Hi All,
Has anyone else noticed that the Kaiser / IE seems to redirect you to a "pda friendly" version of a website.. I found this alot with News Sites and its nothing like the site you get from a standard PC/Desktop. I dont know how it knows I'm searching from my Kaiser and dont like the "pda friendly" pages, is there anyway to override this "feature" - After all I like to think I am getting to the actual website I want and not what "they" want...
It isn't the Kaiser that takes you to the PDA site. When you access the webserver that hosts the site it checks what browser you are requesting the page from.
neilarmstrong99 said:
Hi All,
Has anyone else noticed that the Kaiser / IE seems to redirect you to a "pda friendly" version of a website.. I found this alot with News Sites and its nothing like the site you get from a standard PC/Desktop. I dont know how it knows I'm searching from my Kaiser and dont like the "pda friendly" pages, is there anyway to override this "feature" - After all I like to think I am getting to the actual website I want and not what "they" want...
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You can avoid this and see the 'real' web by downloading and installing Opera. There is a setting in opera 9.5b's options to see the full web page rather than the mobile version.
Thanks there - I guess I should have known it was the Sites server etc and not the Kaiser.... So IE can't do it then, not had any experience with Opera so will give it a go (assuming I can find it) also I hear there is a Firefox version around called Minimo but again not used it before and dont know if it can do what Opera can....
Many thanks, will let you know how I get on.
Minimo was abandoned somewhere in 2006 at v0.2, was pretty unusable compared to today's browsers like Opera.
Hi,
Thanks for all the advice, yes I can see the pro's of Opera. Very sleek and lets me see the "proper" web page as opposed to the "pda friendly". Shame about Minimo tho as I like Firefox.... Here's to happy web surfing.
neilarmstrong99 said:
Thanks there - I guess I should have known it was the Sites server etc and not the Kaiser.... So IE can't do it then,
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PIE isn't that great... but in these cases the owners of those particular sites have set it up to give a special version of their sites.
Its possible to get to the real version by messing with the user agent... but Opera does it soooooooo much better there isn't really any point. Opera mini 4 is free and works on any java enabled mobile phone (including the kaiser)
Opera Mobile 9.5 is available as a free beta version for windows mobile devices. Eventually they will release a commercial version which they will charge for and this is the one you really want on your kaiser (and should be worth the money!)
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No Tesco (UK) are not selling cheap Kaiser's before you ask
I've a bit of a request. I'm pretty much ready to buy the Kaiser, however, there is one deal breaker for me.
Part 1...
I want to know if the Tesco shopping website for groceries will work on the WM6 IE browser. Seem like an odd request? Well I do my grocery shopping online and if I can't add items to my basket while using IE for WM6 then this is a big deal for me!
Sad I know but true.
So can some kind person test WM6 IE with Tesco Groceries ( http://www.tesco.com/superstore/bob.asp? ) and let me know if the site loads after you have signed in? I can log into the site on WM5 on my Wizard but it will not load past the sign in screen so I can't use the site.
I know it works on Opera Mini 4 so please don't suggest that.
I want to know if it works on IE for WM6 as this leads onto part 2.
Part 2...
Is there a lists / video / post somewhere of the Touch Flo enchancements HTC has implmented that affect WM6 IE on the kaiser? I've seen videos of people draging on the screen to zoom in/out. I know you can pan etc. Is this all?
Thanks!
I tried from the US and received a message "Sorry, your browser is not suitable". I tried this with internet explorer. Opera mini version 4 on the other hand seems to work because it gave me the page to sign in or register as a new customer.
i have a very similar issue, www.yahoo.com.hk will only display in a simplified version on the english version tytn 2, whiles the chinese version tytn 2 display the full version.
any fix for this.
kms
michalopoulosgk said:
I tried from the US and received a message "Sorry, your browser is not suitable". I tried this with internet explorer. Opera mini version 4 on the other hand seems to work because it gave me the page to sign in or register as a new customer.
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Hmm interesting thanks
Contact the web developer
Perhaps you could contact the web developer for the site you're having issues with. It could end up being a simple fix to enable WM6 IE to work.
Right checked this for you.
When you goto the URL you gave, it says the browser is not supported but gives the option to goto the access site.
Click goto access site, loads fine, and lets me login and then takes me to a slim site. This let me browse the departments and add them.
