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hello all,
just a quick question for someone that has owned a Nokia N95 and a Kaiser?
Which one has better and superior sound quality?
my mind is pretty such convinced i need a Kaiser as my next phone, but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
Or could someone point me in the right direction as to find out the specs of the speakers used in both devices.
cheers
Marc

norf1983 said:
hello all,
just a quick question for someone that has owned a Nokia N95 and a Kaiser?
Which one has better and superior sound quality?
my mind is pretty such convinced i need a Kaiser as my next phone, but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
Or could someone point me in the right direction as to find out the specs of the speakers used in both devices.
cheers
Marc
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wondering the same thing here. alogn with teh sound quality. im talking about the loud speaker, not headphones.

Sound quality is okay on the Kaiser, Nokia sound chipsets are so much better than the HTC ones. The n95 is a media powerhouse. Has better sound, better camera. The kaiser is a business phone and has a lot of pros.

xxnoelziexx said:
Sound quality is okay on the Kaiser, Nokia sound chipsets are so much better than the HTC ones. The n95 is a media powerhouse. Has better sound, better camera. The kaiser is a business phone and has a lot of pros.
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well how well does it compare to another windows mobile device? such as the tornado?

Hi
but one of my main uses for mobiles are music!
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With all due respects the sound on mobiles is dreadful, even good ones, why on earth anyone wants to listen to music out of 10p miniature speaker I have no idea, to annoy people around them I expect
The sound on the Kaiser is just about what you expect for voice, and how would expect for music, sounds like it is coming from a 10p cheap miniature speaker with some extra vibrations.
Use headphones or buy a device designed for music is my advice
Regards
Phil

Yupe, the sound on the built-in speaker of the Kaiser is really awful for listening music.
It is very laud, but really, not for listening music.

Voice quality

Hello guys!
Ive read some reviews on the new HTC Diamond before i bought it, and they said that the sound during calls was crystal clear.
Just one wondering.. my old SE K800i had really good sound quality during calls. But my new HTC Diamond sounds awful and like "in a can". They here me where well, but i hear them pretty bad.
Do you guys have the same problem, or is it me? Ive removed all the plastics

No thoughts at all?

rnenjoy said:
No thoughts at all?
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Sadly, "some reviews" are not very objective. Or maybe they meant by "crystal clear" that you hear no static noise
Diamond have moderate sound quality, thats all. Like almost all WM devices (at least all I know of).

Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.

helterskelter said:
Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.
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That many times is related to the network, rather than the phone. My sound is superb.

helterskelter said:
Yep. It sounds like the person in the other end is sitting in a barrel. Worst sound quality I've ever had on a phone, sadly.
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I did a "blind" test of an iPhone (1st gen) and the diamond when it comes to sound quality of phone calls. The diamond won hands down. I know...not very scientific but the 4 "reviewers" all found the sound quality of the diamond better.

Well, iPhone never actually excelled in phone voice quality either. Not sure why iPhone was brought into comparison anyway, nobody said its better

halloj said:
That many times is related to the network, rather than the phone. My sound is superb.
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same here, over gsm the voice quality is better then my past phones.

My phone sounds rubbish compared to my old Artemis. That phone was fine and had a good speakerphone too. The one on my Diamond simply cannot be used because you can't hear what the other person is saying.
The Diamond is probably the worst phone I have had in a long time. I am seriously disappointed and I'm only still using it because I already sold my artemis.

as compared to my previous Nokia, voice quality seems to be seriously lacking in the midtones.
But i'll accept it because i know Nokia phones are phones 1st

Mr Farmer said:
as compared to my previous Nokia, voice quality seems to be seriously lacking in the midtones.
But i'll accept it because i know Nokia phones are phones 1st
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Well I used nice Nokia 6233, perfect as a phone I guess, for a few weeks just prior my Diamond, I couldn't wait for to have HTC again, their sound quality is just superb, if you have bad voice quality that's your network to blame and their stupid amr compression.
I wish I can say this for Diamond speaker also but I can't, it's a disaster, but I guess they can't put larger one in this tiny case, so who cares

Speaker quality any good??

Hi, those who owns the htc touch diamond 2 can you please advise what the speaker is like?.....more importantly is it loud?.....compared to the original diamond and touch pro?.....i dont care about sound quality.....i'm more interested in the loudness....because my old diamond have very soft speakers....the speakers on that was terrible....I miss most incoming calls.....thanks in advance.

Do you mean the loudness for ringtones or the speakephone? Bothe are pretty loud and clear, better than most phones I have had...

Good to hear this. On my old HTC Kaiser the speakers are awful.

I dont have one but Im guessing the touch pro 2's speaker is gonna be amaizing so if its like that its gonna be amazing, but I dont think it will have dual speakers or a dual mic so it might not be that good but I dont know about tha for sure cause I dont have one just saying the touch pro 2 is supposed to have amazing speakers I thinkl, persoonally I will go for that phone cause of the bigger screen and keybaord and dual mic and speakers but I understand how some would prefer the diamond cause its thinner and has a better camera.

