T-Mobile Wing radio performance - Wing, P4350 Herald Upgrading

I am the not so proud owner of a Wizard but have the opportunity of moving to a Wing. I love my wizard with the exception of the radio performance, poor reception, missed calls and vanishing text messages which are all part of the deal. So those of you who have a Wing, is the radio any good?

Radio is slightly better than the MDA, IMO. BT radio is definitely better. WM6 is sweet, and stable.... speed and battery are fine overclocked at 247. The BT stack is waaaay better for A2DP.
The big problem is program memory... something around 15MB before plug-ins, and with a medium-bad leak. No one has real good answers yet, and we are all DESPARATELY waiting for custom ROMS! In the meantime, I've recommended using Oxios to clear memory as often as possible, and soft resets at least once a day.
It's really a great device, except for the memory problem. If you do get one, make sure to check at HoFo as to the best purchase deal.
-Richard

Well, the reason why you're missing so many calls is because your Radio is 2.61. That for whatever reason, that "improved" radio sucks in Southern California. If I remember correctly, that was a German radio. The Wing has an upgraded radio, but I haven't tried it in areas I know are sketchy. But all in all, except for the huge loss of RAM due to God only knows (I don't run My Favs) it seems to be a pretty stable phone, but I've only had it for less than a week.

Thanks falconeyez, I have actually been running 2.69 for the past few days but it is as bad or worse than 2.61. I have jsut downloaded 2.40 from the FTP to try that but I have just about given up hope of any radio rom working in the Wizard. If the Wing has a suitable replacement then I will make the change as the rest of the phone appears to be the same as a Wizard

jt_armstrong said:
Thanks falconeyez, I have actually been running 2.69 for the past few days but it is as bad or worse than 2.61. I have jsut downloaded 2.40 from the FTP to try that but I have just about given up hope of any radio rom working in the Wizard. If the Wing has a suitable replacement then I will make the change as the rest of the phone appears to be the same as a Wizard
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No problem, that's what the boards are for. When I was using the wizard I kept my radio at 2.25 (2.26?) and that consistently gave me the best results.

rpodos said:
Radio is slightly better than the MDA, IMO. BT radio is definitely better. WM6 is sweet, and stable.... speed and battery are fine overclocked at 247. The BT stack is waaaay better for A2DP.
The big problem is program memory... something around 15MB before plug-ins, and with a medium-bad leak. No one has real good answers yet, and we are all DESPARATELY waiting for custom ROMS! In the meantime, I've recommended using Oxios to clear memory as often as possible, and soft resets at least once a day.
It's really a great device, except for the memory problem. If you do get one, make sure to check at HoFo as to the best purchase deal.
-Richard
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/agree 100% with everything said here.
As a result I've been playing with customizing my own rom (removing programs adding in - etc) and what I've come up with is a cross between the Touch and the Iphone - I use the iLock and the iContacts, and all of the other themes and apps from the Touch as posted in the Touch for Wizard thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225)
Now my problem is: I want to remove the annoying taskbar that holds the battery status (OEM) and etc on the bottom because I do not need it anymore. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

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Upgrade 1.42 and ext. rom problem

