Hard SPL for Wizard G3!!! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

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What is this for?
Thanx.

Prislav said:
Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).

Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!

I don't mind to brick my wizard again!

mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.

mfrazzz said:
Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.

Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.

Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.

i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...

zabardast_1 said:
Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.

Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.

jwzg said:
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.

Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!

I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.

Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).

Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John

What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?

AldoWeb said:
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John

So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo

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[READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards

OK, a word from the DOC.... to the wise ...
If one has successfully unlocked their G3 device they won't be complaining that their device doesn't have the themes, ringers, little tweaks and proggies installed by the extended ROM as these things will be installed...
Vippie has prepared a nice tutorial named Howto flash a Wizard... a little tutorial! that is a "must read" IMO, please take the time!
jpmche has published an unlocking guide for our Spanish only amigos here at [Favor de Leer antes de Preguntar] La guia en Español para Des-bloquear el Wizard
mestrini recommends saving your CID block that is backed up when running the Lokiwiz tool. Lokiwiz will save it as a bin file and it is useful if you encounter a "Data Crashes. Please contact your service center" error. Please take a look at his thread.
btw, a G4 PDA will report an IPL and SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 PDA will report something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!)
Read between the lines here... almost ALL the postings of problems posted in the ROM threads are directly due to people not truly unlocking their device.
In the real world there is a phrase ... RTFM, loosely translated to "Read The Freak'n Manual"... Faria in particular took pains to create a manual for unlocking G3 devices. I've personally unlocked probably close to 50 Cingular 8125's and a few T-Mobiles. I've seen PROBABLY every situation with a G3 device here.
A couple of things...
1st - Most of the custom ROM's here require that your device be CID unlocked.
2nd - CID unlocking, as well as flashing a custom ROM, will void your warranty.
3rd - There is always the chance, even after all precautions are taken, that you might brick your device. This, however, is extremely unlikely unless you have a G4 PDA and attempt this.
4th - Please don't cross post. This particular thread was "stickied" to keep it at the top where noobies can see it and veterans can attempt to help. My attempt with this thread is to alleviate the posting of obvious CID unlocking problems in the chef's threads so that they can concentrate on perfecting their ROM and not answering questions that have been already been answered countless times before and really have nothing to do with their ROM.
5th - Faria and I reference the Button 1.05 ROM. You DO NOT have to use the 1.05 to unlock your device but you may instead use an official 1.x ROM (Lokiwiz .2b only works with 1.x ROM's) if it will allow you to downgrade to it. Often, however,the only way to downgrade to an official 1.x ROM is to downgrade to the 1.05 first... catch-22.
6th - This technique is the best way to downgrade a device to a previous version, for instance when you need to return to an official "shipped" ROM for warranty reasons.
PLEASE take the time to read all the way through this before making the decision to unlock your phone. We are not responsible for you bricking your device.
If you have a G3 device and follow Faria's instructions, which I only repeat time after time, you WILL have a working device..... no ****!
If you have a G4 device DO NOT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS, YOU WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!
Also, if you DO have a G4 Wizard, please do NOT post anything here regarding how to unlock your device. This is for G3's only, please start your own thread...
So... being that my friend Faria's primary language isn't English (though he has a better mastery of it than many of my fellow Americans...) I'll expound on it ONE LAST TIME ...
Please do not use the PC for anything, including browsing the internet, checking email, playing freecell, or anything while this is happening! Have nothing going on in the background.
mestrini advises (and I agree!)
I've come to realize that many "NO COMMUNICATION" errors are due to low voltage battery so i think it would be good to include in your guide to have a full (or almost) battery before using any RUU.
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1. Glance through Faria's original thread on this (he wrote the book!!)
2. Download Button's 1.05 ROM at RapidShare or Badongo
3.. Downgrade your ROM to the Button 1.05. Let it go through the whole setup please...
Note: If your device fails at 98% with a 302 error follow Vippie's advice and try the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 instead.
4. Download lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b
5. Extract the afore mentioned file to the root of your C drive. Do NOT extract to a folder with spaces...
6. Open Activesync WITH YOUR DEVICE NOT CONNECTED! and delete your partnership.
7. Connect your device and cancel the partnership. (You're a guest )
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
10. (Back to your PC) ... <Start> <Run> <cmd> <Enter> to give you a most wonderful MS Dos prompt (be afraid, VERY afraid!)
11. In the MS Dos box (mouses not allowed!!!) type "CD\" <enter> (no quotes)
12. Type "lokiwiz.bat" <enter> (Actually, if you have XP, type lok then <tab> it SHOULD complete the filename, YMMV.
13. You will see a screen that has ...
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
14. Hit the U key on your PC and press <Enter> ... your PDA WILL REBOOT upon completion !!!!!!!
