Using VoIP with Kaiser - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Dear all,
After installing SipConfigTool.cab and WM6VoIP.cab on my HTC P4550, I finally made it work in front of a SIP server and managed to talk with another phone.
Nevetheless, the audio is rendered by the rear speakerphone (the one normally used for handsfree rendering) and not by the front one (the one used for regular phone usages, on top of the screen). Of course, I checked that I wasn't in handsfree mode, what makes me suspecting a wrong routing of the audio flow in the WM6VoIP client, that's to say the Ms standard one.
Does any of you had the same experience?
Please don't tell me to turn the P4550 to the other side to use VoIP
Thanks and regards
PP

PouetPouet said:
Dear all,
After installing SipConfigTool.cab and WM6VoIP.cab on my HTC P4550, I finally made it work in front of a SIP server and managed to talk with another phone.
Nevetheless, the audio is rendered by the rear speakerphone (the one normally used for handsfree rendering) and not by the front one (the one used for regular phone usages, on top of the screen). Of course, I checked that I wasn't in handsfree mode, what makes me suspecting a wrong routing of the audio flow in the WM6VoIP client, that's to say the Ms standard one.
Does any of you had the same experience?
Please don't tell me to turn the P4550 to the other side to use VoIP
Thanks and regards
PP
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This is a known issue/limitation of WM. No programs can re-route audio to the "usual" earpiece speaker. It can only go out thru:
1. rear speaker (as you found out)
2. a wired headset
3. a bluetooth headset if using A2DP profile (like for music-listeing for sterao BT headphones)
4. a bluetooth headset if using a small program called BTAudio or BTToggle, which reroutes the rear speaker sound of a program to almost any BT headset.
This has been most commonly noticed by Skype users - who have the same problem using Skype for WM.
The "fix", or better yet "workaround" would be the same for you as it would be for Skype users. Search this forum for Skype, and you will find your answer and links to do option #4 above, which is generally regarded as the best workaround, besides #2.
The issue with #1 is it causes a bad echo to the person you called.

Actually, I was able to quickly find the right post for the workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1548652&postcount=26
read that for how to do #4. Read the whole thread for other background info.

The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence) i now reinstalled my old ROM. Which is the default-installed ROM. I installed the "TNT VOIP" and the sound is coming from the rear speaker.
I guess someone has been able to get the WM6-VOIP tool working with the front speaker. Could this person perhaps create a CAB so that we can also use this.
Would be great.
Thanks.

I am using voip on Kaiser with Dutty's Touchflo ROM. Got it set up with voip.com and the call quality is lousy (choppy, jitter, etc.). It's about the same whether I use wifi or 3g. Any recommended solution for this? I know my broadband wifi connection is good since I use the softphone from my laptop over wifi with execellent results. Would trying a different codec help? Also, I can't hear any ringing on my end when I place a call. Anyone else have these issues?

mdvz0r said:
The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence) i now reinstalled my old ROM. Which is the default-installed ROM. I installed the "TNT VOIP" and the sound is coming from the rear speaker.
I guess someone has been able to get the WM6-VOIP tool working with the front speaker. Could this person perhaps create a CAB so that we can also use this.
Would be great.
Thanks.
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Any news about that?!

What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.

mdvz0r said:
What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.
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Where did you get it? And where you find language pack?! Thanks

double post

mdvz0r said:
What i did was install dutty's. After that the language pack and voip6. Works perfectly for one month now.
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Has anyone else tried this pack without the language pack? and confirm that native VOIP works using the front speaker.
thanks

mdvz0r said:
The weird thing is: i installed Dutty_s_Tilt_TouchFlo_Rom_beta.zip which i downloaded 28-nov-2007. This ROM worked perfectly with VOIP through the front speaker. Because i did not really like this ROM (no offence)
Thanks.
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How was the audio quality while speaking through the front speaker? Have you been able to work it out with the cooked ROM?

