Emulation of Logitech diNovo Mini - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

Hello,
some weeks ago I have this discovered this mini-keyboard, which you can link to the PC via bluetooth and use as a keyboard and mouse:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=us,en
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0MF58-ElA
My first impression when I saw it, it was that this device looks similar to my TyTn 2, especially when the PDA has the keyboard open...
So, this is exactly my question. Exists any kind of software for my PDA that allows to link the keyboard of the TyTn to the PC and, for example, use its touch-screen as a mouse?
Thanks

very interesting i would also be very interested in this as well...

That is a pretty good idea. I got a freee BT keyboard from amazon though.

yea there is, but it uses wifi. I can't remember the name of it now, but I think it was posted already. I will look when I get home.

http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/

tried and hit wall
Last week I begun developing/experimenting on such an app, to use the kaiser as a bluetooth HID mouse.
I did manage to get windows to recognize and install it as a HID mouse, but could not establish a connection. The problem is that the M$ bluetooth stack does not seem to allow me to attach to the L2CAP layer and implement my custom profile (the HID profile in this case).
If anyone has more information on how to access the L2CAP, please share .
The kaiser would be a wonderful remote mouse/keyboard for my htpc configuration!
hypest

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Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?

Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Bluetooth is Bluetooth, no? What happens when you try to pair the two devices? That's a sweet idea, by the way.
I think this might interest you as well. There's a way to connect a BT mouse to WM devices. I found it on Handango.com, although, strangely, it doesn't show up if you select the AT&T Tilt as your device (but it does show up with any WM5 device).
BlueMouse
I'm going back to grad school soon, and am loving the prospect of carrying 3 small devices that (almost) do the same thing as one heavy laptop!
EDIT: Just read through this thread, and WM6 actually has native support for BT mice! Except for Microsoft's own BT mice... lol. However, I think BlueMouse supports them.
Have a look at this link for a cheap alternative :
http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Blackberry-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE
Buy it while stocks last, I would have brought one but I live in the UK and shipping will be too expensive along with any other taxes they may want to add unless one of you guys can send me one.
Pairing
I have a Logitech bluetooth keyboard with an integrated touchpad. But when I try to pair them, my device just doesn't find the keyboard.
Although I find it amusing, I believe it is even slower using a bluetooth mouse for my phone, than actually using the touch function
But we are atleast on the right track.
For now, I use pocket controller for using my keyboard. But the downside is that it's slow and you need your device connected to the computer at all times.
Imagine using a regular bluetooth keyboard! What a dream ^^
Have you tried using a regular bluetooth keyboard that doesn't have an integrated touchpad? There could be something about that configuration that WM can't handle.
Tec1106 said:
Is there a way for me to use a regular PC Bluetooth keyboard for my TyTN II?
I have this keyboard that would really work well with the device.
It would prove to be a really cheap alternative to the keyboard that is made for the PDA's, plus, it would make alot of things alot easier.
I would assume you must make a program that can read the signals made by the keyboard, but is this possible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
Connecting
3waygeek said:
Assuming your PC BT keyboard supports the HID profile (it probably does), it should work with the Kaiser right out of the box, as the WM6 Bluetooth stack has HID drivers built-in.
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Ok. Now my device actually finds the keyboard, but I can't connect it. When I click connect, it asks for a password. I enter nothing, and it continues to where I can select the purpose for the keyboard. When I press finish, my device tells me that the keyboard wants to connect to my phone. Now I need a password to continue, so therfore I enter a random password, like 1111. Then my device waits for a few minutes, and tells me the keyboard has failed connecting.
I have a DiNivo Edge keyboard, if it's any help
Any ideas?
Thx ^^
Maybe...
Maybe I need a specific code, or a way to make the keyoard agree to the connection.
Difficult
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
3waygeek said:
Try 0000 -- that's almost always the default password for BT devices.
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Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
Tec1106 said:
Thank you, but I've already tried it. The keyboard behaves like a phone, making my phone waiting for the keyboard to input a password. Damn :\
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Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
Farsquidge said:
Sorry this may seem stupid, but have you got the user maual for the keyboard? Or tried the manufacturers site if not? They may have a general config for it (PC and WM device association key will be the same).
Otherwise, look around the keyboard (and even in the battery compartment of the keyboard) for a four digit number to try.
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No, it doesn't sound stupid Sometimes even the smartest person forgets the simpliest resolutions
But I have already tried that, except for the battery compartment. I have no idea how to open it, cause it's an internal rechargeable battery. But if there is an opening somewhere, I'll take a peek inside for a four digit number
Thanks!
Been looking ...
... everywhere on the net, but still haven't found a way to connect the keyboard :\ Anyone that has the DiNivo Edge keyboard, and could help me with this? It would be more than appreciated
Thank you!
Nothing works
I'm giving up
Tec1106 said:
I'm giving up
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Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
Farsquidge said:
Don't,
I've looked up the Logitech Dinvo Edge and it looks as if it comes with a proprietory BT USB dongle for PC connection and all setup is done through an install CD (for the PC).
Do you have the CD because the 4-digit pin may be on the setup instructions. Failing that, it may be best to go to your first post on this thread and edit the title to be a bit more specific such as ' Logitech Dinvo Edge BT KB, working anyone?'
Give it a go.
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Now, two months later, I am still clueless about how to get this working. Anyone having better luck than me?
I think you should enter your own passcode first on your PDA, and quickly typing the passcode on your BT KBD while PDA is waiting..
I could connect with Apple BT, Microsoft BT kbd..

