Alternative OS Frontends - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Can anyone point me to other frontents for Windows Mobile like for example
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshel

PointUI Home was another one that I tried on my previous WinMob phone, it's very responsive and smooth but it's not the most attractive front end in the world. Also, not being able to see the clock and upcoming appointments at the same time got right on my tits. To be honest I've yet to come across a front end with a Today style screen that shows everything the default WinMob one does (i.e. date/time, tasks, appointments and count of unread emails/messages) which annoys the hell out of me, I don't understand how these various companies have spent time writing front ends intended to replace WinMob yet can't give us a Today screen that even has the functionality of the default one. Is it really that hard to do?

thanks, i tried and installes 1.51a of it, but nothing happens, still standard winmob frontend... how must i intall it properly?

bravemenrun333 said:
thanks, i tried and installes 1.51a of it, but nothing happens, still standard winmob frontend... how must i intall it properly?
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If it's installed properly you should now have an entry for it in your Programs list, you can just launch it from there like any other application and I think it then remains resident.
On a related note I found this Wizbar app that seems to allow the customisation of WinMob though I haven't tried this one out. There are some themes for it here.

I'm very happy with SPB software though obviously it's quite expensive to buy. I think it has a free trial.
SPB pocket plus is a genius bit of software because it allows you to quickly select from up to 7 today screens each containing various today plugins and shortcuts. You get up to 6 tabs plus your regular today screen (when the tabs are set to auto-hide).
Other today plugins I'm using are Pocket Player, DevState 1.5 (as a task manager) and SPB Time, Diary, Weather and Mobile Suite (another great program). (Not cheap )
Here are some screens - the photo is a holiday shot from Turkey:

there is also vito winterface which is iphone clone...quite nice but nothing new. i still with manila

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Calendar Today plugin bug

Really annoying bug from Microsoft Calendar
When you select option to display upcoming appointments and also checked to display all day events, it will not display the all day events !
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2045397&SiteID=65
Anyone know which good and small application to replace this Calendar plugin?
PocketBreeze is nice, but it is too complicated just for showing several events in advance.
Calendar+ is nice and freeware, but I dont know if it is running fine on WM6 (there was a report said it wont run on WM6).
IMHO, PocketBreeze and SPB Diary (I think that's the name), is the best plugin for calendar events. While they can be a bit complicated to set up (so does your PPC compared to a cheap model of Nokia), it can work pretty much to the way you want it to. E.g., I'm using PBreeze, I can have the top tab row remove, just showing the schedule, for 7 days. Everything is in 1 place, colour coded. Yes, you REALLY need to dig in to make it works for you.
Anyway, you can perhaps try the freeware, TodayAgenda. Not sure if it works on WM6, but it is *like* a much lighter version of Pocket Breeze, with easy settings.
gogol said:
Really annoying bug from Microsoft Calendar
When you select option to display upcoming appointments and also checked to display all day events, it will not display the all day events !
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Or you might wanna fidle with the regisrty a bit.... Numerous WM5 hacks work perfectly on a WM6 device... Check out the wiki's
I recommend Calendar+, it is an excellent replacement for the normal
Calendar plugin, highly customizable and looks great. Best of all,
it's free.
http://www.mohairsofa.com/Default.aspx/document/10
Kim
TodayAgenda
TodayAgenda is really the best!
Highly configurable
Free
Click here for the todayagenda website
gogol said:
Really annoying bug from Microsoft Calendar
When you select option to display upcoming appointments and also checked to display all day events, it will not display the all day events !
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2045397&SiteID=65
Anyone know which good and small application to replace this Calendar plugin?
PocketBreeze is nice, but it is too complicated just for showing several events in advance.
Calendar+ is nice and freeware, but I dont know if it is running fine on WM6 (there was a report said it wont run on WM6).
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Try it and see! Works fine on my TyTN II
Thanks guys, I will give it (calplus) a go later today.
One bug down, still another one :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330224
Although the Calendar+ is working fine, it has small annoying bug
In the Today screen, I only have 3 items:
- HTC Home
- Calendar+
- TomTom 6
After soft-reset, the TomTom 6 is gone from the Today screen!
However, the setting is still there in the Today setting.
I must uncheck then check again to make the TomTom 6 appear.
Well, I think, I will move the TomTom 6 to the program launcher tab.
Just use TodayAgenda, it's free and it works like a charm....i use the 1.0 Beta with no problems what so ever....
I am now considering to use TodayAgenda, but the display looks complicated (cluttered)
With Calendar+ , I can resize the text as small as possible and display each appointment as compact as possible (single line). So, it is very clean without much of icons.

