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Has anyone else got issues with the use of SD cards in their Alpine derivitive?
Like the card not showing as being there when you try to write to it or explore the phone with file explorer or ActiveSync?
Perhaps videos on the card stop whilst watching them with a file error or the like?
Mine does with all 4 different makes of card I have tried and I am wondering if this is a common fault.
Yep its a very common fault.
I think everyone has the same experiences. (Me included)
what version ROMs do you have ?
there is an upgrade available if yours is the origonal, the upgrade will help a bit.
have a look here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
But read to the Third page as "Pug" psted a more up to date package
I am using Pug's Radio version 1.03 hybrid, but continue to suffer!
I have downloaded a SD Card benchmarking utility, my card is showing as 4.7x, but I don't know how that relates to manufacturers quoted speeds. It is either painfully slow or uses a different scale!
1GB SD from Transcend
Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated
Does anyone know where to get the 4 GB SD-Cards cheapest?
And what branches are there?
A-Data and Pretec i know, but are there more?
Re: 1GB SD from Transcend
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Some ppl said the Transcend 512 SD works well on the 2i, just wonder if the 1 GB will work as good as the 512...
Any comment will be appreciated
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I bought a Transcend 256mb 80X card an my XDA IIi has worked flawlessly since with no lock-ups what-so-ever.
I can't speak for the 1mb though!
This seems to be a power issue, the Transcend cards are very low voltage and ampage. My old SanDisk card would fail every time a network function took place, and they are high power drains.
I bought a OEM (white labelled) 1GB MMC and use it on my IIi. Everything is fine so far...
Is there any difference between MMC and SD in terms of IIi flaws?
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Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.
Someone told me once that the IIi works best with a fast SD card like the Kingston Elite Pro. I changed to that and all my problems when away. TomTom5 stopped locking up as well.
Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.
Kingston SD Card
Are there any other users who have used the Kingston Elite Pro SD Card. I have been looking around for a while, and the Kingston Elite Pro 1 GB / 512 MB seem to be a single layered card.
I also wanted to confirm that when using a Sandisk SD card, I am having lockup's. If I take the card out of the slot, the XDA2i begins to respond again. Though I must admit I havent tested it exhaustively.
Danny-B- said:
Only SD cards are supported by the XDA2i, although if you use the backpack addon i think you can use MMC, but not without the addon.
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You mean CF not MMC. SD and MMC both work in SD slots, but not vice versa.
CF type 2 is the slot on the VGA backpack.
SD Card issue
I understand all SD cards work.. I was trying to find the compatability of the same with Tomtom Navigator 5. I understand from the earlier posts that a multi layer card causes lockups. The transcend 80X card works fine. I was inclined towards buying a Kingston Elite Pro and hence the question...
SD Card issue
I have removed this message as it was posted twice by mistake
another Newbie,.,
hiya all. . i'm recieving my Xda 2i in about an hour.. just wondering which SD memory works best.. i read a few posts and quite frankly being quite confused,, was about to order a scandisk SD 1 gb card.. but i read somewhere ppl saying this is bad??
is that true?
thanks..
The Sandisk is not the best one. I have one and it causes lockups being a multilayer card. The transcend 80x works fine ( what i gather from different forums ). The Kingston Elite Pro also has some very good feedback. I am purchasing a 1 gb Kingston elite pro today. Sandisk is a no no... [/quote]
Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880
zehave said:
Thanks m8...
Kingston elite pro huh? like this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7550999880
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I cannot browse Ebay at work so couldnt confirm. But you could find the card on this url:
http://www.epcbuyer.com/products.asp?recnumber=5761
Its around £44 on this site.
I tried to find a deal at ebay from home yesterday. They are around £39 and are being shipped from HongKong. I dont know when we will receive it. There could be excise + other charges. I am not sure.
hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...
zehave said:
hmm.. well on this guy whom is shipping from HK is selling it at 25 quid including shipping.. .trouble is i want it asap .. Heh... buying from him seems like 20 quid cheaper.. howeber have to wait for about 10 days or so.. . so he sez.. not to mention customs and duties.. ....
i just might shell out 44 quid then...