15. Wait for your PDA to reboot, rerun the lokiwiz batch file (if you hit the up arrow key twice on your keyboard it will retype "lokiwiz", then hit <Enter>) then hit the C key on your PC and press <Enter> ... YOUR PDA WILL REBOOT UPON COMPLETION !!!
(if your Pocket PC Phone does NOT reboot each time, you didn't do it right! Stop and make that work, trust me!, then go on)
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
Now you SHOULD have a IPL and SPL of 2.26 to work with. If not, you screwed up! Don't attempt to install someone's hard work and ***** before you do these steps!
EDIT for Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me
IF, by chance your device hangs and never completes the flash (always give it a LOT of time, with no programs running, hopefully after a fresh reboot of your computer) you'll be stuck in (hopefully) the bootloader screen. It's very scary (at least to me the 4 or 5 times my own custom ROM's have been bad) all is not lost. Each time (after trial and error) I was able to restore. If this happens reboot your PC and then rerun the Button 1.05. It will act like it doesn't see it at first but have faith! I've tried this by using various provider's shipped ROMs and it always tell me it can't communicate. But, if I reboot, the 1.05 has always worked.
If you still have issues, uninstall ActiveSync. REBOOT! Download and install ActiveSync 4.5 Don't create a partnership. Try to run the 1.05 again.
Also a good idea is to delete your Windows temp folder. With XP this is typically
"C:\Documents and Settings\PC User's Logon Name, whatever that is\Local Settings\Temp" (Show hidden files need to be checked)
Most of you can paste this into your "RUN" box and click OK
cmd /k del "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Temp" /s/q/f
(type exit and hit enter when it completes)
Also, a good idea is to close all apps, shell to a command prompt by clicking <RUN>, typing cmd and clicking OK. A nice black MS Dos box awaits. Type CHKDSK/F and enter. Then type Y and hit enter. Type exit and hit enter. Reboot your PC and let it go through the data integrity test. Try again.
A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader.
A last disclaimer
Faria originally posted this unlocking technique using Button's 1.05 and machinagod's lokiwiz 0.2b. I have merely attempted to simplify the steps.
Final note
Microsoft has asked that all ROM's be removed from the FTP and we have complied. I have searched the internet and found the Button 1.05 and T-Mobile ROM's and updated the links here. Thanks to whoever posted the Button 1.05!
Enjoy!
awesome guide, and i just want to thank you guys for doing so much for the community
Great job Dr. P. and real wise words!
Regards,
Molski
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
vseehua said:
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
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Yeah, this thread should be stickied....and XDA-Dev should make me a mod of this forum, so I could delete every cid-unlocking question
Molski
great post !
bravo doc !
Thanks guys!
faria said:
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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Having read varios forums I don't think that would cure the problem. The best solution I think would be as Molski suggested in having moderators with the ability to delete repeating questions. My own suggestion would also be to give people of a certian level (ie: senior member) the ability to start and moderate thier own threads, therefore giving you the ability to keep a thread on topic.
faria said:
thanks steve for the kind words.
i for one i m not coming back untill there is some clean up in his forum,
the admin has contact me and said they are looking at the issue.since this is a non paid jod and everyone got lives it could be a very long while.
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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First...great job Dr. P Although you have typed the same thing many times before. I know I read them all.
Now... I agree with what Jose has said here. I for one spent a long time reading and learning before I felt comfortable messing with my phone and I work with software and hardware for a living. Many of the new owners of these phones come on here and jump in with both feet and then the trouble starts. Perhaps Molski should be a mod on this forum, it might help (Molski i will tell you now it is a thankless job.) at least then things would be cleaner around here. I know that everyone has other jobs but couldn't troublemakers be banned sooner than they are and is it really that hard to block an IP? I'm done rambling besides i have to get back to work.
Kirby
Wooh everyone's back at least to offer their 2 cents and Dr. Puttingham, we Americans do speak good ole English maybe colo(u)red sometimes . Faria thanks for commenting. Molski keep up the good work and Summiter, please reach out. This place is not going to be the same without you folks.
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
Sgele said:
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
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To my knowledge Button's 1.05 is lower than any provider's shipping ROM so you shouldn't have any problem "upgrading" to your official shipped ROM. I've personally taken 3 Cingular 8125's back to the shipped 1.08 this way to return to Cingular.
Good luck!
My apologies to Dr. P and all the senior members. I was one of those guys that were constantly asking the repeated question. I got it straightened out now. Both of my MDA's are unlocked and working perfect. Thank you all so much for all your help.
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Just an idea - do we all have to have open PM and email. If we could have PM or email only on invite or something, the good people here could get some peace, and everyone had to ask on the forum, where everyone else (at least some of you) can give an answer. We still have to have some moderators i think, but you didnt have to answer hundreds of PMs and emails.
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Yes this is off topic. Please don't hijack this thread with issues not directly related to unlocking G3 devices...
Which is precisely what has the folks angry, the threads going in different directions than what was intended.
No offense meant.
Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Yes it does but as I said, no hard feelings. (I'll deal with the others in my own way )
Great job
This guide is to good for words... Even my mother can now CID Unlock a Wizard
Thx Dr. P and the rest.
..im wondering if we should include screen shots along with this?! what do you guys think
Did anybody unlock phone in this way?
Im afraid from "brick" of my phone!
..wow are u serious?