I upgraded my device to 1.42 eng. but after finished, extended rom files are not installing, device is stopping . Then when i try to install them manuel not working can somene help me
I tested the 1.42 NL version and it worked pretty much ok. Try maybe to upgrade again. I have the Pda2k and I am back to the I-mate 1.40 firmware. I think something went wrong when you updated. Just do it again - it should work.
Posting from the PDA2K.
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why did you go back to 1.40 from 1.42?
obiesoft:
I didn't like the T-mobile ExtRom and I didn't know how to write to it at the moment.
Also, I thought that the phone app is a bit slow (and I hated the flat skin).
Meanwhile, I got the xdatools and I edited the extrom.
The I-Mate extrom has the autosetup, no config.txt needed. It works pretty well with the 1.13 radio.
Though, I have some problems with the BT and a Motorola HS805 headset. It's crackling all the time. But I think that there's no solution for this problem.
RELOAD, have you flashed again? Did you solve the problem?
1.42
I apologize for not replying earlier. I switched from WM5 to the 1.42 Rom and i like it so far. It is so much faster and responsive compared to WM5, keyboard works well and bluetooth is ok. I also get the Crackling noise, i use HBH 300. I have been seeing threads about an I mate Bluetooth fix but all the links to it are broken, so i guess that is what we need now. Until i test it, i will not know. I understand what you mean by the flat look, WM5 looks better but it is not as good as WM2003 for regular use, as for looks, just switch up themse.
obiesoft
I'm sorry for the delayed answer, but I'm not always on the forums...
I only heard about an I-mate patch, but if you mean this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14277, it's old (2004) and I've seen only a few people asking for the files.
I am now running the i-mate last rom with 1.13 radio and BT 3900. The extended rom contains a cab called BTsearchTime.sa.cab.
I'm not sure about it does, but I'm sure that it's already posted on the forums or on the ftp .
About WM5, I read many threads where people complaint about the speed. I decided not to try it, instead I set my HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Cachesize to 4096, and I installed all the programs in the storage card (1 GB).
The performance was really boosted, at the expense of 4 MB of memory, but I have plenty of it, because I don't have to share too much with the storage.
I also use SPBPocketPlus 3, but just for the Closing App, Safe Mode, and rotation shortcuts. Otherwise, SPB Plus makes the PDA unusable - it consumes many resources. Pocket Hack master provides me the overclok/underclok possibilities, so, if I use the BA only as a phone, I keep it at 199 MHz.
Moderator: I'm not sure if this fits here, but... please don't kill me!

ROM question to all GURUs here

Which combination of ROM, Radio and BTstack You find the most stable, reliable and low energy consuming.
I don't think I'm satisfied with the sombination I have...
Robert
Belcik said:
Which combination of ROM, Radio and BTstack You find the most stable, reliable and low energy consuming.
I don't think I'm satisfied with the sombination I have...
Robert
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WM5: TuMa 1.3 (MS BT Stack) with radio 1.15.
In terms of WM2003SE: Orange 1.31, BT3500 and radio 1.15.
All respect to KTamas (551 posts don't write themselves), but I have to disagree. From what I've seen, radio 1.15 has problems with dropping calls and slow response from the phone application. Midget_1990 suggested I downgrade from 1.15 to 1.13 and I've seen a marked improvement since.
Likewise TuMa1.3, while a huge achievement from its author Tuatara, is now outdated by Logout and Ivan's latest ROMs. Both of them are faster and more stable than TuMa 1.3.
Logout is based on the fast, but flawed TuMa 1.4, with a lot of fixes. It's really good at multimedia - I get the best framerate in pocket media player with this ROM, but it seems to self-destruct after 2 weeks of heavy use. I've had to rebuild it after some pretty strange situations where the camera suddenly stopped working, phone app refused to launch, and the messaging app went crazy, opening and closing windows until killed manually.
TuMa 1.5 remains everyone's great hope for the perfect WM5 ROM, but it's not in a state to be released yet. In the meanwhile I use Ivan v4r3. It gives the fastest UI response, but it plays movie files less well than Logout. Above all, it's very stable if treated with care - usually needs rebuilding once a month or so.
Is the periodic rebuilding required on all WM5 roms? I know the windows xp "half-life" is about 18 months (if you look after it!), but I didn't realise that the phones picked up as much cruft as well.
i find between 2-8 weeks depending on what rom i'm running, note though that this is not just WM5, i also had to do this often in 2003se to keep the speed how it should be.
thingonaspring said:
All respect to KTamas (551 posts don't write themselves), but I have to disagree. From what I've seen, radio 1.15 has problems with dropping calls and slow response from the phone application. Midget_1990 suggested I downgrade from 1.15 to 1.13 and I've seen a marked improvement since.
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I thought that this could be a problem... I think about downgrading Radio to 1.13.
And what about ROM? Orange 1.31 is the only suggestion? Any other voices? If not, I think the only option will be to put into my baby that ROM...
Greets,
Robert
keep the 1.42 os rom, cook your own extrom, or leave as is, and use 1.13 radio. best wm2003se combi IMHO
Radio 1.13 is not as loud as 1.15.
If you use Bluetooth Headset,your friends will not hear your voice.
I've tried it with 3 Bluetooths.
But with 1.15,the volume is loud and clear.
8)
I'm planning to buy BT headset. So far 1.13 is good enough.

