HTC Touch Keypad - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

When I install the keypad I get something really weird and unwanted when I want to write a new text message.
Without the keyboard installed I can write the first couple of letters of a contact and it will give me a list of contacts that match that set of letters. however once the touch keyboard is installed I just get its own autocomplete kick in... even when I submit the letters the contact popup doesn't come up?
Does anyone know a way of keeping the contact functionality and the keyboard at the same time?
I've tried disabling XT9 reg file in one of duttys threads, still no joy

Yeah the exact same thing happened on mine and unfortunatley i couldnt find a solution either and eneded up removing it from the device, this being a real shame cause it was very useful specially for texting one handed.
A part solution is to send new text, use touch keyboard to enter first couple letters like you would before then menu / check names it should then bring up a list of ones that partially match, bit long winded though.
Anyone else found a solution to this?

Anyone found a solution to this? I'd love to be able to use the htc pad...!
can anyone recommend a better input thing that will preserve the mentioned function?

I just press the 'to ' text yo the left and use the list , tis fairly fast -- but now I must go as my battery is almost dead!

Its quicker to just to press a letter
Can't anyone think of a fix!!?
Can I just use the sip file or something from the cab?

I've found a cab to disable the XT9 and it means that you can press a letter and it will come up with contacts matching the letter... however it messes up the touch keypad and board.. they both just display all the letters and numbers. :/

so, where is the cab file then ?

Hmmm I think i saw the cab file somewhere

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Stop screen keyboard from opening automatically

Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.
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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?
Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.
ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....
I would also like to see a solution
I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.
I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!
a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
Try this....
DarkDvr said:
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
ugoff said:
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio

Installed Touch Keyboard & Keypad. Help w/ 2 minor issues please!!

Okay ladies and gents, I have searched and searched and can't seem to find my answer. I am sure one of you smart lads can give me a response in 4 seconds.
The keyboard and keypad work great on my Tilt but I have two issues:
1) I've noticed the screen shots include a tool bar above the keyboard with options for BOLD, UNDERLINED text, ect. I do not have that. What can I do?
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.
richabi said:
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.
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I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again
yeah, I figured it is software conflict with xt9 - you can have one or the other kinda thing. I think I rather have the xT9 than the quick list. I will just have to press one extra key (return) for every contact included.
corleno said:
I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again
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Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.
pmtan666 said:
Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.
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thanks that did the trick !!!
the only annoying feature
NO SPACE after clicking a predicted word !! grrrr
anyway to overcome that ?

text conversation window nightmare

Hey all,
Got my new diamond. Love it to bits. Only one bit that's started to drive me round the bend. There must be a solution somewhere.....
I was quite pleased to see the text message conversation feature - you know the one where you can type beneath a text you've recieved to reply and reffer to the previous text as you're doing so, also if you scroll up you'll see your whole convo with that contact. Nice feature....
However:
The window for replying in is SO SMALL that I can't actually read what I'm typing. I get almost the lenght of a whole letter in it so i can kind of read a few words but scrolling is impossible.
The scroll up and down arrows are right next to each other.
It's highly impractical and almost impossible to use. Worst when keyboard and T9 are activated.
Anyone know how to fix this?
I tried clicking on the black divider line between the original message and the reply you're typing and dragging it up.
No luck....
All help greatfully recieved (doubtless I'm missing something?)
There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
nuke1 said:
Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
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Not sure which keyboards you mean but it won't help since the reply section of the page is a fixed height. Altering it so that you can see more than one line of the reply can be very useful.
On the subject of keyboards, I want to recommend TouchPal (again) - not only is the keypad resizable (by dragging), it has better T9 input and the word candidates don't stick up above the top of the keyboard. This means the window resizing works properly and it doesn't have the bug on tapping the screen when selecting a candidate in Opera.
Davey101 said:
Not sure which keyboards you mean...
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I think he's referring to new the keyboard in the 2.00.421.1 Diamond ROM image. pistonripper has cooked a custom, lightweight version.
Davey101 said:
There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
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Yep searched google repeatedly before I came here. Figured google would turn results up from here but hey, could just be my dyslexia. Thanks for the help. I'll see what I can find on here about total commander and thread_sms.htm to figure it out.
Wish me luck
Thanks a lot guys! That solved it I REALLY appreciate the help.
If anyone else has the same problem it's as the guys said: google 'total commander pda' get the .cab file from their site (you want the Pocket PC one obviously).
Install it by popping it on your diamond and clicking it on file explorer.
Then use the file menu to search for 'thread_sms.htm'
When it shows up click the edit button (first icon, the one to the right of the word 'show' bit of paper with a pen next to it).
I changed the height on one of the lines contained 'composesubject' and width 98% from 35 up to 70. Saved and went back into sms.
Tada.
Beutiful three lines.
Thanks again to all who helped and search for thread_sms.htm on this site if you need more help as a lot of the guys have solved it.
Lastly for the google folks here are a few words that might help them find this:
diamond sms window screen too small one line tiny conversation text message reply can't read
Nice one

