I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?
First of all be sure that you haven't flashed a G4 ROM in a G3 device (or vice-versa) which would have made it a brick.
In case you haven't screwed up the bootloaders then look for the battery jump start thread that teaches how to revive a dead battery
good luck
ianestradalives said:
I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?
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First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC
i've the same problem!!! i leave the phone attached the whole night to the charger...but it was in bootmode, so it doesn't charge!!! it hasn't the power to flash my phone...when it arrives to the 85% (when the phone write into the flash memory) it reboots.....what must i do? i tried to jump start...with a 12v adapter...but nothing....
It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.
i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......
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i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......
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No need to buy a battery i say you use a External Battery Charger. Because even buying it would be cheaper then the battery itself and would help you in future too. I hope i helped. TC
Thanks
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First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!
No Problem but now remember if you find ppl with same problem (on the forum) dont forget to guide them to this Thread. And no need for the thanks. TC
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It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!
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@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?
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@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?
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Dude, sorry to disappoint you, but his advice was correct. My phone is now up and running, and it has NBD 9.2. The advice he has given is correct. It works.
Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?
That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash
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Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?
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In bootloader screen. If you were flashing a rom and it failed, you usually end up in the tri-color (aka "Bootloader") screen. Do what haseeb said (like I did) and plug your wizard to a wall charger and wait for a few minutes. When I plugged mine, it immediately lit up. Good hunting!
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That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash
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Nope. I'm sure the battery was drained. The other night, my phone was in the bootloader screen THE WHOLE NIGHT. And yesterday, I tried reflashing, but it won't start anymore because of - obviously - no battery power.
IF you don't believe me, fail a flash and drain the battery. Then plug it into the wall. It really works.
scousemartin
YUP! thats very true.
The question here is 'How did he charge in Bootloaders with a wall charger',it has to have a working OS on it to start the charging circuit,which isn't present while in Bootloaders.
Flashing is a separate issue.
it will light up as it has power but it WONT CHARGE IT. You were LUCKY that's all and you had power in your battery. You just never realised it. If you want to prove us wrong let the battery go low and then try your revival attempt again. I guarantee you will be buying another battery or charging it somewhere else
also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now
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also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now
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It did get sorted. But I am really sure about the battery thing. I guess this is an anomaly. Besides, the XDA is different from a Wizard.
lol the xda mini-s is exactly the same device a 8125 is, they re both wizards
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I've done a fairly comprehensive search here to try to solve this problem but not one post I've found expresses the exact characteristics of my problem AND contains a solution that has worked. I.E. please don't flame me as if a were some lazy idiot. Thank you.
I have a G4 8125 and was able to flash the stock 2.24.001 IPL/SPL to 2.25.001 before I knew that was bad. Applying flawed logic like "I stuck my head in the lion's mouth once and didn't die, lemme try that again!" I thought that the procedure I went through before would work as well. I thought wrong.
I flashed with a ROM that had the 2.26.001 IPL/SPL (I think) and only one of them appeared to "take" upon the first reboot after an apparently successful flash. That is, the boot screen showed only IPL and not SPL. I though, OK, I sometimes see that my GSM version is missing too. No big deal.
Upon the next reboot, the device is bricked. I mean it won't even turn on. I had well over half battery when I did this and now I don't even get a amber charging LED to light up when I plug it in to charge it. I've tried the hardware cold boot (hold comm and voice buttons then soft reset). No dice. I'm afraid that one of the posts I read might explain it -- if the bootloader is updated somehow it "loses" the power button.
My question is this -- is there anyway I can jump start this thing? I've seen some posts about using a 9v battery and others about using an image of a good ROM on an SD card, etc. Can anyone give any feedback here, all in the same place, about whether any of these have worked for you if the phone would not turn on.
Thanks!
same problem here plz help !
I had kind of a similar problem where the phone would not turn on. The only thing I could think of was the phone somehow self discharged the battery to such a low state that the USB charger would/could not charge it. Last ditch effort and not knowing what was going on I pluged it in using the wall charger and after a day it did turn on. You just cant assume the battery is good just because it was.