MDA about to be fish food

Wondering if someone could assist me in finding a good rom that would fit my needs. I have been using a wm6 rom that was cooked about 5 months ago. Unfortantly it has started to do some wierd things. Lately my SD card hasnt worked. My headset only works when i listen to music and now sometimes i have to take out the battery to end a call. Im using this on the At&t ,formally cingular, network. I would like a rom that has the mms and media net already configured since i have had nothing but problems trying to get this to work when i have to do it manually. I have installed a vanilla wm6 rom and having some problems. Seems a little sluggish and also my mms is not working. I dont need anything fancy just something that is reliable. Im sorry for a noob post but im about to throw this phone into the pond and just suck it up and get a 8525.
prophit40 said:
Wondering if someone could assist me in finding a good rom that would fit my needs. I have been using a wm6 rom that was cooked about 5 months ago. Unfortantly it has started to do some wierd things. Lately my SD card hasnt worked. My headset only works when i listen to music and now sometimes i have to take out the battery to end a call. Im using this on the At&t ,formally cingular, network. I would like a rom that has the mms and media net already configured since i have had nothing but problems trying to get this to work when i have to do it manually. I have installed a vanilla wm6 rom and having some problems. Seems a little sluggish and also my mms is not working. I dont need anything fancy just something that is reliable. Im sorry for a noob post but im about to throw this phone into the pond and just suck it up and get a 8525.
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Take note that following comment expresses personal opinion and others may differ...
The best ROM i've tested so far is TNT5.0 which is made by its right. It's stable and SO, and i mean SO SO, fast that you don't need to overclock to have apps open immediately amongst other. I think he's now releasing new ROMs (1437 based) which must be an improvement.
But the best you can do is go to WM6 section and get amazed with the amount of good ROMs being released there.
cheers
mestrini said:
Take note that following comment expresses personal opinion and others may differ...
The best ROM i've tested so far is TNT5.0 which is made by its right. It's stable and SO, and i mean SO SO, fast that you don't need to overclock to have apps open immediately amongst other. I think he's now releasing new ROMs (1437 based) which must be an improvement.
But the best you can do is go to WM6 section and get amazed with the amount of good ROMs being released there.
cheers
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mestrini is absolutely right man,if ur not satisfied with ur device performance than upgrade to latest cooked roms. I must say the are all charmers.Specially TNT5.0 and now its right has launched yet another latest thriller and a gem of a Rom TNT Professional + HTC Home ver 1437.
Just flash it and u'll never regrette again,
Follow the link below:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332544
well after my little whinning session lastnight, i found a wm5 rom that looks just like wm6. Install went fine so far. I think most of my problems with this phone is the hardware is slowing going out. my headphones still dont work for making calls but work fine with the media player. Makes no since but ok whatever. Also the SD port has always been tricky for me. But so far this rom rocks. Seems to be all the nice screens of wm6 just with a wm5 base. Also the best part was the network wizard. Man that util is a life saver. Did all my media net and mms configs for me. Works like a charm. Did some customizing and so far its working good. Im going to be actually taking apart the phone in the next couple days to see if there is something that can be done about the headphones thing. I might just have to suck it up and get a BT headset. Anyways thanks for the input. I have downloaded tnt5 just in case this rom doesnt fit my needs.
prophit40 said:
well after my little whinning session lastnight, i found a wm5 rom that looks just like wm6. Install went fine so far. I think most of my problems with this phone is the hardware is slowing going out. my headphones still dont work for making calls but work fine with the media player. Makes no since but ok whatever. Also the SD port has always been tricky for me. But so far this rom rocks. Seems to be all the nice screens of wm6 just with a wm5 base. Also the best part was the network wizard. Man that util is a life saver. Did all my media net and mms configs for me. Works like a charm. Did some customizing and so far its working good. Im going to be actually taking apart the phone in the next couple days to see if there is something that can be done about the headphones thing. I might just have to suck it up and get a BT headset. Anyways thanks for the input. I have downloaded tnt5 just in case this rom doesnt fit my needs.
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Glade to hear that,atleast ur now over with ur whinning and satisfied with the new upgrade.Nice
go for the TNT5.0,u'll be amazed with it's performance,btw, 'its right' the coker of TNT5.0 has yet launched another marvelous Rom 'Professional HTC Home',I'll suggest try that out,too
But if prefer plain vanilla rom without much fancy stuff,try new vanilla rom by Antc,its based on the latest rom base:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333242
cheers