Related

AT&T Tilt and Infiniti G35x bluetooth phone workaround

Bought Tilt few weeks ago and found out, like many on this forum, that in-car bluetooth phone system was not working properly. Sound was terrible and microphone did not work at all.
Things I tried: Tilt with AT&T rom; AT&T rom withouth bloatware;jetBTFExt-1.31; registry tweeks. Nothing worked.
I still have Qtek S200 and it works just fine.
Reading few post here and there, I found what worked for me.
After placing a call or answering a call, transfer it to handset and back to the car system.
Sound quality and microphone will be working properly.
I believe the problem is in establishing proper connection between Tilt and car system when call is initiated or answered.
Bad part about this workaround is that it take some time to push those buttons and it very very annoying. However, before real fix is found, if I need to have a long conversation during driving I will use this method.
ashrek said:
Bought Tilt few weeks ago and found out, like many on this forum, that in-car bluetooth phone system was not working properly. Sound was terrible and microphone did not work at all.
Things I tried: Tilt with AT&T rom; AT&T rom withouth bloatware;jetBTFExt-1.31; registry tweeks. Nothing worked.
I still have Qtek S200 and it works just fine.
Reading few post here and there, I found what worked for me.
After placing a call or answering a call, transfer it to handset and back to the car system.
Sound quality and microphone will be working properly.
I believe the problem is in establishing proper connection between Tilt and car system when call is initiated or answered.
Bad part about this workaround is that it take some time to push those buttons and it very very annoying. However, before real fix is found, if I need to have a long conversation during driving I will use this method.
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I agree, thats the method Ive been using, but quite annoying. However it is a lot better than holding the phone in your hand while driving AND talking. Hope HTC will fix this annoying issue.
I am using HTC Rom and it links with Mercedes Benz BlueTooth perfectly. It shows all my contacts infomations alone with call history od called and received.
Navigation/phone system bug?
avega1027 said:
I agree, thats the method Ive been using, but quite annoying. However it is a lot better than holding the phone in your hand while driving AND talking. Hope HTC will fix this annoying issue.
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Do you have a map screen coming up after you press "Use Handset" button? This is something that I have in my car (2007 G35x).
ashrek said:
Do you have a map screen coming up after you press "Use Handset" button? This is something that I have in my car (2007 G35x).
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If youre refering to the GPS map, then yes. So then I have to press "PHONE" on the unit again to connect.
Penske MB said:
I am using HTC Rom and it links with Mercedes Benz BlueTooth perfectly. It shows all my contacts infomations alone with call history od called and received.
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My TILT links fine w/the G35 but its the quality of the phone call that is terrible. Also I have heard of reports that the HTC ROM doesnt make the call quality any better vs the AT&T ROM

Newbie: Skype over phone instead of speaker

Hello
I just installed Skype for smartphones on my new S730 and the connection works like a charm. However, so far the sound is only played over the phone's loudspeaker. Is there a way to change that, so I can skype using the S730 like a normal phone?
Thanks.
Rob
Currently it's not possible. When calling with Skype, just turn round the phone.
use headphones
I have another question. Is there a way to use Bluetooth handsfree with skype. When i connect my bluetooth handsfree and make call over skype, the sound come from loadspeekers. Works only with wired (headphones) handsfree.
The "issue" is that the API [for sound output] used for VoIP is the same as the Windows Mobile OS (like media player, ringers...) use; not the same the phone uses.
thanks for the answers, guys!
that sucks! any hope this will get resolved sometime soon?
cheers!
rob
Oh, I don't think its solved "soon". Or somewhere in the future. I have had a qtek 2020i and already in those ancient days, I had the problem that it was not possible to use a BT-headset for voip-connections.
For the 730:
Whats about using a stereo-bluetooth headset? Its made only for listening music?!
So, could work for voip/skype too?!?
stopfen said:
Oh, I don't think its solved "soon". Or somewhere in the future. I have had a qtek 2020i and already in those ancient days, I had the problem that it was not possible to use a BT-headset for voip-connections.
For the 730:
Whats about using a stereo-bluetooth headset? Its made only for listening music?!
So, could work for voip/skype too?!?
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I suppose that would work, depending on which API VoIP uses to output sound. If it is the same that music uses, then yes, it would work. I'm going to guess it is since wired the stereo headphones work.
Try here:
http://www.teksoftco.com/