Touchflo 3D vs SPB Mobile Shell

Hi,
I've read a lot of pros to deactivate TF3D and install Mobile Shell because of the performance, and i was hoping to hear from people theirs pros and cons and i DON'T mean "i like TF3D bla bla" but an explanation too!!
I thinks it's a lot of storage to be used, or can it be installed on the internal memory?!
TF3D lasted about 20 minutes for me, it looks great but didnt really give me what I needed, when I needed it.
I found it dreadfully slow and fairly clumsy ...yes, I know you can tweak it to the N`th degree now, but still seems to be more cosmetic than funtional. Just a thin flash skin over WM6, and it resorts back to WM6 when you have to do more in depth things with the phone.
I guess I was biased towards SPB Mobile Shell though, as I`ve used it on my last 2 phones (Tytn and Tytn II) and love the way it simplifies and speeds up using the phones. It is not just an improvement over the TF3D but also Windows Mobile. Far more user friendly!! (finger friendly)
I have the latest version on my diamond and love the ability to thumb/finger scroll through the options/section just as well as the TF3D, it`s still layed out well, although I don`t like the way they`ve done the frequently used/favourite programs bits... I liked having the start square infact I prefer the layout of the previous version (9 squares rather than the 6 squares and the messy favourites bar at top.)
It doesnt look as lovely and unified as the TF3D but I realise that you can change the theme. It can look a bit garrish with the multicoloured icons .
The now (today) screen is far more useful on SPB as you can add/remove options.. still not as customisable as real today screen (I probably haven`t found all the plugins tho ?)
I would download the trial as see what you think.
I give TF3D a big thumbs down and SPB Mobile Shell a big thumbs up
Hope this all makes some sense / is of some use, as am slightly sloshed *h*i*c* !
Where have you installed the progam files? In the internal storage or RAM (i guess it's called?!))
I installed it on the phone rather than the internal storage, seemed to be plenty of space. Never normally install to the phone area but feel (rightly or wrongly) that it helps running from phone memory ?? Still loads of room and phone flies along. Doesnt seem to as big an issue as it once was.
hi bro,
being an experience user with spb shell, can you kindly share with us with some skins that you are using?
I have the latest version of SPB Shell (though not installed at the moment as just flashed with a new ROM.
I prefer the SPB Shell as it is alot smoother and faster switching between the menus and the main today screen can be configured to give alot more info than the TF3D one.
For those that like to know the weather it gives you a breakdown of what the weather is going to be like at various times of the day rather than just now (I can look out of the window for that) and even the 5 day forecast can be viewed to see the expected weather at various times of the day.
As for skins the default ones that come with it are only different colours but having a choice of colours from scratch is better than the plain TF3D.
SPB Shell is very configurable compaired to TF3D but still not as configurable as some other Today screens unless like th eother poster said it comes in the form of other plugins.
I have it installed to normal phone memory and everythings fine. I haven't tried installing it to the internal memory but figure if I have to reinstall it if I flash a new ROM anyway I may as well make sure that it's cleared for a fresh reinstall.
Deffo one to give a try if you want something other than TF3D - smoother, more configurable, more skin options, ability to add more plugins.
I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
How about battery usage? Any difference there?
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I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
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I agree with you. But where can TF3d Themes be found?
I have found two .theme files that works and easy to set up. O2 Blue and Orange Lite. But it would be nice to get something like the White Diamond
I think its better explained this way:
SPB can house many more functions. If you need your phones apps the whole day long an need to navigate your small system every minute, TF3D is really not the thing. SPB is very good, and takes care of every single corner on your phone. Highly skinnable, and fast.
I tried it, but you know, it's too much for me.
I like a lot of apps, but I don't use em every day. So I want to fast check Email, SMS, or weather, or make a call. For those basic functions I think TF3D is the best. Just grab phone, Thumb-thingy to the right tab and off you go.
I don't need something TF3D cant do. Well, some minor things, like agenda and tasks, but I guess that'll be fixed in a few weeks
I'll vote for the Shell too: I tried Flo, really tried as it looks so good, but found it was just unworkable!
Shell is clean and simple, and fast. Also, I use a P3600i in some situations (such as when I really want to hear incoming call rings) - using Shell keeps me to a common interface.
These are the setting that I use:
TABS Home TODAY Date
Time SPB Shell
Weather Owner
Dial Tab Messaging
Calendar
Fring
SPB Menu Internet IE/Opera + Favorites
No Data
Fring
Internet Sharing
Comm Mgr
Multimedia Media Player
Camera
Pictures
Voice recorder
Album
Tools Task Mgr
File Browser
Rotate
Lock
Profiles
SPB Backup
MemMaid
App to Date
Programmes (auto)
My Menu 1Calc
TomTom
Ozi
Stock Mgr
Best Crypto
FM Radio
Settings (auto)
I run TLR v3 - clean and stable.
Unrelated to SPB Mobile Shell, my final 'make it perfect' was to get rid of the ring delay by:
Diamond Phonepad skin: HKLM -> Security -> Phone -> Skin -> Enable (set 1 to 0), then reset
It all depends on what you do with your phone. I tried SPB Mobile Shell and it worked nicely. Quite happy with it. It's faster and more user friendly compared to TF3D. The homescreen also looks nice and it has a nice feature where you can move your finger in a downward movement from the taskbar to choose between the 3 pages of the shell. Although the Now screen is not very customizable (maybe it is with correct plugins?), the other page u can change every shortcut to programs and such. It's nice, but I don't tweak my Diamond anymore as I used to. I saw the Orange Theme with TF3D and I liked it alot. The analog clock looks great. If you're new with the Diamond and ur tweaking and changing and everything, I suggest you get SPB Shell (or just disable TF3D). But TF3D still looks better (orange theme that is)..
I just need to find a white .tsk theme for wm6.1.. All I see is grey/red/purple/whatever... Goodluck with this..