looking for former Trinity owners

just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
racerx_ said:
just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
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I will take the Kaiser anytime over the trinity, save the bug of the bulk updates on the GPS system.
Just using the stock ROM and add on the softwares that I need, and its great.
The response is faster than the trinity.
The GPS system is definitely a lot faster. Can get fix almost immediate.
Not sure about the peeling off issue will happen to Kaiser. Just got mine for few days.
racerx_ said:
just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
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Hello my friend, I have changed to HTC Tytn II, and man what a big change, loving the new one and not even missing the trinity a bit, the Kaiser is for sure a keeper, its a show piece, high quality material finish, no peeling issues, keyboard with a lovely tilt, GPS is outstanding; by the time you start the nav app your gps is fixed , and not forgetting the big space in both ram and rom, I do recommend the Kaiser to everybody, and would always look forward to see a Kasierguides.info by racerx_
Yep - I was a Trinity owner and for me , I got really frustrated at not having a proper keyboard - solved with the Kaiser!!!
Plus it has a lot more memory available, especially with a cooked ROM..
Cheers
John
I also upgraded my Trinity to Kaiser, and I fully agree with taiseer999.
He forgot to mention the Trinity MiniSD issue with disappearing files and stuff. the Kaiser dont have this issue at all.
The down side for me in compare to the Trinity is the size and the weight, and also the BT Headset sound. but other than that, all perfect for me.
helllo....
i'm using trinity before i get brand new htc tytn II.For me,htc tytn II is better than trinity in all department.Because of that i sold my trinity.
For Iphone i had too for a week,but i cant compare those two devices because there build for different purpose and differrent os,but the two of devices is good.....
cheers
Kaiser feel very solid when compared to trinity. But the weight difference is quite big. But love every moment with it. GPS connection is definitely faster. Haven't tried cook rom yet since the ROM/RAM size is double of trinity.
Keyboard is good but with new software keyboard like touchpal. Hardware keyboard is no longer a necessity.
thanks everybody for the feedback.. very helpful. Sounds like no one's looking back...
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Hello my friend, I have changed to HTC Tytn II, and man what a big change, loving the new one and not even missing the trinity a bit, the Kaiser is for sure a keeper, its a show piece, high quality material finish, no peeling issues, keyboard with a lovely tilt, GPS is outstanding; by the time you start the nav app your gps is fixed , and not forgetting the big space in both ram and rom, I do recommend the Kaiser to everybody, and would always look forward to see a Kasierguides.info by racerx_
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hey... taiseer.. didn't know you'd jumped over to Kaiser-land!! haha.. well, you're definitely making me think of getting one.. not sure about the weight, but otherwise maybe it's the phone for me.. we'll see about kaiserguides.info haha.. but we need 1) me to get a kaiser and 2) a lot of good chefs and yummy roms..
will update you.. guess i can sell the iphone and the trinity and snag one..
what was that mentioned in an earlier message about GPS batch updates? i didn't follow that..
racerx_ said:
what was that mentioned in an earlier message about GPS batch updates? i didn't follow that..
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the GPS stream does not come in smoothly like the trinity, but instead, it comes in bursts every 8 seconds or so.
