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Opera mini 4 final is out!

just an announcement!

princeasi said:
just an announcement!
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Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.

Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...

How much different is it from the Beta?

godfa7h3r said:
Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...
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Just connect from Kaiser PIE, and download it... it is java Midlet based browser... so no CAB nor EXE to install....
Cheers.

They don't have the kaiser listed yet but the one we want is the "advanced version", which is the one that all the other WM devices use. You don't want the "basic" one. It still prompts you for the stupid "trusted application" every time, I'll just have to hack the reg once again.
The best part: It displays the FULL web page in the browse. Not some hacked up, trimmed down page, but the full page. You then click on the area of the page you want to browse and it zooms in. You can then scroll around using your fingers (think touchFlo) or hit the magnifying glass to zoom out. Yes, it is kinda like the iphone, but it does work very nice.

jcespi2005 said:
Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.
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Well im using it now as i type and so far so good. But main test is with the cookies handeling, becuz with the last beta i noticed that while browsing profiles in myspace, opera mini would log me off after awhile. Still testing, ill report after im finished

About time!
Very Nice... As soon as the cab version comes out it will be even better!
Opera 9!!
anyone know the release date?!

It prompts for net access even with the high memory version.

How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.

greenbep said:
How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.
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Open up JBed, click menu, and hit "uninstall all".

This is my very first time using opera mini, and I must say I like it. Its working really well so far. One handed browsing is simple. Web pages look alot better, and work out better. One setting I changed was to make images medium quality instead of low. Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.

BoostedSR20 said:
Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.
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...only much much better!!!!

opera mini 4 advanced .jar download save then install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jar
opera mini 4 .jad download and install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jad
the .jad you need to download with your mobile, the .jar is a pc download

Ok, one problem I see thus far. I can't save images. (I like to be able to download images)
Am I missing something?

everthing is perfect..except i cant watch youtube videos, download images, and wish if somehow they make the address entry more user friendly also the enter button. Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.

Desiflare999 said:
Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.
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plz search.

ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!

mcculleyandJen said:
ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!
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was that in the terms and conditions? if so its just a warning that data charges can occur while using it if your network applies charges for data. if your on a data plan then dont worry it wont cost anything extra.

It's a java app, so, it won't be avail as a cab file. Opera Mobile is, Opera Mini is not. This is Opera Mini (which I love).

I got Skyfire sms last night, but then....

...it went all downhill. I got the text notification last night around 2am. Boy was I excited! I got up at around 9 and went instantly tapping on the url provided in the text msg... 30 seconds go by and my default browser, Opera 8.65 crank up to bring me to a shocker that I didn't at all expect: Below is the exact message that my eyes saw:
"Beta Request Completed
Thank you for verifying your beta registration. Your mobile phone is not currently supported by Skyfire. We will notify you when Skyfire is available for your mobile device."
wtf wtf WTF!!! My phone isn't compatible. What kinda crap is that. They are advertising all over their site with screenshots of the browser on a freakin' Kaiser itself. So, I don't get it that why is it recognizing my phone as NOT COMPATIBLE.
It felt like my Tilt was robbed of its dream date with Paris Hilton when she's coming right off a wet T-shirt contest and is on her way to Girls Gone Wild hottest chicks reunion shoot.... well, I got a little excited there so let me come back to reality! So, you get the point how I felt at that time.
Can someone tell me wtf am I doing wrong? I could only think of one thing that is that my Opera 8.65 is set to portray as a "handheld browser" and not a desktop one in its setting menu. Could that be the culprit.
To rub salt on my wounds, the freakin text message instantly went poof.. self-destructed upon tapping that link. I did went back to the browser and copied the url with my unique code at its end and ran it in PIE... same result.
HELP HELP HELP!!
AJ

It worked fine with my STOCK ROM ATT TILT.

