Hai
it would seem that if i have windows media player streaming a file over wifi from the intarweb and i press the wpoer button to sleep the device, it kills the wifi conn - any workarounds for this?
also sometimes when im using the htc home plugin music bit and i press the power button it kills the backend media player process :s
is anyone else having these problems - im sure theres a setting somewhere for it im just too noob to find it
edit: in fact it seems to kill the wifi conn when it goes to sleep by itself too
When you press Power button, you are puting the phone in suspend mode. you need to turn off only the screen, than all the proceses will keep runing. I do it with AEButtonPlus, that alow you to assign a button to this option, and much more...
really? that doesnt seem to make sense - i was using the media player last night through the htchome music plugin over my bluetooth stereo headset, pressed the power button to turn off the screen and everything kept running as i had expected it to - i guess it handles bluetooth differently than wifi?
i intend to have this sitting on my desk at work with apps with network connections persistently open, does that mean ive got to disable the auto-suspend feature in order to achieve this? was kinda hoping it would just power off the screen after a while and any other bits it wasnt using (maybe lower efficiency for better power consumption in places ie wifi) - not kill everything dead
it seems to me to be intermittent when it comes to pressing the power button shutting down the media player tho so hmm :S
When you turn off (suspend) your device the WiFi connection is automatically stopped, which is good, considering the power consumption... imagine you would forget it on for 2h...
shayd was right, you can turn off the screen (different from pressing power) with different programs, which would keep your WiFi going. it's like monitor off on pc, and stand-by on PC
when you pressing power button it is not "killing" all the apps that is running, only suspending the proceses of those apps. when you press power button again, it will resume all the proceses of the runnig apps.
I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.
is it only the wifi it kills when it goes into suspend? what about gprs/gsm/etc? surely it doesnt turn off the phone when its suspended
it doesnt seem to stop any running processes if goes into suspend mode - it only seems to intermittently kill the background media player process (when run through the htchome plugin) when i manually press the power button - ie sometimes itll keep playing, other times itll die
the wifi does dies whether it goes into standby manually or automatically though - ill check out that aebuttonplus, cheers
ok, the only thing that matters here is that suspend (manual and auto) kills WiFi
the reason sometimes it plays a little, and then stops is that it has buffered something before WiFi goes down
what you want is a way to turn off the screen, but not go in suspend mode... i'm sure you can find something smaller than AEButtonPlus for that
oh, and be carefull: when shuting down screen, the hardware buttons are NOT LOCKED (i'm 99% sure the touchscreen is disabled, so no problem there)
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I think you're wrong on this one... it tells the programs that system is in stand-by mode, but programs act the way they want... they can still run.
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You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.
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You right, the programs are still runing. but they are suspending the proceses.
like if you are connected to pc via activesync, when you suspend the phone by P button, you are "killing" the sync proces, but activesync will still run. same with gps apps and so on. of course some poceses (system) can not been stoped.
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If you wanna get into it:
I could be wrong, but i think the system sends a WM_SYSTEM_SUSPEND (or something similar) message to all apps running, so each app does what it wants (some ignore it and run, some stop displaying stuff but still compute, play music and some stop everything, depending on their purpose)
examples:
- app that gets mail ignores the message or stops displaying stuff
- app that plays music keeps playing but no visualization
- app for im still gets messages but no visualization
(those are true assuming programmers that made those apps did a good job for power saving - maybe system stops displaying anyway, even if apps don't)
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your "spam" is making sense to me. and maybe there is a way to force some apps to ignore that command (or what ever it is).
i see ye that makes sense - alot like win32 - i really need to read the wm6 sdk
Oh, i just saw that BatteryStatus also has screen off in tray icons, and i find it useful anyway, so maybe give it a try(search forum for latest version)
Phone / MP3 Player in My Pocket
With the availability of 6GB, and soon bigger microSD cards, we can now reasonably use our Tilts as true MP3 players and discard our IPods.
I for one would like a solution, I hope to use my Tilt while Skiing this season. The Tilt will be in my jacket pocket and I will be using a Bluetooth Stereo Headset. However, if we cannot lock the phone while it is in our pocket, then we will be unable to use it in this fashion.
I for one do not have the knowledge to fix this problem, but am hoping one of the bright coders here will find a solution for me and others.
The gps is also turned off when the device is suspended.
I've just started using s2u2. (the newer low mem version of the popular slide to unlock.)