I have attached a zip with about 18 screens in it for you, along with a couple of screens
All done on Vario III flashed with Duttys normal rom final (v4) nothing else added into it
Kimbie
hi all,
i'm really frustrated with my htc s730, has anyone tried to open forum.xda-developers.com on their device?
fast openning of the page but as soon as i start scrooling it takes me two minutes to get to the bottom of the page.
maybe that's beacuse the missing drivers.
But i think it's not acceptable to sell a device with so low performances. I feel cheated, s710 my previous phone performs alot better.
i get the ideia that the device slows down when openning pictures...
???
use Opera...
i usualy don't like to use something just because the original software doesn't work but i guess it will be the case.
anyone has a beta of opera 9.5?
madds said:
i usualy don't like to use something just because the original software doesn't work but i guess it will be the case.
anyone has a beta of opera 9.5?
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Wasn't released yet.
I use Opera v8x, i guess,this is the best PIE replacement (yet).
There are some others out there,too.
Just read Menneisyys Windows Mobile Web Browsing Bible ..
i'm downloading the 9.3 beta to try it...
Yes this forum take aaaaaages to view on the S730.
Strange as it is that this site is about mobiles but has no mobile friendly version?!
open www.xda-developers.com and you will see a pda version link on the left of the page.
The problem is that the post are not arranged by last post, what makes that version loose all of it's funcionality... :S
Not sure as I have never tried coming here from my phone yet, but I know with some other sites IE has some default display options that will either keep the origional website layout and look, or modefy it for "easier" use. I have been to a few sites that were useless and took ages to navigate unless I changed how IE displays the page. Might be worth a try. (not that opera isnt good, use it on the PC and the phone )
Hi,
Skyfire is a free, downloadable mobile web browser that allows you to experience the internet on your phone exactly like on your PC. Now, you can use the full web from your mobile phone with unprecedented speed and simplicity – without the typical restrictions and limitations that current ‘mobile web’ efforts offer. It’s “The Web”, not some mobile web. (Taken from their site)
The best feature in this? "Unlike other mobile browsers, Skyfire supports the desktop version of Adobe Flash applications so sites, including those that serve-up video and music, are rendered exactly as you would expect - just like your PC."
Now... Will Opera support flash or not, we can always install this on Xperia - or any windows mobile - to get flash support for sites...
NOTE: I just read in the main forum the following: "Please note that this board does not tolerate cracks, serials, pirated versions or the posting of software that should have been aquired by legal means and we will remove (delete) them when found. Please help us keep this site clean by posting links of that sort in this tread as well as telling us if you have found anything on the ftp site."
So in light of that, i have removed the link to download Skyfire via RapidShare from here. Anyways, i'm sure if you register on the site, you'll get your hands on it - since even i got it and i am in Pakistan!
Best regards.
This is all well and good, but currently, skyfire doesn't support VGA or WVGA devices!!! Is there a fix/workaround to this?
fpbiii said:
This is all well and good, but currently, skyfire doesn't support VGA or WVGA devices!!! Is there a fix/workaround to this?
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It doesn't? Well it's a Beta, so hopefully will soon.
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
Kloc said:
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
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Because they optimise the most common pages on their server
It's a really nice app
Kloc said:
Wow thanks for telling me about this. I installed it and it looks very promising. Not to mention the pages load really fast.
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Awesome!!!!
Well after using it for a few days I switched to Opera Mobile bet 9.6. I actually like it quite a bit better then skyfire. Yes skyfire load pages faster then anything I've seen but zooming on those pages takes time and trying to scroll is bad. Opera's new program takes full time to load the page but once it's loaded the scrolling and moving is very good.
In case you can't download this, then i just updated the first post with a rapidshare link to download this.
Skyfire has shut down nonUS winmo 1.5 server access as of July1, 2010. Android v2 still works in Australia. Have found an alternative but costs ~$30 after a 7 day trial, Mach5 Web @ www.netacceler.com. This is a Hongkong based server and may encounter some geolocking by some sites (such as ABC.net.au iview). This is the only video enabled browser for winmo that I'm aware of. It doesn't 'remember' usename and passwords as Opera does.
in the past , i used to LIKE skyfire. Why? because it supports flash and other stuffs. it plays videos on other sites not just youtube. What I don't like about it TODAY is that it does not allow other countries, like the Philippines to use it. now I'm stucked at old opera. so sad.