Managing different profiles under TF3D

Hi everybody,
since one week, I'm the proud owner of a the great HTC Touch Pro.
In the meanwhile I tried nearly every day new software, new themes, new wallpapers and so on, to customize the HTC TP according to my needs.
After I tried various user-interfaces, I came always back to the Touch Flo 3D interface... it's the best for me (according to usability and design), even if there are 2 issues that are still frustrating since I were not able to solve them or find a proper workaround:
1. The home-screen shows only the next appointment and is not customizable to show more than 1 appointment at the same time - even if I scroll down (the clock is getting smaller), there's only 1 appointment shown.
This behaviour is not very satisfying - especially since I'm using my phone mostly for the business.
2. The is my biggest problem: I have a tool called "profiles" - with this tool, you can manage and create different profiles and you can also create a schedule that can switch profiles automatically (I was using this tool already on my old device with windows mobile 5 and it worked great). Especially the schedule-functionallity was very great and I'm looking for a solution that is also working under Touch Flo 3D.
As far as I noticed, profiles is not working with touch flo 3D - the scheduled tasks are not applying and the activation of a profile within the program is not working - I think this tool is only working if you install the plugin on the home screen (of the windows mobile interface).
Since I have no "home screen" in Touch Flo 3D, the tool is not usable for me.
Does anyone here have a comparable profile-tool which works under Touch Flo 3D (with the scheduling option)?
Thank you in advance and sorry for my bad english...
Hey!
As for profile switcher.
I have spent whole day searching i have try almost every single of them most are not free and they are as today plug-in so it sux because if you use TF3D you can't use anyother plugin unless you install Second today. So angry as hell i have pointless shuffle through XDA and...
MIRACLE
i found G-Profile! GREAT FREEWARE!
it can switch profiles according to many rules such as time, schedule, appointment etc. etc. and it have plenty of options.
i also found Phoneweaver but eventually because it's not free i didn't test it ( Had enough of payed software after PhoneAlarm and SPB Phone suite which are only today's plugins... )
WOW !!!!
G-Profile works fantastic!!!
Thank you very much!!!
Now, I just have to find out if there is any possibility to execute the profile-changer from the TF3D Home-Screen (without using one of the soft-keys for that)... that would be the best solution for me!... for example: If I touch on the clock, the profile-changer opens... or something comparable...
I try to find out if there is any possibility and will let you know if somebody is also interested...
I doubt it. Only soft/hard key remaping or program launcher tab.
ageye can do no wrong! Everything made by ageye is awesome. Try out g-light as well to tweak your backlight. I just tried this last night, and it is pretty cool. g-alarm is also a must have.
checker09 said:
... Now, I just have to find out if there is any possibility to execute the profile-changer from the TF3D Home-Screen (without using one of the soft-keys for that)... that would be the best solution for me!... for example: If I touch on the clock, the profile-changer opens... or something comparable... ...
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You could try SSMaPa http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
a manila patcher with which you can reassign other programs to manila programs - also to the clock on the home screen.
I use it for iContact and it works great
Yup ageye soft is great.
G-Profile is great!
Only downside for me: it really, really drains my battery...
aaswouw said:
G-Profile is great!
Only downside for me: it really, really drains my battery...
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That`s absolutely true!
My HTCTP never survived the whole night until the next morning!
Maybe you should also try to reduce the polling intervall that should reduce the battery consumption...
Now, I have only the QuickSwitch enabled and implemented it directly "behind" the clock on Manila 3D (with SSMaPa - see link above) - that means: When I click on the clock an the startpage, the quickswitch window opens and I can directly select my profile!
G-Profile + SSMaPa = The unbeatable solution for windows mobile !