Wow, that sucks...what PPC are you using? What ROM?
Best,
MJB

mbial said:
Wow, that sucks...what PPC are you using? What ROM?
Best,
MJB
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I never thought of that... what does a ROM have to do about it not recognizing my device??!!
NEways.. I'm using Dutty's Rom 6 Full version for my Tilt. Should I've upgraded to the 6.1s floating around first? I wanted to wait for the official one to come out first.

It might be using the ROMs device ID to determine compatibility...you might need a stock ROM. Has anyone used Skyfire on a cooked ROM?

Can someone upload this app, or can I download it somewhere?
It says "beta program is currently at full capacity"

I wonder if it isn't the Opera browser reporting your device as something other than what it is (maybe the "act like a desktop PC" option is on?). When you go to the web site your identity string which will include info about your browser, OS and sometimes device will be sent along too. Just a thought.

I am using Dutty V4, got the sms last night, went to the link in PIE, downloaded and installed like a champ. It is working pretty good, haven't had a chance to test it in 3G. But so far its pretty good.

waiting for cab any one has it?

siemi1 said:
waiting for cab any one has it?
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This is not going to work for anybody but invited Beta testers. Since everything is server based with Skyfire it won't run unless you have an account set up with them. Only way you can get an account set up is if you received your invite code. It matches your phone number to it's servers, so if it doesn't reconize that you've been selected as one of the beta testers it simply won't work. There's really nothing anyone can do as it's all server based.
Anyways I would recommend to everyone not waste your time and install this, people from other sites are also saying the same thing as I am.

Its because your loading it in opera... try loading it in PIE. My banking site gives me the same error, but only on loading it in opera.

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I wonder if it isn't the Opera browser reporting your device as something other than what it is (maybe the "act like a desktop PC" option is on?). When you go to the web site your identity string which will include info about your browser, OS and sometimes device will be sent along too. Just a thought.
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I've checked that already. Its set as a handheld device in Opera. I even went to the link via PIE and got the same message. Infact I even went there via Netfront 3.5 and no luck there as well....
What really sucks is that no one has posted this same problem besides me which is making my Tilt feel very lonely.. come one people.. stick ur neck outta yr shells..
..oh well!.. Its a big blessing though that Netfront 3.5 came out of nowhere and its basically been running literally FLAWLESS. I've been able to surf sites with such ease that its not even funny.

Damn haven't gotten mine yet.

Skyfire
humm well.. i cant solve your problem with the download thing.. but i uploaded one that i found on wizard forum =) take it and be happy ... blabla..

I'm registered and didn't receive any notice to download the beta....

Isaygarcia said:
humm well.. i cant solve your problem with the download thing.. but i uploaded one that i found on wizard forum =) take it and be happy ... blabla..
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It says registration failed...that sucks. I got excited there for a minute.

I signed up a couple of days ago. I put my device as HTC Kaiser not AT&T Tilt. I got a link to the download. When I click on it, it took me to www.skyfire.com/mobile/download/beta-at-capacity

netfront is with out a doubt better.

rzanology said:
netfront is with out a doubt better.
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Does Netfront 3.5 support embedded flash like Skyfire? I know that 3.4 did not...

I signed up for the Skyfire beta on 1/28/08 and have not received any notification yet, so I e-mailed Skyfire and received the following response:
Thank you for your interest in Skyfire. On February 8th, we began to release the Skyfire beta 0.5. It’s a big milestone for us and one of many ahead as we march to 1.0. We are happy to report that the initial response to Skyfire beta 0.5 has been terrific.
The number of sign ups for the beta program continues to be off the charts – more than we can accommodate today. Rest assured, we will get to everyone signed up, but initially we have to pace ourselves and roll out the beta in a measured approach. We are inviting beta signs up to download on a first signed-up, first invited basis.
We will notify you by email and by SMS as soon as there is room for you in the beta program. Please be sure that when you signed up for the beta you entered the mobile phone number you want to download Skyfire on. We need that mobile phone number to notify when it’s your turn to download. If you used a different number, please sign up again with your mobile number so we can be sure to notify.
As reminder, first we are supporting Windows Mobile phones in the U.S. After Windows Mobile, we will support the Symbian platform in the U.S. – starting with Nokia N-Series and E-series phones. This could take a couple of months as we continue development and testing. We also hear all the Blackberry, Palm and Linux users who want Skyfire, but the wait will be longer. For our friends in Europe, Asia and around the world, we are working as hard as we can to roll out the service internationally.
To stay up to date about what’s happening here, you can read our blog. You can also refer to our FAQ. Please tell your friends about Skyfire.
Thanks,
The Skyfire Team
www.skyfire.com[/I][/B][/I][/I]

