LOUDNESS - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hello all,
just a quick question for someone that has owned a Nokia N95 and a Kaiser?
Which one has better and superior sound quality?
my mind is pretty such convinced i need a Kaiser as my next phone, but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
Or could someone point me in the right direction as to find out the specs of the speakers used in both devices.
cheers
Marc

norf1983 said:
hello all,
just a quick question for someone that has owned a Nokia N95 and a Kaiser?
Which one has better and superior sound quality?
my mind is pretty such convinced i need a Kaiser as my next phone, but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
Or could someone point me in the right direction as to find out the specs of the speakers used in both devices.
cheers
Marc
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wondering the same thing here. alogn with teh sound quality. im talking about the loud speaker, not headphones.

Sound quality is okay on the Kaiser, Nokia sound chipsets are so much better than the HTC ones. The n95 is a media powerhouse. Has better sound, better camera. The kaiser is a business phone and has a lot of pros.

xxnoelziexx said:
Sound quality is okay on the Kaiser, Nokia sound chipsets are so much better than the HTC ones. The n95 is a media powerhouse. Has better sound, better camera. The kaiser is a business phone and has a lot of pros.
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well how well does it compare to another windows mobile device? such as the tornado?

Hi
but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
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With all due respects the sound on mobiles is dreadful, even good ones, why on earth anyone wants to listen to music out of 10p miniature speaker I have no idea, to annoy people around them I expect
The sound on the Kaiser is just about what you expect for voice, and how would expect for music, sounds like it is coming from a 10p cheap miniature speaker with some extra vibrations.
Use headphones or buy a device designed for music is my advice
Regards
Phil

Yupe, the sound on the built-in speaker of the Kaiser is really awful for listening music.
It is very laud, but really, not for listening music.

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speaker quality, ringtone or speaker phone

i think the speaker sound quality on Touch Diamond is not good. Low volume and weakness on mid-tone and bass. do you feel the same ?
Hmmm...Well, small speakers are weak at lower pitches. Are you comparing the quality to other similar devices or to other speakers in general?
Dark Fire said:
Hmmm...Well, small speakers are weak at lower pitches. Are you comparing the quality to other similar devices or to other speakers in general?
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i'm compared it with my HTC Touch Elf. I use same MP3 ringtone on both devices. and e-mail alert "wav" with pushmail. When email arrive, the voice of "You've got mail" is big different in quality.
In my Touch Elf, sometimes people will thought it's real human speech.
Fair enough. That's not good then...
TBH, I think the speaker on the Touch looks like it should have a better sound quality than the speaker on the Touch Diamond too...
Then I guess I will be happy since it's bound to be better than the HTC tornado wich was my last HTC device..
what do tou think about signal strength??
Hi,
I work in a big society of telecommunications, and I'm an acoustician. I measured a lot of mobile phones, not only WM compliant. In general, the quality of mobile phone is very bad, I measure a HTC P3300, and it's not so good as a Sony Ericsson Wxxx for example.
I mean that it's so crazy that we spend a lot of money in a WM compliant phone, having a bad voice quality ! What are HTC's acousticians doing ? It's time to put good transducers in our phones !
tony71 said:
what do tou think about signal strength??
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For signal reception strength, i think it is better or equal to my HTC Touch Elf.
Mister K said:
Hi,
I work in a big society of telecommunications, and I'm an acoustician. I measured a lot of mobile phones, not only WM compliant. In general, the quality of mobile phone is very bad, I measure a HTC P3300, and it's not so good as a Sony Ericsson Wxxx for example.
I mean that it's so crazy that we spend a lot of money in a WM compliant phone, having a bad voice quality ! What are HTC's acousticians doing ? It's time to put good transducers in our phones !
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I don't know why, because the speaker quality in HTC Touch Elf is still up to normal people standard. So, I believe that HTC Touch Diamond, as a sucessor, should be better or equal to that in Touch Elf; but I know it's not the case now.
Maybe this is another drawback due to the thickness.
andrewloh said:
I don't know why, because the speaker quality in HTC Touch Elf is still up to normal people standard. So, I believe that HTC Touch Diamond, as a sucessor, should be better or equal to that in Touch Elf; but I know it's not the case now.
Maybe this is another drawback due to the thickness.
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The Touch isn't that much thicker (something like 2mm), so I don't think there's any excuse for bad sound quality.
2mm is a nassive amount when you're considering the thickness of a device. But, I agree that in a year, components should have gotten smaller, and HTC should have never compromised call quality to make it thinner.
Rory
Hi,
What do you think about the Diamond touch voice quality ?
Good, bad,...
I've got a trinity, and its so bad quality voice...
Thanks for your answer !
This is very disappointing to me, I was looking forward to the Raphael. I may just have to wait and see what the Nvidia chip goes into and hope for better sound quality. Thanks, JASTECH