How about VOIP (via SIP) on Touch Diamond

Hi there,
I am currently using the Nokia N95 and am considering to switch to Touch Diamond, however I am very fond of the VOIP/SIP functionality on N95, is Does the Touch Diamond also support proper VOIP through SIP?
I don't think there's a built in SIP client, but there are a few third party ones for windows mobile. The main problem usually is that each manufacturer handles the 'ear' speaker differently, and without modifying the source code the sound comes out of the main speaker, unless you use a handsfree.
Haha...Or you could try modifying the wiring.
use SJPhone for Pocket PC
also try the microsoft SIP client: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VoIP_on_Windows_Mobile_6
Has anyone tried the microsoft VOIP client?? If so any news on which speaker is used?? I have a hermes which works perfectly with the internet calling client but the Kaiser and Polaris uses the external speaker and it´s a bit of a pain.
christonge said:
Has anyone tried the microsoft VOIP client?? If so any news on which speaker is used?? I have a hermes which works perfectly with the internet calling client but the Kaiser and Polaris uses the external speaker and it´s a bit of a pain.
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Ditto. I would also love to know the answer. This is the biggest single drawback of the TyTN II
ohnophone said:
Ditto. I would also love to know the answer. This is the biggest single drawback of the TyTN II
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This is due to the fact that the VoIP can only interact with the system sound platform, not the radio/phone sound platform.
Headsets will work fine, as the ear piece handles both system sound and radio/phone sound.
Are any other SIP clients different?
Usually its platform/vendor specific how they handle the ear speaker. I remember way back CiceroPhone used to be one (comercial) app that was able to use the ear speaker.
Has anyone tried installing the microsoft integrated VOIP yet to see which speaker is used??
christonge said:
Has anyone tried installing the microsoft integrated VOIP yet to see which speaker is used??
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Yes, it uses the external.
Is the GPS still working after installing VoIP ?
There is a thread that reports problems and a need for hard reset after VoIP installation.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402850&page=2)
bigflavor said:
Yes, it uses the external.
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When I tried using the "destro0_VOIP_WM61" file to enable VOIP, sound was received through the internal speaker (ie...the normal speaker that you use when you talk on the phone). The only problem was that the volume level was low.
dscemama said:
Is the GPS still working after installing VoIP ?
There is a thread that reports problems and a need for hard reset after VoIP installation.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402850&page=2)
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Installing the above file disrupted the GPS. It could not be recognized by any software, including the QuickGPS app. I had to hard-reset to get everything back in order.
DT
daren1 said:
When I tried using the "destro0_VOIP_WM61" file to enable VOIP, sound was received through the internal speaker (ie...the normal speaker that you use when you talk on the phone). The only problem was that the volume level was low.
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Are you sure about this? It's just that, from everything I know, this is impossible from a hardware point of view.
On the Diamond, the ext. speaker is VERY close to the internal speaker. Perhaps you were just getting some bleed-through?
Hi,
you could use fring (see fring.com). Works fine for SIP and offers Skype, too (whereas the original skype client did not work on my Diamond).
Cheers,
Kleinenbroicher
sip voip solved
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682
working
works great
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682 . d
scootax said:
Hi there,
I am currently using the Nokia N95 and am considering to switch to Touch Diamond, however I am very fond of the VOIP/SIP functionality on N95, is Does the Touch Diamond also support proper VOIP through SIP?
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Try Fring, I use it a lot. It's free and also supports Skype, msn, gmail, ....
Regards.
For the best voip experience I have had so far try Agephone mobile 2.9
I use it a lot and I can confirm that it works well with betamax voip providers.
Fring is good for chating, but the voice quality is not the best.
Good luck.

