i am running the latest 6.5 21202 ROM and whenever i start writing someone name into the new sms to: field i get two different predictions- the bottom grey htc style prediction(eT9?) and a little white box predicition(xT9?) near the name- if i press enter the phone freezes up, and if i backspace at all the phone freezes.
is there any way to remove one of the two predictors?
disabling T9 only removes predictions in the body of the text message, even with installing Taiseer's xT9 disabler. also i have disabled T9 with advanced config and diamond tweak.
the problem is that when entering a name they both still appear- yes this is a very useful function, but only if one appears- now that both appear the phone freezes whenever i choose from one
I had this problem at first too...but for some reason after I soft reset the phone a few times the problem's gone. It's one of the weird 6.5 bugs...perhaps because the ezinput sip keyboard isn't made for 6.5 yet? not sure though..
hopefully your problem is solved too though!
hmmm, solved, but not perfect
so no, soft-resetting did nothing for me. but i used regedit and searched for T9.
i found the reg entries for HTC's bottom name predictor (eT9) and there was one referring to install directory i simply changed it from "/Windows" to "/" and now the program cannot load it. and now there is no more freezing and only one predictor the microsoft white box name prediction.
this is good, great in fact- however, it could be better
the HTC eT9 predictor is better because it takes one keypress instead of two, not a big deal, but if anyone has alot of spare time on there hands- finding a way to disable xT9 instead of eT9 would be much appreciated.
GustavTheLion said:
so no, soft-resetting did nothing for me. but i used regedit and searched for T9.
i found the reg entries for HTC's bottom name predictor (eT9) and there was one referring to install directory i simply changed it from "/Windows" to "/" and now the program cannot load it. and now there is no more freezing and only one predictor the microsoft white box name prediction.
this is good, great in fact- however, it could be better
the HTC eT9 predictor is better because it takes one keypress instead of two, not a big deal, but if anyone has alot of spare time on there hands- finding a way to disable xT9 instead of eT9 would be much appreciated.
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In Post #4 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3576500&postcount=4 ) of my ROM thread there is a cab file to disable XT9. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it gives the drop down style word suggestion.
At0mAng said:
In Post #4 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3576500&postcount=4 ) of my ROM thread there is a cab file to disable XT9. Not sure if this is what you are looking for but it gives the drop down style word suggestion.
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i have tried your cab and it "works" but will cause the compact qwerty to only display in #s and symbols :S
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When I install the keypad I get something really weird and unwanted when I want to write a new text message.
Without the keyboard installed I can write the first couple of letters of a contact and it will give me a list of contacts that match that set of letters. however once the touch keyboard is installed I just get its own autocomplete kick in... even when I submit the letters the contact popup doesn't come up?
Does anyone know a way of keeping the contact functionality and the keyboard at the same time?
I've tried disabling XT9 reg file in one of duttys threads, still no joy
Yeah the exact same thing happened on mine and unfortunatley i couldnt find a solution either and eneded up removing it from the device, this being a real shame cause it was very useful specially for texting one handed.
A part solution is to send new text, use touch keyboard to enter first couple letters like you would before then menu / check names it should then bring up a list of ones that partially match, bit long winded though.
Anyone else found a solution to this?
Anyone found a solution to this? I'd love to be able to use the htc pad...!
can anyone recommend a better input thing that will preserve the mentioned function?
I just press the 'to ' text yo the left and use the list , tis fairly fast -- but now I must go as my battery is almost dead!
Its quicker to just to press a letter
Can't anyone think of a fix!!?
Can I just use the sip file or something from the cab?
I've found a cab to disable the XT9 and it means that you can press a letter and it will come up with contacts matching the letter... however it messes up the touch keypad and board.. they both just display all the letters and numbers. :/
so, where is the cab file then ?
Hmmm I think i saw the cab file somewhere
Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.
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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?
Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.
ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....
I would also like to see a solution
I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.
I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!
a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
Try this....
DarkDvr said:
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
ugoff said:
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio
New version at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
Old version
I'm make a small program, which change current SIP when stylus out of the case and in the case.
Just unzip, and run program. Run again, and you can stop background process.
Settings in registry:
key HKCU\Software\HtcExtFun
value StylusInSipName - string name of SIP when stylus in the case
value StylusOutSipName - string name of SIP when stylus out of the case
example of reg settings (included in attached archive):
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"
Sorry I messed up im such an idiot!
And would it be possible to change the diamond in some kind of explosive device if the stylus is pulled out and in five times in less than three seconds ?
Hmmm James Bond on TV tonight, sorry for that.
The real question was : what do you call SIP : is it any program ? Does it interfere with the "notes" opening during a call ?
SIP = "Soft Input Panel"
It's the method of inputting text on a ppc, such as keyboard, transcriber etc...
Thanks a lot exidler, I've been missing this feature
My question is will it interfere/conflict with a SmartSIP application? I'm not in the mood for a Hard Reset just now due to conflicting SIPs...
Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help
ralfred said:
Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help
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Just change the registry keys to whatever SIPs you use. You probably don't even have a "Keyboard - VGAKEY" installed.
2ALL: Also be sure to input localized names for SIPs into reg keys (for non-WWE ROMs). Good luck!
Btw, it works just fine with SmartSIP...
Good job, exidler! Thank you. It's just what I wanted. Will probably uninstall SmartSIP now...
At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.
exidler said:
At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.
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Would be a nice addition, but I'd prefer it to be user-configurable (on/off), with a list of exceptions. So each time I'm about to rename a file it won't open Notes or whatever.
help stylus
for open the program???
