This HTC graphics problem got me thinking - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi all, i'm a noob here and would firstly like to say hi to everyone and well done to all concerned for the content and information found here... I have had my phone for less than a week and already it has been flashed with a new ROM
I have read with interest numerous threads and petitions about the HTC graphics problems. I read something earlier where someone said they had contacted HTC about this issue and pointed HTC to this forum (as I am sure alot of people have done). My question is as follows.....If HTC decide to come on here and look at the site to gather information/have a look at what people are saying about the graphics issue...what do you think they make of all the threads containing their software that is freely available for download?
I would be concerned that they may a little upset and try to force the software to be taken off??? Maybe I am missing something and the software is freeware but I doubt it very much.
I suppose my question could extend to things like ROMS etc with other mnfrs software on it also.
Anyway apologies if this is a somewhat random post but I was just wondering...and before anyone asks...NO I AM NOT AN HTC EMPLOYEE Or do I wish to cause any friction.
Chris

Welcome, HTC.

Yes welcome HTC! If you would make your Products perform properly right out of the box I wouldnt have to spend hour on hour cooking new ROM's or extracting apps from one device to port to another. Maybe one day you will wake up and see that you could be the best PDA provider out there if it not for one small issue! You leave us hanging on important things and leave it up to us to fix your mistakes so please HTC get your sh*t together and blow my mind with the next device!

PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment

c.b said:
PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment
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They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.

they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!

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They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.
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DOH!!! I read it wrong when the first reply said Welcome, HTC..thank god for that..I thought I was going to be in for thousands of messages asking me about graphics drivers

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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My sentiments exactly.. And I'm sure their not the only 1's!!!

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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LOL.. I do get the impression that there are some talented people here.

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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It's not only bug fixes from guys like you faria but the forum also provides a completely cost free customer survey/opinion base of product performance, enhancements and application inclusions.
Up until now though, I don't think they have had enough incentive to fix past issues because they thought the complaints were not serious enough to effect future sales.
They definately have reason to worry this time....

For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten

ericc191 said:
For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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IMO - Having switched from an Eten x500 to the TYTN II/Kaiser I personally would not recommend it over a Kaiser. My experiences of it in a year of use how been far exceeded by 1 week of use with my TYTN II.

ericc191 said:
For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them

Eraser85 said:
Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them
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Yeah, all I meant was that I'd move to a different brand. I just threw Eten out there cause it was the first thing that popped into my head.

yea eric, im pretty sure i'd do the same. im hoping for a hit on the next one

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AT&t tilt is all I thought and more

You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
ok grandma
How much did U pay for that tilt? And what do U like most about it? Did U have a Hermes before it?
hermes
Ive had the 2125, 3125, 8125, 8525 actually I was choosen because of my data knowledge and it is for company official use and I am probably going to buy one as well. and thanks for the grandma post I just figured I would let everyone know to be prepared.
tilt
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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**Cough** Dual processor...?????
dual
yes it all
heres a nice little pdf with info on the processor for those interested. http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
buffalosolja42 said:
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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Network enhancment ?? are you referring to faste HSPDA?
What could be so nice about an integrated GPS chip that will make our heads "spin" ?
In my opinion integrated GPS, means I don't have to carry an extra gadget
with me... that's it.
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
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You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
RacerX10 said:
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
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Yeah. It would be best to describe it as a "radio coprocessor".
It will probably result in zero improvement if not transferring data, very little if you're on an EDGE network. Probably the only situation one would notice any significant difference would be HSDPA.
No i noticed better performance all around from the radio after getting my Kaiser it makes the web load faster and emails send quicker! this should have been done in the hermes! I wuld say web pages load twice as fast! It almost feels like HSUPA has already been rolled out here in NYC with how fast this thing uploadeds.
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Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
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That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
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dwella said:
That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
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Geez, maybe we should have a public flogging for this guy LOL. "The thread is titled "at&t tilt is all I thought and more" considering hes the first to get one that I have heard of I am glad to hear some things confirmed such as gps. I for one appreciate his posting some feedback on a device we with at&t are waiting for. Im simply saying give the guy a break and let him enjoy his new phone.
Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
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released roms
Roms in any company are not released to all in the company until tech support runs them on a trial basis. If you purchase your on device you can change the roms as you see fit, otherwise the one the company gives you is for company use. Read the part.. I just thought I would tell everyone that it is coming out because I like this site. You guys are treating me like I am misinforming you due to any company policy it is not in anybody's interest to release other details. I have a family to take care of telling all about it could jepardize my job. If I knew that I would get this response I would have never posted. Well I hope whenever you get one to all those complaining that you enjoy it and as far as the dual processor goes that is the way it was positioned to us. And for your knowledge point of view I have a bs in CIS/Math if I had time I would right my own roms, hacks, etc. But when you have kids other things come to mind. And as I said I use this sight for a reference I don't have THE TIME to right and test my own roms. Thanks for making a new guy feel welcome though. (Sorry about the spelling wasn't happy with reads on the post) But when it comes down to it I still have a tilt
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Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
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roms arent available to everyone in the company... well they are, but you have to be smart enough to know where to find them... chances are that 99% of att wireless employees dont know where to find the pre-public roms.. they arent beta, but their not public either.. and even being a manager doesnt mean you get your phones for free, hell employees deals arent all that great..
buffalosolja42 said:
You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Thank you, but can you tell us(or me) if the GPS is locked to using only a specific software or can it be used by any navigation software i.e. Tom Tom?