Thanks for the help. I'll try the wall charger thing out of pure desperation. BTW if any of you guru's out there want to chime in I promise to post a "bricked" FAQ. I think it's sorely needed. Like I said, I did a thorough search of this forum and there are far more questions than answers.
My first question -- how the hell does the ROM get loaded in the first place? That is, obviously the Wizard contains EPROM or flash or whatever -- something non-volatile -- does anyone know how it gets on the device at the factory? Is it burned into the chip before it gets installed on the device or is it somehow flashed later? My guess it that it gets burned by the carrier and if so I'll bet it's not a bunch of lab monkeys with USB cables. Is there a way to completely reload the Wizard from, say, a SIM card? I mean the bootloader too...
Well I gave up and ordered a replacement from Cingular. They were pretty nice about it. Should be here Friday. Next step: in depth research into bootloaders and ROM backups before the next try at flashing my new 8125. By the time I get this figured out the 8525 will be out and I'll have to switch to that
Phone is here. Swapped out the SIM battery and cover. Still won't turn on. Maybe it's the battery?
Most probably it is the battery. Have you tried direct-charging? Here's a procedure I sent to someone else a while ago:
Here's one trick I've used with my boss PDA which did the same thing, the battery drained and it would not recharge with the stock charger.
You'll need to take out the Wizard's battery.
1. Take a DC adapter that puts out 5-6 VDC.
2. Make a note where the positive and negative terminals are. Usually the center/tip is positive and the barrel/ring is negative but this is not a defacto standard. Check the adapter casing to be sure. DO NOT USE AC OR MORE THAN 6 VOLTS! THE BATTERY PACK COULD BE DAMAGED!
3. Attach a wire to the adapter's positive and another wire to the negative. How you hook it up is left to your imagination
4. Now, with the negative wire coming from the adapter touch the negative terminal on the battery. Touch the positive battery terminal with the positive wire. The battery polarity is printed on the label.
5. Charge the battery like this for 15-30 seconds.
6. Now plug the battery back into the phone and attach the charger.
The battery should start charging now. If it doesn't, it means it is deeply discharged and you'll have to repeat the procedure, this time for 30 seconds tops. Again, remember by doing this procedure you're bypassing the charging/conditioning circuits and the battery could be damaged!
Good luck!
I'll be damned...
I used a 9v battery and a twist tie from a bread bag. Three 15 sec charges later, Windows Vista RC1 recognizes the device on USB, loads the driver and starts charging it. I can't resist booting it up -- bonus 2.25.11.1 OS, 2.25.11 GSM and 2.25 IPL/SPL. It's not a G4!
hi to all!
I am suffering the same trouble described few post below...
After an upgrading rom My Qteck 9100 don´t turn on.
I´ve tried charging battery in a cradle during all night, change for another charged battery (from another pda) and it's impossible to turn on.
Anybody have a suggestion or trip?
Many thanks
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Didn't thought of the 9v and the twist tie... Glad to know your phone is on its way to recovery!
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I used a 9v battery and a twist tie from a bread bag. Three 15 sec charges later, Windows Vista RC1 recognizes the device on USB, loads the driver and starts charging it. I can't resist booting it up -- bonus 2.25.11.1 OS, 2.25.11 GSM and 2.25 IPL/SPL. It's not a G4!
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Does anybody can explain the "how to" using 9v battery?
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Guess what baarod did was touching his phone battery with the 9v battery negative contact (the one that looks like a little crown) and used a bare twist tie from the 9v positive to the battery positive. He repeated this 3 times for 15 seconds each time.
I have an HT that suffers from the same problem, if I let its battery discharge completely the desktop charger will not activate unless I take the battery off the radio and charge it alone for a few seconds.
LiIon batteries do not like to be discharged completely.
Good luck!
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Does anybody can explain the "how to" using 9v battery?
