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2.21 IPL/SPL observation

Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys

Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?

William Yeung said:
Someone says its also related to the G3/G4 chip (version # 2.21.0001 means G4, .0000 means G3??) I have no clue on what is that though- anyone can provide us some enlightment?
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No, they are just the software version and dont have any relation with the Chip.

Result from JAFWM
Open nk.nbf file with JAFWM v2.2 (Dopod Official Rom)
here is the result.

William Yeung said:
Dear All,
I would like to share a bit more information on what I found regarding 2.21 IPL/SPL behaviour.
1. Now it is impossible to backup the rom from another machine with pre-2.21 ROM and then try to flash it into the machine by SD Card (i.e. use console mode to connect to the pre-2.21 ROM machine, execute r2sd, then push the SD card to the 2.21 machine w/o CID unlock and boot into flash mode (camera button), it will say 'Not allow update' in the status bar)
2. Now it is also impossible to backup the rom from 2.21 machine using console mode (i.e. r2sd), thus I got no way to extract 2.21 IPL/SPL from my machine. Again this is assumed the machine is not CID unlocked. Machine will say 'not enough security level blah blah....'
3. So what I want to know is- If a machine which is pre-CID unlocked, upgraded to ship rom 2.21+
a. is that still possible to dump the firmware out with r2sd?
b. Also will it accept rom flash in SD card dumped out from other pre 2.21 machine?
Hope we could sort out a solution to free all 2.21+ guys
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the anser to your question on point 3.a is yes.done it myself.now reflashing your device with another ones dump it may cause problems because it also flashes back the cid [whatever state it is] and since every device has a unique cid code that is related to the imei it may cause problems like the dreaded DATA CRASH one,but in other hand it could work.u just have to try to find out.if you need a unlocked dump let me know a got one ready to install.

How about the bootloader mode test result? anyone could provide?

Well I think there is a way and may be summitter can tell better.
one use typhoon nbf tools and remove the CID and save the nk.nbf and flash it to device.
secondly dump the rom parts with typho5 and just make a custom ROM with the same IPL/SPL with a new CE ROM...
I hope I am correct

That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.

William Yeung said:
That wont work, you have to try it out yourself. The main issue is if you got a machine comes with 2.21.0001+, then r2sd would not work. This is the essential step for any rom dump operation so far.
Typhoon NBF is even worse because since 2.0 (AKU 2) rom its not able to read by Typhoon NBF.
*faria: Is that mean you can still use r2sd to dump your rom even after your machine upgraded to 2.21+ ROM? Then if there is an O2 Mini S with such config updated, dump rom out, use typho5 to rebuild a new ROM without CID, chance is that we could use that to patch the unit with other rom versions.
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yes you can still use r2sd in any rom above 2xxxx,but i do not use r2sd for my backups/restores, i use [wizBackup] because it bacups to sd and pc without any conversion required unlike r2sd.
i just made a sd backup of rom 2.23 and restore with out any problems.
rebuilding any rom will not work in a machine cidlocked because when we build the roms it requires the cid field to be blank,if it was that easy any modified rom like [sumiters] would do because all of those roms have the cid field blank when they are converted with nbf connverter.
to be clear about the part of the cid lock that every one is trying to unlock is not in the rom ,it is in the machine in a diferent adress [place if you like] itself so until someone cracks the cid area of the new roms there not much you can do.the problem is noone has the tools for the new roms to bypass cid.
the lokiwiz tool patches the cid area of the device only it doe nothing to yor rom.
so if you try to install a patched rom the machine will compare the cid code in the rom with the one in the machine if it does not match it does not install.1 way arround it to buid you own rom and put the machine cid code on the rom ,the it will install .but that means u cannot create a universal rom, it has to be 1 rom per singe machine with matching cid number.
and yes u can use typho5 to decode/incode 2.xxx roms with any problems,i have been using it i my roms without problems.

Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:

raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.

summiter said:
raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.

raskal said:
summiter said:
raskal said:
Wizard is not such a big problem but for the hermes it is even more interesting. Hard times are coming :roll:
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Hi Raskal,
If "Wizard is not such a big problem", why don't you keep with the spirit of xda-dev and share your observations and results on the G4 issues with the board?
There are two major areas where I think you have an opportunity to contribute to the community:
1 - Can you assist in the modification of the nb2nbf tool so that both G3 and G4 bootloaders can be rebuilt into an image?
2 - We need some guidance on CID unlocking 2.xx. What have you found in the BL that has made the usual process ineffective?
I'm assuming that since you are a member here, you're willing to give as much as take like the rest of us. I have a great respect for what you have done with various phones of the years, and appreciate that you are in business. However I hope that while you're here you will contribute to the free flow of information.
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I am reading this forum and i learned a lot from it. This is the reason i donate and will continue to donate as long as this forum is helpfull because the guys are handling this forum simply deserve it, webspace cost money, traffic costs money and they also spend a lot of time for the mainatance of the forum, time is money. This is my contribution sofar.
On other way, i am not a lover of freeware. My devices costs money because i also spend my time developing it, and i also have a company with 30 employees and i am responsable every moth at 30 to pay them their salary and assure them the salary for their next month. Also my partner is dealing with phones, do you not think i would be very sad when i see that our competition unlocking/debranding phones with OUR FREE SOFTWARE ?
All i want to say, i am willing share information, but i am not willing share any information regarding unlocking/debranding since it will affect my own buiness.
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I'm pretty sure that nowhere in my message was there a request for free software.
We'll continue our efforts here as a community to share ideas and create working and free solutions for all.
Quick question - does your ROM collection include any of the custom ROMs created by and for folks here on xda-dev?

well, at least he donates a fair bit to the site... machinagod!! When can we see Lokiwiz 3.x with CID Unlocking!!?

i guess if machinegod and others, did not post is tools and info here,some companys would have a dent in their revenue. and then one would think....
why do i bother?!!!!

hjkl;' why no delete?

Sorry

I posted this for the few people that were awaiting for the Herald kitchen.
So..i know that you must probably hate me till now, but sorry again i have to delay the porting of my Core Kitchen to the Herald.
It has come to my attention that there is still no way of flashing an Terra because there is no RUU and thus no means of flashing. I will see what i can do, meanwhile i got some work and i will leave for about 5 days.
If anybody has any ideas on how to help these people, please put it into action or give me a pm.
Cheers !

you can flash using Aserg's method which is what other cooker's have resorted to!

blackout203 said:
you can flash using Aserg's method which is what other cooker's have resorted to!
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From what i understood ...
Aserg's method only works from ActiveSync . So this means that if you cook a rom with my kitchen and make a mistake and the rom doesn't work then you have a brick. That's why i didn't focused my attention on this. I was waiting for a proper RUU so that people wouldn't brick they're devices.
Hope you understand.

Well hopefully they roll out that new RUU for WM6 before the months end. Would love to do some experimenting with it during my vacation next month.