This has the advantage of being assignable to a key, can turn off the screen and lock the device all in one go.
pjam
I've found that you can still have the device in standby and listen to audio if either of the following are true:
- you are using a headset connected to the miniUSB connection
- you are using an A2DP stereo headset and press the button the corresponds to controlling start/stop of the audio after you put the device in standby. In my case, this works fine with my Plantronics 590.
This topic is dead a long time ago, but I found it, and still got confused ...
What drive me crazy is that: my Hermes (8525) still keeps wifi on even when the power is off (I dont use any kind of Tweak, just flash a cooked ROM, I tried w/ 2 different ROM). But my Kaiser doesn't!
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I finally found a power utility to restart the device via on screen selection that looks good too. However, one other function I need it to do is shut down without having to press the side button for 5 seconds and then confirm with on screen touch.
I've read in other theads that ShutXP is meant to fully switch off the device but on my v1615 it simply switches the display off (locks the screen etc, just as if the power button was depressed momentarily).
Is there a bug with the v1615 (Vodafone branded TyTn II/Kaiser) and this tool? Does anyone else have a Kaiser and the ShutXP tool and experience this issue? Perhaps I have something else installed which is causing it not to shutdown properly??
I've noticed a DWORD registry entry for ShutXP in HKLM\Software\PPCSpft\psShutXP\VideoPowerOff which has a default value of 0. Setting this to 1 doesn't seem to make a difference to any of the features.
OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.
PS shutxp
Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Did you read, what he posted? Does NOT what he describes.
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OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.
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PsShutXP is not able to do that. I think it isn't even possible with any software. (AFAIK)
Thanks johanromijn, couldn't think of any other way of making it any more clearer...
I've read somewhere about a command prompt interface on the ppc which can emulate many functions. Do you know about this? I'm sure it could do many power functions but I can't for the life of me find the same one I read about.
Pressing the button simply sends a software command so perhaps it can be captured and saved to a shortcut on the touch screen. I could understand the difficulty if it were a hardware switch! Unfortunatly, the button capture software I've used doesn't register the button press and the device just warns me about loosing any unsaved data before powering off - screen capture attached.
I just don't want to waste battery unnecessarily over night or elsewhere when the device isn't required to be on.
Anyone got any suggestions??
Same problem On HTC P3470
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap
mehrzad_64 said:
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap
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Given that you'd normally need to press the power button to get it out of powersaving mode before doing any screen tapping anyway, other than the fact shutting the device down takes 5 seconds more, I don't see any advantage to having a fully screen tap method of powering off. In fact, to the contrary, it may result in unwanted accidental shutdowns eg when putting the device in pockets etc when the screen may accidentally be touched/tapped in the wrong place if not put into powersaving mode first.
Install 888PowerOff it will put a shortcut that you can place where you want in the start menu etc, still asks for verification but still faster than power button
Maybe you should just hire someone to do the work for you. Powering the phone off by holding a button is very hard work.
Lots of reasons
I'ts not as if you can't set the attribute of the shortcut to hidden and call it, to schedule it, or in my case, I'd like to use PhoneAlarm to trigger it when to power gets down to 10%, still allowing me to make outbound calls, that is if I'm not obsessively watching my battery while people I don't really need to talk to are calling me.
Not to mention with WinMo, I'm always telling people 'just hang on.' I can't even power down as fast as they can.
If I assign it to a long-press on another hardware key I can just reach in my pocket and press; I don't have to dig the thing out, hold the button for what on my unit comes out to 7 sec, tap, and put the thing back. Discretion is always nice.
I'd really prefer to skip the whole PowerOffWarning.exe/ShutXP bit, and just power off. My phone is not my heart, it can stop for a few minues once in a while.
Power off HTC TyTN II by software
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?
GCorbo said:
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?
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CTscheduler is still out there, but now for wm6.1 and 6.5
link:
http://www.connectivetools.com/ctscheduler.html#
does everything you said and now more
Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
On my older Trinity, whenever I used the GPS, the device would not go into standby mode no matter what the power setting was, and hence GPS will remain working. In other words, even when in power setting i had power off after 1 minute, if the GPS was being used (like Destinator) the Trinity was kept awake until I shut down Destiniator. But this is not the case with the Kaiser. Even if I have Destinator running, the devise will still go to sleep mode.
I use tomtom and when running it won't let the Kaiser go into standby automatically.