Thanks
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Thank God there's others... not I don't feel so dumb
8125 from Cingular with a G4 chipset. I'm going to go get a 9 volt right now and I'll post again if that little battery blurb works...if not I'll post it while crying and potentialy electrocute myself... (yeah right... more like just short it out forcing me to buy another...but hell I just bricked a $700 phone, what another $60 at cosco huh? :shock: :shock: :twisted: :twisted: :mrgreen: )
One little thing, for a G4 chipset the flashing procedure is different!
You need a firmware without IPL/SPL. Check the forums for the correct firmware to use!
If in doubt, flash the official firmware from Cingular and take notes...
Good luck!
I'm laughing because if I don't, I'm gonna scream
Okay, good advice yellowdragon, except that it's Cingular we're talking about here. Not only did they have absolutely no clue what I was referring to when I referenced the G3 vs G4 chipsets, but the only rom they have posted for firmware upgrades, is the G3 chipset, which of course kills a G4 phone, even though they're sending out G4 phones to the general public to begin with. At work now trying to find the DC adapter with the right specs to try the 9v bypass thing.
Wish me luck people... and if anyone can find Risidoro... I'd love to chat with him... or to see if he has any handy advise on how to fix all this...
peace
... okay it's not working. Tried the 9v battery idea, and nothing. tried with the 9v like 4 times.... each 15 seconds... i get the feeling that the answer is more obvious than it may appear... like it's DEAD! Unless perhaps I read the above wrong and should have done 2 15second charge sessions for the 2nd time of zappint it, each time accumulating more charge time each time I 'jump it". I'm gonna try that...
the battery won't explode... will it?
hope not
I also upgraded a G4 with a G3 IPL ;/ I know it's a stupid mistake, but I was sure that I'm upgrading with G4. I should have used a rom without IPL/SPL ;(
Wizard worked first time after rom upgrading... everything is because power button doesn't work I think. So is there a way to turn a Wizard on without pressing power button?
I don't believe in 9V battery trick... why should it work? My battery was fully charged before upgrading. I'm afraid that I'll destroy my Wizard's battery too :/
If anybody can help, plz help!
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Folks,
Please note that I got a replacement 8125 from Cingular since I could not get my device to power on either. Upon receipt of said device I installed my SIM card, battery and battery cover only to find that the NEW device would STILL not power on. Now THATS a BRICK! ;-)
What I noticed is that when I connected the device to the USB cable, the charging light (right-handside of the earpiece, normally amber when charging) did not come on. I then tried the AC adapter to no avail. I then scoured the forum here and found the 9v trick.
Don't feel bad people -- I got all that working again and tried to flash the new AKU 3.2 ROM from ells. Now I'm stuck at the ROM 2.26 bootloader again :-( I'm just a ROM junkie, no matter how much trouble I get into I gotta go back to the juice!
I'll post how this recovery turns out. If we can keep this thread alive and I keep getting Cingular to send new phones then we might be able to cover every conceivable brick scenario... LOL
Risidoro's 2.26 seems to be flashing my Wizard right now. It's sitting at that pivotal ~96-98% point. Fingernails: chew, chew.
I hope this is not like last time where the updater finished but the Wizard was still at 99%!
Yay! It worked!!!
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Folks,
I'll post how this recovery turns out. If we can keep this thread alive and I keep getting Cingular to send new phones then we might be able to cover every conceivable brick scenario... LOL[/QU
Hi Baarod, can you post wich is the method of the 9v battery trick?
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I was attempting to do a new upgrade to WM6 after running the stock WM5 for about a day, and during the flash process the RUU utility crashed on my business laptop (The memory location could not be "written"). Ever since then, my phone boots up in the three colored bar RUU mode.
After reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294107, I felt that all was not lost and it looked like I could just simply reflash while it was in RUU mode. The problem now is that whenever I try to flash it, no matter what rom (stock Cingular rom, T-Mo 2.26, different WM6 roms, etc.) the phone reboots anywhere between 1 & 4% through during the flashing process.
I don't know what the battery % is anymore (since I can't boot directly), but I know it was around 80% when I originally started. I tried plugging the phone into the charger (not USB to PC) and the phone went into RUU mode on there as well. Is there a way to charge the battery while in RUU mode?
