Tilt Battery Issue - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Has anyone experiencing a massive battery drop after using tomtom? After using tomtom I closed it and it appeared to be on the bottom of my screen.. after clicking on it.. it bring up the navigator title at the top with the today screen.. and wouldn't shut down.. after i soft resetted it.. the battery dropped from 60% to nearly 15%
Has anybody experienced this?

Yes, using the GPS is a known battery drain issue, there is nothing to do reduce battery drain while GPS is running.

hollywould said:
Yes, using the GPS is a known battery drain issue, there is nothing to do reduce battery drain while GPS is running.
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when i use mine in the car I just plug it in to reduce battery drain
seriously though yes the battery drains fast with GPS, but I've also noticed it drains fast when using my phone as an MP3 player... I was using it friday with full charge and only got about 6 hours out of it

thanks for the quick responses.. but this was a period of maybe 20 minutes.. seemed to me like a glitch or something..
the tomtom icon appeared at the bottom right hand corner.. and whenever i tried accessing it.. it wouldnt come up.. the light wasnt flashing amber either..

GPS, as suggested by This thread, is one of the problems.
I find that 3G eats up battery. Forcing your phone to disconnect with 3G after a length of certain minutes can save your battery when your note using 3G.

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Is this normal?

Hi guys,
Recently installed GPRS monitor that came with HTC tytn II... and on the main screen theres a little indicator telling you your battery life...
Mine reaches a maximum of 3:00... 3 hours?! is this normal????
can anyone shed light on this?
I usually have the phone connect to a laptop so I am not sure what my battery life is...
Joe
Mines starts with 1.5 hours but last few days......dont know why but this spb gprs monitor (the version that came with my o2 Stellar) used to work great, for some reason it does not work anymore......well the battery life indication bit any ways....
battery life is only an estimate when used in optimum conditions with only standard usage so i wouldnt worry about it too much unless you notice it drain as fast as it states
i think i read somewhere in the kaiser forum that sometimes with gps reciever turned on there is some abnormal battery power drainage .. Other day i was using google maps with gps turned on and my battery went from 100 to 25% in half an hour .. yikes. However haven't had it happen using yesterday and this morning. Battery at 80% currently no charge.
hope this helps shed some light.
peace,
sire

Strange Battery Issue

Hey all, I'm new here since I just bought a used G1 on Craigslist after losing my previous phone, so this is my first Android phone. I rooted it and I've been messing around with the phone for the past week.
Everything's been working pretty well, but my battery behaves strangely. I'm current running BiffmodV2.1 on 2.22.28.25 using ezterry's kernel. I just did a clean wipe and calibrated the battery too.
The problem is, when it's sleeping (I put the end button behavior to sleep) it uses barely any battery. I leave it in sleep mode overnight and it goes down by maybe 2% tops. However, the second I start using it, the battery starts draining like crazy. It uses maybe 1% for every 1-2 mins I'm using the phone. I turned everything off (wifi, gps, data (I disabled data because I don't have a data plan), background data, sync), turned screen to dimmest, and setCPU to 528mhz. Even with all this, it still drains severely. When I use it for music with the screen off, it uses about 1% battery every 10 minutes, much better than the drain is nowhere near what it is when the screen is on (minimal use without music). When I put it to sleep with Wifi enabled, it also barely drains any battery, but same thing happens when it's awake.
Does anyone know a possible solution to this? I also recently bought a 1400mAh battery, but it's most likely coming tomorrow. The current battery is pretty old, it's the stock battery that the previous owner has been using for the past 2 years, but even then, it doesn't explain the difference in the battery drain.
TL;DR G1 battery drains like a mother when awake, uses almost no battery when asleep even with music playing. Looking for a fix.
EDIT: I also tried Super D 1.11, Chromatic, Cyanogen, and a few others. All had the same exact issue.
I'm having this exact same issue, my phone also turns off randomly when I'm using it. I didn't have this issue when using radio 2.22.27.08.
insanechinaman said:
Hey all, I'm new here since I just bought a used G1 on Craigslist after losing my previous phone, so this is my first Android phone. I rooted it and I've been messing around with the phone for the past week.
Everything's been working pretty well, but my battery behaves strangely. I'm current running BiffmodV2.1 on 2.22.28.25 using ezterry's kernel. I just did a clean wipe and calibrated the battery too.
The problem is, when it's sleeping (I put the end button behavior to sleep) it uses barely any battery. I leave it in sleep mode overnight and it goes down by maybe 2% tops. However, the second I start using it, the battery starts draining like crazy. It uses maybe 1% for every 1-2 mins I'm using the phone. I turned everything off (wifi, gps, data (I disabled data because I don't have a data plan), background data, sync), turned screen to dimmest, and setCPU to 528mhz. Even with all this, it still drains severely. When I use it for music with the screen off, it uses about 1% battery every 10 minutes, much better than the drain is nowhere near what it is when the screen is on (minimal use without music). When I put it to sleep with Wifi enabled, it also barely drains any battery, but same thing happens when it's awake.
Does anyone know a possible solution to this? I also recently bought a 1400mAh battery, but it's most likely coming tomorrow. The current battery is pretty old, it's the stock battery that the previous owner has been using for the past 2 years, but even then, it doesn't explain the difference in the battery drain.
TL;DR G1 battery drains like a mother when awake, uses almost no battery when asleep even with music playing. Looking for a fix.
EDIT: I also tried Super D 1.11, Chromatic, Cyanogen, and a few others. All had the same exact issue.
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Sounds like it's time for a new battery. It cant be the rom doing it since you've flashed so many and it still does the same thing. Try out your new battery when it come I'm pretty sure that'll fix it.
Got my new battery, and things are much better. It still drains a bit fast with the screen on and doing stuff (texting, browsing, etc) but the battery life is much better now. I'm guessing the new battery fixed it!