Voice quality

Hello guys!
Ive read some reviews on the new HTC Diamond before i bought it, and they said that the sound during calls was crystal clear.
Just one wondering.. my old SE K800i had really good sound quality during calls. But my new HTC Diamond sounds awful and like "in a can". They here me where well, but i hear them pretty bad.
Do you guys have the same problem, or is it me? Ive removed all the plastics
No thoughts at all?
rnenjoy said:
No thoughts at all?
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Sadly, "some reviews" are not very objective. Or maybe they meant by "crystal clear" that you hear no static noise
Diamond have moderate sound quality, thats all. Like almost all WM devices (at least all I know of).
Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.
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Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.
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That many times is related to the network, rather than the phone. My sound is superb.
helterskelter said:
Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.
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I did a "blind" test of an iPhone (1st gen) and the diamond when it comes to sound quality of phone calls. The diamond won hands down. I know...not very scientific but the 4 "reviewers" all found the sound quality of the diamond better.
Well, iPhone never actually excelled in phone voice quality either. Not sure why iPhone was brought into comparison anyway, nobody said its better
halloj said:
That many times is related to the network, rather than the phone. My sound is superb.
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same here, over gsm the voice quality is better then my past phones.
My phone sounds rubbish compared to my old Artemis. That phone was fine and had a good speakerphone too. The one on my Diamond simply cannot be used because you can't hear what the other person is saying.
The Diamond is probably the worst phone I have had in a long time. I am seriously disappointed and I'm only still using it because I already sold my artemis.
as compared to my previous Nokia, voice quality seems to be seriously lacking in the midtones.
But i'll accept it because i know Nokia phones are phones 1st
Mr Farmer said:
as compared to my previous Nokia, voice quality seems to be seriously lacking in the midtones.
But i'll accept it because i know Nokia phones are phones 1st
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Well I used nice Nokia 6233, perfect as a phone I guess, for a few weeks just prior my Diamond, I couldn't wait for to have HTC again, their sound quality is just superb, if you have bad voice quality that's your network to blame and their stupid amr compression.
I wish I can say this for Diamond speaker also but I can't, it's a disaster, but I guess they can't put larger one in this tiny case, so who cares