Are there any other ideas? I don't really know anyone with a Wizard so I don't know if I can swap a battery with someone else to give that a shot. Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason
You could cut open a usb cable and manually charge your battery. I have done that before by taping the wire leads to the battery and letting it charge for an hour or so.
Which wires would go to which leads on the battery?
Try to shut down and plug your wiza into the USB. Take out your battery and plug it in prior doing this...It happened to me once..sorry I don't remember exactly how I fixed it...but I remember trying more ways.
Do you mean shutting down the phone or the computer?
I have tried pretty much any combination that I can think of. I finally hit 50% without the "communication failure" from occurring. When it happens, the USB "Ding-Ding" noise happens indicating that it has been unplugged, and when the phone boots up again the noise happens again showing reconnection.
Jason
Ugghhhh I'm so pissed at the phone I just want to smash it lol I would never do that. I was even ready to try to exchange it under warrantee but I was trying some different flashes to make sure my battery troubles were h/w and not s/w first :-/ It is in the fridge now cooling off while I pretend that it is going to help...
Jason
myrandex said:
Ugghhhh I'm so pissed at the phone I just want to smash it lol I would never do that. I was even ready to try to exchange it under warrantee but I was trying some different flashes to make sure my battery troubles were h/w and not s/w first :-/ It is in the fridge now cooling off while I pretend that it is going to help...
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WHAT ? You put your Wizard in the fridge ? Man, that's insane !
I hope you're joking if not, get it out of there.
First make sure that you have the battery charged, and only then move to the next phase (flashing)
After it's charged, use a ROM that you know for sure it works !
This is easy, you're making it hard.
P.S. I meant take the battery out of the Wizard, then put it back and only then connect to PC through USB to charge it.
lol I was teasing but in computers I have used the freezer trick on hard drives that didn't like behaving
Yea I have tried like a 100 times tonight with no luck though. I have to resist physically damaging it to try to do the battery theory tomorrow when hopefully I can convince some stranger @ work to let me swap batteries with him for an "experiment"
Jason
I would suggest maybe trying a different computer to flash from or at least a different USB port, but since you said that you're using a laptop that may not be an option. If you do have a second USB port though try connecting the sync cable to it. From what you've described so far, you should be up and going again already by now.
Sounds like your battery level is low. Plug your phone into a wall charger, don't worry whats on the screen and let it charge for a while.
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Sounds like your battery level is low. Plug your phone into a wall charger, don't worry whats on the screen and let it charge for a while.
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I hear that sheet! been there done that. 2yrs ago with my blue angel, and just a few months ago with the wizard. it works (if the battery% being to low is the problem)
Good so it still sounds like it will chare in RUU mode? I am leaving it in that state right now for a couple of hours to see if it helps.
Jason
It is rebooting like once per second now pretty continuously. I don't think it is getting much of a charge :-/
I still think it is your battery. I had the same problem, I let the battery charge overnight. I don't know how long it takes to charge when the phone is in that state but it might not charge as fast when it is.
You have to use a wall charger and some people suggest a cradle charger but I used my wall charger.
Also if the battery gets to low it won't charge. I don't think that is your problem but if it is you would need to jump start or get a bit of charge on it so it will charge. There is a thread about doing this using a 9V battery.
Good luck.
Well I tracked down someone with a 8125 today and convinced him to let me borrow his battery for a bit, and the flash took just fine. Now I'm back to running stock Cingular WM5 :-/ I think I will let it run like this for a couple of days before I get adventurous again, and if the battery flakes up at all, warranty exchange since the s/w is stock now
Glad to hear you got it going.
Not to highjack the thread but i seem to have a similar problem.
I can sync my 8525 with the computer, but when i start the ruuwrapper and it starts to sync, it shows i have a connection problem.
Like regularly, i can like remove and add files and what not, but just when trying to flash it with a new rom, it disconnects on its own.
Error (260)
Can someone shed some light.
What the heck is going on?
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the ROM, because it did this with the factory ROM, Manila 2d and now WM6.5.