Battery life and usage..

I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery indicator also drops from 100% to 96% a few seconds after i take out the charger. But after 2 days i stille have about 15% battery left.
infatality said:
I'm having like 13hours to 14hours of battery life..Running stock ota 2.3.3..is it normal for such a battery life?(when my phone is fully charged right after I plugged out the charger,my battery drop to 94% to 96%is it normal too?kindly advice..thanks..
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My battery life increased after upgrading to gingerbread. I can usually go through the day (15 hours) with 3g always on, twitter and fb sync on, with light gaming and surfing of the web, 75% brightness.
My record was 2 days 9 hours with 0% brightness, no 3g, only wifi, no gaming, twitter and fb sync on.
For your percentage problem, you can try draining your battery, then when the phone shuts down, hold the power button to switch it on again. Start up an intensive app like a game to further drain the power. Do this until the phone does not start up (no bootscreen), then plug into the charger and charge overnight. DO NOT turn the phone on during the charge. When you turn on your phone after the overnight charge, it should read 100%
I am not too sure what triggers this, but its likely due to battery memory or something, although this should not be happening for lithium batteries. Maybe its a software fault. Do this every month or so to hit that 100% indicator. It is not advisable to do this all the time as draining the battery completely MAY damage the battery over time. Cheers!
How did you manage to get pass 2days of usage?
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Hey,
I'm also having the same issue. Off the charger, BANG! 96% or so, sometimes more. My phone will be at 90% after like 3 texts. Its only had 5 charges mind you, I know there's a "conditioning" time but still, is this normal? I can almost say a text is a percent...my 3gs had more batt life after 1yr... now that's saying something...haha
I can almost watch it drain with the screen on...like 60 secs is a percent or 2...not cool...
Maybe I can do the "Desire Battery Calibration" procedure after a few more full charges...might make a diff...what do you guys think? I may be jumping the gun here...
Thanks in advance.
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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itandy said:
I remember someone said modern phones are designed not to keep on charging after reaching 100% and resume only after dropping to certain level, maybe 9x%. That could be the reason why I see different percentage left every day I unplug the phone in the morning. But my last Hero always show 100%.
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That sounds right, because it drops from 100% to 96% after a few seconds, and its direct from 100 to 96.
But if you put the charger back it taks a couple of minuts to get from 96% to 99% and about 10 minuts to go from 99% to 100%
As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
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As far as i have noticed, this was the issue with X100 too after 2.1 update-
Once connected to the wall socket, the phone charges to 100% and starts dropping.
it does not charge again unless you reconnect the charger.
till the time it is connected, it will display as 100% but once you remove it drops to how much ever time has been spent since it reached 100%.
why that happens, i really don't know.
Ideally the phone should continue charging if the level is below 100. anyways....
about the battery backup, i think 13-15 hours is quite good for a phone with this display and capabilities.
with 3g, a little gaming, surfing, chatting etc. this should really do.
in fact, post the 2.3.3 update, the battery life has definitely increased.
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So you think that having a 13hrs ++ battery life is good enough?More advice please..thanks..
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I am on a VzW Inc2 w/ Froyo so not sure how applicable any of this is for you guys...but anyway....
My battery life is fantastic. I too see the 100% down to whatever after unplugging - I am pretty sure this is like others have said; once it reaches 100% during charging it stops charging and does not start again until you unplug and it re-plug it in. I know in my case charging from dead to 100% only takes like 3 or 4 hours. So if you are plugging your phone in when you go to bed it is probably hitting 100% after 3-4 hours and then the rest of the night it is draining down...
I have found JuiceDefender Ultimate and JuicePlotter to be huge helps to me in decreasing battery drain (JD) and understanding what uses the battery (JP).
Also just going into settings, About Phone, Battery, Battery use - this helps understand what is using it.
*Note: JuiceDefender Ultimate can create more problems than good if you are not willing to take the time to learn/set it up.
Prior to using JD and JP I would generally make it through the day, sometimes have a bit of power left over. After using these I always make it through the day, and sometimes through 2 days.
