Kaiser TyTn II and Bluetooth Audio - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

i really hope its me............. i hope its something i am doing wrong
i have heard virtually all HTC products...........and everyone has paired up just fine with my car bluetooth kit (BMW 3 series, 06 plate)
i eagerly awaited the Kaiser as the complete utopic device.............and i still think it is..............except..............THE WEEDY, TINNY, LOW VOLUME audio when on Handsfree !!!!!!!!!!!!
my carkit allows upto 4 devices to be memorised, so i have paired my HTC Touch, my HTC S710 and the TyTn II to it.......... the first 2 are perfect, rich, bassy sound with good volume that is perfectly audible even on the motorway.................
the TyTn II is VERY low, just about audible in stationary traffic and not at all bassy........... you remember those weedy HiFi systems that had about 5w Total output and could be bought for £29.99 !!!!!
i have seen a few posts saying the same thing........... i wonder if it is HTC's ROM that has this??? what about the T-Mobile users or perhaps the Dopod users??
i guess it is objective........... if you have never had a HTC device, you would have nothing to judge it by and therefore you are probably satisfied......but i have had LOADS of different devices, HTC and Mobile carrier branded, and none are as pathetic as the TyTn II on Bluetooth audio........... it is seriously stopping me using it as my main phone device which is such a big shame
PLEASE......... if anyone has any reg tweaks, rom upgrades, suggestions, ideas let me know.............. this £450 device is nowhere near as good as my wife's £30 mobile phone when it comes to audio...............
cheers
Mark
PS have to say, the audio is fine when you listen into the internal speaker or on speakerphone, so not sure it is the audio chip ???

Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.

waremaster said:
Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.
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that sounds good.............but as well as the Bluetooth volume its also the quality of the audio that i find hard to explain, no bass, just really tinny
but....... i would be happy to even increase the volume only at this stage!

Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.

Sleuth255 said:
Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.
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yep, bluetooth active, tap the icon, both sides up at maximum. place a call, turn 'in call' volume up to maximum, still really low and weedy !
tried the steering wheel volume and also the radio volume and still no joy!
as i said, all other devices are fine, just the tytn!
thanks for the suggestion though

maybe theres a problem with the bluetooth/wifi ariel as i have issues with my bluetooth totally failing when i turn on wifi

It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only

joedoe said:
It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only
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if you dont want it in mono try PocketPlayer it will more then likely fix your problem. I love audible books, and this is now my default program for listening to them over bluetooth.

Definitely something wrong with mine. I think we should keep communicating with HTC until they fix it. My Blueant Z9 is unusable. No bass, and when I had the volume turned all the way up [both phone and headset], it almost broke my ear drum. Yet, I hardly can make out the sound coming from the ear set. I had no problem with 8525. It definitely has something to do with the antenna or the driver.
I am hoping HTC will respond to this asap.

I'm using a JawBone and what I notice, is when I use the headset to increase volume, the volume doesn't seem to actually be increasing, even tho the headset is giving acknowledgment beeps.
Seems I don't really have any control over the bluetooth headset volume. Nothing I can perceive anyway.
-James

I can say that the fidelity on the bluetooth stereo is absolutely awesome on mine. I just used Coreplayer so I could boost the volume a tad using the preamp settings.

maybe each profile in your car kit stores unique settings for bass etc - have you tried fiddling with its settings?

There are several threads running about this. I have Jawbones and it appears that it's mainly the phone BT audio that has issues. I can use BT audio toggle and divert Coreplayer or SlingBox or iGuidance Nav sounds out to the Jawbone and they sound loud, bassy and clear.
I then place a call and the sound is wimpy and low. It's not and antenna problem, I use BT internetsharing and BT headsets all day long with this Kaiser with good range. It's "hopefully" a software issue between the phone's audio output to bluetooth. The phone's audio quality on the naitive phone's earpiece and speaker are very good quality, better quality, than my 8525 had.
It's frustrating, it's the only major flaw in the phone and HTC seems clueless in all the responses I've seen to date.

just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark

boyo69 said:
just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark
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Perhaps this tweak could be included in Chainfire's utility?