anichillus said:
From what i understood ...
Aserg's method only works from ActiveSync . So this means that if you cook a rom with my kitchen and make a mistake and the rom doesn't work then you have a brick. That's why i didn't focused my attention on this. I was waiting for a proper RUU so that people wouldn't brick they're devices.
Hope you understand.
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Yes that´s true. And nothing to say sorry - you had enough trouble with your PC.
But this is what I got as away for falshing from bootloader.
The problem is that the singing of the nbh file doesn´t worfk correctly - i guess.
I've been using his tool from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311909
He doesn't really show a method, so what I've been doing is:
1. Using NBHExtract to dump an .nbh that's on the Herald Wiki.
2. I rebuild the .nbh using Dark Simpson's little utility using the information I had luckily written down before I bricked the phone. So I plug in my ROM (4.10.531.3) in the Version, HERA110 in Device ID. The only other thing is that I'm not sure about the CID.
3. Place the new .nbh file in a folder with an updater (the ROM Update Utility that comes with the ROMs from the Herald Wiki).
4. Get the phone into Bootloader mode, start the updater.
In this way I've got rid of the Invalid Device ID error (error 243 or something?) and now it goes to 3% and tells me that the image file is corrupt.
I'm very new at this so maybe you can see a flaw in what I'm doing, or maybe with your knowledge we can figure this out. I was *almost* to the point of trying to cook using a couple links you've posted (XIP, dumps, etc) and then put it all together in a signed .nbh, but Rapidshare was holding me back... making me wait 80 minutes between downloads -_-
Anyway... I've only been trying to update the OS.nb portion since I believe I only screwed up my OS, not anything else. I can still get into the bootloader, my IPL/SPL still reads 4.xxxxxx, and by "brick" I mean that the phone just hangs on bootup at the T-Mobile splash screen. Correct? Incorrect?
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Perhaps we can work with it.

It is not a huge problem for HTC branded devices as there is a RUU to flash with if everything goes wrong. It's just a problem for our T-Mobile Wing and O2 Terra cousins (if they brick their devices). But it's nice to see some proper chefs taking an interest, never liked the pdaviet ROMS ever since they used a whole bunch of Faria's stuff without asking.

im running pdaviet now, but im hoping to see something other soon, its not bad though, just a bit slow..lots of "lagging" on the today plugin, I used the herald dump from tupisdin earlier, and installed my fav progs on that...was pretty dam fast on my phone...only problem was that it occupied more space on the main memory when stuff was not cooked into the rom itself...
trying to learn about cooking myself, not so easy as a thought
But I guess im lucky to have a unbranded htc p4350, If i brick, I just install the official Ruu from HTC
(btw, I DO use Vista for flashing, just changed the usb driver that WMDC uses to connect via USB to the old activesync 4.5 USB driver...)

CDMA SLP by CMONEX

Hello, a few days ago CMONEX give me the SPL for CDMA Shift, she guide me to installed on my CDMA Shift and everything works fine, if I run "ecshift –bl" the WinMobile shows the colours bars and says "SPL-0.14.OliNex"
I couldn’t contact CMONEX again, we couldn't continue with the tests, I guess she’s busy
Now, what’s next? I want to cook a new ROM, but I’m not sure if I’m going well
I followed these posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422914
I already dump the CDMA ROM and cooked a new one using the Shiftkitchen
Before flashing the ROM I want to know how to restore the factory version of the ROM for Snapvue, I deleted the restore partition (to have more space) and created an USB flash drive
Is it possible to restore snapvue using this USB restore drive?
Should I use the CustomRUU.exe to flash the cooked ROM?
Any help for creating the first Shift’s CDMA ROM will be very appreciated
Regards

Hello, a few days ago CMONEX give me the SPL for CDMA Shift, she guide me to installed on my CDMA Shift and everything works fine, if I run "ecshift –bl" the WinMobile shows the colours bars and says "SPL-0.14.OliNex"
I couldn’t contact CMONEX again, we couldn't continue with the tests, I guess she’s busy
Now, what’s next? I want to cook a new ROM, but I’m not sure if I’m going well
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As u said u have done your custom ROM already if you HARD SPL'ed you can flash it using CustomRUU.exe
I followed these posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422914
I already dump the CDMA ROM and cooked a new one using the Shiftkitchen
Before flashing the ROM I want to know how to restore the factory version of the ROM for Snapvue, I deleted the restore partition (to have more space) and created an USB flash drive
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Restore Partition has nothing to do with You ROM side !
You can cook a "default" ROM from your Part01-04.raw's
Is it possible to restore snapvue using this USB restore drive?
Should I use the CustomRUU.exe to flash the cooked ROM?
Any help for creating the first Shift’s CDMA ROM will be very appreciated
Regards
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Snapvue again has nothing to do with the recovery Partition this is just for your VISTA.
So to get u updated should wait for cmonex but as you have an mfg bootloader (colored screen) you should be able to bump a rom to your shift !
Greets

thanks for your answers, I am in contact with cmonex, hopefully soon we'll have a CDMA ROM
regards

would u please upload the HardSPL for CDMA Shift??

youzii said:
would u please upload the HardSPL for CDMA Shift??
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Would love to have the Hard SPL for CDMA
Also can anyone confirm which rom can be used for a CDMA Shift ?

