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How bad is the IE bug?

Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John

Which bug?
I use PIE with PIEPlus 2.2 and it works fine.
It is slow though, compared to my old Magician WM2003SE But thats obvious (WM2003SE is not flash based OS, no persistent-memory, thats why faster).
I am waiting Opera Mobile 9, which I am not sure will ever be released!
Duke Nukem Forever

I don't notice any difference with the Hermes. What bug are you talking about exactly?
By the by: opera mini beta 4 runs great on the Kaiser.
johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
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Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit. The page download times are probably on a par with the TyTn. The Touchflo finger scrolling works better (once you get the hang of it).
Opera Mini works faster and scrolls OK.
Mike

Im not having any issues with PIE in general and I'm already getting used to the scroll feature. In fact I picked up my Trinity today and found it annoying when I had to use those fiddly scroll bars.
I wonder how it compares to the experience on the new iPod Touch?
I heard from a friend that the browsing experience on that was very intuitive - but then he is an apple nerd!
My bigger issue with the Tytn II is still the radio used. I am having real problems with the gprs/3G switch and both phone and internet connection have major problems coping when I am in 1 or 2 bars of 3G.
And I am still rarely getting a full 3G signal which was not the probelm with the later radios I have on my Tytn and Trinity.
I will try my Vodafone SIM tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.

gogol said:
Duke Nukem Forever
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duke911 said:
you read my mind
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"What ya waitin for Christmas"
Mike

mikechannon said:
Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit.
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this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...

Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?

New ROM will not fix that because it will be still the same IE.
IE is just slow, that's all.
Try Opera Mini and enjoy the super fast browsing experience.
You will never look back to IE, trust me.
johnk1973 said:
this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
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Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
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Phew! Took a bit of work, but worth it
All thats left is for it to be set as the default browser and take links from emails.
Cheers for that buddy.

The shortcut part just doesn't work for me. I use Esmertec and my shortcut based on what I see in the appsdb folder is
#30"\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s3_
Whatever I do it gives me the message - Could not find MIDlet suite s3_
The file in appsdb is s3_suite.jar. Even still, I tried from number s0_ to s3_ to no avail.
Hope somebody can help.

gogol said:
Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
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I get that same error - unable to find Suite 0 or 1 or whatever I put in.
Also the change in the selector file has my OperaMini still asking for permission. Any suggestions????
Thanks

Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?

jackjohnson said:
Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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i could only get it to work witn Cloudyfa's JBed, not with the default JMM.

I finally got it to work with Cloudyfa's JBed. For some reason, JBed wasn't installed properly. It wasn't showing up and Remove Programs. I reinstalled it, reinstalled Opera, applied the shortcut/network warning fix, and all is working perfectly.
For other people having this problem, make sure JBed is showing up in the Programs list and in Remove Programs before you install Opera. Seemed to do the trick.

I will be doing all of this tonight, Thanks for the tips.

Same here, I too get the error message could not find suite s0_. The number is correct, but i noticed i dont have any .jar files in the appdb folder... Any ideas?

I also didn't have any .jar files in my appdb folder. I did see some files with s2_ extensions (eg. s2_.jah and _s2.obj) so I changed my suite link to s2_ and it worked. Once I got the link to work, I then copied the selector.utf file from appdb to my PC and ran the Fix.exe editor on it and copied it back to the Kaiser. Works perfectly with no more permission dialog, thanks so much for sharing!
My squence;
1-Install Jbed
2-Install Opera Mini and test to verify it works.
3-Create link in programs folder and test
4-Copy off selector.utf and "fix", copy back and it should all be good, with no more permissions required.
5-Map the program link to a hard key.
6-Crack a cold beverage of choice, life is good

Opera Mini 4 weird problem...

I've downloaded the browser via the website from within my Tilt and it downloads and launches fine... the program is great.
But when I close it, there's no indication of it anywhere in my phone. It's not in Programs, it's not even in 'Remove Programs.' I've browsed both the device and the Storage Card (where I had it installed) and it's nowhere to be found...
I've also went back to the website and attempted to reinstall it but the program recognizes the previous installation and then launches. But again, no luck with trying to run it later on.
I know a bunch of you have had luck, hoping someone has stumbled with this and found a fix.
Thanks!