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Well you also avoided the same trap... I almost fell into. Though it says £12 (Card) + £13 for postage, but you didnt have a look at the mandatory insurance which stands at £13. In all its around £38 + Other expenses. Not to mention the pain of getting it from hongkong...
Good decision at last...
Anyone know the maximum card size the kaiser/vario3 supports?
I am thinking about getting a 6Gb microSDHC
Got a 6Gb in since Saturday. Works a treat.
32gb max even though it is not available yet.
Essentially, ANY SDHC card available as of today will work in the Kaiser.
Sweet, god this fone roxs, so pleased i didnt get the limited iphone!
I asked HTC about this when I first bought my Kaiser. They told me it would support up to a 4GB micro SDHC. There have been other posts with people who have successfully installed a 6GB card but have found problems when trying to access files and the phone has locked up, so beware.
8G
I have a Sandisk 8Gig in mine... works perfectly.
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I asked HTC about this when I first bought my Kaiser. They told me it would support up to a 4GB micro SDHC. There have been other posts with people who have successfully installed a 6GB card but have found problems when trying to access files and the phone has locked up, so beware.
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I think most of that has to do with crappy quality SD cards.
I've never had a problem with any Sandisk card I've had. 1,2, and 4 GB
The reason for HTCs ascertion is simple. At the time of production of the Kaiser the largest SDHC microSD card available was a 4GB card. Therefore, they could only certify that it worked with 4GB cards at that time. And, as far as persons having issues with their phones locking up while trying to read from a 6GB card, I would venture that no matter which card that person(s) was using they would have experinced a similar fate due to whatever it was they were doing at the time.
That said, I have no reason to believe that SDHC cards up to 32 GB will not be fully supported by the WM6 OSes currently being distributed. Furthermore, I anticipate that future revisions of said OSes will equally compatible.
Hi guys,
Sorry to re-hash this thread, just wondering...
I'm about to buy a TyTN II off a friend in work, and wondering if someone could advise me the best card to buy?
I'm a massive music buff, and love my current hermes, however 8GB isn't enough these days, and itching to have more music to beat the iMoan.
So far, some digging has found me this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155755
Would that be suitable for the TyTN II?
Thank you,
I currently have a 8GB Class-4 sandisk card in my Kaiser and it has worked perfectly since I installed it last year. I have some TomTom maps and a load of music and its about 2/3's full. I have been looking for a 16GB but have held off so far. 7Dayshop.com have some 16GB MicroSD cards starting at £32.99 delivered, but these are only Class-2.
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cat=6&type=6027&man=0&filterwords=&go=SEARCH&comp=
Andy
According to the information I have, the 8925/Kaiser/Tilt, etc, will support at 32gig microSD card.
From what I've read, the Tilt/Kaiser will support up to a 32 gb, although 16 gb is the largest out.
However, I also read that it will only read at Class 2 speeds. Anyone know if that's actually true? If going to class 6 will give me more speed, I'd definitely go for that when I upgrade my card, but if not, there's no reason to pay more for it.
Anyone know when the 32 gb cards are supposed to come out?
Always buy a Name Brand Card and From a Reputable Dealer and you won't have any problems.
There are a lot of nefarious people out there that trick 2GB cards to act like 8GB cards and by the time you find out, because of locking up and data corruption they are gone with your cash. Don't cheap out when it comes to your data.
at this very moment; so anybody having found out, whether a 16 GB card would work in Touch Dual?
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I only have a 6GB, that is working very well!
Where do you find 16GB Micro SD? I dont think it is exist at this moment.
There is no such thing as a 16GB microSD, at least not outside a testing lab. The biggest on general sale is 8GB.