Some help please

I've been reading and trying this for days with no luck. I've fully unlocked my wizard and I'm now trying to flash to the 318 rom. But I have no clue how to do it. Could someone walk me through ho to do it? Most of the flashing done thus far has been an EXE file or through DOS. I must be missing something simple.
please help
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
mikaarce said:
follow this thread, enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
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I followed that one already. That's how I unlocked it. But all step 3.8 says is "your ready to flash...". Right now I don't understand exactly how to flash and I'd prefer not to "trial and error" it.
However, this morning I did open up the Hypercore kitchen and I think I'm on the right track. I'm at work so I can't try anything but I've printed up everything in that thread including all it's links and I'm going to give it a go once I get home. I'll report back once that's done.
Alright, after some more research and reading in the hypercore kitchen thread and all it's links, I think I may have it figured out.
I download and extract the files for the ROM I want, in this case 318 8.1 from theloon.
I then follow the instructions linked int he hypercore thread with dumping, and the pkgtool, buildos, etc.. If followed correctly, my wizard should be flashed with the new rom correct?
A confirmation would be nice. Any other comments you have are a bonus.
Another question though; what's the difference between the programs contained in the SYS and OEM folders compared to the ones in the build OS that i have the select? Aren't the ones in the folders already included in the ROM?
Your help would be greatly appreciated. I don't get confused too easily so as you can imagine i'm quite frustrated. I used to flash new versions and programs to my Razr but it was nothing like this.
dont get me wrong are you trying to cook your own rom, because hypercore is a kitchen, i suggest you download one of the roms that are made by reputable cooks, like the NBD series, TNT series, paradox, xmr, faria's, ingenetics, octavio's they differ in the apps and costumization included in the os and the builds, so just select download and flash
there's an executable file inside the roms once you unzip it and be careful if your using xp or vista
The only things I've been working with up until this point is BuildOS and nb2nbf. I haven't fully grasped the definition of "cooking" yet; whether it means altering files for my self or if the BuildOS selection list is considered cooking.
I think i was trying to do too much and using a file different from the one being referenced in the tutorial was a bit confusing. So to start, I decided to use Faria's Crossbow and the tutorial that came with it. It was very easy and I was able to flash my Wizard to that ROM without a problem. But the one i really want is Theloon's 318.
So, based off of what I learned last night I figured I just needed to replace the OEM, ROM, and SYS folders that came up when I unzipped Faria's crossbow with the ones from 318. Is this correct? Because I just tried that this morning and I get all the way to the CMD prompt right before it opens nb2nbf and it gives me an error (see attacment). If there's one thing I've learned from all these bricked devices floating around, it's to NEVER proceed when an error occurs.
What does this error mean? How can I fix it? Is my moving of the folders wrong? What am i missing?
just messin around trying to see what tools work, i got another error.
Ok, now I've got a bigger problem. I finally figured out what I was doing wrong. It's actually a lot simpler than I thought. i was just making it more complicated. Ok, I tarted the flash and at about 47%, it gave me a memory reference error. Now my Wizard won't go past the three-color screen and all it shows is my IPL/SPL 3.08. ActiveSync won't detect it, tried hard resetting, turning on while holding camera button, etc. What do i do now?
Now you start thinking... "Maybe I should have read the stickies on the Upgrading forums... bummer..."
The 3 color screen is called the BootLoader. As long you get that screen, your phone can be recovered. How to recover it?
- Use a Windows XP PC.
- Download Wizard_Love Rom (its somewhere, use google or search the forum, but then again, you wouldn't be having this problems IF you knew how to use the search button!)
- Press and hold CAMERA button and hit the reset, keeping the camera button pressed.
- Connect the Wizard to your pc using the USB cable.
- Start the Wizard_Love RUU utility that comes with it.
- Just press next until it starts flashing the ROM to it.
- Pray for it to finish without touching anything until the RUU says CONGRATULATIONS.
There... your phone is working again.
READ THE STICKIES BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AND USE THE SEARCH!
THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED FOR TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY!!!
PS: Maybe we should create a thread for helping the guys that don't follow stickies or care about the ALREADY info we have here... something like:
- 3 color screen: do this
- different IPL/SPL G3 on a G4 device: you are screwed.
I definately read the stickies over and over again. I've got a stack of printouts sitting in front of me that I've been reading for the past week.
I understand your frustration about questions like this but that's no reason to be rude. I used to be a moderator on pbnation.com so I know exactly how you feel. But the fact of the matter is that I'm not as familiar with these things as you are. I fixed the bootloader issue before I even read your response. i found the answer by re-reading one of my printouts that said the re-flash with official rom. So i did that and it worked. I knew I'd get flamed for posting but since I had already had a thread created, I figured it wouldn't hurt to post updates on my status.
I know how to flash roms now. It's actually quite easy. However, I ran into some issues that I'd like to explain in hopes that you realize I'm not taking advantage of you or not utilizing the tools and stickies.
i was having problems yesterday because of my work computer (I think). When extracting the files from Hypercore, they were not placed where they should have been and the tools wouldn't work properly. An example would be when opening buildOS it would give me the yes or no prompts. An IT friend allowed me to use his non-work laptop to do the exact same thing and I was able to use it without a hitch. The simple tmobile official rom update wouldn't even work on my work computer. So it's not just me.
I knew there was a reason that i couldn't follow it.
Regardless of your approach, I still thank you for your help.
I didn't mean to be rude... sorry about that. Its just that from your post count I thought your were like a newcomer like those that come here all the time, asking the same questions over and over again. Netherless, sorry for "helping" you the way I did.
I will have some tea now to relax care to join?