I turned the phone off, unplugged it, removed the battery. I put the battery back in, replace the cover and press the power button. Nothing happens. I plug the phone back in to the wall charger and put power, it turns on....for about 3 seconds then reboots and it would seem that it will do this for as long as I let it go. If I unplug the phone while this is going on, it will die.
The last time this happened, it took it about a day and a half to sort itself out. It almost seems like its a battery issue.
Any thoughts or ideas?
UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
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UPDATE!
I took the sim card out of the phone for a few seconds and the phone seems to be working now.... But its been up and running for about 20 minute now with no sings of acting up.
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mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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mine started doing that today. went to use the camera and it reset then when it came back on it said battery was drained(this happened around 1pm and i always get a full day out of battery) and reset. have it on a charge right now but will not turn on. took out battery and put it back in with no luck. i will try to fully charge battery and take out sim. if all else fails i will try to hard reset. thanks
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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tried to charge the pda all night the light stayed orange and never turned green indicating full charge. tried hard reset and when it goes in to prepare rom it shuts off like dead battery. when i plug in the pda to charge battery and then turn on the phone it freezes on splash screen. if i turn on phone then plug in to charge it acts like i havn't pluged in charger. is it the pda or battery?
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I am not 100% sure on this, but to me it sounds like the battery.. and that is a MUICH cheaper option to test out... unfortunatly you ahveto wait for shippng typicalyl unless you have a friend who has the same phone.. I got 2 backups and a stand alone charger now... The other option could be your USB port... I have not heard this specific problem with them.... but I am a PC tech and have seen very simmilar problems with laptops... Usually the first think to for is the power port... Just like out phone, if the device is not on a flat surface and such when it is plugging it, it tweaks the port and it eventualyl breaks... on laptops it is not uncommon that when plugged in, the LEF wil light up saying it is getting power to charge, but it enver charges the battery, and even sometimes can;t power up the full system.. .It sort of sounds like this is what you phone is doing as well.. .If that is the problem the stand alone charger would work (my son broke off his usb all together and now syncs via bluetooth and jsut changes batteries.. he has 3 himself as well) If you search online, you can usualyl find a kti with a battery or 2 and a charger/dockign station for under $20US total. Good luck!
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Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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LuXx said:
Thank you for your reply! I have just ordered a new battery and will post my findings when it comes. Thanks again.
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no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
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no luck with the new battery. still doing the same thing. please someone help me! Thanks
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tried bootloader and installed official att rom and never shut off. when it was finished with install same issues appeared. help
For anyone facing this issue I would not recommend wasting money on a new battery as this issue has been around with few users since the Kaiser "Tilt" first came out and I've never seen ANY reports that a new battery fixes this. People have bought new batteries, fully charged their battery from a docking station, tried their friends fully charged battery all with the same result. I had this power down issue a Looong time ago my first week in with the Kaiser and managed a fix and am using the same battery now. Although it seems the battery is not being fully charged it's important to leave it charging until you'd assume it's fully charged and get into bootloader mode and flash an official htc Tytn 2 rom. It should flash completely, and the fact that it does not die immediately as on normal boot indicates it is not the battery but the rom. It did take me the whole afternoon of Flashing, recharging and repeating before it finally kicked in. Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Also, from reading older posts, it seems most if not all users like myself fixed this by flashing the older official htc wm 6.0; worth a shot at least.
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Yup, that is what I had to today (I hard reset, actually), with barely enough battery life to do this.
Then the bloody unit came up and was charging - amazing, really!
(Was using the official HTC 6.1 upgraded WindowsMobile OS)
here is my 2 cents....
I owned five Tilts, replaced four of them with warranty issues ... so i have faced this dilemma on at least two of them.
First see if the USB tongue is loose. To do this try to gently tap it with the stylus. If the tongue inside the USB port is loose then you will be facing rebooting and other issues and troubles in the future. The USB tongue gets used and jerked every time you connect your device to your PC or wired headset. If you are still under warranty and the USB connector tongue is loose I recommend returning the phone ( if you still can) and getting a replacement. There is no easy fix for a loose USB connection tongue as i have taken one apart and it is very difficult to repair or replace and very easy to mess it up further.
