I finally found a power utility to restart the device via on screen selection that looks good too. However, one other function I need it to do is shut down without having to press the side button for 5 seconds and then confirm with on screen touch.
I've read in other theads that ShutXP is meant to fully switch off the device but on my v1615 it simply switches the display off (locks the screen etc, just as if the power button was depressed momentarily).
Is there a bug with the v1615 (Vodafone branded TyTn II/Kaiser) and this tool? Does anyone else have a Kaiser and the ShutXP tool and experience this issue? Perhaps I have something else installed which is causing it not to shutdown properly??
I've noticed a DWORD registry entry for ShutXP in HKLM\Software\PPCSpft\psShutXP\VideoPowerOff which has a default value of 0. Setting this to 1 doesn't seem to make a difference to any of the features.
OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.
PS shutxp
Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Have you heard of PSShutXP??
Have used it before... does what you desrcibe...
http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
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Did you read, what he posted? Does NOT what he describes.
vigilante_xix said:
OK, I'll ask it in a slightly different way as I've done a little more searching around and cannot find any tools to do this...
How do you switch off the TyTn II without pressing the side power button?
i.e. have a shortcut in the HTC Launcher which powers down the device similar to psShutXP but not just to sleep??
I'm talking about completely switching the device off - not just putting it to sleep. Pressing the power button for more than 4 seconds allows you to switch the device off, completely.
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PsShutXP is not able to do that. I think it isn't even possible with any software. (AFAIK)
Thanks johanromijn, couldn't think of any other way of making it any more clearer...
I've read somewhere about a command prompt interface on the ppc which can emulate many functions. Do you know about this? I'm sure it could do many power functions but I can't for the life of me find the same one I read about.
Pressing the button simply sends a software command so perhaps it can be captured and saved to a shortcut on the touch screen. I could understand the difficulty if it were a hardware switch! Unfortunatly, the button capture software I've used doesn't register the button press and the device just warns me about loosing any unsaved data before powering off - screen capture attached.
I just don't want to waste battery unnecessarily over night or elsewhere when the device isn't required to be on.
Anyone got any suggestions??
Same problem On HTC P3470
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap
mehrzad_64 said:
Hi All,
i have same problem with my HTC P3470
i tried about 4 or 5 other applications that same result appears. some of them needed .net framework. but the peroblem still remain after installing .net farmework. i think it's become a dream to shutdown our wm6 via screen tap
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Given that you'd normally need to press the power button to get it out of powersaving mode before doing any screen tapping anyway, other than the fact shutting the device down takes 5 seconds more, I don't see any advantage to having a fully screen tap method of powering off. In fact, to the contrary, it may result in unwanted accidental shutdowns eg when putting the device in pockets etc when the screen may accidentally be touched/tapped in the wrong place if not put into powersaving mode first.
Install 888PowerOff it will put a shortcut that you can place where you want in the start menu etc, still asks for verification but still faster than power button
Maybe you should just hire someone to do the work for you. Powering the phone off by holding a button is very hard work.
Lots of reasons
I'ts not as if you can't set the attribute of the shortcut to hidden and call it, to schedule it, or in my case, I'd like to use PhoneAlarm to trigger it when to power gets down to 10%, still allowing me to make outbound calls, that is if I'm not obsessively watching my battery while people I don't really need to talk to are calling me.
Not to mention with WinMo, I'm always telling people 'just hang on.' I can't even power down as fast as they can.
If I assign it to a long-press on another hardware key I can just reach in my pocket and press; I don't have to dig the thing out, hold the button for what on my unit comes out to 7 sec, tap, and put the thing back. Discretion is always nice.
I'd really prefer to skip the whole PowerOffWarning.exe/ShutXP bit, and just power off. My phone is not my heart, it can stop for a few minues once in a while.
Power off HTC TyTN II by software
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?
GCorbo said:
I have the same question with my HTC TyTn II and have researched it for a few weeks now; even contacted HTC technical support - but they did not an answer. I did find a software that will fully power down the device (XdaShutdown).
But since I have had other HTC smartphones, Blacberry devices, etc., that would definitely fully power-off (not just the screen or go into Standby mode, etc.) - what I was really looking for is an app that would power-off the device at a scheduled time. Used to have a program called CTScheduler which did this on my former Smartphone (WM5). But this app does not seem to work on WM6.
If most Smartphones and Blackberry devices can do (either by 3rd party app or within the device itself...) scheduled power-off-- why can't some of these HTC Pocket PC devices be made to do same?
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CTscheduler is still out there, but now for wm6.1 and 6.5
link:
http://www.connectivetools.com/ctscheduler.html#
does everything you said and now more
Related
Hi, I have discovered that Direct Push e-mail is causing the wizard to power on at certain intervals and for me at least was causing significant power drains under crossbow. Here are 2 fixes.