A couple of questions..

So Im a long time lurker, new poster. My wing came today and I would like flash OpenTouch 3 to it but Ive got a couple of questions first.
No matter how hard Ive searched, be it google or the wiki I still cannot find a definite answer about Hard-SPL. What is it, exactly? Do I need it to be able to flash OpenTouch 3?
Secondly, upon flashing the new rom, do I need to re enter all my network settings?
Shaihalud9 said:
So Im a long time lurker, new poster. My wing came today and I would like flash OpenTouch 3 to it but Ive got a couple of questions first.
No matter how hard Ive searched, be it google or the wiki I still cannot find a definite answer about Hard-SPL. What is it, exactly? Do I need it to be able to flash OpenTouch 3?
Secondly, upon flashing the new rom, do I need to re enter all my network settings?
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Read all the links in "All importatn links"
and never say again: I searched - it is NOT true.
there is ALL i repeat ALL you need written down!
I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.
Shaihalud9 said:
I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.
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First off, welcome to xda...
You need to relax a little, its not that hard and if you do brick the devic you can always reflash the original...
On the original thread for the rom, there is a FAQ section that should help you get started.
If you device is new and you have never flash it before then there is no need to HARD-SPL.
Posted by JLine05 Post:
Post 719
Here's the rom I use:
Open Touch Biggy v3.0 by ttran:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GY2ZNKD
Then follow these steps:
II. How do I flash an NBH file?
a. USPL
Step 1. Download Herald-USPL-Beta3. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A4N36HLO
Step 2. UnZIP the file into a folder on your Desktop. Let's call it "MyFirstROM" for simplicity's sake. Notice that there is a folder called RUU within this folder now. Keep that in mind.
Step 3. Download your NBH file and unZIP or unRAR it into that RUU folder. Make sure that that NBH file ends up in the RUU folder, not within a folder inside the RUU folder.
Step 4. Place your phone into flightmode.
Step 5. Go back to the MyFirstROM folder and then run USPL.exe
Step 6. Follow the directions on the screen. EXACTLY.
* Your screen on your cell phone will go white around the 75% part of the "second step" now.
* ActiveSync will LOOSE its connection.
Step 7. One step 3 on that black window, the RUU flasher will pop up. Just follow the steps.
That's it. Welcome to the flasher's world.
Instructions by Ivanmmj
Also,
In the future, please keep all questions in the original thread, this makes it eaiser for me and others to help you.
Enjoy!
Thank you, and I apologize for the post. Hopefully I'll be back later with your rom on my phone. :-D
I USPL'd. No biggie. What I think it does is writes some code to your device to ignore the security certificates or whatnot. Basically allowing you to install unofficial ROMs. The creator kindly put an image of Tux on there so I at least know it's Linux based.
That's my take on it.
Shaihalud9 said:
I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.
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Sorry. BUT on IvanMMJ thread about "How to flash" and "Neewbee guide" there is all discribed.
But thanks for ttran... now we have the 101st HOW2!!
hahaha
Remeber, check your SPL to make sure it's higher than 4.0 BEFORE flashing.
Determine SPL?
I have 2 MDAs and can see the IPL and SPL, etc., when I do a Soft Reset. However, with my new Wing I do not get that data displayed on Soft Reset. So, I checked Device Information:
ROM: 4.10.531.3 WWE dated: 03/15/07
Radio: 02.83.90
Protocol: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM: 4.10.531.103
Is there some reason that I do not see the IPL, SPL, etc., on Reset?
I assume that my SPL is what my ROM is, 4.10.531.3.
Thank you.
asctony said:
I have 2 MDAs and can see the IPL and SPL, etc., when I do a Soft Reset. However, with my new Wing I do not get that data displayed on Soft Reset. So, I checked Device Information:
ROM: 4.10.531.3 WWE dated: 03/15/07
Radio: 02.83.90
Protocol: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM: 4.10.531.103
Is there some reason that I do not see the IPL, SPL, etc., on Reset?
I assume that my SPL is what my ROM is, 4.10.531.3.
Thank you.
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On the Herald, you have to place the phone into bootloader mode to see the SPL. I believe all Wings are 4.0 and above, but you can never be too sure.
ivanmmj said:
On the Herald, you have to place the phone into bootloader mode to see the SPL. I believe all Wings are 4.0 and above, but you can never be too sure.
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Thanks for your quick response. I do appreciate your time and help. Mostly, all of your posted information.
What is the purpose of the SDDAEMON.INK in the Startup file? I have done searches on this and cannot find a definition of what it does or what it starts up.
well sd would probably the memory card
daemon is a background, "gofer" like file that automatically does computer requests
sometimes abbreviated as "d"..as in syslogd.. for a system log daemon file...blablah
and a .ink file is an image file with recorded information in it... usually used for shortcut icons
but yeah.. i have no idea, sorry
asctony said:
Thanks for your quick response. I do appreciate your time and help. Mostly, all of your posted information.
What is the purpose of the SDDAEMON.INK in the Startup file? I have done searches on this and cannot find a definition of what it does or what it starts up.
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It's supposed to be a short cut to initialize Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial. The reason you didn't find anything is because it's SDDAEMON.LNK not INK.
mv3 said:
well sd would probably the memory card
daemon is a background, "gofer" like file that automatically does computer requests
sometimes abbreviated as "d"..as in syslogd.. for a system log daemon file...blablah
and a .ink file is an image file with recorded information in it... usually used for shortcut icons
but yeah.. i have no idea, sorry
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lol. You get 10 points for the answer anyways.
ahh.... sooo sd meant speed dial... hehe
ivanmmj said:
It's supposed to be a short cut to initialize Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial. The reason you didn't find anything is because it's SDDAEMON.LNK not INK.
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Thank you again. I just did a search on the SDDAEMON.LNK and found the information that you provided me. I really don't like to ask for help until I have searched for a resolution. If I can provide help, I normally try to.
Thank You!
asctony said:
Thank you again. I just did a search on the SDDAEMON.LNK and found the information that you provided me. I really don't like to ask for help until I have searched for a resolution. If I can provide help, I normally try to.
Thank You!
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No problem. I figured you were trying to search but that I instead of L kills.

