it listed my headset (AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset) now I have 2 shortcuts on My Shortcuts tab one is Hands-free and the other High Quality Audio!
The install hasn't changed the BT stack version on my device - it appears the only visible effect is the extra profile to support A2DP.
Now I can listen to mp3 and watch movies, be on skype and of cause use it as hands-free too - ALL this on my XDAIIi
So far I'm very happy with the headset - it does everything it says on the box!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately the link does not work anymore. could you please post it again??
This would help me a lot.
THX
Bibifrine
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Please note this is FTP (not HTTP :wink: ) link! You can use any FTP client to connect to the ftp host/server: ftp.xda-developers.com with user name and password xda then you browse to the directory (you can see the path in the link above) where the cab file is and download it!
Possible reason why the link may not work for you is because you are behind firewall where the FTP protocol is blocked! Also make sure you are ising Internet Explorer when clicking on the link. Interenet Explorer can work as ftp client when the link is in the above format and FTP protocol is not blocked by a firewall...
I hope that helps!
:lol:
Re: Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
EM1L said:
Dezigner said:
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BINGO! It works like a dream!
I can't believe it... As you said all I had to do is run this BT update (CAB file) and there it is - The A2DP was available in the Bluetooth Connection Wizard in Bluetooth Manager! I didn't even have to pair the headset again (after the install - I did soft reset just to stay on the safe side prior running BT Manager). I just run the wizard again with High Quality Audio selected it listed my headset (AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset) now I have 2 shortcuts on My Shortcuts tab one is Hands-free and the other High Quality Audio!
The install hasn't changed the BT stack version on my device - it appears the only visible effect is the extra profile to support A2DP.
Now I can listen to mp3 and watch movies, be on skype and of cause use it as hands-free too - ALL this on my XDAIIi
So far I'm very happy with the headset - it does everything it says on the box!
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Great so will this work on my xda2
dont know how this could happen, Im not usually playing with bluetooth but today when I ON the bluetooth. I will get this message
"Sorry! Bluetooth can no longer be used because the licence is expired"
"BDA ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: Key:E3E534E19B3E8214C543A73C0A8B9A9074DD3B1753515CD8"
after that, bluetooth will off automatically.
and idea's ????
thanks
motorola 820 / remote
Did anyone find a solution for the remote problem with the motorola 820?
I am having problem to pair my XDA IIi with my BMW bluetooth and Accura MDX bluetooth. The XDA just simpy rejects to pair with BMW bluetooth. The XDA found the Accura MDX bluetooth, but when I try to make a call, XDA gives me error message "invalid command".
Will the upgrad fix my problem?
Thanks!
Re: Extra bluetooth profiles for XDA2i (Alpine)
EM1L said:
Dezigner said:
Hi,
I downloaded the following:
ftp://xda:[email protected] 3500/Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
And installed it on my XDA2i and all was well (I copied the cab file to my XDA and ran it from there)
Adds a few extra profiles to your bluetooth manager including "High quality audio"
Hope that helps! (Works for my Motorola HT820 headphones)
Out of interest where abouts does it mention A2DP on O2's website?, I'd love to be able to quote it back to them in an argument I'm currently having with them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BINGO! It works like a dream!
I can't believe it... As you said all I had to do is run this BT update (CAB file) and there it is - The A2DP was available in the Bluetooth Connection Wizard in Bluetooth Manager! I didn't even have to pair the headset again (after the install - I did soft reset just to stay on the safe side prior running BT Manager). I just run the wizard again with High Quality Audio selected it listed my headset (AnyCom BSH-100 Bluetooth Stereo Headset) now I have 2 shortcuts on My Shortcuts tab one is Hands-free and the other High Quality Audio!
The install hasn't changed the BT stack version on my device - it appears the only visible effect is the extra profile to support A2DP.
Now I can listen to mp3 and watch movies, be on skype and of cause use it as hands-free too - ALL this on my XDAIIi
So far I'm very happy with the headset - it does everything it says on the box!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
this helped me a lot, but still having some problems, i have troubles with answering calles when playing some mp3 .. also noticed that if I use windows media player it takes about 5 sekoneds to noticed incoming phone (but the phone that is making call is already noticing call, while XDAIII still playing songs)
had you any such a troubles?
thanks
Please, help. Can not end a call using HT820's buttons. This is important. Handsfree switches off, but connection with abonent still on... What's the scary thing.
Re: XDAIIi (Alpine) - Bluetooth Stack upgrade - how to?
EM1L said:
On my device I have Bluetooth version 1.0.0 Build 3900 from Broadcom!
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Hi, How can I know my BT version on my xda II qtek 2020?
thanks
I have:
ROM version : 2.20.07CHS
ROM date: 09/17/04
Radio Version: 1.18.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtRom version: it´s empty