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Tytn II Audio Very Quiet With Bluetooth

Hi,
I have a Tytn II and I the volume when using it with my bluetooth headphones is very quiet.
I have tried to apply the following hacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269638
When I use TCPMP and increase the Preamp, it does get louder but the sound is distorted.
Any help will be appreciated.
I suppose you did already put the volume of your telephone to a max?
My Bluetooth stereo (Jabra BT 620s) works flawlessly (and LOUD!)
chezzorilla said:
I suppose you did already put the volume of your telephone to a max?
My Bluetooth stereo (Jabra BT 620s) works flawlessly (and LOUD!)
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AND one thing you have to remember, in the last (that I saw but may have changed since then) IEEE directive for BT audio, all devices have to start at a specific dB audio level for humanic safety. That is once connected, you have to turn the volume up on the device!! Should be in it's manual. Oh and it will revert to that default level on each connect. Anything else is against (the last but not the final!!) IEEE directive.
Man, do I feel stupid. This did the job guys. I turned the phone volume up. I thought by turnig the wheel on the phone that this did that, but I used my stylus to turn it up from the speaker icon and it worked!
Explode said:
Man, do I feel stupid. This did the job guys. I turned the phone volume up. I thought by turnig the wheel on the phone that this did that, but I used my stylus to turn it up from the speaker icon and it worked!
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Excellent pal... Join the "I have learned' clan.. we have all been there at one time or other.

Standard Headset Issue

Hi there
I'm having something of a weird problem. I was playing around with my MDA Compact IV (might i add: this housing looks much slicker then the standard), and i pulled out the headset while listening to music in the standard TouchFLO mediaplayer. When i put the headset back in the audio-quality became really crappy, as if i was calling to someone who's holding up a radio on his side of the line. This also now affects Windows Media Player, but not the FM Radio. Has anybody else had this issue?
Today I used my MDA Compact IV for the first time as a mp3 player, with the standard (crappy) headphones.
I've noticed that the sound is SH!T.
No bass at all, tried the 'audio-booster' option, but the sound doesn't get better.
Than I tried the FM-modus, and noticed that the radio sound was better.
Not verry good, but BETTER....
HOW comes? Are the standard headphones crap? Is the 'soundprocessor' crap, or what?
At this moment it's not usable as a good mp3 player...
And what about the volume? At max, it's still not really loud.
EDIT: Strange.... unplugged/plugged the headphones again, tried it in windows mediaplayer (first I tried it in the touchflow audio player) and now it sounds better, also more/deeper bass, in both player.
But still: The sound is absolutely nothing compared to a good Ipod. Is this due to the crappy headphone (thought that the mda compact IV headphone isn't the same as the touch diamond one...)
Well thing is, using the Audio Booster i had the audio to pretty decent quality, nice and warm with enough bass. So then i yanked out the headset and now it's ****ty... What gives?
crappy sound quality resolved
hi guys,
i got this problem a couple of times, and it was really annoying as i knew it wasnt right cos listening to music was the first thing i did with my diamond and i was amazed by the sound quality, but i had exactly the same issue a few days later, tried to listen to music and audio quality was so poor it hurt my ears! so i did a hard reset and the sound quality was perfect again. then a few days later it happened again. i have narrowed it down to installing 'advanced config'. both times the issue came about was after i had installed advanced config. i havnt installed since and my sound has been perfect for ages. i have installed games and other apps and still fine, so for me, im damn sure its advanced config that did it, hope this helps, just do a hard reset and it will be fine again, just keep an eye on what happens after you install something!
Okay, found the answer:
There is a BUG in the AUDIO-BOOSTER.
Try:
Plug in your headphone, choose MUSIC in TFL3D, go to menu-audio-booster, turn it on, listen to the music, unplug the headphone while music is playing. Plug it in again and you here that all the bass is gone and quality is crap.
Stop music, disable the Audio-Booster option, play your music again and the sound quality is good again!
So DON'T use the AUDIO-BOOSTER, cause everytime you unplug your headphones, the music becomes crap again!
Wow thanks, that really helped d'you suppose HTC will bring out a fix for this?
Another solution
Hi everyone,
You're right, there is a bug with the bass sound on the Diamond.
After some experiences, i found this way to solve the problem:
1- Plug de headphones (original)
2- Open de Radio Fm application and after hearing some sound, close it.
3- Goto the music tab and play the MP3 (with equalizer on).
4- Change de volume.
After this steps normally there is bass again.
By the way, does anyone know if the use of other headphones (not the original) improves the quality of Diamond's sound (Hi frequencies) ?
I want to buy an usb adapter for "normal" jack headphones but I don't have idea whether it is worth.
Regards
i found that bluetooth headsets are not affected by this problem, whenever i had this problem, if i used a A2DP headset, it was not affected by the loss of bass or any quality at all, just the USB headset was affected

Does Diamond Bluetooth suck or is it my HF?