[Q] [REQ] Calendar / Agenda software?

Hi everyone! I have my Raphael since November 2008 (man, time goes fast!) in replacement of a Palm Lifedrive. The PPC sistem is very nice, and I love my phone... the only thing I miss is the calendar/agenda sistem of the Palm OS, where you can separate your meetengs, etc by category and these are showed in the agenda in differents colors. I think this is VERY useful! I now using the GREAT and last version of ENERGY ROM (TP2 Manila xbmod), and this interface have a nice improvement in the TF3D with the CALENDAR TAB, but this "show" a "busy" day only by a white mark, and the WM6.1 calendar doesn´t have any colors to show in the Week or month view. So... my question /request is : Is there any way to tweak the TP2 manila or the WM6.1 default calendar so it could show different colors depending on different categories? or Is there another good software that replace the default agenda and has this feature?
...well , that´s it!, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !
PD: sorry my terrible english.... Chile present in an international forum!
I use pocket informant 8.... better cal app then the default.
SoBBie
Thank you! I´ll give it a try!
There's also Agendus that was on Palm and now is on Windows OS
http://www.iambic.com/agendus/wmppc/
thumbcal is very nice.
Actually if you are using Win. mobile 6.5 you will want to stay away from pretty much every 3rd party app until 6.5 is officially released. none of the 3rd party cal's have the information to update there software and many are creating (in my opinion) big issues with the cal. and the phone.
I was using 6.1 and PI worked great. I also liked SBSH Cal. touch but it was not as robust. BUT now that I upgraded to 6.5 I am trying to stay away from any of them since none fully work with it :'(
Thanks,
SoBBie
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Actually if you are using Win. mobile 6.5 you will want to stay away from pretty much every 3rd party app until 6.5 is officially released.
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This is so true. I tried PI8 and SBSH. Neither worked right. However, Thumbcal is working like a champ.
supersobbie said:
Actually if you are using Win. mobile 6.5 you will want to stay away from pretty much every 3rd party app until 6.5 is officially released. none of the 3rd party cal's have the information to update there software and many are creating (in my opinion) big issues with the cal. and the phone.
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I have been using Agenda Fusion 8 for a few years and find it to be, by far, the most productive app on my phone. It works fine on my 6.5 ROM. I can read and write current and new appointments and tasks with no problems at all. Frankly I was surprised to see that some other apps are not working with 6.5.
If you try Agenda Fusion 8, be sure to give it a good try. It has so much functionality that it takes a while to sort through what you will use and not use. The trial is 15 days. It has a great interface for tasks and appointements. It also has the ability to create templates for new appointments and tasks to speed repetitive entry on the go. The app is stylus based and not finger friendly, but as a business application to manage my Outlook data on my phone, I have never found anything that even comes remotely close, and I have tried several.
There are several that look better, but none that are more productive.
www.developerone.com
Doug M.
Hi,
In order to get an overview of my appointments in different colors I have the following setup:
- I use Oggsync to sync OTA my Google calendars (category is automatically assigned for each calendar)
- I've installed 'Manila Today Page' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102%5C
- On the extra Manila page, obtained from MTP I've put TodayAgenda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2723505, which allows to display all of my appointments, with colors according to their category.
- I use Thumbcal to create appointments for it's 'finger-friendliness'.
dwmackay said:
I have been using Agenda Fusion 8 for a few years and find it to be, by far, the most productive app on my phone. It works fine on my 6.5 ROM. I can read and write current and new appointments and tasks with no problems at all. Frankly I was surprised to see that some other apps are not working with 6.5.