[TUT][HSPL] Hard-SPL Unlocker for Blackstone - Released for 1.56 ROMs too now

MOD EDIT HDuser 02/01/09
This page has gone wiki and can be found here.
For a better understanding it is recommended that you read all 3 parts under "Flashing - Changing your device to a new version or language" on the main wiki page found here
END MOD EDIT
so, yeah, why not do one for this device too
[size=+3]UPDATE: Hard-SPL released![/size]
[size=+2]NOTE: This is NOT a SIM unlocker - it also doesn't unlock Security for other radios. if you need that, GO HERE[/size]
[size=+2]23/04/09 -
UPDATE: New version will work on SPL 1.54 or above ROMS!!!! [/size]
so I of course changed the 1.56 rom wiki accordingly to that. (someone can review it if they want)
many thanks to testers for testing!
[size=+1]Donations are always appreciated to the big link in our signature ("elite project"). Thank you!![/size]
Preparations:
0) this package is for Blackstone devices. for any BLAC***** now (SSPL loader checks this).
1) make sure you have .NET framework installed on your PC! if not, get it from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6&DisplayLang=en
2) if you have vista, WMDC update is recommended: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx
Instructions:
read this if unsure how to install Hard-SPL...
1) download Hard-SPL package from attachment, use 1.56 HSPL (HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip ) if you want to use new 1.5x ROMs. then extract to an empty folder.
NOTE: 1.14 HSPL (the original Unsigned_HardSPL_for_Blackstone_OliNex.zip) is good for only older ROMs, 1.56 HSPL (HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip) is good for newer ROMs. 1.56 is not backwards compatible with old ROMs. the incompatible ROM will still boot but screen is going to look funny which is a temporary issue but uncomfortable.
2) you must Have Phone Synced with PC in Windows Mobile!!!
3) run HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe on PC, make sure it's launched from a local drive (not through network drive, etc.). if you are on vista, launching as Administrator is recommended,
4) follow steps in the RUU, check device for prompts after PC shows loading bar, press Yes on phone if asked. please answer with Yes as fast as you can!
5) some notes: when RUU says it will hard reset, do not worry, it is not going to do that. also when it says the flash will take 10 minutes, ignore that, it will only take a minute or so.
6) device should go to a tricolour screen now that says 1.07.OliNex, the SSPL version, which is temporary.
7) in a bit unusual way, it will take a few seconds for the RUU to detect the device, but do not worry, as soon as the "USB" text on the tricolour screen shows up, RUU will see device.
8) SPL flashes, device automatically reboots, job done.
9) to confirm you got it installed, go into bootloader mode (tricolour screen!) and verify the screen shows 1.14.OliNex or for new version 1.56.OliNex, which is the Hard-SPL version.
NOTE: you will not see the SPL version during normal boot, that is the OS version, not SPL!
to enter SPL to check version, fully power the device off by long press of power key, then power on while holding the "volume down" key on the left side of the device. keep holding the volume down key until you see tricolour screen which is the bootloader mode, then release it.
NOTE 2: anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically, please copy SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe from SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip attachment to the device and run it. then once the screen is sayingn 1.07.OliNex, run RUU manually. i.e. you launch the Hard-SPL RUU (HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe) on the PC and flash.
*important*: make sure that the USB cable is plugged in and device is synced to Windows Mobile even if doing manual SSPL method.
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs or radio packages. also, this has overwrite protection against HTC RUU's overwriting HSPL with a stock one, so if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, a stock SPL downgrade package is posted in this post as well. use this relocker *only* if you need to return the phone for warranty, and only use it as last step - after reflashing stock OS and radio. see steps at the end of this post about how to reflash stock SPL.
NOTE 4: do not use this RUU for anything other than SPL flashing (i.e. hardspl or stock spl restore)!!! nothing other than SPL's made by Olinex team (using OliNex custom cert) will flash to make SSPL more secure. if you want to flash some other rom, then use shipped RUU or blackstone customRUU if you need to flash cooked ROM.
NOTE 5: for developers asking: Hard-SPL is not based on MFG SPL, as that SPL causes the screen not to turn on after a resume. (maybe solved one day ). so currently, MFG SPL can strictly be used for development and hacking.
Troubleshooting:
- read the instructions above.
- read the instructions above.
- read the instructions above.
nothing happens on the device, does not enter tricolour screen mode anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically, please copy SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe from SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip attachment to the device and run it. then once the screen is showing 1.07.OliNex, run RUU manually. i.e. you launch the Hard-SPL RUU (HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe) on the PC and flash.
general usb connection error problems if you get connection error in RUU after the device goes to 1.07.Olinex screen, then
- try a different USB port
- try different USB cable
- do not touch USB cable during the process especially if it is already a bit dodgy
- also do not use USB hub