And it still suffers from the very issues that have been there since it's introduction (checkboard issue, slowness of scrolling and zooming...). Sadly one more app among many others for which development has been stopped due to the imminent lauch of Windows Phone 7. I think now we definitely have to face the fact that our platform (Windows Mobile) is dying.
Hello
As far as I know,that Mozilla Fennec is nowadays available only for desktop emulated or Linux Nokia N810 version.
Now,I have read this new...
http://www.msmobilenews.com/windows...refox-named-fennec-and-released-in-alpha.html
You can see the screenshot up-right taken from WM device(seems to be as our,depending on scheme).
So my question is:
How can we start it under Windows Mobile? I didn't found any WM installation.
if you ever find out please pm me.
On the wiki of the mozilla website, it looks like the release is somewhere next week. link.
i read about it. It has to release in a week.
Here is an article you can read:
http://www.wmexperts.com/firefox-mobile-may-be-touch-pro-next-week
They are targeting an Alpha release in the first week of Feb. I can't wait to try it out.
Ask of now, there are no offical downloads, yet.
Another article:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5140839/firefox-mobile-headed-for-windows-mobile-as-early-as-next-week
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
thoughtlesskyle said:
i understand the hype about it and everything,
but you know skyfire is based of firefox's source code right?
i dont know how much dif it will be
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Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
thoughtlesskyle said:
oh ok, i did see it has tabbed browsing does anybody know if it will have flash?
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I dont see anything thats says it supports flash. I would imagine that if it did support flash it would be made very clear as it would be a great "selling point"
New Skyfire build
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
jsmith8858 said:
Skyfire is a SERVER application; a server processes websites and returns data to your phone via the client application. Your phone never directly browses websites, everything goes through Skyfire servers. This is similar to how Opera Mini works.
Fennec is a true client browser, like Opera Mobile, IE, NetFront.
In otherwords, Fennec and Skyfire are completely different.
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Isn't Opera a Server app as well?
I thought the only browsers that contacted the websites directly was IE and NetFront.
here's more recent leaked shots: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1737
The pre-release version does not run well at all...
Comsat said:
In the mean time: there is a new Skyfire build 81xx which now seems to is realy VGA compatible. Yust brose with IE to get.skyfire.com, chose touch based wm 6 and off you go. Have fun, screen looks much better now.
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Cant find this... True VGA?
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
exactly, they claim that you get a new menu item if there is an update, never seen it though.
Runs quite nice, true flash support including youtube direct play. Just a litle bit slower as Opera mini.
For me the third browser when you realy need flash support.
thoughtlesskyle said:
just go to skyfire.com with IE and download it from the screen that comes up, i wish i would have told me there was a new version availible
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Is there a new skyfire that supports VGA? I went on the site but doesn't show the version..
I have read about pre-release build of Fennec,but experiences are very bad for now. We will see next week,how it will be. I want to try Skyfire as well,but it is available only for US as my informations are. Or is it working in EU as well?
It is available in EU to, just go to "get.skyfire.com" and download the WM 6 version. Go there with IE as you need a WAP browser.
Yes, the pre release of fennec sucks...
Does anyone know how to get the mobile sites to show correctly in Opera Mobile. I attached below screenshots of how they are loading. I would like to get how PIE6 is loading MSN mobile onto Opera Mobile.
I am using Opera Mobile 16277
Thanks
Nothing to do with ROM Develpoment, Kaiser Software/General or maybe in an Opera thread. ROM Development section is meant to be for the title specified.................
Please post in the correct sub forum.
go to the opera forums on their site and ask, doesn't belong here, sorry.
Alright, no need to double team him .
Moved to Kaiser Software.
Just a tip here, as i don't think I'll be followiing this thread:
Microsoft is widely known for having different "sites" for different browsers, so don't expect to see the same thing as you do in IE. It happens for desktops too. Not too long ago, even the HTML and CSS code used to change depending on the browser.
Probably the only way to see a M$ site be shown in Opera in the same way it shows up in PIE is if Opera begins to identify itself as PIE and also begins to behave like it, what I don't think will happen - and honestly hope it won't.
So, if you want to compare browsers, try a more general site, preferrably not ASP-based, then you'll get a fair chance. Having said all that, I agree that it's more likely an issue for the Opera guys.
Good luck!