Kaiser & EGO Look carkit

Hey all,
I've searched on Google & xda-developers forum for a while, but couldn't find anything on this. I've got an EGO Look carkit (http://www.egohandsfree.com/ego-look.html). This carkit has the ability to read messages from a phone over bluetooth, at least that what's stated in the specs of the carkit. I also see this option in the menu of the carkit, but its disabled. This leads me to the conclusion that the carkit thinks that my phone doesn't have the right bluetooth-options. I also tried it with a Samsung D600 & Samsung D900, but that didn't show the messages-option enabled either.
I updated the carkit to the most recent firmware, and am running RomeOS V3.1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406346) on radio 1.65.24.35. I have enabled Remote SIM Access in the bluetooth settings, but to no avail.
Is there anybody that has had a similar problem/feature in their carkit, that have this feature working? If not, can anybody tell me what bluetooth-profile is needed for this functionality?
Thanks in advance,
hawkeye

Enable A2DP and/or headset profile for Tilt...

Hello everyone...sorry for bothering, but I'm so frustrated that I'm about to scream...I really need some help here.
I have an AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) running their standard ROM. I just bought a Motorola H780 bluetooth headset for it. The salesperson said that he knew of some people who connected this model to their Tilts and was able to listen to music through it...and even on earpiece box it says that the H780 supports both the Hands Free and Headset profiles. However, I have not been able to accomplish this: it pairs for normal use (phone calls, etc), but nothing else. The "wireless headset" option is greyed out for me; the earpiece only gives me the option to connect using "Hands Free" profile.
I have looked...and looked...and looked for how to do this. The best I found from Google was for people who have Windows Mobile 5 (I have 6)...and even so, I tried a couple of those registry tweaks. On here, I keep running into countless forums that tell you, not how to enable A2DP, but how to improve it (using modified bitpool value in the registry, etc). Can SOMEBODY PLEASE tell me how in the world to get this working? I would really appreciate it...THANKS!
Well this is how i do it. I downloaded this http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
that is the page then you get a2dp toggle
and then when my bluetooth is on the the headset is on i then go to this program and double click it and it puts another icon by the bluetooth icon and i get sound that way for my music and also calls still come threw too. I am not saying this is the right way but it works great for me...
bluetooth toggle
bluetooth toggle turns on the headset (single ear normal everyday talking sets) like a speakerphone.
all audio will get directed to it, im, e-mail, meeting announcements.
I had a sony headset model, with 12 talk time, nice because it will eat your battery while on ( tilt and headsets rated for talktime will apply to this ) . my plantronics only does 4 hours, so at lunch or when not in use I charge it and phone via usb cable.
I am in IT and most peaple are ok with me wearing bt headset (plantronics 655) and write me off on the gadget side when I wear it 24/7. In reality I listen to music (10% volume on audiomanager) all day (literally) from my 8 gig card.
I have streaming and resco radio, and podcasts. Mostly I converted my common mp3s to wma to have more on the phone and high audio cd quality is not to be expected over bluetooth. The right rom and radio are very helpful and the ability to tun off screen but still play music are all important or battery will suffer even more. using the stock rom and radio will work, just not a good balance team.
duttys roms and a few others had it included btw. I found a way to use audiomanager 1.2 on the new roms with 1 registry setting change to allow suspend mode.
I use a very simple version of it. I attached it because, I searched a bit to find a link, (still recommended for education on the subject) but didn't find it or in the chefs and mods downloads either.
Thanks to both of you for your responses! I appreciate someone taking the time out to help.
Blinkste21957, I tried your solution and it didn't work...for some reason, it saw my headset as being "unusable" (my term) with regards to headset mode. I don't quite know why; my headset clearly says on the box that it is. (Motorola H780). This is why I think that there must be something missing on my phone that will enable the "headset" option for my earpiece.
Acehole, I tried your solution a while back...but it was with the 8525, not the tilt, and with my (previous) plantronics headset. I was less-than-impressed with the problems I had to deal with last time...but I could give it a whirl again with this phone/headset and see what happens.
If anyone knows of anything else I'm missing in terms of "activating" the headset capabilities of my phone (which I thought was supposed to have A2DP), let me know. I'm just very puzzled why, for an earpiece that supports headset mode, my phone would have that option unavailable.
Actually, I think that it is the phone and not the headset. When I had a nokia I was able to listen to music via my bluetooth with no issues. The tilt will not allow you to do this without the use of a third party application. The following is what many people have used and are using as a work around. BTAudio, BlueMusic, A2DPToggle. Tech soft makes BlueMusic and the A2DPToggle and can be found here: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=products. Unless one of the bright developers here on XDA takes this on, I fear that it will never truly be resolved.
Thanks ACEHOLE.. I was struggling with my iMate.
Someone on here recommended the Sony DR-BT22 some time ago. I bought a pair and they link up and sound is impressive on the Tilt with Windows 6.1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8458466&st=bluetooth&type=product&id=1184369168158
I can also control forward and reverse functions of the player with them too.
Bluetooth - especially compatibility - is still one temperamental beast! My car's built-in hand-free made me and the poor guy from AT&T a believer. They can plaster A2DP, HSF, HDP, ESP, JMDP, whatever on the box and it it means squat as to whether it will work or not. Only ones that do are manufacturer-to-manufacturer....sometimes.
Mack
If you have WM 6.1, and if you have a headset with the A2DP profile (NOTE this is not the same as the "headset" profile) then you can listen to music without any problem. If you don't have both, then you need to mess with the software add-ons mentioned earlier in this thread .
As for me, I got the excellent Jabra BT8040 and it works great with My Kaiser with stock 6.1. Only about $30 too.