speaker sounds like crap

anyone else with similar issues?
the HD2 had AWESOME sound, and this phone has a ****ty speaker. this is a BIG NO NO for me as it will lead me to stray from this HD7
sound fix
go into the htc hub and download the sund enhancer app..the settings will definitely improve the sound
Even with sound enhancer it sounds like crap. I'm trying to give my hd7 back to handler.
nesher said:
Even with sound enhancer it sounds like crap. I'm trying to give my hd7 back to handler.
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Sound imho is ok, but it is far too quiet.
Anyone with a hint to boost audio is my hero!!!
tonarm said:
Sound imho is ok, but it is far too quiet.
Anyone with a hint to boost audio is my hero!!!
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+1. Calling it crap is ridiculous. It's just too damn quiet. The headphones that come with the HD7 are excellent though. I wish there was a way to make the speakers louder too though...
I wouldn't be suprised if the speakers are exactly the same as the ones in the hd2.
Seems for somethings they are loud and decent, and for others you can barely hear.
It would be nice if they would make the sound volume consistent across the phone.
Must agree that the phone speakers are rubbish, but i guess HTC and MS want us to use headphones with it like apple,
as you know they seem to have copied the best of both apple and android with this device
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Must agree that the phone speakers are rubbish, but i guess HTC and MS want us to use headphones with it like apple,
as you know they seem to have copied the best of both apple and android with this device
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My iPhone and iPad speakers are loud enough to share a video or game with others. With the HD7 it's embarrasing sharing a video when you can barely hear it yourself and that's with the vol at max and hand cupped around the back trying to amplify the sound.
The quality is indeed crappy BUT has anyone noticed that there just a few days ago there was a Sound Enhancer update? I did it and it sounds slightly louder when it comes to notifications. I am not a fan on playing music/video through speaker and I use my Sennheiser headphones when it comes to listening. And boy turning SRS on it sounds like my legendary N91 ! And that was one of the musts for me.
But, indeed, it would have been cool to have a decent speaker.
i returned the HD7 because of the crappy speaker. gonna wait for another WP7 release with a louder speaker
Yes, poor it is.
When I put it into the pocket, I always let the camera side face outside, bcz the speaker is next to the camera, otherwise can bearly hear the incoming calls.
i have flash new rom shipped sharing from football
and the sound is improved in my hd7
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i have flash new rom shipped sharing from football
and the sound is improved in my hd7
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Which new rom???
tonarm said:
Which new rom???
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you can find new rom capable for your HD7 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
After I got the HTC sound enhancer the speakers is better than my HD2... i love how people are in search for the perfect phone... in everyway... Might as well design, build, and sell your own custom phone.
frankd14321 said:
After I got the HTC sound enhancer the speakers is better than my HD2... i love how people are in search for the perfect phone... in everyway... Might as well design, build, and sell your own custom phone.
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+1. People are idiots. It's just a small sign of how our society expects everything for nothing...
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+1. People are idiots. It's just a small sign of how our society expects everything for nothing...
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This is so NOT cool.
People are idiots because they expect their expensive devices to function the way they've been advertised to function?
Really?!
I don't think this is even a case of expecting everything for nothing. There are standards and these companies that want our hard-earned money need to adhere to them instead of spending millions of dollars on misleading AD campaigns; telling everyone that their devices are the best thing since sliced bread, but are too greedy to do any real QA on them because time to market is short and besides, they're really only concerned about the bottom-line.
Quality loudspeakers on a cellphone is one of the least things you should expect from a phone these days. Every smart AND dumb phone out there has a speakerphone. Its not rocket science.
For crying out loud, these jokers even designed to phone in such a way as to EMPHASIZE the speaker grilles on the top and bottom of the phone.
And yet the sound is obviously tinny and pathetic.
And by the way, downloading software tweaks to make your phone work the way its supposed to work right out of the box doesn't make you smart...it makes you the guy who paid HTC for the privilege of doing their work for them.
Congratulations!
Speakerphone on this phone is just plain embarrassing.
My g/f has the LG Optimus 7 and when is on a call on full volume and NOT on speakerphone it's actually louder than me ON speakerphone.
Now how bad is that?
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+1. People are idiots. It's just a small sign of how our society expects everything for nothing...
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?!!
Wow.
K

Audio quality through headphones?

As my Galaxy S got stolen a few days ago, I'm looking for a new phone and 2X seems like the best option right now. Only thing that concerns me is that some reviews mention not so good audio quality through headphones.
I tend to use my phone as an mp3 player quite a lot and I use good headphones with them, so here's a question for you, kind 2X owners - how does it cope as an mp3 player? I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower. Thanks in advance for any info.
I am not sure about sgs, but it definitely lose comparing my old sony erisson w810
when the wires bumping to your chest, you will listen the noise in ur earphone too. I would give my old w810 9/10, and this phone 4/10.
I would say it definitely depends on the earplugs..
Have to say that with my Sennheiser in-ears i cannot complain.. Haven't done a side by side comparison with a different phone yet.. so If i will, I'll let you know!
Sorry for your loss of sgs. You will not regret the O2X i would say!
Mine is spot on as a music player. The 2x and the Desire I had are more or less the same in the headphones I have. I am not sure how they compare when you enter in the supplied headphones into the test.
Tested with high-end earphones (Westone UM2). It sounds ok but I wouldn't use my 2x as my main music player.
Sound level is a little on the weak side and slightly tame bass levels on my Sennheiser HD 565 headphones. On the plus side, very clean sounding audio. I think a set of headphones/earphones with high sensitivity rating should produce decent audio, or something with high bass reproduction for bassheads.
Might be worth looking at PowerAMP too. It improved audio quality on my Hero no end.
Sound quality is very good except for crosstalk which is awful. That makes the sound quality very average:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-review-564p8.php
It's like 10 times better than my old Windows Mobile HTC Touch HD
submarine said:
I'm no audiophile but I aint deaf either, I was satisfied with Galaxy S' audio quality and would prefer not to go lower.
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Just read from LG Optimus 2x service manual that it uses the same Wolfson audio chipset (wm8994) as Samsung Galaxy S. So, in theory, both phones should be similar sounding when using the same earphones. Or, at least, LG 2x audio should not be much degraded from your old Galaxy S - if at all.
Rooted galaxy s has the vodoo sound option which really enhances audio quality
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Hi,
I as well use the phone as my main mp3 player. Before I had a iPod Touch, a HTC Desire and now the LGOS. And what shall I say: The LGOS is the best beneath them.
Maybe it's also important to say that I never even unpack those earphones coming with the devices. I never had a decent earphone coming with these devices.
I used Sure earphones (the middleclass ones - which are quite expensive already, I bought them for about 150€) but now switched to Phonak by Audeo (a Swiss company) which really deliver amazing sound.
Thanks for the input guys, I just placed an order : ) Voodoo sound on Galaxy S was great indeed, hope someone creates an equivalent for 2X in the future.
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
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I was actually surprised how good they are!
(For supplied earbuds)
withoutwings said:
The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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God, I hate those that were supplied by HTC. They were bloody horrible. Much prefer the LG ones (I left my half decent ones at my sisters house...).
Just as a side note: PowerAMP runs beatifully on this phone.
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The provided headphones are really, really bad. No high definition in the sound at all.
I tried swapping them with the ones HTC supplied with my old Hero and the difference was huge (and even these ones aren't all that good either)!
Shame LG's media player doesn't listen for next/prev button presses (if the headset has that), coz I actually don't mind LG's player software.
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I have use both the one that came with the device and one which came with my htc wildfire and on both i can press the button 2x to go to the next song, so it should work. Or does your headset have 2 separate buttons?
2x uses the same headphone socket layout as iphone which differs from the galaxy S
I personnaly found that audio isn't a great part on Optimus 2x. I tried the earbuds, they are not bad but not really great ... And they doesn't fit my ear, I mean they doesn't isolate sound correctly or usually I never change the size of the foams ;-)
Meanwhile, I noticed that level sound isn't very high. Same for you ? (Maybe that was my divx file, need to verify that)
why can't i hear anything out of my headphones... ahhhh