So, my advice to all Kaiser owners... be careful when plugging and unplugging your phones through the USB. Do it gently as the connectors are very fragile.
For those that have the above issues, I recommend using a separate battery charger tray, avoid plugging the USB as much as you can, and if you must, then administer extra care. The rebooting will stop if you plug the USB cable to the device and move it up and down a hair then holding steady. And most likely you will not get a full charge or even a partial charge. The biggest culprit to this problem is car chargers, and second, is inserting the stylus by mistake (when it is dark and hard to see) in the USB port instead of the Reset hole by accident.
Ok guys i hope some one can help with this ...It all started yesterday when i tried to charge my phone. it kept saying charging at 0% and it stood like that for hours. so i tried another charger & battery and the same thing. I even called t-mobile and they told me i could be a hardware problem, so i was woundering if theres any chance it could still get fixed ??? i am willing to pay if anyone can fix my phone i am located in los angeles pm me if your up to it .
thanks in advance.. if phone is not fixable i will be selling it for parts!!
Tmobile should give you a replacent! Free of charge.
and umm have you tried taking out the battery leaving out for a minute or 2 and then putting it back and trying to charge it?
That is correct.
So long as you are still under warranty, T-Mobile will issue you a replacement phone.
However, if you have any root/modded firmware, you may want to revert back to Stock.
ya i called t-mobile and they said that since i bought the phone off a friend that it void the waranty ...so im stuck with a bad g1 till i get another one and or sell this one for parts...how much would you guys say its worth for parts it works but it has to be plug in at all times>
Not sure if you have access to this, but you may want to try switching out the batteries with a friend. If that doesn't work, go to any T-Mo store and tell them you need to test the battery/phone.
If it works on a new battery, your solution is there. Buy a new one for about $20-$50
It's worth a shot, considering you'd be selling someone a good phone for cheap, lol.
Same Problem
Hello, I also have the same problem with it charging. The usb port seems to work, I bought a new battery and it still doing the same thing. So I built a charger that I can just stick the battery in and I just swap them out. The phone shows the orange light and also says it is charging but it does not charge the battery.
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Hello, I also have the same problem with it charging. The usb port seems to work, I bought a new battery and it still doing the same thing. So I built a charger that I can just stick the battery in and I just swap them out. The phone shows the orange light and also says it is charging but it does not charge the battery.
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I have exactly the same problem, i tested with 3 different batteries, oem cables, wipe phone, factory reset, and im in the same situation.
HELP! any idea to fix this?
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i dont have warranty, i bought about 1.5 years ago, unlocked one, i live outside usa
Alienmike said:
I have exactly the same problem, i tested with 3 different batteries, oem cables, wipe phone, factory reset, and im in the same situation.
HELP! any idea to fix this?
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i dont have warranty, i bought about 1.5 years ago, unlocked one, i live outside usa
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Buy a stand-alone battery charger. Search google for "g1 battery charger" and buy a product similar to this: http://www.netimes.com/shop/desktop-cradle-with-2nd-battery-charger-for-google-g1-p-1506.html
There is probably something wrong with the charging circuit inside the phone and this *should* be a decent work-around for it.
I had this problem with my old HTC Wizard... I just hacked the end off a usb cable and taped the 5v line to the battery terminals to charge it.
I am NOT recommending this as a solution.. but I still have both hands and a functional face.
Ive been having the exact same issue with my G1 phone since updating to the latest Cyanogen rom. Im not saying that the ROM caused the issue, but that the issue developed on the same day I did the update.
I contacted T-Mo and they have shipped me a brand new phone. I had to un-root and go back to the stock ROM, but that was not big deal.
It was definitely an issue with the charging circuit. I have two G1's and was able to charge the battery in the spare phone.