The updates on voice navigation is therefore somewhat delayed at times.
Sometimes, it can tell me to exit at the intersection ahead, where I have already passed it.
This is with the bundled R12 Mapking (for asia), and Mapking 2007 (retail).
hangyong said:
the GPS stream does not come in smoothly like the trinity, but instead, it comes in bursts every 8 seconds or so.
The updates on voice navigation is therefore somewhat delayed at times.
Sometimes, it can tell me to exit at the intersection ahead, where I have already passed it.
This is with the bundled R12 Mapking (for asia), and Mapking 2007 (retail).
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There is a software update for R12:
http://mapking.com.sg/download/MapKing R12/TyTn II/TytnII_Setup_MapKingR12.zip
For MapKing 2007, you can use GPSproxy + Mapking to improve the refresh rate.
shihyong said:
There is a software update for R12:
http://mapking.com.sg/download/MapKing R12/TyTn II/TytnII_Setup_MapKingR12.zip
For MapKing 2007, you can use GPSproxy + Mapking to improve the refresh rate.
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well, HTC Asia has confirmed that its a bug, so they should solve the problem, although there are workarounds.
Until that happens, its still a bug in their ROM.
hangyong said:
well, HTC Asia has confirmed that its a bug, so they should solve the problem, although there are workarounds.
Until that happens, its still a bug in their ROM.
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MapKing R12 has already solved the slow refresh rate issue with their latest update.
i've been wondering.. what's the difference between R12 and 2007? i use mapking 2007 and am pretty happy with it...
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MapKing R12 has already solved the slow refresh rate issue with their latest update.
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you see, using the R12 that comes with Kaiser in the Trinity, there is absolutely no problems at all.
Using the same version of MK2007 on Trinity, there is no problems at all as well.
From what I can comprehend, its the GPS multiplexing software that is causing the problem in the Kaiser.
The R12 fix you are talking about most probably reroutes the signal by bypassing the multiplexer, directly to the GPS COM port.
This way, if you have 2 GPS softwares running at the same time, the 2nd software cannot work. e.g. R12, and GPS photo.
But anyway, since HTC has acknowledged that its a bug, I guess its good to let all know.
sorry this is still confusing me. Is there a problem with gps bursts or not? I thought you said there was, now saying there's not??
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sorry this is still confusing me. Is there a problem with gps bursts or not? I thought you said there was, now saying there's not??
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the GPS signal/stream comes in bursts every 7-8 seconds, unlike in trinity, where its updated frequently.
Since you are using MK2007, you should see that the GPS stream is updated smoothly in it.
what this cause is that your location is updated whenever the burst comes in.
So if you are driving, and it tell yous to "exit at the intersection ahead", you may have already passed it.
I used the EXACT same copy of MK2007 on both trinity and Kaiser.
Trinity ok, Kaiser NG (bursts)
Using the EXACT same copy of MKR12 from Kaiser on trinity, its ok, but when you install it on Kaiser, you get the bursts... and you need to use the updated version on the Kaiser to workaround this issue.
Matrix:
------------MK2007-------MKR12------
Kaiser -------NG------------NG-------|
Trinity-------OK------------OK-------|
So to me, its a problem, and HTC acknowledged that its a bug.