HTC HD7 Camera and sound issues

Hi guys,
For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7? Any updates on the camera and sound issues.
The camera does not focus properly on distant objects not very far though.
The sound on the speakers is weak during calls. Need a booster app.
Thanks,

Get the Sound Enhancer app in the HTC Hub. I haven't used it yet but it gets good reviews.

jimbonics said:
Get the Sound Enhancer app in the HTC Hub. I haven't used it yet but it gets good reviews.
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Do you even own a HTC HD7. the sound enhancer app is just to control equalizer settings.

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For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7
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I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.

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Do you even own a HTC HD7. the sound enhancer app is just to control equalizer settings.
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Yes, I do own an HD7, and no, it's not really for just EQ settings. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, you only get EQ options when you use headphones.
It allows you to Choose Dolby or SRS for both Audio and Video. Equalizer specifically says for headphones or external speakers only. If you want to lump Dolby and SRS into that definition, fine.
All I can say, is that it makes quite a difference when playing youtube or netflix. Quite noticable.
( I use SRS )

you guys know if the htc 7 surround has a better camera? i heard the camera on this was horrid. may be getting the hd7 soon

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I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.
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Sorry there if i was too direct... but i am too damn frustrated with the phone... should have gone with an androd or even nokia.

nitroxn said:
Sorry there if i was too direct... but i am too damn frustrated with the phone... should have gone with an androd or even nokia.
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if you use your phone alot for camera nokia is the way to go. they have the best cameras. also, they are upgrading to meego, and stopping on crappy symbian so id wait till then. thats what i wanna do, love their phones but symbian sucks.

stratax said:
if you use your phone alot for camera nokia is the way to go. they have the best cameras. also, they are upgrading to meego, and stopping on crappy symbian so id wait till then. thats what i wanna do, love their phones but symbian sucks.
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Same here. What i would like to see is Windows Phone 7 OS on nokia devices. that would be a real winner and viable threat to Apple and Google.
But that is never going to happen i guess.

nitroxn said:
Same here. What i would like to see is Windows Phone 7 OS on nokia devices. that would be a real winner and viable threat to Apple and Google.
But that is never going to happen i guess.
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that would be awesome. im really sad at htcs quality. they make a "HD" phone and you cant even see angles of it lol. nokia would blast all these phones away, im waiting till acer releases their wp7, or asus. for now i will go with the HD7 even though the screen is poo compared to the focus

Audio said:
I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.
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To be honest it isn't like he isn't somewhat justified. I mean how can you mess up the speaker and camera on a phone that is nearly identical to its predacesor. My old school touch pro 2 speaker must be at least 3 times louder than this and the camera is just a joke. I put it side by side with an hd2 and it was like night and day.

hebrewhammer said:
To be honest it isn't like he isn't somewhat justified. I mean how can you mess up the speaker and camera on a phone that is nearly identical to its predacesor. My old school touch pro 2 speaker must be at least 3 times louder than this and the camera is just a joke. I put it side by side with an hd2 and it was like night and day.
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its mostly to do with the software. yeah i had the htc pure and the speaker was awesome in it. the camera is awesome on my mytouch 4g, the software is also awesome on sense. WP7 has sh*t camera software. thats all our cameras our pretty much, crappy cameras, and software to make them look good. Nokia is the only company that has made cell phone camera that are actually good without the software. and the touch pro two had two speakers in the back, or thats what i remember lol. it was one of the big features of it, just like the HTC surround. the HD7 has the big screen, thats the feature. HTC wont put all their quality into one phone cause then nobody would but the rest. you want good speaker - surround, you want big screen - HD7, you want awesome keyboard - HTC 7 pro, etc. they wont make a phone with a nice keyboard, perfect screen size, amoled screen, good speaker all into one. the closest they got is the incredible.

Hi guys,
For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7? Any updates on the camera and sound issues.
The camera does not focus properly on distant objects not very far though.
The sound on the speakers is weak during calls. Need a booster app.
Thanks,
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I know how you feel. I hate the camera and speakers. Honestly, if this phone wasn't free and didn't look so damn impressive I would have sold it.
and if i didn't hate my touchpro 2 so much. i was ready to take anything

laynee04 said:
I know how you feel. I hate the camera and speakers. Honestly, if this phone wasn't free and didn't look so damn impressive I would have sold it.
and if i didn't hate my touchpro 2 so much. i was ready to take anything
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I'm probably gonna be selling it for the touch pro 3 when that arrives.

stratax said:
that would be awesome. im really sad at htcs quality. they make a "HD" phone and you cant even see angles of it lol. nokia would blast all these phones away, im waiting till acer releases their wp7, or asus. for now i will go with the HD7 even though the screen is poo compared to the focus
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Huh? The viewing angles are perfectly normal. Quit being biased.
stratax said:
its mostly to do with the software. yeah i had the htc pure and the speaker was awesome in it. the camera is awesome on my mytouch 4g, the software is also awesome on sense. WP7 has sh*t camera software. thats all our cameras our pretty much, crappy cameras, and software to make them look good. Nokia is the only company that has made cell phone camera that are actually good without the software. and the touch pro two had two speakers in the back, or thats what i remember lol. it was one of the big features of it, just like the HTC surround. the HD7 has the big screen, thats the feature. HTC wont put all their quality into one phone cause then nobody would but the rest. you want good speaker - surround, you want big screen - HD7, you want awesome keyboard - HTC 7 pro, etc. they wont make a phone with a nice keyboard, perfect screen size, amoled screen, good speaker all into one. the closest they got is the incredible.
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WP7 camera software is really good, idk what you're thinking

[Q] how is the loudspeaker?

we've known the old desire(dhd inc)'s speaker is almost a crap.hope htc do well this time.
it is the only point that may break my deal!

Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.

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Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.
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yes. but i don't think "ok" is enough,as that can mean they don't care about the loudspeaker/sound quality. hope they compare to samsung or nokia devices.

Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!

It seems you can compare the speaker on the IncredibleS with the Desire, Z & HD. That's really a shame.
Currently I'm still on the Touch Pro2 mainly because the speaker quality is actually pretty good. Was thinking on buying the DesireZ a while ago but decided to skip it due to the bad speaker. Now the IncredibleS suffers the same problem.
Wonder if my next device will be an HTC. But look at the alternative. Devices from Samsung and LG suffer from LED notifications. What's wrong with these manufacturers?
The saga continues...

Not at all .....i have both phones and the incredible s is noticeably different to desire hd....i mean its no beats by dre.....but there is a noticeabe improvement.....when holding both phones hand in hand and playing same song.....you can barely hear the really tinny sound of dhd over the sound of incredible s.......dont get nme wrong there is till a lot of room for improvement by htc

I dont have a DHD but had the original desire and the incredible s is definitely better sounding from the speaker phone. Its not great & I wouldn't listen to music without decent headphones but it is improved none the less. I only use it for sat nav & its perfectly fine for that.

Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.

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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear

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It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear
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That's kind of what I was hoping for but is not something I was able to hear from the time I spend with the IS. Guess it needs more thorough testing to appreciate the differences.

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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Sat-Nav is one of the main features of the phone for me, I used it on the Hero all the time but the screen was tiny. I use Co-Pilot, and the instructions are nice and clear for me, and the bigger screen makes a huge difference.

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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Hmm as for sat nav i doubt either phone will really be on par for such a task on the audio front but as stated Incredible S has shown some improvement in music quality....but to be able to play turn by turn direction over car noise and traffic.....i doubt it will.
Also...
Visually both phones are good......as for use as a sat nav....the DHD has a larger screen for maps etc but the Incredible S has a better anti glare screen and much more vivid colours.....

Played with the HTC Incredible S. Loudspeaker is better than on the DesireHD. But my HTC TouchPro2 is still louder and the has more "body".
Currently also looking at the Optimus 2X by LG. This has a better sound chip. But haven't tested this in real life just yet.

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Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!
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It looks like recent HTC products have speaker problem (at least it happens on my nexus one and MT4), but my TP2 doesn't.

The speaker on the I-S is without doubt 1000 times better than the garbage HTC put on the DHD.
The DHD speakerwas rubbish for music and I could never hear youtube videos without cupping my hand over the back of the phone but still to no avail.
Having got an I-S the first thing I did was compare the two side by side, and I cant even hear the DHD playing due to the loudness, clarity and depth of the I-S when both on SRS ...such an improvement, well done HTC.
For such a good phone, HTC really did betray the customer with what they put in the DHD...yes, its great with earphones, but who always wants to put earphones in..do they think nobody ever wants to show other ppl things they are watching.
Anyway, that isnt the only area of supremacy IMHO..the screen is much better, I dont know if its cos its smaller, but its clearer, not washed out, and has colour depth comparative to SAMOLED...you dont realise how bad the DHD screen is until they are side by side..you feel as if you have been robbed from day 1.
The viewing angles are amazing on the I-S cos of these issues too, clearly viewable at all acute angles.
The moulded handset is very comfortable, lighter which is betteras regardless of what ppl say, why would anyone want a heavier handset????
The lip around the screen is much better than the DHD too, almost non existent, certainly not noticeable...the on off button is more distinct too.
I dint mean to bash the DHD, Im just annoyed as I bought one when it first came out and it was very expensive and apart from the solid build quality, HTC really did rob the purchaser at every level...so my contentness with the I-S is a consolation

I think the speaker is pretty good as well!
But then again, I'm coming from the Xperia X10 so quite everything is better on this phone! xD
Such an awesome toy

hell ye, the speaker is banging

Having used the HTC Desire HD and Desire Z, and now having switched to Incredible S I can say both the earpiece and the speaker phone are way better on the Incredible S.
I also used the TP2....the earpiece on the I-S is as good as the TP2. The speaker phone is not as good...as I have not seen any phone with a speaker phone as good as the TP2 till date (that was awesome).
Having said that, the speaker phone is quite decent on a stand alone basis and any day better than the D-HD which was SH*T!!!

Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget

DaanJordaan said:
Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget
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that says it all