SanDisk has also announced a 12GB which is due out at summer. They expect it will actually be 16GB by the time it comes out.
What I am surprised about is that I haven't seen other companies get more quickly to the 6/8 range. With smartphones going to only one slot, the larger cards are helpful.
My preference would still be TWO microSD slots, so I could use one for work and the other for interchangeable media.
Well I guess if you have $200+ lying around you could go here...
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa16trmimmec.html
I know nothing of this vendor, but its the only site I've seen so far offering 12/16GB Micro-SD.
Looks as though this will remain out of my price range for some time.
Enjoy the 16g card out in nov
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Just got NC for early Father's Day! I luv ma fam!
Everything I been finding here talks about 2,4, or 8 gigs SD cards.
NC says it can use up to 32gig.
Anyone tried this? I figure SDHC 32 G class 6 would work.
MrGeek said:
Just got NC for early Father's Day! I luv ma fam!
Everything I been finding here talks about 2,4, or 8 gigs SD cards.
NC says it can use up to 32gig.
Anyone tried this? I figure SDHC 32 G class 6 would work.
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Everything I've read states the higher capacity cards don't do well running ROMs. Like you I'm new to the nook so I"m sure someone else with more experience will chime in.
I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.
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I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.
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What size Sandisk card do you recommend for running custom ROMs? I've read 8 but I really would like to run a 16.
With a sandisk, I can't see any reason why a 16 or even 32 gig card would give you trouble on roms.
Using the card to run your "operating system" seems to require a higher small-block read/write speed than most cards have. Two things seem to affect it: 1) brand (sandisk is currently the only way to go), and 2)it seems that higher classed cards sacrifice the small block performance a bit. This makes sense to me, since the classification related to large block sequential read/writes (iirc), so some trade-iffs are always expected.
See this thread for useful things.
And I think most people are buying the smaller card mostly because of price, and partly due to a herd mentality on threads like the above.
Sandisk 16gb is just fine for running the Rom off the sd card; that is my current setup.
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Sandisk 16gb is just fine for running the Rom off the sd card; that is my current setup.
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What class? I'm having a hard time finding class 4.
skwalas said:
I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.
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Funny how all the Transcend cards in all 3 Nooks in my house are brilliant. I've used Transcend for years and have never had a problem, be it in my cameras to my phones.
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Funny how all the Transcend cards in all 3 Nooks in my house are brilliant. I've used Transcend for years and have never had a problem, be it in my cameras to my phones.
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I was referring to the specific instance of using transcend for running cm7 for example. I understand transcend and patriot are decent when used for data, and I have PNY cards in our cameras, so they seem to work fine for data.
I have a wintec SDCH 16g class 4 and it works fine, but I only use it for data.
I've been looking into this, and here's what it boils down to:
Most MicroSD cards are set up for data transfer aimed at large files, such as video or high resolution pictures. The majority of the market these cards are manufactured for are digital camcorders, cameras, and smart phones with cameras.
They've gotten great at streaming media to and from the cards, and using them as storage mediums.
Running an operating system from the card requires a whole lot of small data transfers, which is not a specification that manufacterers pay much attention to. Most people would never notice improvement in this area of the manufacturing process, so the companies don't waste money on it.
Different manufacturers have different ideas of what their product should be capable of.
SanDisk is the brand that has consistently tested better for small data transfer then other card makers.
Running programs/operating systems from a MicroSD card is a new animal, something that hasn't really been done before now, and the tablet market is still in it's infancy.
I'm sure this issue will be addressed by the hardware makers of memory cards over the next year or so, but for now we are stuck with the task of trying to figure out what works for our purpose given what's available on the market right now.
All this being said, out of a handful of cards I own, my 16 gig SanDisk class 2 MicroSD card is my highest performing card - more then twice as fast as even 4 out of 5 of the 8 gig SanDisk cards I have.