Dude,
Opera Mini 4 is indeed a java application and you'll find it when you open up Midlet Manager (or whatever the java manager software is on the Tilt)in the Programs menu of your device. Start/Programs/Midlet Manager, then you should see the Opera Icon.
Hope This Helps
C.

Thanks! After looking in Tools, I saw the eJava icon and sure enough, it's listed in there like you said once I ran it.
That's what I get for coming from a non-WM set of phones... lol.

Glad to help! Don't worry everyone here has been a WM virgin at some point. I have to say it's very hard to give up once you get used to how the software works and also when it doesn't!!
take it easy
C.

Stinkeymole said:
Glad to help! Don't worry everyone here has been a WM virgin at some point. I have to say it's very hard to give up once you get used to how the software works and also when it doesn't!!
take it easy
C.
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Tell me about it, I cant seem to get along with non WM phones now. Have a K850i at the moment but thats gonna change soon.

Stinkeymole said:
Glad to help! Don't worry everyone here has been a WM virgin at some point. I have to say it's very hard to give up once you get used to how the software works and also when it doesn't!!
take it easy
C.
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Thanks! Yeah I'm slowly but surely become a believer in this device. So much to do... so many option... so many...
/headexplodes

How to make Opera 9.5 act as IE?

any ideas how to get Opera 9.5 to act as if it was IE, or at least PIE???
there's a WiFi spot I always use, but whenever I use my Kaiser, I can only use PIE!!! nothing else works!!!
and as you know PIE sucks
there was a similar option in NetFront as I recall... but I couldn't find it in Opera??
I really appreciate all your help
thanks

how does 'nothing else work' exactly?
if you wnat opera to present itself as PIE, navigate to 'opera:config'-the setting's (and loadsa others) there somewhere.

Nothing else means: The only web browser that works on that hotspot is PIE, while Opera mini, Opera 9, opera 8.65...etc don't
and I have allready searched the config... but no good
I might be missing sothing though!
thanks

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how does 'nothing else work' exactly?
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I asked how they dont work, not for a definition of the word nothing duke911.
The behaviour of the other browsers could point one of us in the right direction - insisting nothing works wont mate.
It's simply that 'nothing else works' tells people very little!

Ok mate
As for Opera 9.5: when I go to, let's say: google.com, I am redirected to the homepage of the ISP!! but when I use PIE, I can surf normally, except for the fact you can't really surf with PIE
Opera min cant' open any page at all...
other explorers either do as Opera 9 does, or as opera min!
BTW, I have searched the registry hoping to find something that can help, but came up with nothing
cheers mate

The ISPs page - it wouldn't happen to be a page put up by the operator of the hotspot would it?
Feel free to correct me, but it sounds like it may be a (normally) paid-for service, into which you have to login to be granted access through a proxy..? If it is, can you log in?
I know a loada things you could try from laptop (windows OSs), not that many from WM though.
you said you 'config... but no good' - did you try geting Opera to present itself as IE? if you did, did it make any difference at all?

mad_tunes said:
The ISPs page - it wouldn't happen to be a page put up by the operator of the hotspot would it?
Feel free to correct me, but it sounds like it may be a (normally) paid-for service, into which you have to login to be granted access through a proxy..? If it is, can you log in?
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Well, That's the strange thing!!!!
When I use PIE, I can use WiFi free of charge, but when I use Opera 9.5 I am redirected to the ISP page, and it does not have any place to login... just a normal home page...!!!
BTW, everyone at that cofee shop is using WiFi on their laptops/phone..etc free of charge
you said you 'config... but no good' - did you try geting Opera to present itself as IE? if you did, did it make any difference at all?
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I meant I looked in the config for something that let Opera present itself as IE, But I could NOT find any thing....
are you aware of any option like that in the Opera Config??
thanks mate

Everything is ok now...
I tried reinstalling opera, and trying different build...but that did not work...
but after I refreshed the ISP homepage couple of times... opera now works...
still there is a strange thing... when I tried replying to this topic from opera (typing in the yellow box)... Opera shuts down!!!
anyway.... thanks a lot mad_tunes... you have been very helpful
cheers

I've had opera mobile Build 1126 keel over and close on me a couple of times - tends to do it with the same sites, they must have included something it didn't get on with.
If you haven't already, give build 1184 a go - there are no huge noticable changes, but I've found it to be more stable.
I found it through this site, I think it was from here: HTC Diamond Opera 9.5 Build 1184
'tunes

Flash in Opera Mobile

Hi Guys,
I'm having problems with flash when using Opera Mobile 9.5 beta, Opera Mobile 9.5, Opera Mobile old versions and Mini Opera. I can't seem to view anything on flash, I've tried seveal flash application e.g. Adobe Flash lite, Adobe Flash player from their website. The message I keep on getting is:-
"Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. If that doesn't fix the problem, do a hard refresh ( press 'F5' while holding down 'ctrl')
PLEASE HELP - Have I missed something in setting option apart from enabling JavaScript?
Can someone please share with me a 100% compatible flash app with Opera Mobile?