Can anyone help me with my issue. i had a old battery on my g1 that got expanded and wouldnt hold a charge for that long it would just die. Now i bought 2 new batteries and charged them till they were full. Now when the phone dies and i plug in the charger to charge the new batteries they do not charge. I have to put my old expanded battery charge it till its green take the old battery out then put the new one in and then it the led will come on saying its charging. When I try and charge the new batteries when the phone is off it says its charging but the percentage doesnt go up. Anyone have a reason why these batteries wont charge while on, and the only way they will charge when off is if i put the old expanded battery in first charge then charge the new ones. Im running a rooted g1 on 1.6, I just dont understand why I cant charge the new batteries when the phone is on, or when its off unless i use that method. ANy help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Oh yea I have had the phone since launch and im sure the warranty is expired.
You have to change the phone motherboard. Its a hardware problem.
Only solution : Send it for a replacement!
Also my phone is dying fast with the new battery the display and idle is eating it up. I know I can reset my battery stats but when i reset them at 100% i cant reboot and charge to 100% because the phone wont charge while on......Do you guys think if i got a external wall charger i could charge the batteries and they would work. My phone might be reading my old battery stats thats why it doesnt last that long even on new battery
I had the exact same problem, my phone would charge when i plugged it in to the pc but not in the OEM wall charger, so i bought a usb wall charger adapter and used my pc data cable plug and it worked perfectly. Ebay sells them for 4-6 bucks with an additional pc plug, just search htc g1 wall usb adapter charger.
I understand that much time has left, but I have the same problem, the phone is not charging(but 'speaks' that charging is going on). I don't know about the others, but I have noticed that phone can charge in fastboot mode. It charging very slow and I think it because the screen is always on and white(Spl: 1.33.0013d).
It charges only after a strict sequence of actions:
1. When the phone is off turn it to fastboot(power+back)
2. Wait for several secconds.
3. Plug in charger wire.
There is no result in other sequences. I have measured the battery by voltmeter and voltage is truly rising. But LED is off while charging and also phone is warming.
Like others, I tried to change batteries and chargers with no results.
It looks like many users have the same problem, and maybe it can be solved by software methods.
At least maybe there is some way to charge it like in fastboot, but with screen off? It would be more faster.
I've tried to use some programs like battery calibrator, but they are not purposed for such things.
try leaving the battery out for a while, than put it in device and d not power on, plug in the charger and let it charge for a couple hours, than boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, reboot and see if anything changes...
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try leaving the battery out for a while, than put it in device and d not power on, plug in the charger and let it charge for a couple hours, than boot into recovery and wipe battery stats, reboot and see if anything changes...
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I've tried doing so, but it doesn't charge at all while the power if off(but LED is RED). Although I have wiped battery stats now and many times before after 100% charging in fastboot mode with no result.
The question is in difference between charging in fastboot mode and other modes.Maybe someone knows this difference and will help with this problem.
It doesn't charge in recovery mode, while the power is off, when the power is on (system says that it is charging but the percents are going down), and in all of this states LED is working well(Green, Orange, Red). In fastboot mode the LED is off but the charging is going on. Maybe there is a way to emulate fastboot charging mode in system drivers.
By the way, I have changed several ROM's after problem has appeared. Now it is COS-DS(07192011).
I hope that someone will help me and other users who have this problem.
hmmm, wow that is strange... could possibly be a hardware issue... doesn't sound like anything a custom rom would cause, hope you can find an answer to your issue
I have searched the Internet and forums for days and can't find a solution to my problem. I have found a few with the same problem, but no solutions. Please help!
I have a Sprint HTC Touch Diamond 6950SP (DIAM500) running the original ROM. A few months ago and for no apparent reason, it stopped recognizing the battery and stopped accepting a charge. I haven't messed with the phone in any way or attempted to load a new ROM. The Power Status screen simply shows, "Main battery: Unknown". Plugging the phone in with the supplied charger will actually discharge the battery and the circular LED does not come on. I tried several soft and hard resets; then I downloaded and flashed the ROM with the one from the Sprint web site (WM 6.1 Professional 5.2.20764/Build 20764.1.4.3), but nothing seemed to help. I found that I could get the battery to charge by removing the battery (with the phone plugged into the charger) and then putting it back in. When the circular LED flashes twice, I remove the battery and wait till it flashes two more times, and then put the battery back in. This takes many attempts, and eventually the LED continues to flash and will charge the battery. I did this for a long time while I searched for a solution, and one day, it just started working again!!! The phone worked great for several months and suddenly, it has started doing the same thing again.