How to make Opera 9.5 act as IE?

any ideas how to get Opera 9.5 to act as if it was IE, or at least PIE???
there's a WiFi spot I always use, but whenever I use my Kaiser, I can only use PIE!!! nothing else works!!!
and as you know PIE sucks
there was a similar option in NetFront as I recall... but I couldn't find it in Opera??
I really appreciate all your help
thanks

how does 'nothing else work' exactly?
if you wnat opera to present itself as PIE, navigate to 'opera:config'-the setting's (and loadsa others) there somewhere.

Nothing else means: The only web browser that works on that hotspot is PIE, while Opera mini, Opera 9, opera 8.65...etc don't
and I have allready searched the config... but no good
I might be missing sothing though!
thanks

mad_tunes said:
how does 'nothing else work' exactly?
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I asked how they dont work, not for a definition of the word nothing duke911.
The behaviour of the other browsers could point one of us in the right direction - insisting nothing works wont mate.
It's simply that 'nothing else works' tells people very little!

Ok mate
As for Opera 9.5: when I go to, let's say: google.com, I am redirected to the homepage of the ISP!! but when I use PIE, I can surf normally, except for the fact you can't really surf with PIE
Opera min cant' open any page at all...
other explorers either do as Opera 9 does, or as opera min!
BTW, I have searched the registry hoping to find something that can help, but came up with nothing
cheers mate

The ISPs page - it wouldn't happen to be a page put up by the operator of the hotspot would it?
Feel free to correct me, but it sounds like it may be a (normally) paid-for service, into which you have to login to be granted access through a proxy..? If it is, can you log in?
I know a loada things you could try from laptop (windows OSs), not that many from WM though.
you said you 'config... but no good' - did you try geting Opera to present itself as IE? if you did, did it make any difference at all?

mad_tunes said:
The ISPs page - it wouldn't happen to be a page put up by the operator of the hotspot would it?
Feel free to correct me, but it sounds like it may be a (normally) paid-for service, into which you have to login to be granted access through a proxy..? If it is, can you log in?
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Well, That's the strange thing!!!!
When I use PIE, I can use WiFi free of charge, but when I use Opera 9.5 I am redirected to the ISP page, and it does not have any place to login... just a normal home page...!!!
BTW, everyone at that cofee shop is using WiFi on their laptops/phone..etc free of charge
you said you 'config... but no good' - did you try geting Opera to present itself as IE? if you did, did it make any difference at all?
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I meant I looked in the config for something that let Opera present itself as IE, But I could NOT find any thing....
are you aware of any option like that in the Opera Config??
thanks mate

Everything is ok now...
I tried reinstalling opera, and trying different build...but that did not work...
but after I refreshed the ISP homepage couple of times... opera now works...
still there is a strange thing... when I tried replying to this topic from opera (typing in the yellow box)... Opera shuts down!!!
anyway.... thanks a lot mad_tunes... you have been very helpful
cheers

I've had opera mobile Build 1126 keel over and close on me a couple of times - tends to do it with the same sites, they must have included something it didn't get on with.
If you haven't already, give build 1184 a go - there are no huge noticable changes, but I've found it to be more stable.
I found it through this site, I think it was from here: HTC Diamond Opera 9.5 Build 1184
'tunes

Skyfire Beta 2

So... I signed up for the Beta2 of Skyfire at least 4 or 5 months ago and five minutes ago I got a link with my copy of it. I registered my account and installed the cab to discover an awesome full-fledged browser. Has anyone else received the text message for their copy? When starting up Skyfire it says version 0.61.0.4721. Is this Beta 2? Is the version other people have?
-Xidium

thats the one, pretty slick huh

Mine always says that it cannot find the internet. Any inkling as to what it may be going on? I have it downloaded twice so far.