Skype for 6.1

Ok maybe im late and every one knows this already, but skype for winmob for 6.1 is available officialy on skype site
UPDATE after a couple of days of use.
-Skype adds an option on the Contacts list you can call skype contacts directly form contacts list.
-Nice clean good resolution and cool specifically UI thats made for VGA 6.1 winmo. Nice icons etc.....
-Great sound quality.
-Im using headphones for Skype talks so the soud coming out of the speaker is not a prob!
Overall performance GREAT!
Highly Recommend.
Sergio PC said:
Ok maybe im late and every one knows this already, but skype for winmob for 6.1 is available officialy on skype site
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It's about bloody time too
Release date is yesterday- I wonder if there's anything different than the one floating around here
At least there is from start a programm icon and the exe isn't anymore in the main memory which gives a advantage of almost 3Mb at your phone.
The changelog says, that they resolved audio routing problems...if they mean sound routing to phone (front) speaker it doesn't work on my diamond. Speech still comes out the top speaker. Anybody maybe got it to work?
Tried it worked but still the back-speaker is used.
-=Dennis=- said:
Tried it worked but still the back-speaker is used.
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Yes and that sucks!!!
Well at least its faster and better looking and better quality than fring.
This "using the main top speaker" has always been a feature of Skype. I don't think it's a bug, but its designed that way.
I believe the earpiece speaker can *only* be used by the phone module of the device, and no other apps can access it.. Maybe some experts can verify my statement.
MasK said:
This "using the main top speaker" has always been a feature of Skype. I don't think it's a bug, but its designed that way.
I believe the earpiece speaker can *only* be used by the phone module of the device, and no other apps can access it.. Maybe some experts can verify my statement.
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Agree, can you use skype with headphones?
O wait ill try right now!
UPDATE 3minslater:
Yes it works headphones pretty cool great sound quality (thanks to Jewels great and fast connectivity set) and a skype designed for 6.1. IMO
what you boys think??
SIP calling can be enabled on the phone (your GPS dies hoewever), but then the sound does go though the right speaker. So yes, it is definately possible to not only use the front speaker, and I'm pretty sure this is not a feature, but just an accepted bug.
PS: Some E-Ten devices can have Skype routed to the internal speaker.
Hey mkhattab, jus wanting to know wht is data package price you are paying to etisalat in dubai... cause i am planning to subscribe to it so tht i can use skype too.... thanx a lot....
Brevi said:
The changelog says, that they resolved audio routing problems...if they mean sound routing to phone (front) speaker it doesn't work on my diamond. Speech still comes out the top speaker. Anybody maybe got it to work?
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at least you guys have audio. No audio on htc 6800 or 6900s (cdma).
once installed it says version 2.2.0.38, skype site says 2.2.0.45 ??
I had a "test" version before and it was already v45.
Nevertheless I now have a home plugin and a new splashscreen.
not working
I have installed skype on my diamond but it doesn't works.....
The program start and after the start screen the device make a soft reset......
Why?
Does Video call work with skype ?
Seems to work on mine, i'm just running the orange rom..
Sucks that sound always goes through loud speaker..
As far as I can see, you cant video call with it yet
SKYPE sprint htc touch mp 6900 windows mobile 6.1 NOT working
anyone know of a work around, or an older versoin of SKYPE that will work properly over the sprint data plan on this phone? sprint touch has no WI-FI.
thanx
Narco77 said:
once installed it says version 2.2.0.38, skype site says 2.2.0.45 ??
I had a "test" version before and it was already v45.
Nevertheless I now have a home plugin and a new splashscreen.
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Same here, are you using the cab or the exe? im using the cab.