Can we turn Kaiser into diNovo mini?

After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
zhimingmo said:
After seeing diNovo mini in action, it's got me so aroused!
This triggers me to think about bringing WM device to be a more interactive media device, especially, something like Logitech's diNovo mini for HTPC.
I'm just wondering if any developer can come up with an app that connects Kaiser to the PC via bluetooth, and turn it into an input device with the qwerty keyboard and touchscreen as a touchpad D best if this can be integrated with Sideshow! LOL). Silly?
p.s. Hey! I know I'm just daydreaming~but if anyone has the same ideas, interests, and ability to make this happen, summon your strengths!
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Actually, I've been looking for a way to do this myself The closest I've got, is using remote desktop connected to the computer through WiFi. It's fun, but unpractial and not quite the solution i was looking for.
So, this possible?
I use "Signal" a program for controlling iTunes via Wifi which works well as i use itunes to stream music to different parts of the house. Its also skinable too!
In the past with my Blue Angel not only did i use that but also used Novii Remote for Stereo, TV, Sky, DVD etc and also as a remote for lights in my house.
Almost like House hold universal remote!
I have found a program called salling clicker that will control almost any media program. It also does mouse control and can send the keyboard input to the computer.
The problem is the mouse control and keyboard input are separate parts of the program so for example if I want to type in the address bar I have to go into mouse mode, move the cursor up to the bar and tap, then go into the message mode and type the address, then back to mouse mode. If it were all tied in together it would be the ultimate program for that. They may make an improvement on it too I haven't checked lately.
BTW, this is a much better deal than just the Denovo Mini because with the phone you have the screen to look at when browsing for files etc.
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
Digitaltigre said:
I found a script somebody did for salling clicker that puts keyboard and mouse together. It's written for the TyTN but works on my TyTNII. I'm also going to look into tweaking it this weekend! Looks like I need to return my Dinovo Mini.
http://www.salling.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6298
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Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
bronx said:
OMG...
maaan... You just made my day.
thanks a thousand times- works like a charm.
and imagine that I was thinking of buying a wireless mouse+ keys combo for my laptop plugged to 32" lcd.
damn. this is the greatest app ever makin me love my kaiser even mo'. woo hoo! surfing from the sofa
br
bro
P.S. I am aware of the fact, that I do overact a bit on it, but You gotta try this to believe. screen is a touchpad, while slide- out keys are mapped as a proper keyboard. a must have imho.
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I'm glad I made your day. It's nice to share the little gems that we find!
art12345 said:
Anybody can explain how to use this script on HTC Kaiser? I don't have any idea how start with this one...
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First you have to get the program called 'Salling Clicker' - it installs on your computer that you want to control.
When you have it installed and your PDA setup to connect using wifi or bt you just have to add the custom script onto your computer in the My Documents/My Clicker Scripts folder.
Then add the script using the programs menu on the computer and connect using your phone.