Eight years later........
Hi, I've lurked this graveyard since picking up a clio110. I appreciated all of the resources, information, and most of all; The Search Tool.
Since then, I acquired a clio200. I didn't realize the difference and I've bricked the WinMo board. I can still access bootloader but it seems I need a file. The file was shared by cmonex to a few members in need. The file name is: "RUU_ATLA_HTC_SPCS_1.14.651.1_0.14_2.30.00_1.33_PRL60711_SHIP_MO_Disable_PPST.exe"
I've seen mentioned in a few threads but cannot find it on the Google Drives nor the internet at large. Would a kind soul happen to have this file and be able to share it? I'm really bummed because it affects the audio hardware on the PC side since the audio components are on the WinMo board. You generousity can bring generousity. There are probably others out there that need the file and have given up. I really like the device and would really like to be able to make it work again. Please.

Snap vue hard reset
Ive also just obtained a htc shift, but whilst thevpreviuis own had restored the vista side ok. The snapvue side doesnt work as they have forgotten the password. There used to be tools to reset this but unsurprisingly the links are dead. If any one could make them available it woukd be a lifesaver
Thanks in advance

Useless_Alias said:
Hi, I've lurked this graveyard since picking up a clio110. I appreciated all of the resources, information, and most of all; The Search Tool.
Since then, I acquired a clio200. I didn't realize the difference and I've bricked the WinMo board. I can still access bootloader but it seems I need a file. The file was shared by cmonex to a few members in need. The file name is: "RUU_ATLA_HTC_SPCS_1.14.651.1_0.14_2.30.00_1.33_PRL60711_SHIP_MO_Disable_PPST.exe"
I've seen mentioned in a few threads but cannot find it on the Google Drives nor the internet at large. Would a kind soul happen to have this file and be able to share it? I'm really bummed because it affects the audio hardware on the PC side since the audio components are on the WinMo board. You generousity can bring generousity. There are probably others out there that need the file and have given up. I really like the device and would really like to be able to make it work again. Please.
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Sorry, I checked my HTC Shift archived files and I don't have this RUU_ATLA_HTC_SPCS_1.14.651.1_0.14_2.30.00_1.33_PRL60711_SHIP_MO_Disable_PPST.exe file that you are after.

Flanimal said:
Sorry, I checked my HTC Shift archived files and I don't have this RUU_ATLA_HTC_SPCS_1.14.651.1_0.14_2.30.00_1.33_PRL60711_SHIP_MO_Disable_PPST.exe file that you are after.
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Appreciate the dig. I still have that board if that file ever surfaces. Maybe one day. I have a couple other GSM based units that I still enjoy to this day!

What's the best OS for a Rogers HTC Dream?