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
Post 5 in this thread has a link that takes you to the one that has become our communal benchmark thread, and has a lot of info on this topic.
I would surmise that a 32 gig SanDisk brand card would probably be pretty good given that:
-Sandisk 8 gig cards (in class 2 and 4) are the general recommendation
-SanDisk 16 gig cards consistently test to a higher performance level then the 8 gig cards.
If this is the beginning of a pattern, and the larger capacity SanDisk cards are inherently manufactered to a higher small data standard, then theoretically the 32 gig card would be better.
But, this is only a theory. A 32 gig card is more then just a couple of bucks, and I don't think we have enough benchmarks on them yet to say one way or another.
Even with the SanDisk 8 gig cards, there is a wide range of what you could end up with on small data transfer speed. It's kind of pot luck. Even the slowest ones are many orders of magnitude faster then most other manufacturers, though.
This would be a good thread for people who do have 32 gig cards of any brand to chime in on, so we could keep the discussion about the largest supported capacity card on the Nook seperate from the other threads on this topic.
I saw a thread a week or so ago regarding testing class 4 cards and which were better. I just ordered a NC the other day. Anyone know the thread?
Blue6IX said:
I've been looking into this, and here's what it boils down to:
Most MicroSD cards are set up for data transfer aimed at large files, such as video or high resolution pictures. The majority of the market these cards are manufactured for are digital camcorders, cameras, and smart phones with cameras.
They've gotten great at streaming media to and from the cards, and using them as storage mediums.
Running an operating system from the card requires a whole lot of small data transfers, which is not a specification that manufacterers pay much attention to. Most people would never notice improvement in this area of the manufacturing process, so the companies don't waste money on it.
Different manufacturers have different ideas of what their product should be capable of.
SanDisk is the brand that has consistently tested better for small data transfer then other card makers.
Running programs/operating systems from a MicroSD card is a new animal, something that hasn't really been done before now, and the tablet market is still in it's infancy.
I'm sure this issue will be addressed by the hardware makers of memory cards over the next year or so, but for now we are stuck with the task of trying to figure out what works for our purpose given what's available on the market right now.
All this being said, out of a handful of cards I own, my 16 gig SanDisk class 2 MicroSD card is my highest performing card - more then twice as fast as even 4 out of 5 of the 8 gig SanDisk cards I have.
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
Post 5 in this thread has a link that takes you to the one that has become our communal benchmark thread, and has a lot of info on this topic.
I would surmise that a 32 gig SanDisk brand card would probably be pretty good given that:
-Sandisk 8 gig cards (in class 2 and 4) are the general recommendation
-SanDisk 16 gig cards consistently test to a higher performance level then the 8 gig cards.
If this is the beginning of a pattern, and the larger capacity SanDisk cards are inherently manufactered to a higher small data standard, then theoretically the 32 gig card would be better.
But, this is only a theory. A 32 gig card is more then just a couple of bucks, and I don't think we have enough benchmarks on them yet to say one way or another.
Even with the SanDisk 8 gig cards, there is a wide range of what you could end up with on small data transfer speed. It's kind of pot luck. Even the slowest ones are many orders of magnitude faster then most other manufacturers, though.
This would be a good thread for people who do have 32 gig cards of any brand to chime in on, so we could keep the discussion about the largest supported capacity card on the Nook seperate from the other threads on this topic.
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Thank you for a very informative post. As I mentioned earlier I'm new to the NC and your post has helped me considerably.
androidmonkey said:
I saw a thread a week or so ago regarding testing class 4 cards and which were better. I just ordered a NC the other day. Anyone know the thread?
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You might mean my thread on comparing speed results between different readers using the benchmark software.
It's more a look at the testing software and methods of doing so then the actual cards themselves.
The more people who post benchmark results in the thread skwalas linked to back in post 5, the better of an idea we'll have of what works for us.
The amount of information we've collected so far in such a short time is astonishing - this is a great community.