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"
hello graziano
WOW Fantastic app thanks
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
Jules
Video of the software here. I think its great, but could obviously do with a configuration panel and having a shortcut dropped into \windows\startup.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=739
Surur
ZaJules said:
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
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Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.
peterbonge said:
Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.
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It only worked for me after a soft reset, and then starting the app once.
Surur
To have it start at every boot up, paste the app in /Windows/StartUp
Very convenient app, they should have implemented this in the original ROM .
Awesome!...
It worked after I add ZaJules's Reg file.
But I want to be able to switch between:
Compact QWERTY and Fitaly by textware.
I edited the reg location (in windows registry) from keyboard to fitaly
now removing/replacing stylus doesn't do anything...
cheers, stevo.
[edit] Maybe it's called something else in the registry...
[edit] fixed it.
I had "Keyboard Qwerty" insteat of "Keyboard QWERTY", so it IS CAP specific!.
cheers, swesome.... This bl00dy phone just gets better and better every day...!
Updated the cab to include the automated startup
GREAT small application, very handy indeed.
re not go
error on startup
saluti dvdfilm
when using the exidler....cab I got an error while starting up. It seems the application is missing a reference. When I start it manually I get an error about missing reference in registry.
I use original Rom 1.93GER
Hey all,
Got my new diamond. Love it to bits. Only one bit that's started to drive me round the bend. There must be a solution somewhere.....
I was quite pleased to see the text message conversation feature - you know the one where you can type beneath a text you've recieved to reply and reffer to the previous text as you're doing so, also if you scroll up you'll see your whole convo with that contact. Nice feature....
However:
The window for replying in is SO SMALL that I can't actually read what I'm typing. I get almost the lenght of a whole letter in it so i can kind of read a few words but scrolling is impossible.
The scroll up and down arrows are right next to each other.
It's highly impractical and almost impossible to use. Worst when keyboard and T9 are activated.
Anyone know how to fix this?
I tried clicking on the black divider line between the original message and the reply you're typing and dragging it up.
No luck....
All help greatfully recieved (doubtless I'm missing something?)
There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
nuke1 said:
Or just use the newer, smaller keyboards that are just as practical and take less of the screen.
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Not sure which keyboards you mean but it won't help since the reply section of the page is a fixed height. Altering it so that you can see more than one line of the reply can be very useful.
On the subject of keyboards, I want to recommend TouchPal (again) - not only is the keypad resizable (by dragging), it has better T9 input and the word candidates don't stick up above the top of the keyboard. This means the window resizing works properly and it doesn't have the bug on tapping the screen when selecting a candidate in Opera.
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Not sure which keyboards you mean...
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I think he's referring to new the keyboard in the 2.00.421.1 Diamond ROM image. pistonripper has cooked a custom, lightweight version.
Davey101 said:
There is a solution (have you searched?)
You need to edit thread_sms.htm in the windows folder. You'll need to use Total Commander to edit the file because it's a protected ROM file.
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Yep searched google repeatedly before I came here. Figured google would turn results up from here but hey, could just be my dyslexia. Thanks for the help. I'll see what I can find on here about total commander and thread_sms.htm to figure it out.
Wish me luck
Thanks a lot guys! That solved it I REALLY appreciate the help.
If anyone else has the same problem it's as the guys said: google 'total commander pda' get the .cab file from their site (you want the Pocket PC one obviously).
Install it by popping it on your diamond and clicking it on file explorer.
Then use the file menu to search for 'thread_sms.htm'
When it shows up click the edit button (first icon, the one to the right of the word 'show' bit of paper with a pen next to it).
I changed the height on one of the lines contained 'composesubject' and width 98% from 35 up to 70. Saved and went back into sms.
Tada.
Beutiful three lines.
Thanks again to all who helped and search for thread_sms.htm on this site if you need more help as a lot of the guys have solved it.
Lastly for the google folks here are a few words that might help them find this:
diamond sms window screen too small one line tiny conversation text message reply can't read
Nice one
I am sorry if this has been answered before, but I can't find the answer anywhere. How can I change the auto suggestions from the one that's in the screenshot to the older pop-up version?
Have you looked under start-->settings-->personal-->input? Once here select the input method you wish to use and customize it all the way. This should inlcude adding your own words to the dictionary/pop up suggestions etc.
I don't know the popup you mean but it sounds to me like it belongs to an older keyboard. You need to install that keyboard, if you can find a VGA version.
Failing that you could try another keyboard like Resco or TouchPal to see how you get on. I think the T9 system in TouchPal is great, a whole other level better than the HTC keyboards.
I was wondering how to get the word suggestions to the one in this screenshot.
Ths thread explains it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445959
short version: disable T9 and use a different keyboard...
Word suggestions...
datzent83 said:
I was wondering how to get the word suggestions to the one in this screenshot.
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You can't use that one with HTC's keyboards. That belongs to Microsofts' built-in SIP's. I find HTC's much better and quicker to use. If you've only just changed from the 'old' word suggestions from Microsoft, maybe you need a bit more time to get used to them. Other than that, you'll have to use Microsoft SIP's instead of HTC's.
I'm sure if there was a way to resolve your issue, some wiz-kid here would have already done it
I forgot to mention this, but I am not use HTC keyboards. I am using PocketCM Keyboard v0.20.
I figured it out thanks to Steve in this form post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425405
Here is the suggestion which works!
found this in another thread
changes for auto complete
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
suggest words in a drop down list as in WM6