I got mine a couple of days ago, and I really like it.

Hmmm........
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Mine always says that it cannot find the internet. Any inkling as to what it may be going on? I have it downloaded twice so far.
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Curious, did you follow the instructions from the original thread below or from one of the many duplicate threads that made the .cab itself available?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414383&highlight=skyfire
I ask because the .cab by itself was never intended to work alone as it needs to be registered via phone # and personal info, which acts as your login to use the program. There may be hacks out there(?), but I am not inclined to do legwork to find them, if they do exist that is.

I finally got my text last night.
Downloaded it immediately and love it.
Then, late last night and early this morning, network issues.
Now, it works like a champ again.
maybe there was a problem with the proprietary skyfire servers or something.

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Curious, did you follow the instructions from the original thread below or from one of the many duplicate threads that made the .cab itself available?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414383&highlight=skyfire
I ask because the .cab by itself was never intended to work alone as it needs to be registered via phone # and personal info, which acts as your login to use the program. There may be hacks out there(?), but I am not inclined to do legwork to find them, if they do exist that is.
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I went through all the steps described in your url, used the original cnet100 code and when that did not work I used a bGenius code from another site, I had the cab downloaded both ties, activated, program installed, and then nothing. It cannot find the internet. I have IE, Opera 8.5 and Oopera mini all working very well, no problem with my net connections.

I had the same issue a while back. In my case I disabled the ATT Proxy for the MEdia Net connection and then all worked fine.
michalopoulosgk said:
I went through all the steps described in your url, used the original cnet100 code and when that did not work I used a bGenius code from another site, I had the cab downloaded both ties, activated, program installed, and then nothing. It cannot find the internet. I have IE, Opera 8.5 and Oopera mini all working very well, no problem with my net connections.
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pmcall said:
I had the same issue a while back. In my case I disabled the ATT Proxy for the MEdia Net connection and then all worked fine.
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How did you do that?

I went to their website and followed all the FAQ instructions regarding MediaNet and Proxy etc., it seesm that I have an old version (5.something) I need to get a 6.something version....still trying.

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Start|Settings|Connections|Connections|Advanced|Select Networks|MEdia Net|Edit|Proxy Settings| ->uncheck the "This network uses a proxy server ....."

many thanks!

Just downloaded it and have putzing around with it.
things i like: renders pages much like my desktops. Loads pages fairly quickly. Relatively small memory footprint
Things I'm iffy on: chunky scrolling (as opposed to NetFront or Iris), text entry into a separate text box seems redundant to me...and probably some other stuff.
This is running on a stock ATT rom, minus the bloatware. It seems fairly stable.
When on my wifi connection, its quite nice.

Yea I was about to ask about the "chunky scrolling". I've noticed that too. Opera 9.5 isn't like that at all. I was wondering if it was the software or if the new kaiser d3d beta drivers or the omnia drivers helped this at all... I haven't had any of the connection issues that others have had and I do like the small 1.5mb or so space it takes to install compared to ~8mb for Opera.

why am i not getting text messages from skyfire.
i have a valid beta code.

I just downloaded mine, but I haven't had time to play with it yet.

Hmmm I havent gotten any links to download it...... It tells me I have to wait until the beta is released for beta testing? hmmmmm I wonder what I did wrong

I got my text for Beta 2 also. It's definitely much better than Opera and IE, but still no where near the iPhone's Safari browser. I switch between my iPhone and Tilt every couple days and when it comes to browsing Safari is pretty damn good. Skyfire is definitely a step in the right direction.