HD2 and sony erricson mw600 review

Hey guys, i`ve been browsing the site for a while and thought it about time to make an original contribution. I was looking for a blue tooth headset and my searches here lead me to the MW600. quite a few people were asking about it so i thought it a good opportunity to give my review now that i have one!
from the start then, i bought this as i have a very nice pair of headphones i wanted to use with the phone, but could not be doing with cords. most bluetooth headsets have their own headphones which i get along with even less. this seemed a perfect solution to both problems.
the box it comes in is flimsy at best, indeed the plastic tab to hang the box on is completely lose, useless for hanging up in a shop.
out the box, its a lot smaller than i imagined but a bit thicker too. it comes with a charger that handily also fits the HD2 which is an added bonus and un expected!
when i paired up to the phone i was very surprised to find that the unit displayed the song info correctly. i honestly did not expect this to work outside of a sony erricson phone but it works! the next track and previous track buttons work as well, as does the play and stop buttons.
the hands free works fine as well with the person who called me not knowing i was on a hands free.
the volume control is awful, they decided to use a slider that half the time does not register me raising the volume and when it does its impossible to get the right volume setup, its either too high or too low and the slider is too imprecise to get the setting i want!
I cannot comment on the enclosed head phones as i never used them!
When i play some music through the device ( and that is of course what its for) the results are slightly dispaointing. the sound is okay, but that is about as best as i can describe it. maybe its because i am spoilt by the good quality output from the 3.5mm jack on the phone, maybe i am just used to having some EQ on (which the unit does not provide for and the phone says it cannot apply `audio booser` without somer thing being plugged in the 3.5mm jack) but the bass is there (thanks on no small part to the ehadphones rather than the unit) but the mid seems `transparent` with no real hit and the highs are annoyingly 'sparkly'. This os of course my opinion, and others may find the output perfectly fine and for comparison i also do not like the output of ipods as i find their mid lacking as well so if your happy with i pod output you maybe happy with this units output,
I have never needed to re charge the unit yet after 3 days of having it and listing to it in the morning for 2 hours and on the way home for an hour so the battery seems quite good.
I love the unit but the quality of the output means i will only really use it when i have to, prefering to use the audio jack output, i am however going to look into how the unit works as i suspect the phone is sending SBD encode audio and not the native mp3. if i can ge tthe unit to decode MP3 and the phone to send mp3 then i think we have a winner!
For reference i used CD originals encoded to lame 3.98 -V1.
just ordered mine. thanks for the review. i will also post up my opinion of the headset when it arrives. if it is as good as the include wired version, that will be good enough for me.
Hey thanks for the review as I'm getting one but you didn't speak about the radio does it work? anything else? cheers mate
Thanks for your review.
But could you edit it so that it's not so hard to read?
Spaces between a few sentences would suffice.
Thanks for the review, install WOW SRS and it should improve the sound quality via bluetooth but it will kill audio booster when plugged with the 3.5mm jack and always use WOW SRS.
Vrery nice, all working apart from Cyberon voice dialer, you can initiate Cyberon voice application by clicking the phone button on headset but can't pass voice to the phone as it doesn't recognize voice. It looks like the problem relates to cyberon not mw600.
idonxda said:
Vrery nice, all working apart from Cyberon voice dialer, you can initiate Cyberon voice application by clicking the phone button on headset but can't pass voice to the phone as it doesn't recognize voice. It looks like the problem relates to cyberon not mw600.
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It's a problem with the HD2 bluetooth stack. I managed to get it working with a new radio, a Miri ROM & a modified Cyberon cab
MrGubby said:
It's a problem with the HD2 bluetooth stack. I managed to get it working with a new radio, a Miri ROM & a modified Cyberon cab
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Hi Thanks, can u plz tell me the version of radio and rom? i need everything to be working!
Anyone else had any experience of this device on HD2? Probably going to but one but would like more reviews before I do.
idonxda said:
Hi Thanks, can u plz tell me the version of radio and rom? i need everything to be working!
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Hi, I'm using a Miri 6.5.x ROM version V.10 with Radio 2.08.50.08_2
MrGubby said:
Hi, I'm using a Miri 6.5.x ROM version V.10 with Radio 2.08.50.08_2
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Hi i can not seem to find v10 only see 6.0 and 7.0 any chance of a quick tutorial aswell. Someone else installed duttys rom for me. Advise please as i would like to get this bluethooth button working with cyberion voice using Sony Erricson MW600 stero head set.
The links to the modifyed cabs also please.
badman112 said:
Hi i can not seem to find v10 only see 6.0 and 7.0 any chance of a quick tutorial aswell. Someone else installed duttys rom for me. Advise please as i would like to get this bluethooth button working with cyberion voice using Sony Erricson MW600 stero head set.
The links to the modifyed cabs also please.
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The Miri V10 ROM is on the HTCpedia forums (I think it is V11 now, not tried it)
Just got mine, tried it and I have to say:
THE MUSIC QUALITY IS CRAP!!!!!
headphones arrived today. WOW. excellent audio and far better than oem headphones. have yet to play with it on radio etc, but so far very impressive.
I have a problem
After the end of any audio file
Lose "stereo audio" connection
and have to push the play button to reconnect "stereo audio"
and also
After the end of calls
Lose "Hands Free" connection
and have to push the Talk button to reconnect "Hands Free"
but if i received a call
"Hands Free" reconnect automatically
But there is a delay for two seconds
I do not know this is normal?
Like power autosaving!!!
this is definately not normal. mine works flawlessly. no need to reconnect ever. i would suggest checking your bluetooth settings and pairing settings again to make sure everything is correct.
I am using smartWatchM with Sony Ericsson MBW-150
I think there is a conflict between the Watch and mw600 connection
The problem is from latest windows build (23569) & (21903 )
When i go back to an old build like (23519)
There is no conflict between the Watch and mw600 connection
Waiting for a solution to this problem or update for Windows without problems
Delays
Does anyone else experience a 3-5 sec delay when the HD2 jumps 1 song/chapter forward?
My combination gives a this delay, which is especially annoying when listening to audiobooks!
I miss a few seconds of every new chapter, need to manually jump 1 chapter forward and the back again.
Does not appear when manually going forward/reverse only when HD2 is in control.

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