Headphone Output Quality

I'm coming from a Oneplus One a much better phone for music than my poor old Galaxy S2. How does the Oneplus 3 do compared to its predecessor's? Is it loud, undistorted, have a good range in its built-in DAC for the 3.5mm Jack?
Thanks-
JJ
I haven't got mine yet although from all the reviews i've seen they say the earphone quality is good
It sound really good in my opinion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
Yes, with sony headphone the quality is very good
TED
maxl96 said:
It sound really good in my optionion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
Loving the sound from my Xiaomi Mi Piston 3 on my Oneplus 3..!
It easily tops the quality and power of the Nexus 6. My completely stock OP3 sounds just as good and loud as my rooted N6 using Viper4Android.
Not bad at all, much better than my Nexus 5X.
Sound quality is good and I was a bit worried when I got mine. Coming from a Huawei P8, which I found to be great, I have been very happy with OP3.
I use Neutron player and after I took time to disable some features and enable others, I am very pleased. Output is loud and clear makes my earbuds boom nicely. Overall, no complaints at all. Speaker volume on the other hand... not as good as I'd like.
But, headphone, for me anyway, is most important.
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking
R3Lax1 said:
No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Mulayan said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
maxl96 said:
Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
Mulayan said:
We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
It has the generic Snapdragon converter. Nothing special but sound quality is decent through the h/phone out. When I had the phone I used it a couple of times with both Grado and Sennheiser cans. No real complaints, not amazing. Good enough imho.
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
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I never said it's a phone. Do I?
The Wolfson is actually the DAC which is used in The Galaxy S and there was an App called Voodoo Controller by Supercurio which enabled really undistorted and clear output.
Wolfson DACs where also used in some BMW and Mercedes by the way...
Finally mines arrived been using it for a day listening with inateck Aries earphones and I'm very impressed good amount of bass and undistorted Highs. Using viper on oxygenos. Way better than my s2 and not massively better than my oneplus one.
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We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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So the sound quality is average as for the phone? So probably big difference compared to good quality mp3 player? I was thinking if zte axon 7 has really better sound quality or just dolby, useless for music 32bit. People say it's noticeably better, but just because it has more bass or whatever, or with dolby on when it can get only worse for music.
Maybe you or anyone else knows something about sound quality, has a good headphones to check it, has some comparison to good portable audio player or decent phone.
I'm not an audiophile but I can appreciate sound quality more than others, I'm using old Cowon j3 player and it sounds really well. Have also OPO which I'm using with Spotify, but can hear sound degradation over Cowon
When it's loud, or has a lot of bass or hurting ears high tones says nothing about sound quality. I would like to know how is the soundstage, if the instruments are separate, if they are heard well not mixed up with other sounds, if the sound is flat or not, you said the dynamic range is fine, that's good.
Do anyone know what sound chip is inside OP3?

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