Hi guys,
I've been searching and searching, but a lot of the posts are dated June or July and I'm basically hoping to get the latest information.
I'll start with the details:
Rogers Branded HTC Dream
Recovery: CyanogenMod v1.2 + JF
Dream PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBoot: 1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
Radio: 3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
FW Version: 1.5
Baseband Version: 62.52S.20.18U_3.22.20.17
Kernel Version: 2.6.27-9af60ed4
[email protected]
Build No.: 1.85.631.5 146733 CL#33863 release-keys
Rooted (I think/hope!)
My Questions:
1- What is the best OS out there right now? (I know this depends on the user, but there must be ones that are more popular than others and ones that should be avoided). I'm mainly looking for something that would address the following:
* a proper voice dial ... the one that came with the phone is half assed ... recognition is great, but it's not exactly hands-free!!
* multi-touch ... I hate the iPhone, but you gotta agree that's one kickass feature
* SMS time stamp issue ... after 2 weeks it still confuses the hell outa me for the first few seconds
* My inner geek would like a good linux/unix shell too ... don't ask why
2- I can't get anything later than CyanogenMod 1.2, it won't get past the boot splash ... re-flashing to the 1.2 works ... any ideas?
3- All the links to the 'latest radio' point to a 2.x version, but I have 3.x ... doesn't that mean I have a newer version?
4- I flashed Splash1 and Splash2 to 2 different PNG images, but on boot I get what seems to be the default splash screen, 3 androids on skateboards (It used to be the Rogers logo). What are the specs on the splash image? and where do each of these splash screens come up?
5- How do I know if my phone is actually rooted? I type 'adb root' and I get 'adb is already running as root' ... is that enough?
6- if I type 'adb shell' and then 'su' the command is not found ... are these *nix commands only available in custom roms?
If you're about to start flaming, please take it elsewhere. I'm frustrated, overwhelmed, and not exactly satisfied with my search results because many posts are old and in some cases conflicting. Forums are where (the more experienced) people help other people.
If I've missed out any details/questions, I'll update my post. I will also update the first post with the answers immediately after the questions, is possible in a different color (it's easier for new people to follow up and get answers).
Thanks a lot for your time (I'm sure you've had stupid n00bish questions too, before you became 1337 ).

Next time search more to post the thread in the good place

ANDROID is the BEST OS for ROGERS HTC DREAM. actually its the only one. an OS is sumthign like android,windows mobile,webOS,symbian,etc.
just letting u know what the definition of OS is. or more like examples

My Questions:
1- What is the best OS out there right now? (I know this depends on the user, but there must be ones that are more popular than others and ones that should be avoided). I'm mainly looking for something that would address the following:
* a proper voice dial ... the one that came with the phone is half assed ... recognition is great, but it's not exactly hands-free!!
* multi-touch ... I hate the iPhone, but you gotta agree that's one kickass feature
* SMS time stamp issue ... after 2 weeks it still confuses the hell outa me for the first few seconds
* My inner geek would like a good linux/unix shell too ... don't ask why
2- I can't get anything later than CyanogenMod 1.2, it won't get past the boot splash ... re-flashing to the 1.2 works ... any ideas?
3- All the links to the 'latest radio' point to a 2.x version, but I have 3.x ... doesn't that mean I have a newer version?
4- I flashed Splash1 and Splash2 to 2 different PNG images, but on boot I get what seems to be the default splash screen, 3 androids on skateboards (It used to be the Rogers logo). What are the specs on the splash image? and where do each of these splash screens come up?
5- How do I know if my phone is actually rooted? I type 'adb root' and I get 'adb is already running as root' ... is that enough?
6- if I type 'adb shell' and then 'su' the command is not found ... are these *nix commands only available in custom roms?
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1- You can't run any OS other than android. We have different builds/ROMs, some based on the google source code, others are HTC builds.
Voice dial is an app issue, maybe there's one on the market
Some ROMs have multi-touch in the browser, HTC Hero builds also have it in the gallery app.
No idea about the time stamp issue :-S
There's several terminal emulators in the market.
3- I believe Rogers Dreams use a different radio image, don't flash anything without some confirmation that it's for the rogers dream.
4- Splash images (you're flashing via fastboot, right?) need to be converted to a raw format, not .png's
5- Grab a terminal emulator from the market, type 'su' and if it works the $ will turn to a #