External HD keyboard

I'd like to use an external bluetooth keyboard with the HD2.
It should:
1) Be compatible with HD2
2) Be compact / foldable
3) Should include "mouse" support (touchpad, trackpoint, ...)
4) If possible it should be able to hold the HD2 (Athena like)
Could anybody recommend one?
Would HD2 transparently work with any BT/HID keyboard including the mouse support (pointer displayed on HD2 screen driven by trackpoint/touchpad from BT keyboard)?
Same here. Just wanted to push this thread. I would be very much interested in having such a device since my laptop is crap and I never gonna buy one again.
HD2 questionmarks
Nobody has an experience connecting bluetooth keyboard and mouse to Windows Mobile device???
And second question: is there a chance that HD2 is physically able to have USB Host and TV Out, but there just aren't drivers and TV cable at the moment?
I have - I used to use BlueInput drivers from Teksoft to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with my Touch HD.
Unfortunately however the HD2 seems to be using Broadcom bluetooth stack drivers that aren't compatible with BlueInput (Touch Pro2 owners have the same problem), so now I can't use then anymore -_-... at least until they make the BlueInput software compatible with Broadcom drivers or some Chef hacks in the Microsoft Bluetooth stack into a custom rom.
Haven't tried the default Stowaway keyboard drivers that came with the keyboard though, so maybe I can get the keyboard working again, but not the mouse until BlueInput is working.
Also very interested! Love how the Celio Redfly worked with my X1 but with HD2 no luck so far...
yep looking on with much interest
Guys, redfly is working. for both bluetooth connection and usb.
Also, as for kb, i recommand logitech dinovo mini. Its great
conect usb keyboard
I like to connect usb keyboard is this possible....i need help.. the bluetooth keyboard i dont like it because it takes to connect ...is posible for usb.
thank gracias
Dear Folks
I have the iGO bluetooth keyboard that works great - I purchased this about 18 months ago for use with my Nokia E63.
Now I keep it on my desk and is an excellent way of replying to emails and text messages.
I am going to try SWYPE, for when I'm on the move.
Regards
ADC (Yateley, UK)
I have tried a few blutooth keyboards but you can't seem to use the arrow keys like you would want to..
The arrow keys work fine on my BB keyboard.
ADC
aussiebum said:
I have - I used to use BlueInput drivers from Teksoft to connect a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard with my Touch HD.
Unfortunately however the HD2 seems to be using Broadcom bluetooth stack drivers that aren't compatible with BlueInput (Touch Pro2 owners have the same problem), so now I can't use then anymore -_-... at least until they make the BlueInput software compatible with Broadcom drivers or some Chef hacks in the Microsoft Bluetooth stack into a custom rom.
Haven't tried the default Stowaway keyboard drivers that came with the keyboard though, so maybe I can get the keyboard working again, but not the mouse until BlueInput is working.
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It seems we'll have this the easy way. Teksoft has posted a news on their site, about a Broacom compatible Blueinput version.

Bluetooth Keyboard / Mouse

Not having much luck at locating a bluetooth keyboard and mouse (compact in size) that is proven to work with the HD2. Any help? Thanks.
I know this keyboard works ...
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/mini-bluetooth-keyboard-for-smartphones/
I use a full size apple bluetooth keyboard personally ...
Have not seen one , but I don't think a mouse will work at all, don't think the phone has mouse cursor support ...
MyMobiler
I use MyMobiler when I am at my computer. It allows me to use my computer to type and my mouse to click on things.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
jkitsmiller said:
I use MyMobiler when I am at my computer. It allows me to use my computer to type and my mouse to click on things.
http://www.mymobiler.com/
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MyMobiler is so cool. While it doesn't replace a blue tooth keyboard and mouse, to be able to control your phone from the PC is mostly there. And it's free
Thanks for the link.
Well, there was one bluetooth mouse (regular small mouse, with scroll wheel and all) that, besides working on a regular PC with standard BT HID profile, came with a software driver for Windows Mobile, and one could use it with any WM device, so I assume it would work with the HD2.
It is the Stowaway BT Mouse, from Think Outside, the same company that made various full-size fold-up BT keyboards (which also work on any WM device).
Unfortunately, Stowaway was bought up by IGo (who mainly makes universal AC adaptors for laptops), and shortly thereafter, they shelved the whole product line. (Pretty dumb to buy up a company, then shelve its products, especially not being a competitor.) (And with the explosion in smartphones, I think that could be a growing niche, especially the keyboards. (Of course, now they would need to expand support for Iphone, Android, Blackberry, etc., as well as WM.)
So, that mouse and its software has been discontinued. However, I would bet that you could still find them on Ebay, Craigslist, etc. Look for Stowaway Bluetooth Mouse.

Compatible Bluetooth Mouse?