But let's not kid anyone - what JD does you CAN do manually...but more than likely wont or will forget. So for anyone that doesnt want to use JD, do you leave your WiFi on all the time, or do you switch it on/off? Leaving it on all the time drains battery. When WiFi is available, do you use it? I have found WiFi on this phone to use a lot less battery than 3G.
Probably my favorite function of JD I have it disable 3G and WiFi when the screen is off (for getting emails, updates, etc... you can set a schedule where it turns it back on during intervals or whatever).
Also I like the WiFi Location setting - you can teach it where you use WiFi and it will automatically turn WiFi on/off based on your location.
Anyway - my guess is if you are having low battery life, either you are using the device a lot more than you think (voice calls use a lot of battery), you have things syncing too often, or you are leaving radios/etc... on all the time that do not need to be on.
I tried to take the charger out at the same time the battery was on 100% and the LCD light went green.
Then the battery stayed at 100% for about 11 minuts and then went down to 99%.
After 3 1/2 houres the battery is at 95%!!!!!!!!
Bagground Data is enabled.
3G is active.
I have mail check every 15 minuts.
Screen brightnes at 40%
Weather update every 1 houre.
I don't use Facebook, Twitter, Stcoks and News.
I don't understand the battery in my IncS...
You guys know that these batteries don't have memory right? So when you charge doesn't matter, your phone just thinks there is that percentage of battery, do a full drain once and then it should back on track. Also, these batteries never get charged to 100%, its a safety precaution or something of that sort. They hover around 94-96% which is why the phone drops down to that area in what seems like a short amount of time. The fact that the phone says 100% when you unplug it is for effect. I used to always think I had battery problems, just stop being so worried about the battery and you'll notice an improvement. Hope this helped.
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Also draining them completely flat, as in device won't power on, is the worst thing you can do to them
It sort of kills off a little of the capacity, every time you do it
So to the bloke that recommended it, no it does more damage than good
Rellikzephyr
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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That's unreal...do you even use the phone?
Rellikzephyr
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jkolner said:
After 17 houres battery is down from 100% to 84%.
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I'm finding turning to GSM only helps massively. I mean, so it should but I was hoping I didn't have to do this all the time, like I had to with my 3GS... And its a pain in the butt having to change it.
Still cant find a widget that will do it for me...not mobile data, ACTUAL WCDMA-GSM and back...
On the side, if anyone knows of one, please tell! haha
Thanks
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What a joke!! Thats impossible!
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I tell you is true, and i don't understand i either!!!
Most of the 17 houres the phone was only in standby and i only read mail twice.
I guess its just a fantastic ROM that Mike1986 has made with no Sense ;-)
I can get a day and a half out of my IncS with heavy use on a pretty regular basis. Set brightness to automatic, switch off unnecessary auto updates, GPS, bluetooth, and keep volume down or off in games. My screen timeout is 1 min (reduce for longer battery life), and I have always on internet switched off. I generally leave my Wi-Fi on a lot by mistake but don't find this to affect things too much really.
You will get 96% a lot after a charge as it is bad for your battery to stay plugged in when it's fully charged, so the s/w on HTC phone switch the charge off for a little while so it runs down a little and back up again. I had Hero before and that did this as well.
juice defender ultimate is excellent in my experience.
i had it set to switch on data every 5mins for 15secs to receive notifications and do updates (i have quite lot syncing - twitter, fb, sky news widgets x2, weather) and i would sometimes have gotten 30 hours out of the phone (ie. i wouldnt have charged it 2 nights in a row sometimes), but always easily 1 full day.
im getting sick of having to use JD though, because i figured something HAD to be wrong as my battery would drain in maybe 5-8 hours without JD which I just dont think is good enough and so could not be how its meant to be.
i then read about some people having problems with cyanogen rom battery drain, and that if you switch off android market notifications, it solves it.
so i tried it, charged my phone to 99% again and im now at 82% after 5 hours 10mins, which means if i keep using the phone at this rate, ill make it 25 hours - which is more than good enough for me. (~and i still have all the same stuff syncing as before, except market notifications~)
also i have wifi set to never sleep, so its always on. (its my ideal that everything that you buy the phone for should be able to be kept on 24/7, eg data, gps etc always on - so i keep them like that. bluetooth i dont use though - if i can make it through the day on a charge with decent use, im happy)
try it.
im calling BS on jkolner btw - pics or it didnt happen

(Q) note charged itself over night ...?!