How to tweak to the maximum the Kaiser GPS?

Hello there,
I bought a week ago a second hand kaiser, and i noticed that it already had the hyper dragon IV lite rom flashed, so i told myself, all the hard work is done, go try some custom roms.
And I did, there was some lite ones, some plenty of softwares, some 6.5, but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
So, in order to be a more independant guy, i searched, and i searched again, i found some useful threads that made my gps work (because it almost wasn't working i bought it), and some others that made GPSTest display high bars on gps detecting but no fix at all (it also screwed my signal, and fu**** up my camera, and that's bad), all that by changing radio roms and trying.
And well i am very tired of trying again and again, feel just like if i was stuck in the middle of nowhere.
So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
I'm living at Brussel in belgium, living in the 5th floor, and testing my gps close to window, or i go to a parc 10 minutes away from home.
I am ready to try almost everything that can guis ALL of US to have a better GPS!
This works for me.
neolander said:
but the thing i want from this phone is: THE GPS and the MP3 player, thos are the most important things for me, since i am all the time moving here and there, i really need them.
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I can relate to that as they are both near the top of my priority list too.
<long tales of perserverance snipped>
So, my questions:
Does the gps really work better on 6.0wm than the 6.1 and 6.5?
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In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
Does the gps really work better on stock roms than cooked ones?
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I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
Does the quickgps software really improve the speed to get a FIX?
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As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
How long are the bars your devices display when you activate your GPSTest soft? (i'm having a quarter max, and when i say a quarter, it is really the down limit of the quarter, it rarely go upper)
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I don't (need to) use that software as GPS performs fine without it on my setup.
I have a tomtom 7.450 soft, and this thing is all the time saying bad gps reception (sometimes it even end up screaming no gps harware), is it normal?
So what software do you use for navigation?
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I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
I really don't care about cooked roms optimisations, fast and everything and all that, i want to be able to answer and emit calls, receive and send SMS, write some notes from time to time, and make GPS working great, wanna have a super fast fix.
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Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
Flying Kiwi said:
In my experience solely with Official HTC ROMs (which don't include WM 6.5 of course) yes - and by a longggg shot.
I've heard it does but they'd have to do pretty well to surpass the GPS performance and simplicity I'm getting from my current setup.
As I charge my TyTN II by putting it to bed in its cradle every night (which is connected via USB to my PC on the internet), it automatically updates its QuickGPS data so it's hardly ever more than a day old any way. Often times during a day while I've got an active data connection I'll also manually initiate a QuickGPS download. Interestingly, the HTC Official WM 6.1 'update' for my TyTN II broke this feature and QuickGPS wouldn't automatically update when plugged into its cradle - even manual updates didn't make a difference though as far as WM 6.1 was concerned.
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Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
Flying Kiwi said:
I have version 6.032 which came with my HTC Branded TyTN II on an accompanying CDROM. It's still avail for purchase although for some crazy reason TomTom wont sell version 7 or even an upgrade to it so there's no official way to buy it except for on the devices it comes with. If you get hold of version 6 from TomTom on a device kitted out as per mine, it will work and work well - unless you have lead lined walls and heat reflective film on your windows in which case you'll only get good performance outside.
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Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
I dont have any film on my windows
Flying Kiwi said:
Similar priorities to me, the only true speed/performance related area I find important is GPS, reliability is the next preference and thats where the Radio version I'm using comes into things. I found that although 1.27.12.11 gave quick GPS fixes, sometimes when Pocket Media Player was playing a music or video file, it'd stall its playback while waiting for TomTom to get a fix. Radio version 1.27.12.32 fixes this and also gives quick GPS fixes. I have tried even newer radios (2 versions of 1.27.15.32) but alas as is with the case of many of the newer offerings, that was a step backwards in terms of GPS performance (at least here in the UK (/Europe?).
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Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
Flying Kiwi said:
There is a section in the xda-dev wiki all about improving GPS performance if you haven't already found it.
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Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
tilt8925kaiser said:
I had tomtom 7 and the gps fix in that software was horrible for me. Even when google maps and gpstest had a good fix, tomtom would say "bad signal" or "no signal. I switched to igo which locks in after a minute and works perfectly. The other problem that could be affecting you might be the radio version. I had one radio that would make my GPS useless; it would never connect. Try changing your radios and see if that helps.
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I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
And like a i said i'll give Igo a shot too
Thank you for your interest, thanks for answering me
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Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
More than enough to go on
neolander said:
Okay, i'll try to find a stock 6.0 rom and give it a shot, do i have to flash a stock radio rom (even if don't understand how we could modify radio roms...)