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What class? I'm having a hard time finding class 4.
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Sandisk 16gb, Class 4; Got it from Radio Shack a month or so ago on sale for like $25.
32 Gig
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G7D0IW
Bought this one about a month ago. Transferred my 16G class 2 from Radio Shack to the 32G then expanded the partition. I run CM7 off the SD. Works GREAT!. I run movies, apps from the card with tons of room.
Thanks for all the replies! They been very helpful!
However...
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
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I tried downloading that and it got flagged as malware by Microsoft Security Essentials.
Rocking a 32 Lexar Class 10 here. Just download SD Tools from the market and its running 11 MB/s write and 25 MB/s read.
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Rocking a 32 Lexar Class 10 here. Just download SD Tools from the market and its running 11 MB/s write and 25 MB/s read.
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IIRC, Lexar splits their Class X cards into two more classifications, a regular and an Ultra class. Which one was yours?
Also, Radio Shack currently has 8gb Sandisk C4 cards for sale at 14.99. Perfect for playing with an SD install. With Crystal mark and a cheapie USB reader I got 2.5mb/s read, 1.5 mb/s write (both of the small block ones). I believe these are the important ones for an SD card based ROM?
I suspect the main reason there's not much info out there on 32GB cards is that people are less willing to drop $50-80 on something that may not work (IF they're trying to run a custom ROM from the card). If you're not trying to set up a custom ROM install on the SD, get any card you want--you may appreciate that higher sequential read/write in the higher class cards when you're moving multiple GB of movies or music to and from the card.
From everything I've read, the size of the card makes no difference whatsoever. The only reason people harp on the 8GB and 16GB Sandisk cards is because those specific models (both class 2 and 4 in those sizes) have been tested many times and return both reliably high small-block random writes and positive anecdotal reports for running ROMs. The size, manufacturer and class are irrelevant in and of themselves: they just let us identify specific models identified as most consistently working well.
Also, CrystalDiskMark is not malware: just do a custom install and choose not to install whatever is bundled with it (do this always for all software, I'd say). It's whatever program they use to suggest other software that triggers the false positives in security programs.
I recently purchased a Transcend 32GB microSDHC Class4 card from flipkart.com. Here's the link for India users - http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/mem...mw--&ref=18c5ea3e-e6a4-4c2f-9048-37078ca82287
I am running JaguarMIUI V9 on it. I have about 4GB of songs and about 10GB of HD videos and movies. Works just fine.
Plug it into a microSD card reader and copy files at almost 5Mbps speeds. Access speed in the HD2 too is excellent.
Since I spent a lot of time reading about what card will suit my HD2 before I actually bought it, thought I would share it for the benefit of all.
And it costs just INR 3000. Enjoy!
kunsam said:
I recently purchased a Transcend 32GB microSDHC Class4 card from flipkart.com. Here's the link for India users - http://www.flipkart.com/mobiles/mem...mw--&ref=18c5ea3e-e6a4-4c2f-9048-37078ca82287
I am running JaguarMIUI V9 on it. I have about 4GB of songs and about 10GB of HD videos and movies. Works just fine.
Plug it into a microSD card reader and copy files at almost 5Mbps speeds. Access speed in the HD2 too is excellent.
Since I spent a lot of time reading about what card will suit my HD2 before I actually bought it, thought I would share it for the benefit of all.
And it costs just INR 3000. Enjoy!
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Would you care to backup your data and test this out with WP7? Just so I and other WP7 fans can know whether we should get such cards.
Sorry for the delayed reply. incidentally, I have never tried WP7 and do not intend to try as well. I have stock winmo6.5 and I run Android from my SD card.
All I can say is - if winmo6.5 works, WP7 should also work. I think it's more about hardware compatibility first; OS will follow. Thanks!
thats way too cheap i gonna order soon!!!!!
32 g? have support to them? thats good to know
Kingston 32 GB microSDHC works fine for me