- you can also try rebooting your PC
- and you can try using another PC.
- also you can try unticking advanced network functionality in start menu / settings / connections / usbtopc applet.
- another reason for USB connection error: if your PC takes too long to load the drivers (if your device is in bootloader for the first time and perhaps if you are on vista), then if RUU times out, but HD still says "USB" on the tricolour screen, just leave it there and re-run the RUU when driver installation finishes.
- finally, you can try disabling antivirus or firewall programs on the PC.
HD specific USB or connection errors:
- as already said, in a bit unusual way, it will take a few seconds for the RUU to detect the device, but do not worry, as soon as the "USB" text on the tricolour screen shows up, RUU will see device. if not (happens very rarely), wait for RUU to time out (or wait 5 minutes). then remove back cover, reset, it will boot OS again, then you can retry unlocking process from step 1.
- alternatively, launch SSPL-Manual.exe from attachment, run it, wait until 1.07.OliNex tricolour screen says "USB" on it, then run the HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe on the PC.
other issues if SSPL-Manual.exe or Enterbootloader.exe fails to run (says missing component or similar), try a hard reset of the device.
How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!
1. download your choice of a stock spl package from this post. (currently 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.54)
2. also download the original hardspl from the attachments in this post.
3. run the hardspl exe but do not click anything in RUU yet. just let the hardspl EXE extract the files for flashing.
4. the SPL you want to revert to is a .NBH file, put the stock SPL NBH in the extracted hardspl package, overwriting the original NBH file in it!
5. continue with the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to tricolour 1.07.OliNex screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.
+6. to verify, enter bootloader mode, see version number on tricolour screen, should now just say 1.14.0000 or any other version ending in .0000, but not ending in OliNex!
that's it.
+7. no worries: if your device is stuck in bootloader mode with Hard-SPL and you need warranty service, you can still flash stock SPL.
[EDIT 17-12]
Congrats on releasing this HSPL.
Now the cooking and flashing can begin.
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the-equinoxe said:
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As you all may have noticed the thread has been cleaned up.
From now on: keep it clean, stop begging, no whining.
Yes the HSPL will be released, yes it will be free.
[SIZE=+2]Warning: those who leak the testversion will be banned, no exeptions![/SIZE]
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Nicely put. I see no reason to beg but then again I don't have the phone... yet. I know you must hate that begging crap more than anyone. I was right there with you when you developed the Wizard HardSPL remember?
Anyways keep up the great work OliNex! I can't wait until I have this phone!
dharvey4651 said:
Nicely put. I see no reason to beg but then again I don't have the phone... yet. I know you must hate that begging crap more than anyone. I was right there with you when you developed the Wizard HardSPL remember?
Anyways keep up the great work OliNex! I can't wait until I have this phone!
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Don't have this phone either, but like you (and most seniors) I do respect the efforts of Olipro and Cmonex (and alike).
They have contributed a lot for our community.
BTW. The honour for the Wizard HSPL goes to Olipro (as always), it was his patching that made the thing work (who's else )
Neh, i'll wait for the public release. I've seen enough horrible failures with HTC devices already when alpha testing
Good job cmonex and Olipro!
have HTC Blackstone SPA firmware to test... waiting for HSPL !
Olipro and Cmonex: the best!
Thanks to all mods
Congrats to all moderators who are doing fantastic jobs, dont have the phone yet but thanks guys, U all rocks
Yeah finally!!
Let the tests go fine and the flashes begin!
Great job man, many thanks!
Cheers.
Waiting patiently for the public release as well. Great job guys, once this gets wrapped up a world of rom cooking will open for the already great HD.
Thanks, please do let us know if we can be of any help!
Guys
Now it is time for you to do some work while you wait.
The good news is that I have enough details to write the wiki page.
The bad news is that I am going to bed.
The worst news is that I have requested that the application not be realesed untill the site is prepered for that.
So you all have a few choices, sit and wait, do nothing and complain.
or
Help us help you.
This is what I need
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one the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
I need somebody to
1) opne the page, add there name in it under ??? on the top line
2) Save the page so that nobody mess with you
3) Check for spelling
4) Check it is readable and understandable
5) Check the content that it is nobb proof.
6) Correct what needs to be corrected.
7) Remove the first commnet
8) Post in this thread that it has been done (so that I know about it)
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On the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
I need sombody to extract that shp.exe and follow the outline that I have placed.
Look at how I formated the first page when it came to the files.
I will pick it up some other time.
I also am lost for words on the HSPL issue, need sobody toexplain it.
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We need to update the roms as people will want them