Thanks Adrian.
@imfloflo: Next time, if you have nothing useful to say, don't say anything at all.
@brian: I meant what is the best ROM out there. I'm quite familiar with the definition of OS and am a software engineer, I thought it would be clear enough that I'm not trying to Install Windows XP on my device.
Thank you Adrian for actually ANSWERING questions.
I've looked at the source for the voice dial app and it doesn't seem to be too much work to fix it (in fact the code to just execute the action if only one match is found is already there, but commented out!!), but I haven't been able to flash my build onto the device ... I can't get past the boot splash.
About the radio, yes I've heard that too and that's why I've been so reluctant to flash anything out in the forums on the device ... they all seem to stress that you need the specific radio image.
So the splash images have to be raw, I can do that, what about bit depth? 8 bit per color? is that RGB or RGBA?
su says permission denied ... so I've probably missed some of steps in the rooting instructions
Thanks again for the answers

brian_v3ntura said:
ANDROID is the BEST OS for ROGERS HTC DREAM. actually its the only one. an OS is sumthign like android,windows mobile,webOS,symbian,etc.
just letting u know what the definition of OS is. or more like examples
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You beat me to the punchline.

copolii said:
@imfloflo: Next time, if you have nothing useful to say, don't say anything at all.
@brian: I meant what is the best ROM out there. I'm quite familiar with the definition of OS and am a software engineer, I thought it would be clear enough that I'm not trying to Install Windows XP on my device.
Thank you Adrian for actually ANSWERING questions.
I've looked at the source for the voice dial app and it doesn't seem to be too much work to fix it (in fact the code to just execute the action if only one match is found is already there, but commented out!!), but I haven't been able to flash my build onto the device ... I can't get past the boot splash.
About the radio, yes I've heard that too and that's why I've been so reluctant to flash anything out in the forums on the device ... they all seem to stress that you need the specific radio image.
So the splash images have to be raw, I can do that, what about bit depth? 8 bit per color? is that RGB or RGBA?
su says permission denied ... so I've probably missed some of steps in the rooting instructions
Thanks again for the answers
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Damn, I guess you don't have root, not really sure what to suggest as I'm not familiar with the rogers rooting process. Just start again I guess?
Here's a how-to for the splash images. I've never done it, for the simple reason that if ever I brick my phone I can send it back to HTC and claim an OTA update bricked it. They're hardly going to believe me if my splash image says "I CAN HAZ ROOT, LOLZ" ;-)
I just realized I forgot something pretty important regarding rogers dream, I don't think you can flash ROMs at the moment. You can get root, and there are themes floating about, but I don't think anyone's managed to successfully flash a new ROM. Sorry if I got your hopes up back there.

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Just start again I guess?
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Sorry if I got your hopes up back there.
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Yeah, I'll give the rooting another shot.
I almost knew it may be impossible (or simply too much of a hassle to do), but I'll call them and ask how to install my own custom flashes on it ... it's open source after all ... They should either not carry an open source product or if they do, do it the 'open source' way
Cheers

you can flash ROM's very easily...im not a technical expert so i cant really help you that much...but check dream android development...it has all the android ROM's...you have to reroot and theres stickys that should help a lot with some of your questions atleast...

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you can flash ROM's very easily...im not a technical expert so i cant really help you that much...but check dream android development...it has all the android ROM's...you have to reroot and theres stickys that should help a lot with some of your questions atleast...
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It's not the actual flashing ... I've read (as Adrian also confirmed above) that you can only root a Roger's Android for now.
I've already built the source and even flashed it to the device, but it just sat on the boot splash screen

Copolii, when you say, "call them", are you talking about Rogers? There's no way they're going to help you. Rooting voids the warranty. Currently there are a couple of threads floating about where people are trying to talk to Rogers and I believe get the source for for the Rogers branded Android OS, or something else which Rogers states is open source but has never actually released the code. They haven't succeeded yet due to Rogers claiming it's HTC's problem and what-not. If you phone them, they'll only tell you that you should have bought an Android Dev Phone 1 (ADP1).