xT9 and eT9 at once- causes problems- how can i remove one completely

i am running the latest 6.5 21202 ROM and whenever i start writing someone name into the new sms to: field i get two different predictions- the bottom grey htc style prediction(eT9?) and a little white box predicition(xT9?) near the name- if i press enter the phone freezes up, and if i backspace at all the phone freezes.
is there any way to remove one of the two predictors?
disabling T9 only removes predictions in the body of the text message, even with installing Taiseer's xT9 disabler. also i have disabled T9 with advanced config and diamond tweak.
the problem is that when entering a name they both still appear- yes this is a very useful function, but only if one appears- now that both appear the phone freezes whenever i choose from one
I had this problem at first too...but for some reason after I soft reset the phone a few times the problem's gone. It's one of the weird 6.5 bugs...perhaps because the ezinput sip keyboard isn't made for 6.5 yet? not sure though..
hopefully your problem is solved too though!
hmmm, solved, but not perfect
so no, soft-resetting did nothing for me. but i used regedit and searched for T9.
i found the reg entries for HTC's bottom name predictor (eT9) and there was one referring to install directory i simply changed it from "/Windows" to "/" and now the program cannot load it. and now there is no more freezing and only one predictor the microsoft white box name prediction.
this is good, great in fact- however, it could be better
the HTC eT9 predictor is better because it takes one keypress instead of two, not a big deal, but if anyone has alot of spare time on there hands- finding a way to disable xT9 instead of eT9 would be much appreciated.
GustavTheLion said:
so no, soft-resetting did nothing for me. but i used regedit and searched for T9.
i found the reg entries for HTC's bottom name predictor (eT9) and there was one referring to install directory i simply changed it from "/Windows" to "/" and now the program cannot load it. and now there is no more freezing and only one predictor the microsoft white box name prediction.
this is good, great in fact- however, it could be better
the HTC eT9 predictor is better because it takes one keypress instead of two, not a big deal, but if anyone has alot of spare time on there hands- finding a way to disable xT9 instead of eT9 would be much appreciated.
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In Post #4 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3576500&postcount=4 ) of my ROM thread there is a cab file to disable XT9. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it gives the drop down style word suggestion.
At0mAng said:
In Post #4 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3576500&postcount=4 ) of my ROM thread there is a cab file to disable XT9. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it gives the drop down style word suggestion.
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i have tried your cab and it "works" but will cause the compact qwerty to only display in #s and symbols :S

Text entry issue with 4.4.2 Sense 5.5 update.

Has anyone noticed that since HTC removed and replaced the phone pad and XT9 when you go to choose one single letter when typing then go to choose another single letter, it automatically adds a space in between the letters now?
Example: e y
I can't find a setting for auto spacing anywhere either. Do you think it's an error in the way they took it out then replaced it? I've never had this issue before the update.
I'm including an annotated screenshot of this page to help explain a little better what I mean.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Hey man, I am having the exact same issue as you... It's fine for people who use QWERTY keyboard as you select each individual letter yourself... Where as when you use the phone keypad you have to select them with the prediction, of course it then thinks you've entered a word and adds the space... If anyone knows a fix for this that'd be great!! I am even willing to try and edit the HTC_IME if someone can tell me where this setting might be stored.
I am also running into HTCs famous dictionary losing words like "am" "go" "in" etc... Yes it took me a hell of a long time to type this message on my phone...

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