I do not know how to do it - but I know it MUST be possible because when TomTom is running on my phone it stays in live bright screen mode.
Bill
omar302 said:
Is there a way to keep the device (Tytn II) from going automaitcaly into standby mode when the GPS is activated regardless of the power setting?
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I use AE Button plus, which is a button remapping program, but has additional functions that can be assigned to hardware buttons. Check it out. I have set up the PTT button that when I click it twice, it disables the auto-standby function but then the backlight doesn't turn off, so when I click it three times it turns off the backlight to save power. Works like a champ.
I too am wondering the same thing. When using iGo, my phone goes to sleep. Is there a reg setting, or an exception lit I can add iGo to, in order to keep phone awake?
I know it must be possible, since several other programs work that way. For example phone does not go to sleep when using IE, or Core Player etc.
I am also using S2U2, and have added iGo to the exception list there, but that only stopped the phone from locking when it goes to sleep.
Please help.
Thanks!
I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).
omar302 said:
I solved my problem (actualy workaround) by using MortScript (Keepalive script).
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your reply.
Is there an application that turns the phone off via software rather than holding the power button down?
Ideally, with a small battery, it would be cool to have the phone auto power off at say 11:00pm time and then come back on at say 06:00am.
There are various apps than can power off the device (amongst other functions) - they are usually a secondary function of what its primary purpose is. One such example is SPB Pocket Plus - it includes various little tools, one of which is PowerOff which can be run from a shortcut, or scheduler etc.
I'm sure you'd have no problem getting the device turned off automatically at 8pm, but back on in the morning will be rather tricky given that the device is off hence unable to tell itself to turn back on!
Perhaps if you elaborate on what your ultimate goal is (i.e. why you want it turning off at night) then there may be another, better, way of achieving it.
Mathew
Thanks Mathew.
I dont take calls at night so its best to turn the phone off. With the battery not lasting that long it would be great.
I know that Sony Ericsson phones can turn on and display a reminder even when they are off. And I used to have a Siemens phone which had an auto-off function whereby I was able to set a time at which it would go off. A minute before the scheduled off time, a dialogue would appear on screen to say that the phone would turn off in 59 seconds. Then it would proceed to countdown the seconds. I had the opportunity to overide the auto power off if required otherwise when the countdown got to 0 seconds the phone would turn off. Cant remember if the siemens had an auto on function!
I think theres two ways of looking at this thread...
phone off - physically like a blackberry can do at a set time each day etc
or phone off as in the actual phone function. I think this is more suited to your needs and I really can;t think it would be that difficult to do for the average programmer.
You are in theory making something to switch "phone" on or off as you would in the communication manager
And then tie this in to an alarm style program
Hey Guys,
question is as simple as that. I'm using HTC's original cradle for charging and syncing. Means, the phone is getting charged over USB. So whenever I dock the device, Windows Mobile Center kicks in. No problem by itself but the Diamond's screen backlight won't turn off when connected to AS. It just only dims into energy saving mode.
Is there a way either to completely turn the display off when syncing -or- to disconnect from AS without disconnecting from USB? The former could also be helpful for TomTom which also only dims the screen but won't switch it off.
Thanks,
Falk
First solution
Put the diamond in the cradle.
Wait for a complete sync.
Push diamond's power button.
The diamond will still be charging through USB, the screen will be completely off.
Of course, in this case, Active Sync is disabled and you won't be able to sync or access the device through your PC.
Second solution
Use a tool to toggle the screen off while not affecting the diamond power state
Some applications provide such built-in features, like Windows Media Player which has a toggle screen shortcut which allows you to listen to music with the screen off
You may find such a tool here or here
In this case, everything will be functionnal (sync and charging) with screen off
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Yes, of course... that really is the simplest solution So simple I even didn't think of it. Merci b'coup!
I put the screen off util on the Take Call hardware button. Now the best would be if this app could also reactivate the screen as I now need to push the on/off button that seems to disable GPS.
Bitte sehr...
What you actually need is a "toggle screen" command line tool and not a simple screen off tool....
Interesting.
If I think of something, i'll let you know
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What you actually need is a "toggle screen" command line tool and not a simple screen off tool....
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Yep
eg this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326103 which perfectly does the job when assigned to a hardware button
Thx again for your help!
You're welcome.
Viel Spass.