here is what I wrote on that subject
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3037840&postcount=4
the WIKI page that needs updating is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
Also one needs to check the forum for theads as a few other roms have poped up.
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So guys, help us to help you and let some of us with day jobs go to bed.
Thanks
And guys
Please lets use the thread to check what has been done as I don't want to read through 18 pages of "I am waiting" to read about what has not been done.
Like I said, help us help you.
HDUser said:
Guys
Now it is time for you to do some work while you wait.
The good news is that I have enough details to write the wiki page.
The bad news is that I am going to bed.
The worst news is that I have requested that the application not be realesed untill the site is prepered for that.
So you all have a few choices, sit and wait, do nothing and complain.
or
Help us help you.
This is what I need
----------------- 1 -----------------------
one the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
I need somebody to
1) opne the page, add there name in it under ??? on the top line
2) Save the page so that nobody mess with you
3) Check for spelling
4) Check it is readable and understandable
5) Check the content that it is nobb proof.
6) Correct what needs to be corrected.
7) Remove the first commnet
8) Post in this thread that it has been done (so that I know about it)
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On the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
I need sombody to extract that shp.exe and follow the outline that I have placed.
Look at how I formated the first page when it came to the files.
I will pick it up some other time.
I also am lost for words on the HSPL issue, need sobody toexplain it.
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We need to update the roms as people will want them
here is what I wrote on that subject
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3037840&postcount=4
the WIKI page that needs updating is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
Also one needs to check the forum for theads as a few other roms have poped up.
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So guys, help us to help you and let some of us with day jobs go to bed.
Thanks
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sure thing, I have a little spare time right now so I will contribute with you guys, just step one so far.....
I think I did step one, please feel free to correct or improve anything, glad to be of any help, cheers.
the-equinoxe said:
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As you all may have noticed the thread has been cleaned up.
From now on: keep it clean, stop begging, no whining.
Yes the HSPL will be released, yes it will be free.
[size=+2]Warning: those who leak the testversion will be banned, no exeptions![/size]
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I am sorry, but I still have to say I have got the so called HSPL in some forums. I downloaded it and have it tested. It worked. Someone said it is SSPL made by Cmonex not the HSPL.
I am not sure if it was the leaked test version. If you need it let me know.
Guys, Great Job. Thanks a lot.
skywalkeret said:
I am sorry, but I still have to say I have got the so called HSPL in some forums. I downloaded it and have it tested. It worked. Someone said it is SSPL made by Cmonex not the HSPL.
I am not sure if it was the leaked test version. If you need it let me know.
Guys, Great Job. Thanks a lot.
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Skywalkeret, what u have is leakage of Cmonex's testversion and so-called HSPL by someone, which makes you several steps to the success. what i know from Cmonex SSPL is not secure at this stage. And he/she does HOPE everyone can pay patience for the final HSPL release. THE PRE-LEAKAGE of SSPL WOULD MAKE HTC to improve their future "firewall" against HSPL, and I don't believe that EVERY EACH HTC OWNER or FANS would like to hear this sort of stuff?!
It is A REAL SHAME for those guys lost their promise to Cmonex and just make their own threads HOT, even DO NOT MENTION A WORD ABOUT THE GENERATOR OF THIS SSPL.
raphael_ding said:
Skywalkeret, what u have is leakage of Cmonex's testversion and so-called HSPL by someone, which makes you several steps to the success. what i know from Cmonex SSPL is not secure at this stage. And he/she does HOPE everyone can pay patience for the final HSPL release. THE PRE-LEAKAGE of SSPL WOULD MAKE HTC to improve their future "firewall" against HSPL. It is A REAL SHAME for those guys lost their promise to Cmonex and just make their own threads HOT, even DO NOT MENTION A WORD ABOUT THE GENERATOR OF THIS SSPL.
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Seems you are the right one i have talked to in some other forums. I sugguest we may do something to wake those guys up and warning them.
If there is anything I can help, please let me know.
Re: Raphael_ding
hey, ding. i got you. I must say, world is just like a box of chocolate. you dont know what you gona get lol. they just did it.
me? yes, im just waiting for the original olinex's NON-BETA version lol
again. thanks olinex's hard work. you let me flash a lot of ROM on my S1, TOUCH PRO, ....and my future HD.
skywalkeret said:
Seems you are the right one i have talked to in some other forums. I sugguest we may do something to wake those guys up and warning them.
If there is anything I can help, please let me know.
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THX, Skywalkeret, what we can do is to post sth. and let those guys know about what they are doing. And better ask forum moderators to eliminate those leakege threads ASAP.
Cheers