I've been using this for a week now and have noticed a few things.
1. random freezing. While either loading or on a page, my version will just hang and the Tilt will not respond to anything but a reboot...which, in my case, sucks due to that infernal GoodLink lock app.
2 since this is server based, sometimes I get REALLLY sluggish performance. When rendering a simple text based page (say...like craigslist) the screen redraws are horribly slow and scrolling thru a page brings up the checkerboard pattern until it gets the screen redraw info.
3 my settings for some reason or other...do not stick. For example, I will have smart fit enabled in my default view settings. When I load a page the text does not flow correctly, and I have to enable smart fit again.
4 Load up times: horribly inconsistant. Somedays its quick and zippy and blows other browsers out of the water. Other times...it just wont launch.
Having said that: I realize that this is a beta and is bound to be far from perfect. But while the concept is great, the execution leaves a bit to be desired, especially the network connectivity issues for me.
I also have NetFront (LOVE IT) and the Iris browsers as well as the stock OEM Internet Explorer. I want to like Skyfire, but its just too damn iffy right now, whereas my NetFront and Iris are pretty decent.
This is on a stock Win6 OEM ROM (minus the bloatware)

Is there a Net Front CAB that we can download?

[CAB+] Opera 9.5 Build 2745

I was doing some research on this build since it seems to get positive feedback across the board. Decided to paste a few links on here for our VGA phones for everyone to try out.
Seems to make web pages view like a normal desktop (and work well with flash?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252&highlight=2745&page=12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252&highlight=opera+2745&page=15
I am also hoping that one of our great chefs will be able to eventually make a cab with all the edits and mods complete, and incorporate them into new ROM's.
opera 9.5 build 2745+DownloadManager_with_instructions_&_files_for _VGA.rar: (thanks to owziee)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CO1JP49G

how do we see what build we have?

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how do we see what build we have?
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Type "opera:about" without quotes in the adress bar in opera it will tell your build number

lbhocky19 said:
how do we see what build we have?
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Or open Opera and Menu>Help>about Opera

Just to be clear, this should just overwrite the built-in opera, not install a new one, correct?

Seems to work okay, but slooooow. It seems to load part of a page and then stop? Is there a way to make this better?

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Seems to work okay, but slooooow. It seems to load part of a page and then stop? Is there a way to make this better?
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I don't use Opera that much, would love some more insight into whether hopper13's claim is accurate or not?

Just an FYI, although this version of Opera is a bit faster than stock, there are numerous reports of issues with this build of Opera (i.e. Opera closing when loading a website, or for no reason at all). Once you install this, you cannot uninstall it, so use this at your own risk, because you may end up having to hard resetting your phone.

sn0b0ard said:
Just an FYI, although this version of Opera is a bit faster than stock, there are numerous reports of issues with this build of Opera (i.e. Opera closing when loading a website, or for no reason at all). Once you install this, you cannot uninstall it, so use this at your own risk, because you may end up having to hard resetting your phone.
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This is correct. I have not heard of anyones Opera slowing down with this build, I have only heard better results for speed.

I am just wondering if I have some setting that may be causing difficulty when loading large pages. As I said, they seem to load a bit, then pause for a long period before resuming the load. This behavior seems to happen both with 3G and wifi connections.

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I am just wondering if I have some setting that may be causing difficulty when loading large pages. As I said, they seem to load a bit, then pause for a long period before resuming the load. This behavior seems to happen both with 3G and wifi connections.
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I had that issue on the previous build of Opera. I dont know if it is the settings, or what the issue is.

Opera 9.5 versions thread
Hi to all Opera users
Please visit this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
The idea is to have in one thread all the different versions of Opera 9.5 circulating all over the forum, to get easy acces to them.
Please feel free to share about this and hope all can contribute
Thanks,