It works
for those who care, I was able to put a few roms on the device and they all seemed to work. In fact as soon as I rebooted I had an incoming call
The ROM that I ended up keeping (at least for now) was Soulife's Rogers Remix v2.9.2 (Aug 5, 2009).
It has only been a few hours, but so far so good
Thanks to those who helped
I called rogers about getting access to their Android source (lol ... I wasn't gonna ask them for rooting help, that'd be too n00bish ... even for moi) ... they've been rather useless.
I noticed HTC had a support number too, they were a lot helpful and the guy even put my name down as a possible beta tester and said he'd get back to me on the Android source request. There's another thread here about it ... it has been going on since July I think and no progress.

copolii said:
@imfloflo: Next time, if you have nothing useful to say, don't say anything at all.
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dude thats one of the site mods. u better apologize or they might boot ur asss!

help
because as I say my dream will not start I have installed the rc29 and if I am not confusing the phone stays on the screen "t Movile g1" I go to so fastboot or camera and pressing home and hang or crash or someone you know has gone how can I fix this

rafarico77 said:
because as I say my dream will not start I have installed the rc29 and if I am not confusing the phone stays on the screen "t Movile g1" I go to so fastboot or camera and pressing home and hang or crash or someone you know has gone how can I fix this
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not the way your talking. I can't understand what the heck your trying to say
make it readable if you want help

Sorry I'm not Spanish and English

my problem is that my phone does not turn into the screen cellphone and t does not start and does not in any way at all fastboot

placing android on the nand flash

i saw this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625200 and they figured out how to get it working. im new to the x1 and isntead of searching everything it would be easier just to ask
1. are there devs still working on the x1 and android?
2. is it possible to run android as a primary..is there a chance?
thanks. mods can delete after

forget it! it will never be any android rom ... All devs bought X10

ilgreco112 said:
forget it! it will never be any android rom ... All devs bought X10
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that sucks..from reading a few threads it looked like it was going somewhere

Come on people, let's have hope. I think that there will be an android rom soon.

deflex_ said:
Come on people, let's have hope. I think that there will be an android rom soon.
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I agree, also, how does it matter if its a ROM...what matters is that the phone heating/battery eating issue and Wifi...
In my case, i want the GPRS to be used for the weather..but that too isnt happening...i can use GPRS in the internet browser, but NOT in the weather update and Marketplace and app store....is there a way i can get this to work..

My understanding is that we cannot currently boot from NAND as there is no code to start the LCD panel, thus the need to start with HaRET.
A quick look in the the Blackstone forum suggests they won't do it until all functions (gps camera etc) are fully working.

in current state there is no point to run droid as primary system. battery runs out in few hours and functionality lefts much to be desired. do not let excitement to get you, first impression maybe good but whole thing is not so usable just jet. play whit it some days and you see it yourself.

well,camera and gps in android cannot work under most htc devices.so,if just for fun,these are not big problems.as for the heat,if in nand,it may not as hot as it is when all needed have to be found in sdcard,and probably faster.i think what is most important is that the chefs have had x10 and dont pay much attention to xperiod.

It seems that there is a WMKernel that is only 5MB large,If it works,Android may work in ROM,I ever tried to place and run it in rom,and finally failed because there will be a img file that contains files of Android will be storaged,a file about 256 MB ,For Orginall rom,The ROM space if not enough
howerver,I'll have hope about it

nerfg002 said:
It seems that there is a WMKernel that is only 5MB large,If it works,Android may work in ROM,I ever tried to place and run it in rom,and finally failed because there will be a img file that contains files of Android will be storaged,a file about 256 MB ,For Orginall rom,The ROM space if not enough
howerver,I'll have hope about it
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so basically itll load the windows kernel (to recognize all the hardware) and then straight away get into the android kernel THROUGH wm kernel without installing the full wm OS?
that seems almost perfect because we wouldnt have to rely on the SD card as much..as long as we can have a stable android build that doesnt destroy the battery

I think putting android on flash is real ROM and nothing else.
I can't see point in having ROM that will just run haret from SD card. Then i rather just have WinMobile and launch haret manually.