1. This is for those that use an exchange server and/or direct push email.
-Locking the device stops the wizard powering on and still allows use of direct push email.
2. Those that don't wish to lock their device and don't use direct push email.
-Change the following Registry values:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\
HeartbeatIncrement DWORD: 0
InitialHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MinHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MaxHeartbeat DWORD: 0
Reset
Hopefully this will work for you guys it did for me, no power on all night.
EDIT: Sorry after longer testing No. 2 appears not to work however I still think it has something to do with Activesync and Direct Push E-mail. The settings reset themselves after soft reset.
It works!
Confirmed. Locking the device via the Today screen plug-in prevents the undesired power ups.
I am using a small program called Device Lock with the Suspend option. I set Button 4(Hold) to Device Lock. Sometimes it wakes up immediately after suspending, but I can press the power button and it stays off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261277
I discovered this yesterday also.
He means using the today screen plugin to lock it, not just having buttons locked except power in case you weren't aware of that.
No wonder I never had this problem. I use batterystatus to lock my screen all the time. Isn't the lock nice? Very convinent. My only hope is if there is anyway to unlock it with one hard button.
Oh. I was using the Lock in the control panel set to lock after 0 minutes of idle so when I pressed power it would power down and lock.
I'll have to find a better way to lock.
it didnt work....
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it didnt work....
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using the batterystatus, not the lock in the control panel.
i meant the regedits, it didnt fix the problem...i dont like to lock my phone when not in my pocket...
i hit the lock button on the today screen and i watch it turn on and off every minute... still... it didn't help ...
I wonder how did faria fix it in his ROM.
any update? wokring solution ?
Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...
the only working solution i have seen was the one rusigor suggested and that was taking the device password off. and im believer because it worked for me. so im sticking with that. Also i noticed that my battery is lasting like alot lot lot lot lot lot lot longer now. before i would go to bed with the phone at 80% battery and when i would wake up it would be like at 30. The last couple nights i would go to bed with it at 59 and woke up and it was at 55. I was shocked. so thats why im sticking with this method.
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Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...
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I hope it's just a case of him not knowing of this thread! Has anyone PM'd him?
I will if no one has yet.
Karl
Sorry meant to update this, fix has been around for a little while now.
Untick Turn off backlight for both battery and mains power and this will cure the problem however you may still have automatic power offs.
I don't use push, nor do I have an Exchange server configured. I also had a problem with automatic power-ups. I found that having the device configured to display the owner info screen when it is switched on caused it to power up on its own shortly after it was switched off.
Getting rid of the owner info display on power-up did the trick for me.
I'd love to know how those two things are connected.
I found a solution for me
I also think is more related with the screen light as I used the WM6 MB and i put the screen auto off after 30 sec, and it was waking up very frequently. I completly removed the screen light auto off and now my phone never wakes up alone (just when it should be =D).
Hope it helps!
Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock
Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.
You can add lock to the home screen
first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard
Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.
nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
rzanology said:
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
JonRick said:
Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike
hard reset and try again.
i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.
well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
dscline said:
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.
So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks
I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.
I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419
This just started happening:
I restart my tilt. I push the power button and the display brightness gets brighter but the device does not turn off. I push it again, the device turns off but then I can't get it to turn back on without soft resetting! What the crap??!!
Any clue what is going on?
Thanks!
Alan
I am just a n00b, but it sounds like your power button got mapped to your brightness control somehow, and when the screen goes black, the device is not off, just brightness set to 0. When you soft reset, the unit just sets back to default. I am not proficient in mapping the buttons, but a quick search on the forum should help. I know that there are a lot of threads having to do with mapping keys.
Hi
I experience the same problem and strange enough after I downloaded a patch released by HTC for potential issue with blue tooth and the phone.
A soft reset does not solve the problem, instead a Sync with the PC (even not a full one) cure it for a period of 2-3 days.
I have the impression that it is more complicated than just a registry issue. For instance I can not run the TOM TOM any more.
The HTC support only suggested a hard reset that I did but for complicated reasons I was forced to restore a back up I had.
So I am still affected by this problem.
I did a hard reset and used spb backup to restore everything to the day prior. The last thing I remember installing was s2u2 0.99c which seems that it would mess with how the device responds to the power button. I'm going to post over there and see if there is a chance it was the culprit.
Alan
You have to disable directdraw in s2u2.
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You have to disable directdraw in s2u2.
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It was and is disabled at least according to s2u2 settings. I did notice that for me in 0.99c DPAD was enabled but did not work.
Is there an application that turns the phone off via software rather than holding the power button down?
Ideally, with a small battery, it would be cool to have the phone auto power off at say 11:00pm time and then come back on at say 06:00am.