Myster-D
There is another option. If you do not use AS or WMDC to snyc with the PC you can disable it all together. In WMDC, open the Device Center with the device disconnected. The only Flash menu you will see is "Mobile Device Settings". Roll your mouse over & you will see "Connection Setting". Click on it, & disable the Checkbox next to "Allow USB Connections". After you do this the Computer will no longer try to sync with the device, but it still connects as an external device {allowing you to veiw your device in explorer}.
After you have disable the syncing, you need to adjust the power settings on your device. Set the device to sleep while on external power.
Personally I use the screen toggle alot. I use my device with Inet sharing when I can't get a WiFi signal on my laptop. I have SPB Pocket Plus installed, which includes a screen toggle.
Thanks for your reply. I'm actually using WMDC however thanks for showing up this possibility.
I installed pBar 1.5 a few days ago which also features a screen toggle button.
Apart from that I'm quite happy with Myster-D's solution.
Hi all,
I frequently charge my X1i through USB. There are 2 problems with this method, however.
1) The device goes into USB drive mode, disabling my SD card apps (I keep them on SD card AT ALL TIMES due to frequent backups/restores)
2) Screen does not turn off! while connected to computer! The screen only dims, but does not turn off.
WITHOUT resorting to a) plugging into wall outlet b) connecting to Activesync, is there any to fix these behaviors?
Thanks!
just let it go into activesync mode, that way you can still access your files on your phone and micro sd card from both your pc and phone. And if you dont like the screen not turning off, they just change the settings or just press the power button, to shut off the display.
I know about the power setting, but when your computer is connected to the computer via USB, it refuses to turn off the screen (only dims it)
what? one simple button press and the screen is off. the device is still visible to the pc. I do it all the time - r3a generic uk rom.
in power options u can set after what time it disables screen... default is never
what? one simple button press and the screen is off. the device is still visible to the pc. I do it all the time - r3a generic uk rom.
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Weird. When I'm connected to Pc, it dims the screen, it does not shut it off. Also, it does NOT auto-shut of screen after the 2 minutes specific in the Power options
You can also use "safely remove devices" to disconnect the data connection from the phone, it'll still charge.
There's nothing we can do AUTO. But like said before, a simple pression on the power button will do it, or you can use My Mobiler and press F11 on your PC.
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Weird. When I'm connected to Pc, it dims the screen, it does not shut it off. Also, it does NOT auto-shut of screen after the 2 minutes specific in the Power options
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Yep, I've had 5 different WinMo devices since '05 and they all worked as expected except the X1. I like to use it as an MP3 player at night, Pocket Player has a sleep timer built in so I just like to leave it running as I drift off most nights. But if I do anything, change the volume, rewind, anything at all the screen comes back on and stays on until I hit some other button to turn it back off. All my other devices obeyed the settings you set in the Power tab, but not the X1...
I'd very much like the screen to auto-off if I tell it to while on USB power. It's not only wasting power, but it wakes me up and gets me fumbling for the tiny power button at 2 in the morning. Any fix would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Peter
I bumped up thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561832 Since it has a better title and shows the exact same unresolved issue...
Reg Fix
Adding this potential fix here as well so anyone subscribed to this thread sees it.
Ok, I think I have a fix for this. I googled around some more and found that this might be an HTC problem more than an SE one. There were various registry keys people suggested to try to fix the 'backlight problem' - which may or may not be related. None of those suggestions seemed to work, but I kept changing keys myself and eventually found this seemed to do the trick.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts\ACUserIdle: 120
I confirmed that changing this value affects the amount of time before my X1's screen turns off - but my MP3s still play with the screen off and my phone wakes on receipt of a new call. This value is the # of seconds before the screen turns itself off (in this case 2 minutes). You do need to soft reset for the change to take effect.
This doesn't seem to be posted anywhere else that I've found doing this to fix this issue issue - I changed a few other registry keys as well that might be enabling this fix. So anyone with this problem, please do give this a try and if it doesn't work I'll post the other keys I changed as well - and if it does then post to say so and we're good
Peter
Update: I tested it also while hooked up to the computer and it does work with the phone accessible through active sync with the screen off and the battery charging (faster now that it isn't competing with the screen for power, except for the 2 minutes before it times out). If I want to use it I just click a button and the screen stays on till I leave it alone for 2 mins and it remains off. Get a call or a message and the screen goes on for 2 minutes and then off - Exact same behaviour on AC and USB - exactly the behaviour I wanted .