Has anyone found a compatible bluetooth mouse? I can't find a standalone bluetooth mouse that will successfully pair with my DB (I have tried a Targus Model#: AMB04US and a Think Outside BT Mouse).
Furthermore, all posts I can find relating to the subject are for a keyboard with a built-in trackpad but I hate trackpads. I want to use a standalone bluetooth mouse and don't want to have to buy a dock (I am using the Webtop hack that bypasses the need for a dock).
Thanks in advance.
I successfully used my MS Bluetooth Mouse 5000 on the web-top. But here's the thing that might be causing your issue with the other mice: When I went to pair the mouse with the web-top it was waiting for me to enter a pairing code on the phone screen window and since i had that window behind a Firefox window and I didn't realize it the pairing process kept failing.
Logitech has a mouse out meant for android tablets. Maybe give that one a try?
XDA Community: Please post other mice that have worked?
TheNinthPlayer said:
I successfully used my MS Bluetooth Mouse 5000 on the web-top. But here's the thing that might be causing your issue with the other mice: When I went to pair the mouse with the web-top it was waiting for me to enter a pairing code on the phone screen window and since i had that window behind a Firefox window and I didn't realize it the pairing process kept failing.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I get the pairing code window, but when I enter 0000, 1234, or 4321 (per Motorola Support's suggestion), they all fail. Targus support says it is because there is no PIN required. So if I enter something then delete the pin I entered (just to get the OK button to activate), it still fails.
I'm glad to hear that the MS Bluetooth Mouse 5000 works though. It appears reasonably priced online. Motorola wants me to go buy their mouse for $40+shipping. Seems a bit steep for something that clearly isn't working due to software incompatibility.
XDA Community: Please post other mice that have worked?
I wanted to close out this topic by giving others the following insight:
The MS Bluetooth 5000 mouse works flawlessly with my Droid Bionic both in standalone mode (nothing attached) and in Webtop mode (with the WebtopMod_Hack that enables you to get to webtop without a dock). I purchased it for $18 from a seller on eBay and found other sellers listing it for $20-$25.
Hope this helps future purchasers out.
Same here...
I'd also like to chime in and say the Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse 5000 works just fine.
It really irks me though, because I have an older (ironically) Bluetooth Mouse 8000 which I really liked because it had an integrated laser pointer and presentation controls on the underside of it. I could never get it to pair.
Microsoft must have made some changes in the device firmware stack because now with the 5000, I could get it to pair to my Bionic using the passkey 0000.
No matter what I tried, the 8000 would not pair.
-Rob
I've just picked up Logitech's V470, and it works great! No issues
www(dot)logitech(dot)com/en-us/428/3287
Stock, rooted, web top mod
Ebay link for $19.95 Microsoft 5000 Bluetooth Mouse
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220875044915
Just thought it would be helpful for someone!! I just bought one thanks for the tips.
jlee1026 said:
I've just picked up Logitech's V470, and it works great! No issues
www(dot)logitech(dot)com/en-us/428/3287
Stock, rooted, web top mod
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Identical setup (stock, rooted, webtop mod), identical results! In fact the V470 has worked on DX, Xoom, and now the Bionic for me with no issues.
Same problem with microsoft notebook presenter mouse 8000
Same problem. Imposible to sync MS Mouse notebook . (Asus Transformer Prime TF201)
robroy90 said:
I'd also like to chime in and say the Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse 5000 works just fine.
It really irks me though, because I have an older (ironically) Bluetooth Mouse 8000 which I really liked because it had an integrated laser pointer and presentation controls on the underside of it. I could never get it to pair.
Microsoft must have made some changes in the device firmware stack because now with the 5000, I could get it to pair to my Bionic using the passkey 0000.
No matter what I tried, the 8000 would not pair.
-Rob
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I have the wireless Apple Mighty Mouse that I use with my Mac and that paired up well with the phone.
I'm running the latest CM9 SELFKANG. The cursor works fine. Scrolling with the trackball is great. Clicking is fine. But it lags and locks up horribly on stock. Anyone else notice that?
Mouse Acceleration?
Do you have any mouse acceleration with the mice you have tried? I just tried to plug in a Logitech MX518 to the USB-port and i have terrible mouse acceleration (when you move the mouse slowly the mouse sensitivity is really low, but when you move the mouse fast the sensitivity is much higher).
I need to find a mouse that does not do this (or a program that will correct it).
I found a solution to this maddening issue!!!
Solution is very simple!
1) Download an app called bluetooth pairing in Play Store, its in japanese but all you need to do is click the magnifying glass icon, then click your device and hit the big blue button that comes next..
2) Disable and enable your bluetooth on the phone, the device is already paired
3) Select the device and it works perfectly.
Discovered this fix accidentally..
I use the Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000. Works awesome no need for a third party program the mouse cursor works fine and you can find tune the mouse cursor in the language and input settings of the settings menu. I really like using the scroll wheel and you can even use right click with in ES File Explorer.
I use this same mouse with my laptop.
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Anyone tried a Razer Orochi mouse? That is the bluetooth mouse I want to pick up for my laptop since I hate dongles and am adding a bluetooth transmitter internally to the laptop. Would be nice to have a mouse that will work for both my laptop and for my DB with the lapdock. I know that with the lapdock most USB dongle wireless mice will work but I hate dongles and I know one day I'm going to lose the stupid thing and be SOL.

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