From what I gather, this is a problem with any Opera and IE. But they say Skyfire is going to solve this. But you have to go on the waiting list to get it.
But..., if someone has a solution for this issue, I would love to know.

Let me refer you to the Opera Mobile site:
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
At the bottom you will notice "ActiveX is disabled — Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work." in the Known Issues list. You aren't having problems - flash is not supported yet in the 9.5 beta.

From experience I got tired of dilly dally'ing with opera mobile. Its slow when compared to Skyfire or Opera mini. (even on 3g its slow) If you want flash try to get skyfire. My tilt is rockin skyfire and opera mini. Both have their pros and cons.

is says directly on the opera website flash and activex don't work

Valtamr said:
Let me refer you to the Opera Mobile site:
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
At the bottom you will notice "ActiveX is disabled — Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work." in the Known Issues list. You aren't having problems - flash is not supported yet in the 9.5 beta.
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thank you for enlightenment

I did manage to get flash working at one point after extensive configuration of settings but at this stage it isn't even worth it at all...
It is so slow and you will end up soft resetting each time you run a flash video site i.e. youtube.
Dulal,
Why don't you try "youtubeplay" I have it on my phone and think it's great application.

Thanks Mr Invisible Sense man!!
I've got "Youtubeplay" (attached) but I don't like it much as you can only watch specific videos (as toenail said).
I'm thiniking of getting "HTC diamond streaming player" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417005 back to view my video clips from YouTube unless you can suggest a better solution.
I can't wait until the weekend as I'm going to flash again (to L26's V10TL), I'm not to happy with HD's Lite ROM as you suggested. I'm getting loads of problem and it's very laggy on my device. I'm wondering if it could be the HardSPL I'm using because I've still got version 1 installed on my Kaiser. Which version of HardSPL are you using for that ROM and would you advice me to upgrade - V3.56?
Anyway, I'm off to work now. Speak to you soon Mr Invisible man!
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I did manage to get flash working at one point after extensive configuration of settings but at this stage it isn't even worth it at all...
It is so slow and you will end up soft resetting each time you run a flash video site i.e. youtube.
Dulal,
Why don't you try "youtubeplay" I have it on my phone and think it's great application.
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Yeap skyfire will get flash playing for you, but it is (as of this release) the most annoying app on my phone. No stop button (stop load) , and the friggin zoom, unless you have fingers the size of a stylus it will annoy the **** out of you.
I use opera mini for all but video or aol radio type programs which i run in skyfire. opera mini even lets me admin my full website now.
Hopefully theyll take some of the suggestions they're getting and make skyfire a little more user friendly.

Can someone attach/point me to Skyfire? or is it not a freeware?

Dulal Alom said:
Can someone attach/point me to Skyfire? or is it not a freeware?
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How about www.skyfire.com....just a thought. Ya know, people are usually pretty reluctant to help people who don't first try to help themselves (there are many, many threads here pertaining to Skyfire...and you'd almost have to try hard not to stumble upon one of them on accident).

So now we just need someone to provide us non-americans with a US-number... Or does Skyfire only work for the US-people...?
Edit: OK... as I see it you can only sign up to become a Beta 2 tester - and they don't even know when they will start to work on the Beta 2 version... So again: Where does one get Skyfire????

Foxhunter123 said:
So now we just need someone to provide us non-americans with a US-number... Or does Skyfire only work for the US-people...?
Edit: OK... as I see it you can only sign up to become a Beta 2 tester - and they don't even know when they will start to work on the Beta 2 version... So again: Where does one get Skyfire????
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Yes, it is only working for the U.S. right now. I'm confused as to why you want it so badly.....since you apparently haven't read anything about it at all, or researched anything pertaining to it.
Where does one get it? By signing up for the beta like everyone else. A cab file will do you no good as you need to have an actual account and verification. You would've found out all of this had you bothered to read anything on their site, or searched this one.......and had you done any kind of search here, you probably also would've found that if you put in the beta code "cnet100" when you register, you will get in to the closed beta immediately......if they haven't shut that down yet.