video driver problem already fixed

i am taiwaneese and my brother lives in taiwan and works for htc he told me that htc already solved the issue and in march will be releasing and upgraded version of the kaiser that will have the new driver installed
laughoutloud123 said:
i am taiwaneese and my brother lives in taiwan and works for htc he told me that htc already solved the issue and in march will be releasing and upgraded version of the kaiser that will have the new driver installed
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So our brand new phones are obsolete already? I'm having issues believing that. Have any proof of this anyways?
4206 wimbelton dr dallas
Are they going to give the already Kaiser a free trade in? Or do we have to go out and buy this?
this is bad very bad ,they update the driver nd to bad for the people that aleady purchased the unit!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
another thing your thread states already fixed
not true or else it would be already available as an update and another thing why believe you when your user name is laugh atloud ?????
dont worry. we the cooks will just extract the new drivers and cook them into the roms.
leoiden said:
this is bad very bad ,they update the driver nd to bad for the people that already purchased the unit!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????
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Yeah, that sounds pretty wack to me!
Pawel062 said:
dont worry. we the cooks will just extract the new drivers and cook them into the roms.
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Great point. But it really sucks that we have to wait till March!!! I wish it was by January at max.
But if HTC has solved this problem why would they not release a ROM Upgrade for the current TyTn II users. ROM's with bug fixes have been fairly common in the past. As I understand the driver issue is a software issue and not a hardware issue. Experts!! I am correct??
Not to mention the poster has only 4 posts......sounds like a troll to me
Plus i heard the updates will be available throught the new Windows Update feature.
it's amazing !!!
the solution exist but doesn't be share !!!
Why your brother doesn't send the driver to the forum ?
I think this forum have the best programmers to include it in a new rom !!!
and it's worst that htc doesn't publish it !!!!
Happy new year (take that on left hand as a bad joke in regard of this thread, and on right hand for my wishes !)
hm..real...or fake..?
not just that, but assuming qualcomm's current legal and shortage of chips troubles, whats the odds that the new TyTn (as the OP was stating) will be using a qualcomm chip? This seems very unlikely. So really the driver issue HASN'T been fixed, since we can be 99% sure that the new chipsets will not be from qualcomm.
I think we are unnecessarily torturing somebody who wanted to give us some good news. Upgrades of software usually are released to fix multiple small problems all in one, not piecemeal. If the brother of laughoutloud were to release the code, he could lose his job as well! Let's wait and hold for some good things to come in 08, if everything gets released right away, then what is there for our phones to look forward to?
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear... the proof is in the pudding. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, keep the pressure on.
this guy is full of Sh!t
the only way to know if it is or not a fake is if he posts the driver on the forum and we test it.. but for now.. for mi is a fake..
even if it was real, they cant just go behind the company's back and post up the driver before it's schedule release date. serious fines and penalties.
You guys dont need to believe him, dont need to call him a fake or call him names. just wait and see, nothing can be done about it anyways. if it doesnt release in march than okay call him a fake. until then, shouldnt speculate.
If he is a fake, he probably enjoying himself right now watchin everyone get so worked up over it. If he is real, well he probably just got a big bad impression about the members of XDA forums.
or maybe if the guy will talk to us a little more and not leave us hanging. or let us contact his brother via email or something as proof?

Poor performance

I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
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upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
Cheers
@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT

...I'm considering getting another phone to replace the Diamond.