I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
I own a Anycom BH-100 and it shows constant hissing as soon as connected to any device (PC USB dongle, HTC Magician / Hermes / Diamond).
Good thing is, when the music plays it's nearly gone ( = can't hear it anymore).
Hm, I suppose it bluetooth really is that bad. It hisses when I try to connect to my HP portable too.
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
So you wanna tell us, that you don't experience any difference between your headset being switched totally off and being on but no actual music playing?
3030 user here.I'd described the hissing present but not so much bothering. Not that I have much BT HF experience before, used entry level Jabra BT135 with N6120c. There I'd say was little bit of less hissing.
tha_rami said:
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
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Well lag/slight stuttering I would understand since it is wireless, but this is a constant background hiss independant of any lag.
Well f**k me sideways on a wheelbarrow!
The Diamond is not at fault at all. Its the Jabra that STINKS.
I tested a DS200 here at work at its got nothing of the hiss on the 3030. On the 3030, I clearly hear when its activated (*ELECTRONIC CLICK*hsssssssssss...) and likewise when it goes to sleep. On the Sony, I hear *nothing*. Its utterly silent. Well, aside from the music.
I'm getting this exchanged ASAP. And to think I was blaiming the Diamond
no problem with my diamond!. excellent quality both with my stereo headphones playing music or with car BT device. the connection is instantaneous and no background noises.
i must be lucky...lol. i have no lag with iGO8, my camera is taking good pictures and generally speaking i have nothing to complain about i am embarrassed...feeling left out
I thought I'd resurect my thread with an update... It appears that its NOT the Jabra at fault. I got it exchanged for a new one (the store didnt have a DS-200 at this time) and my conclusions stands at this:
- Listening closer to the Diamonds top speaker (like putting my ear to it, not good to do lol), it has the exact same type of noise. Its just that the volume of sound is so much greater its immiedietly drowned out. In other words, the Diamond behaves like this.
- Listening closer to the Diamonds package wire HF, it once again has the exact same type of noise, but here it is considerably lower and you really have to listen hard to it to hear: its not really noticable during playback even on lower volumes. So once again, this is how the Diamond sounds.
- The Jabra 3030 exaggerate the noise 10x, hence why its so annoying and with poor quality. Listening on low volume is drowned out by noise.
I got to see if I can try my buddies DS-200 again, listen closer this time... I'm starting to suspect that its a matter of how good the signal processing is on the Jabra, due to the Diamond sending out a noisy signal. If the DS-200 handle audio like the wired HF (same behaviour, much less noise), then its obviously "as good as it gets".
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
poedgirl said:
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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I suppose that's possible... But did you listen real close? I cant hear the noise from the speaker unless I stick my ear to it and the wired noise is very subtle, unnoticable during playback. Maybe I just got sensitive ears
I have tried the DS-200 again and got a background noise level that's much closer to the wired level, though a little notch higher. And its far, far lower than the Jabra. In particular, the electronic sound on turn on/off is not that noticable while the Jabra make my ear twitch.
murklor said:
I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
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I have a Jabra BT3030 and it works just fine in fact its perfect... Are you using a stock rom by anychance... if so what version...? you may want to use a cooked rom with the latest O/S.. as this does solve alot of BT problems...!
I am using the latest official (1.93 I believe it is). I dont quite see how a cooked rom will change the bluetooth performance of the handsfree (as a sidenote, I have tested removing those two bluetooth variables in the registry that according to another site would vastly improve quality: it did absolutely nothing)... But granted, I may just try it tonight if I ever do figure out which one to use, lol.