Your code didn't work, but I found that "bgenius" does and I got the sms to download, but when I run skyfire it fails to authenticate even though they have my number and everything.

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Your code didn't work, but I found that "bgenius" does and I got the sms to download, but when I run skyfire it fails to authenticate even though they have my number and everything.
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It's working fine for me... even flash. Most impressed

Haven't tried it myself yet

damn valtamr takes his forum business serious.

mikeypic said:
Haven't tried it myself yet
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It is asking for a email and pass word.. what to do when we install this file

Valtamr said:
Yes, it is only working for the U.S. right now. I'm confused as to why you want it so badly.....since you apparently haven't read anything about it at all, or researched anything pertaining to it.
Where does one get it? By signing up for the beta like everyone else. A cab file will do you no good as you need to have an actual account and verification. You would've found out all of this had you bothered to read anything on their site, or searched this one.......and had you done any kind of search here, you probably also would've found that if you put in the beta code "cnet100" when you register, you will get in to the closed beta immediately......if they haven't shut that down yet.
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Damn, sleep longer man, your social skill are nearby 0...
FYI, this beta code is not valid anymorem, tried it for non-US resident, it won't be accepted.

kejas said:
It is asking for a email and pass word.. what to do when we install this file
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Guess you needed to register a while back, I posted the file in case someone knew a work around.

Opera Mini 5 beta

Have you tried Opera Mini 5 yet? I'm liking it on my TP
http://www.opera.com/mini/next/download/

it's gorgeous. it's actually laughable that other than somes issues with switching between landscape and portrait it's a better browser than opera mobile.

ribcage said:
Have you tried Opera Mini 5 yet? I'm liking it on my TP
http://www.opera.com/mini/next/download/
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i cant get it to work, phone says it cant open a .jab file. any idea what I'm doing wrong?

eightrac said:
i cant get it to work, phone says it cant open a .jab file. any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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You need to copy the jad and the jar file to a folder on your storage card. Open Java from your programs menu. Tap menu/install/local files. Opera mini 5 beta should appear in the window. Highlight it and tap launch. Enjoy!

Im loving it too. Preferred browser of choice on every WM device of mine. But because higher res in TP, the font looks small even with the largest font setting turned on.

By far my best browser (first try).
Question. Can we get rid of these two questions at the beggining?

freco said:
By far my best browser (first try).
Question. Can we get rid of these two questions at the beggining?
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Sure can, just download the "signed" version of Opera Mini. In the download page, choose "other download" and pick "signed version" (or something like that). It will be downloaded like any other and after installed, ask about connection, at this part, choose "always".

can it be set as default browser?...

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Sure can, just download the "signed" version of Opera Mini. In the download page, choose "other download" and pick "signed version" (or something like that). It will be downloaded like any other and after installed, ask about connection, at this part, choose "always".
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So I suppose this is all about beta version 5 I got. "Signed" version is still 4.2.
Thanks @u2pop.

Interesting comments, maybe Ill try it one more time. Just a month ago I felt it was offering nothing over mobile 9.5

i cant seem to make it finger friendly, its really hard to click or double click stuff with my finger, i have to try to pin point with my nail or either have to pull out the stylus, is there a setting to change this?

t0mmyr said:
i cant seem to make it finger friendly, its really hard to click or double click stuff with my finger, i have to try to pin point with my nail or either have to pull out the stylus, is there a setting to change this?
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I think all you can do is set the font to "large", in that way you can see the link more easily.

Can you minimize this and do something else, like respond to a text or make a phone call without it popping up 5 seconds after being minimized?

Unsigned version without double confirmation for data usage
Yes that's Opera 5 mini latest beta (solid BTW) not 4.2.
Just install the cab, works like a champ.

anyone notice that you cannot scroll through web pages using the d-pad? I am a diehard opera mini user and had to uninstall for that reason

kevindena said:
anyone notice that you cannot scroll through web pages using the d-pad? I am a diehard opera mini user and had to uninstall for that reason
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Yea I noticed that too, hope its only for beta. You guys know how to save bookmark collection? On previous release theres option to save all of your bookmark online. Now i need to manually set.