I decided to upgrade to WM 6.5 and downloaded all the necessary applications, (many thanks to XDA and friends). But, when I attempted to flash my ROM, it stopped and indicated that my battery was too weak - even though I new it had a full charge, (see battery status, above). I've checked the battery with a multimeter, therefore, I know it has a full charge. I don't have any other problems with the phone, nor do I have any problems with it sincing to my computer. I have since ordered a new battery, but it hasn't arrived yet. Someone please help.
Thanks.
I have read at other posts that the Diamond's battery has a recognition chip in it. Also, without the battery, it will not run from the charger. Could the chip in the battery be bad? Has anyone else had this problem?
Is there a registry fix (or tweak) for the battery status? Please, one of you must know something about this.
Got my new battery - the phone does not power up, charge or anything else with the new battery. I tried charging the new battery with the method I've tried before, (see above), but it won't even light the circular LED. I checked the new battery with a multimeter, and it shows it has 3.7 volts. Now what? Any ideas would be appreciated.
that happened to me for a little while. idont know what it was but it wouldnt charge using the usb cable to any computer or even the a/c adapter but it would charge with another wall charger i had. after a couple days a friend had his psp over and i charged my phone with his cable on my computer like nothing and after wards it all worked again
Thank you so much for your reply!!!
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that happened to me for a little while. idont know what it was but it wouldnt charge using the usb cable to any computer or even the a/c adapter but it would charge with another wall charger i had. after a couple days a friend had his psp over and i charged my phone with his cable on my computer like nothing and after wards it all worked again
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I have tried other cables and chargers, but none have helped. Last time my phone started working properly, I had plugged it in to my computer, but that hasn't happened this time. Thanx for your comments - keep 'em coming.
I purchased a new charger/docking station for my phone and spare battery. It wouldn't charge my phone or the new battery I purchased either. The new battery still will not work in my phone - paper weight! The charger does charge my old battery, though. Does anyone know if you can run a Touch Diamond from the USB/charging cable without the battery installed? Mine won't, but I was wondering if it should.
Hey man
you know that happend to me when i first flashed my diamond for metro i bought a new battery and nuthing changed so what i did was a hard reset and it fixed it for me but i dont know thats just me and if u want to try it make sure u back up ur contacts with PIM backup hope u fixe it
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you know that happend to me when i first flashed my diamond for metro i bought a new battery and nuthing changed so what i did was a hard reset and it fixed it for me but i dont know thats just me and if u want to try it make sure u back up ur contacts with PIM backup hope u fixe it
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Thanks, Krzynate! I tried that already, many times now, (see my first post in this thread). Thanks anyway and please keep the posts coming.
I had the same problem.. I ended up buying a new battery and it wouldn't charge in my phone. So I ordered an external charger from EBAY for 10$. My new battery is charging so It might be the solution you are looking for.
Thank you so much for posting! As I wrote previously,
(I purchased a new charger/docking station for my phone and spare battery. It wouldn't charge my phone or the new battery I purchased either. The new battery still will not work in my phone - paper weight! The charger does charge my old battery, though.), this did not fix my problem. The vender that sold me the new (bad) battery is sending me another one - hopefully, it will work this time.
It's Fixed!!!
I wrote the Internet store where I purchased the non-working battery. They sent me another battery and now it's fixed!!! The battery indicator and status all recognize the new battery! Apparently, there is a recognition chip in the battery; the original battery's chip's software became corrupted, and the other "new" battery's chip was blank. The original battery still works, (as long as I charge it with the external charger), and still has an unrecognized status in WM 6.1. Please pass this info on to others that have simular problems. Thanx XDA!