Stereo bluetooth headset

Which stereo bluetooth headset works with the HD2?
The SonyEricsson HBH-IS800 is really nice, but you cannot control the volume of this headset.
Nokia BH 500
I noticed that! You can't control the volume of any bluetooth A2DP devices. SO STUPID!! There must be a fix for this?
Sony DR-BT21G works as well with my Leo as it does with my Walkman. Volume control and track controls both work. Not too sure that it works with phone calls though, as I haven't yet tried it.
bazzybabes said:
Sony DR-BT21G works as well with my Leo as it does with my Walkman. Volume control and track controls both work. Not too sure that it works with phone calls though, as I haven't yet tried it.
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Just bought a Jabra BT3030 which was poor - volume was very low and sound quality was not great. The alternative was the Sony DR-BT21G - whats the volume and music quality like?
im using motorola s9 with wow driver on my leo .all buttons are working and sound is quite good.
Using the Sennheisser MM100 and they work very well.
Cheers
LB
I got a sony DR-BT20NX works very well for movie and music, works well for hadns free too on all phones ive had in the last 2 years and with my PC and PS3, Only problem is the mic is halfway down your chest so not too good when outside.
bill340 said:
Which stereo bluetooth headset works with the HD2?
The SonyEricsson HBH-IS800 is really nice, but you cannot control the volume of this headset.
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jabra hallo
bill340 said:
Which stereo bluetooth headset works with the HD2?
The SonyEricsson HBH-IS800 is really nice, but you cannot control the volume of this headset.
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I got same issue, is it is a bug? or the compatible issue with bluetooth 2.0 headset?
bill340 said:
Which stereo bluetooth headset works with the HD2?
The SonyEricsson HBH-IS800 is really nice, but you cannot control the volume of this headset.
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I've this headset and I can't control the volume even by the phone...
I just ordered some Jaybird JB-200s so I`m hoping this will work with the phone... this phone already cost me a few extra euros just on accesories already and I don`t want a pair of useless earphones... I love JB though...
albianir said:
I've this headset and I can't control the volume even by the phone...
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Hi,
I have this headset also and i'm satisfied with the quality of the sound. The volume is just right for me out of the box. So i didn't notice until now you can't change the volume from the phone.
I added two keys to blue-tooth registry, but i don't think it added to the sound-quality. Maybe there is a key for that volume. Still looking for a tool to do that. What it does do is randomly give me no audio during playback for 3 or 4 seconds :-( (Witch is really annoying). I get compliments from people when i''m on the phone about the audio quality. Even when riding my bike in windy conditions. So thats a good thing. I think the cord could do with another 5 centimeter. I think they forget about the difference in neck size of western people when they developed the thing Japan ;-).
Battery life is better than my old one.
Before this i had the HBH-DS980 on the TYTNII, but the cord broke. This one can display the phonebook and change volume and skip to the next song etc., but i think the size of the HBH-IS800 and sound quality makes up for that.
I'd like to hear from other owners of this device if they experience the same audio interruption problem.
Rgrds, Helssblade.
iam using Sony HBHDS980
Everything works fine including,
1. Music player in manila music tab play,pause,next, prev & volume.
2. Contacts display 7 browsing
3. Call history browsing.
4. In call volume adjustment.
Only problem is,
Need to increase the incall volume after every reconnection.
Nokia BH 503 works great with the LEO. Even coreplayer works with the pause play and next buttons.
Hi,
I'm listening music with the HBH-DS970 Bluetooth headphones.
I noticed, that the soundquality is quite poor, especially the high notes.
Are there any tweaky to improve the soundquality through bluetooth?
Thanks
Philips Taster SHB7110 works perfect!
Hello everybody!
I purchased this headset and works perfectly with my HTC HD2 (I'm installed previously the SRS WOWHD v1.5.1.0). Clear sound (for me) and very comfortable!
http://shop.philips.co.uk/servlet/C...ale=en_GB&SiteID=rpeeub2c&productID=124508000
albianir said:
I've this headset and I can't control the volume even by the phone...
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I have the same headset and the souns is like am radio,,I think at the problem is in the bluetooth configuration,this phone is coming whit bluetooth 2.1 and maybe this is one of the problems,the another one is att you cant no change the audio parameters in bluetoth like I do in my xperia,so spensive and so meny problems
HBH-IS800
DR-BT160AS...
...is working fine for me.
Everything like Volume, Skipping, Searching, Pause/Play and talking via the headsetfunction ist fine.
Voice is clear at the other end of the "wire"
Really light and works for about 6 hrs. on normal volume (hearing until jogging)
Just got my set of Jaybird JB200...
I had to edit this post and write my updated impressions about the set... The next/prev buttons now work like a charm, even with the main Sense player, which I still prefer over players like PocketPlayer or Core Player... The peering is still kinda sketchy... The phone doesn`t ask for the key of the set and sometimes it does not register Stereo sound from the first try... It seems the way to make it register stereo is having a stereo feed live... like a song playing... The sound itself is very good, I`m satisfied with the quality and the look of the earphones...
If anyone knows a solution for the peering problems please give me a tip...

Bluetooth remote control for phone?

I'm looking for a remote to actually control my phone over bluetooth. I ride a motorcycle and can't control the phone with gloves on so I'm looking for something to give me play/pause/skip/volume with hard buttons. If anybody has any ideas I would really appreciate it!
Thanks!
I know my motorola's had buttons dedicated to music control. I think the model # were ht820. they were a2dp stereo bluetooth headphones. those models are pretty old, so you can probably find some newer a2dp headphones that have what you want.
i have had this pair of stereo bluetooth headset for about a year and a half, i absolutely love them they sound great they have easy hard controls and battery will out last most droids, you will charge your phone 2 or more times before having to recharge these, they have buttons for startting voice activated call,hang up,mute, volume up/down, song skip forward/backward, play/pause,base boost, and one more great feature is they have a option that allows you to turn on an open mic so you can more easily hear what going on around you when your music is paused or not on a call. they cost $80 when i got mine now they are about half that.
here is a link, i got mine from cincinatti bell store...
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-903-US-BackBeat-Headphones/dp/B001TK3AC0
i'm pretty sure the incredible supports headphone controls, so you could buy headphones with controls built into them for media. usually these are small buttons directly attached to the headphone cord.

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