There are various apps than can power off the device (amongst other functions) - they are usually a secondary function of what its primary purpose is. One such example is SPB Pocket Plus - it includes various little tools, one of which is PowerOff which can be run from a shortcut, or scheduler etc.
I'm sure you'd have no problem getting the device turned off automatically at 8pm, but back on in the morning will be rather tricky given that the device is off hence unable to tell itself to turn back on!
Perhaps if you elaborate on what your ultimate goal is (i.e. why you want it turning off at night) then there may be another, better, way of achieving it.
Mathew
Thanks Mathew.
I dont take calls at night so its best to turn the phone off. With the battery not lasting that long it would be great.
I know that Sony Ericsson phones can turn on and display a reminder even when they are off. And I used to have a Siemens phone which had an auto-off function whereby I was able to set a time at which it would go off. A minute before the scheduled off time, a dialogue would appear on screen to say that the phone would turn off in 59 seconds. Then it would proceed to countdown the seconds. I had the opportunity to overide the auto power off if required otherwise when the countdown got to 0 seconds the phone would turn off. Cant remember if the siemens had an auto on function!
I think theres two ways of looking at this thread...
phone off - physically like a blackberry can do at a set time each day etc
or phone off as in the actual phone function. I think this is more suited to your needs and I really can;t think it would be that difficult to do for the average programmer.
You are in theory making something to switch "phone" on or off as you would in the communication manager
And then tie this in to an alarm style program
Hi there,
Wondering if this is happening for all Diamond2 users or whether my playing around and initial configuration setup for the phone has somehow caused this situation.
When I hold down the Hang-Up/Home key it locks the screen. To enable the screen again I press the first Unlock button on the bottom left and then the Unlock button that pops up to re-enable use of the phone. This is of course normal.
However as my company forces Password protection as part of our Exchange Email policy, a Password is now enabled on the phone. Now holding down the Hang-Up/Home button locks the phone and instantly displays the Password screen (and not the Home screen with any information).
Being a previous Touch Cruise, then Touch Diamond user this has always driven me mad so I install SPB Mobile Shell so whenever I lock the phone it still shows the Home screen with all the information I want to see.
However on the Diamond2 this does not work and any locking of the phone simply displays the Password screen and no information. All I can do is enter the Password to enable phone use again.
I've installed registered versions of SPB Mobile Shell 3, and PocketShield but neither of them get around this problem.
Is anyone else having this problem? I'm trying to work out whether it's something I've done or whether it is all Diamond2's that demonstrate this frustrating behaviour? I've done a number of hard resets and gone back to scratch trying to see if I could get a combination that worked with this...
Appreciate any help so I can get this phone configured to my liking and actually start 'using' it. I know WM6.5 fixes this poor design in the OS.
Cheers.
Its an exchange thing...
The new version of Exchange 2007 forces all information to be hidden. As far as I am aware, there is no way anymore to show this info, especially as TF3D is so tightly integrated now.
Its pretty pointless having Exchange mobile policy on a device designed to protect the mobile information, and then being able to deactivate it, and show all that information you are supposed to be protecting when the device is locked.
BTW, the "versions" of wimo 6.5 that are floating around have been tampered with to remove this limitation. The official versions of ANY 6.1 rom will always hide that info when using exchnage mobile, if the group policy has restricted it.
You could always ask your sysadmin to disable it for your device.
Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.
On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.
mine does exactly the same
elmalote said:
On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.
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The rom did this out of box. I just flashed the HTC latest diamond rom onto my original diamond as well, and it doesn't show any info either.
thats interesting.
madstyle69 said:
Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.
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The answer there lies with the GPO triggering the simple pin lock from WIMO, rather than a 3rd party lock program.
A little progress...
Think I may have worked something out with this after a bit more playing around.
If I disable TouchFlo 3D and enable just the Device Lock option to show on the standard Today screen, then when I press Device Lock it locks the phone keys and dims the display (but still displays the Today screen info).
So the Device Lock can actually function on the phone as desired - however it appears that the ROM by default has the long press End key mapped to display the password logon screen (and not mapped to the Device Lock function).
Now it comes down to whether the long press End key can be re-mapped in the registry somehow to point to the standard Device Lock function and not the password screen.
I thought I had a way around it by mapping the long press Send key to Device Lock - however this button can only be mapped to installed applications (and not functions) from what I can see.
So any registry experts know of the key I'd need to modify to either re-map the long press End, or map the long press Send to the Device Lock function?
Resolved
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).
be VERY carefull!
madstyle69 said:
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).
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Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...
Juggles said:
Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...
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I've read countless messages from people using this tool on XDA and on other WM sites I've not yet read anything negative.
But thanks for the info in case I notice something unusual happen with the phone...