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I don't understand what you're getting at. The precise setup in my signature works really well for GPS. If you flash all those components and aren't to far away from the UK, I imagine it'll work well for you - there's no harm in trying.
Well, seems that the guy who sold it to me cracked it, i'll give him a call, and may be switch to Igo or an old version of tomtom
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The map for my 'old' version of TomTom was on special offer (Western Europe 6.75) so you may well pick up a bargain.
I dont have any film on my windows
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I was just kidding about lead lined walls and metalised film covered windows (although many new cars these days have metalised windscreens, so if it doesn't work in your car that may be why).
Just tried this two, and i have no sound on the phone while calling, and no camera (screen remain black)
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Thats because you've not read the relevant ROM Flashing wiki's and stickies enough to know that you must use a WM 6.0 Radio with a WM 6.0 ROM. I suggest you spend more time revising things in this area as it WILL be time well spent and you'll learn more about your device.
Euh, which one? I seen so many articles and articles that i'm not sure if i seen it
Edit: are ou talking about this one? :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373107
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Thats one of the links in the relavant section have a look at the TomTom Section around two thirds down the Kaiser wiki
I tried so much radios, i don't know what to try again ? I even tried some of the polaris radios ...
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Well you needent. All the details of what works best (as far as stock components go) are in my sig and as Belgium isn't far from the UK, I cant see why it shouldn't work well for you also
Just flashed back to ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
Radio: 1.27.12.32
But gpstest cannot find the gps, and it stucks on com5 while scanning
And when i close GPSTest i cant launch it again
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You did read the part in the wiki about making sure you have a WM 6.0 compatible SPL version didn't you (SPL questions? section covers it well). Again, you need ALL the bits in my sig (note that I don't need or use GPStest under this WM 6.0 setup). I cant say how it'll go with other than TomTom 6 as thats all I've used apart from Google Maps which also works very well on this setup - you might want to try the free Google Maps for testing purposes if you have a data package from your network provider.
I got my current setup by flashing hardSPL 1 then the complete ROM shown in my sig (which came with 1.27.12.11 Radio originally) then upgrading the radio to 1.27.12.32, then flashing the HTC 1.93 spl (this last step shouldn't be necessary though if you think you'll be doing more flashing).
I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible. I can see it getting signal from a number of sats but it can take 10minutes to lock in sometimes. I've read some threads on the subject, and have tried Quick GPS and have aGPS off, but neither guarantees a quick lock.
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
WM 6.1 GPS - standard stuff
dman7777 said:
I'm using the official WM6.1 and the GPS lock is horrible.
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OK - no surprises there then....
I seem to recall WM6.0 was better but it was also using a different radio then as well.
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You mean like the setup in my signature? You do realise it's possible to go back to this if you read up here on xda-dev about how to do so?
Anyway, sorry nothing I can offer to help.
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I agree, short of trying a custom WM 6.1 ROM, with no guarantee of success or installing third party apps to 'help' the GPS work properly, IMO WM 6.1 is a lost cause as far as GPS is concerned.
I had the same problems with the GPS, what I've found to work is using a program called GPSToday. there are 2 programs, one is a today plugin, and the other is a program. I use the program, and it really makes a difference for me. If you do a search in the Kaiser software forum, you will find more information about it. I use it with TomTom software, i start GPS today a min or 2 before i start tomtom and i get a fix right away.
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I Managed to get my phone configured exactly like yours, and god! It is damnly fast, i got my first fix within seconds, its almost unbelievable !
I had it configured like that when you first advised, but i forgot to downgrade spl, i suppose that was the cause of the malfunctioning.
I really recommend to everyone who have the same priorities, to flash back to Flying Kiwi settings:
ROM Version: 1.56.405.5
ROM Date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.32 (better than 1.27.12.11 with WMP)
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H
SPL: 1.93
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Here is the threads that can help you :
For the SPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
For downloading the 1.56.405.5 rom: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
For the 1.27.12.32 radio: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
Man, you really were very helpful, thank you very very very much, and my kaiser is even faster with this settings.
If i can help by anyway send a pm please
This post should be made sticky for future information!
EDIT:
I have to Warn you Guys: In order to have the GPS working you have to follow this procedure:
Flash the 1.56.405.5 rom and then flash the 1.27.12.32 radio rom, and finally flash the SPL, otherwise GPS will not work, i just tested that
Did the Wm6.0 up/downgrade also resolve the precission of the GPS?
Iam now on WM6.1 WWE with radio 1.70.19.09 and hardSPL 3.56 with a realy fast GPS fix within 30 secs. no problems with that
But the problem is that I mention a little lag kind of thing when navigation with TT7 in my car. The Tomtom arrow is little bit behind with the reality it is usable though but if i connect it to an external sirfIII gps mouse it is more accurate.
So I wonder if you guys also have a slight GPS lag with WM6.0...
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