The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
why everybody that think about changing the diamond feel the urge to announce it in a new thread that is coming to become a mess like all the same threads on the same subject? why? you are a senior member, you should know better.
i recommend you to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
and afterward do what u please. no big deal...good luck!
please keep the forum clean!
I "Should"? "Senior" member doesn't mean jack as it's only post count related.
I don't see why that thread is recommended...maybe I'm missing something?
Chatbox said:
The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
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and... ? This was so important that you had to open a new post?
Buy E71 and Good Bye Or maybe I should try to convince you not to do it or something
I will open a new post tomorrow saying what I've ate at lunch :]
The forum will be then definitely more readable.
100% AGREE wit KukurikU.
Simply the fact that this thread is useless, doesn't bring any information, plus the facts cited are plainly wrong in my experience.
That's all you're missing. Good bye and good luck with your new phone. The corresponding forum awaits you.
Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
Chatbox said:
Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
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Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
pedmond said:
Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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"contribute" in the form of "useful information": no.
But I do have a question: With all the devices from HTC in the past, do they perform better over time, with newer ROM releases? Does HTC bother much with ROM updates even after the launch of each product? I guess I should have posted the "question" in the first post of this thread...but then again...it wouldn't be considered as useful information. Given this, it's why I'm trying to hold off my other purchase.
P.S. Not directed at anyone, but, some people on these forums just have a "I'm better than you" complex and have the urge to reply to threads saying "why start a new thread". Geez...just don't reply to it, it'll eventually be history and move itself down the list of threads. Unless you're the administrator concerning with storage issues.
i want my 2 mins back...
well I dont have a problem with the Accelerometer or the Alarm sound not repeating, and the memory leak for me stabilises at 70% and stuff works fine and fast 4 me even then... go buy you symbian device if you want and perhaps get an iphone while your at it, good luck and good bye.
Leave the guy alone!
chatbox, i too just got the E71 after having the DIamond since its release, infact i think this will be my last Windows Mobile Phone well at least till windows 7 comes out.
I got so sick & tired of every rom, having either issues, or being slow at "certain" tasks & also the fact that with WMP's you need 2-3 steps to do the same task in 1 step on say a Nokia. Also once you use hard buttons like the keyboard on E71 you'll hate touch screen keyboard were its slow & many mistakes.
I will though miss flashing roms & trying diffrent tweaks in the registery etc..etc..
But honestly its a phone & i need 3 major tasks in a phone.
Simple, Fast & stable.
If u try the E71, i promise u wont regret it bro.
I think chatbox is desperately trying to find some solution for diamond problems he is suffering from using this thread. A last try just before leaving the boat.
I dont tink that is wrong from him. After all this community forum is all about assisting each other. If he is asking for help or openion that will not mess up the forum
Senior Members... we highly appreciate your contributions to make or lives easier using diamond and making this forum the most comprehensive information / tools source all over the web however dont expect that all other members are as good as you in the know-how issue so please bear with us
Cheers
Enough!
Enough of this!

physical keyboard problems

on my physical keyboard on my tilt some of the keys are not very responsive...they dont have good tactile feedback when you push on them. it really came to my attention when i worked on one of my co-workers tilt and his had a lot better feedback...dont know if its fixable or not?? ideas?
Sometimes it amazes me on what people will post now days.
Either send it in for service or get a new keyboard and replace it.
that's funny it amazes me that there are still people out there (such as yourself) who take the time to post a worthless reply...and you are shocked at my post...
think you should step back and think before you post.
and just so you know i did have a replacment sent to me but it felt the same as mine so i sent it back. FYI we have about 6 tilts in my office i've checked 2 of them and there is a definite difference in the feel.
Are you expecting a cab fix for worn out keys? Seriously?
You're complaining about the feel of your keyboard, so what do you expect from anyone here? It's not a software problem, and your not happy with a hardware fix, what else is there?
ChumleyEX said:
Are you expecting a cab fix for worn out keys? Seriously?
You're complaining about the feel of your keyboard, so what do you expect from anyone here? It's not a software problem, and your not happy with a hardware fix, what else is there?
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Not to beat a dead horse or prolong this thread, but I agree and I will try to be nice,. If you don't like your phone, the feel , the speed , the camera, the video playback and the hundreds of whines about the tilt, then get a new phone. The waste of time time here is not the response, it is the fact that much of this forum has turned into the weiner whiner line.
I love my Tilt, it is the best phone I have ever had and I have had a lot. If you don't like HTC or your phone, get a new one, nice and simple.
starting to wish i never posted this...
I love my tilt. no, i'm not expecting a software fix. (even though at&t had me reboot my phone in attempt to fix it) yes i would be happy with a hardware fix...its just the replacement phone i got was the same.
if you have access to more than one device try a couple of them out see if you can notice the difference in keyboards (my co-workers can, and they can tell that mine has some issue)
what i was hoping for was someone who is aware of what i'm talking about and could say yea...take your phone a part and do this to fix it...instead im getting this (see above)
who ever is in charge feel free to kill this thread because it's going no where fast!!!!
Per request thread closed. You can replace the keyboard if you want, though personally i'd pay someone to do that for you rather than trying it yourself if it's that big an issue. You could also try a warranty replacement if you're eligible.
Side Note: Senior members and should know better than to go around harrassing noobs with silly questions. It is the job of those who know more to educate those who know less. If you choose to not be helpful then it is much better to say nothing. No need to create drama where there wasn't any. Just a reminder to all.

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