Flashing with out a HardSpl,

It seems that it is possible to flash the HD2 with with out HardSpl, Is it possible to do this with the Tilt2/TouchPro2's ?
Anyone interesting taking on this project ?
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty..
This is worth reading, it is possible to flash without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, Here is the thread discussing it, hopefully this will be possible on the tilt2 in the near future.
HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Credit goes to bebe for developing this for the HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=270777
I don't know. HSPL is superbly easy, and if your device is too broken to see what the SPL is, you don't have to worry about the repair center seeing what SPL is loaded. If it's still a usable albeit somewhat borked device, just find the stock SPL/ROM/radio and flash that mofo befo' shippin' it off. Hell, you're in USA and on AT$T, too. Phone insurance for thew win, dude. Went from kaiser to rhodium for $125, and free after customer service fu*ked with the wrong mofo.
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
BTT it seems that is a good bit of success of flashing without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, if it can be done on the HD2 then is should possible on the Tilt2 / touch Pro or any other HTC phone..
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty.
F2504x4 said:
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
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HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
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and it would be "free" except for all the Voluntary donations the chef would receive from this..
F2504x4 said:
If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
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I don't see how that makes things a "whole lot easier". It looks to be about as complex a procedure as installing HardSPL, except it has to be done every time you flash, whereas once you have HardSPL:
1) Flashing via USB requires fewer steps
2) Flashing from MicroSD is possible
3) You can flash radios
So tell me how it is a "whole lot easier" when the initial step is approximately the same complexity, and subsequent ROM flashes do not have the reduction in complexity that HardSPL provides?
The problem with the HardSPL is that it many people are having problems and they do not respond to support requests anymore, even with donations. That is why were looking to do it without HardSPL.
sounds like a coup is about to happen!
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
DaveShaw said:
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
thekewlone12 said:
What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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So long as the SPL you have (Hard or Stock) matches closely with the original one HTC intended for that ROM, you will be fine.
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
tonev said:
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
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Please see the HardSPL sticky thread, which is the correct place for this, and where I have tried to help you.
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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No I CANT HARDSPL MY phone so it does not take 3 minutes it takes 3 days 5 hours ( and still counting )
Gunstar_Hero said:
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
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So you are saying that even if I donate for hardspl it won't work?
90% chance that if you're having problems installing HardSPL, this approach is as likely to (if not more likely to) fail for you.
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
Entropy512 said:
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
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Must do automatic flash while synced with pc also.
I asked about this a while ago and got the same kinda responses

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