I was using the phone for about 2.5h with wifi on browsing reading some news and got the battery to 38%. Then I have activated the power saving option and locked the screen and went to bed. Now I just woke up and see that my battery is at41% wow. Did it charged up or what has happened?
An inaccuracy of the battery meter? It defenitely did not charge itself. That's physically and chemically impossible.
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It's weird how it constantly increased from 38-41 it was not just a sudden jump... I got sudden drops in battery after a usual reboot, and but never a slow increase....
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It's weird how it constantly increased from 38-41 it was not just a sudden jump... I got sudden drops in battery after a usual reboot, and but never a slow increase....
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Its normal it happen to me also and to others as i read their post.
xranekx said:
I was using the phone for about 2.5h with wifi on browsing reading some news and got the battery to 38%. Then I have activated the power saving option and locked the screen and went to bed. Now I just woke up and see that my battery is at41% wow. Did it charged up or what has happened?
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Actually yes it does happen.. I really can't pinpoint the reason though.. After heavy usage the battery does drain for a while after the usage and then since no usage some power is restored.. Same like AA batteries.. Example: Use AA batteries on a device till the device switches off.. Then leave the device idle for a while and battery will be usable for sometime though the device had switched off earlier due to complete drain..
I'm not an electronics person. So i dunno how or what makes this happen :silly:

Strange power/battery issue

I have had a few unexpected battery drains. Times where I figured the device would be good but then the battery was dead. Do I started to watch the battery consumption. I noticed sudden huge drops in battery life. Dropping something like from 85% down to 35% instantly.
I have attached a screen shot showing the issue. Notice the straight down line in the middle of the chart of both.
Any thoughts?
New Info... I downloaded Badass Battery Monitor. In reviewing the history the system shows a matching drop in signal at the very same time that the battery suddenly drained. The interesting thing is that I was working an outdoor neighborhood festival all day today... the signal should not have dropped, I litteraly did not move more than a few hundred feet the entire day, and never went into any buildings.
It went from 100-0 while plugged in today... call to at&t... I got to keep it until it hits 30 days or do the exchange via est buy and pay the restocking fee. A bit of crying and complaining and they sent my replacement unit via overnight.
boufa said:
I have had a few unexpected battery drains. Times where I figured the device would be good but then the battery was dead. Do I started to watch the battery consumption. I noticed sudden huge drops in battery life. Dropping something like from 85% down to 35% instantly.
I have attached a screen shot showing the issue. Notice the straight down line in the middle of the chart of both.
Any thoughts?
New Info... I downloaded Badass Battery Monitor. In reviewing the history the system shows a matching drop in signal at the very same time that the battery suddenly drained. The interesting thing is that I was working an outdoor neighborhood festival all day today... the signal should not have dropped, I litteraly did not move more than a few hundred feet the entire day, and never went into any buildings.
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Mine does not have a drop like that, mines drops quickly, but steady at the same time.
What screen capture app are you using?
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Mine does not have a drop like that, mines drops quickly, but steady at the same time.
What screen capture app are you using?
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It was a very poor attempt to use the built in screen cap feature. It is some combination of the power button and the down volume key, but it rarely works for me.
thanks, here is my battary usage
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thanks, here is my battary usage
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Thats what it should look like. I have noticed that some of my issues seems to be triggered by the device locking up on its battery indicator. (at least that is how I can tell). It stays locked at a certain % for a long time, then it will crash. Still too soon, but it seems that when it catches up it over dumps the battery.
A reboot when it is noticed has fixed it a couple times. Still not sure if it is software or hardware.
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Thats what it should look like. I have noticed that some of my issues seems to be triggered by the device locking up on its battery indicator. (at least that is how I can tell). It stays locked at a certain % for a long time, then it will crash. Still too soon, but it seems that when it catches up it over dumps the battery.
A reboot when it is noticed has fixed it a couple times. Still not sure if it is software or hardware.
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I've been using "battery widget" by Elvision for 3 phone's now and haven't had a problem. But seeing the rate yours is recharging tells me that it's not a legit loss of energy; in other words you probably can't charge your phone that far that fast. If a second battery app shows the same issue you may have a short somewhere in the phone and then you should just have it replaced somehow.
Thats better
My replacement device... seems to charge slow, but also seems to discharge slow. It look o.k. Now I just need to watch and make sure it was not an app that I put on the phone that cause the battery issues.
Good screen shots below.

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