Put Microsoft Bluetooth Stack back into Touch Pro2?

I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
I had this issue and moved to NRG's Genesis 6.5 rom. everything works fine.
I have not seen a 6.1 rom that works tho.
My TMoUS TP2 works perfect with my Motorola S9's when using the MSVC that came on the stock ROM.
S
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
I wanted to do this, for my own as well. I think the problem we're facing is... drivers. The phone has a slightly different bt/wifi/radio module, therefore required the broadcom drivers. I'll look into making it work with the MS BT stack though... although I'm not too optimistic.
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
asango said:
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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ruinertt said:
What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
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I am using a JVC deck and it connects great. Sound quality is a bit better than from my Wing; my only problem is that when I disconnect from the call it takes my TP2 2-3 minutes to show that the call is actually ended, it runs slower than molases like I have 50 programs running and all trying to access the internet and downloading large files. After the 2-3 minutes the phone has returned to normal like nothing was wrong. I am thinking of flashing to one of the good looking 6.5 roms that our wonderful chefs have cooked up for us, but I cant decide which one to try first!
asango said:
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
mastermarv said:
No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
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The point is that I want to be able to use the wireless BT headset with all the audio sources on the device. This would only be logical.
Having to use the wired headset as antenna is of course the other annoying thing in the hardware design of this device (since I think HTC should also have been able to get FM reception with a built in antenna or even the phone frame. Don't know why they have not done this in order to at least allow using the radio in situations where one has got no headset at hand, especially with the TP2, which has got no 3.5mm jack)
But apart from this issue still the only consequent thing would be to be able to use all audio sources with the attached wireless headset. That's what is it for...
pimppoet said:
In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
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Yes, this first seemed to be an option to me also, but on my TP2 if I open the btfm.exe I get absolutely no sound, no matter which speaker setting in the software. Not on the wired headphone, not on the internal speaker and also not on the BT headset, even though it is successfully attached with the stereo profile.
Have tried this with several ROMs, always the same problem: No output at all.
And on some it even won't start (error message Unable to extract skin template)
But since HTC has included this exe in the ROM but has not put a link in the start menu I think they know about this lack of functionality, but have not solved it.
Does anyone know more about btfm.exe and a way to get it working?
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
Cyberon speed voice dial
Please need help to activate CSVD over BT in TP2
gompf said:
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
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I feel your pain. I miss having JetwareMobile to help interface with my car's head unit.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Check out this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562161
it appears to do what you want.
Yes, and also the latest of NRGZ28's ROMs does have the BT triggered VC:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Seems like realls HTC has managed to get back this functionality into the latest BT stack version, even though there seem to be some bugs still in conjunction with the current V 1.6.21040 as I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4578993&postcount=30
Hi everyone, I have a similar question related to the Microsoft bluetooth stack. I have an ATT Tilt2 (stock ROM still) and have downloaded the Office 2010 beta programs from the Marketplace. A new feature (at least I think it is new) is the Presentation Companion for PowerPoint which allows you to control a PowerPoint presentation using your phone.
When I try to set up the Presentation Companion, however, it gives me a message about not being able to find any bluetooth devices. The instructions from Microsoft say that you must have the Microsoft bluetooth stack installed on the phone and the computer you want to control to get this functionality. I never get to the point of connecting to my computer so I figure it must be the phone.
Has anyone else had similar issues or tried the Presentation Companion? I tried applying the .CAB update listed earlier in this thread but it did not help.
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
monkeyboy0076 said:
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
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I have a Pioneer AVIC-D3 and have no issues with playback (or the controls) using the BT stack in the Rhodium. This, of course, was tested with Windows Media Player. I can do forward, reverse, pause, stop, play, etc.

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