If you try Agenda Fusion 8, be sure to give it a good try. It has so much functionality that it takes a while to sort through what you will use and not use. The trial is 15 days. It has a great interface for tasks and appointements. It also has the ability to create templates for new appointments and tasks to speed repetitive entry on the go. The app is stylus based and not finger friendly, but as a business application to manage my Outlook data on my phone, I have never found anything that even comes remotely close, and I have tried several.
There are several that look better, but none that are more productive.
www.developerone.com
Doug M.
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AgendaFusion looks good but I dont think they ever made it touch friendly ... I will play with it again but pretty sure it is stylus based. PI8 and SBSH both are great for thumb use. PI8 has just as much functionality as AgendaFusion PLUS it has the touch feature which is very nice.
But that is my personal preferance. I want a thumb based organizer. ThumbCal works fine but I use tasks a lot and I dont know if it handles that (dont think so last I checked) but I may also take a look at that one.
Thanks,
SoBBie
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AgendaFusion looks good but I dont think they ever made it touch friendly
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You are absolutely correct. Agenda Fusion is not the least bit finger friendly. For me however, I can use the simple Today screen on 6.5 to see upcomming appointments. But if I really need to spend time with my calendar and tasks, I use Agenda Fusion. It works so well for me, that I do not even take my laptop home or on appointments. Everything I need is accessible through Agenda Fusion.
I did write to DeveloperOne a couple of months ago to see if a newer release is scheduled. They have stopped development becuase they already had so much functionality, there was really nothing left to do. So... no finger friendly versions are headed your way...
If I had a tool to do so, I would post screen shots, but I do not have anything.
Doug M.
Doug,
I am playing with agenda fusion... and yes, it is a good program. But, I would advice you to try PI8 again (wait till Windows Mobile 6.5 comes out and they update it). PI8 has at least as much functionality as AF but they were smart enough to make it touch freindly. I am not saying jump right into it but I would advice you to try it again. if you are still using a 6.1 ROM then I would suggest that you give it a try now... but as I said above if you are on 6.5 dont bother with it yet... but try it as soon as they build a version for it.
Have a great day,
SoBBie

TF3D and Mobile Shell

I keep going back and forth between the two on my Imagio, but I think once we get TF3D 2.5 I'll be able to stick with HTC's software. Question is: Will the Imagio handle it well?
BTW thanks for the resource here!
me too, I have been going back in forth between the current touchflo version on the Imagio and SPB Mobile Shell.
Has anyone come up with a tweak yet for touch flo 3d 2.5 for the Imagio.
SPB MS 3.5 for me
I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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I have been playing with TouchFlo since the first version on the HTC Touch and it is just too much work. I downloaded MS3.5 and I couldn't be happier. It takes up fewer resources and the customization is as easy as dragging and dropping. I use the leisure theme with a five panel widget home screen. You can add picture frames as widgets among other cool items. The contact management is integrated with Facebook automatically and the smart dial is awesome. If I decide I want to do custom icons later, I can get as deep into the xml component as I want.
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See, now, I get the whole "pretty" thing with this shell, but I found it to be just too confusing because it has a lot of redundancies. On the other hand, TouchFlo by HTC is really powerful, but it needs more "clues" to find all of its functionality. Idunno..I just wish we could get this thing hspl unlocked so that the gurus can start cooking up some new roms..
TF3D does not work for me. I need to quickly check email and delete tehm on the fly and access many parts of the phone. Why cant we load the new Sense UIon the Imagio. MS 3.5 is great but the contacts and dialer are badly broken. I cant search for contacts easily by typing parts of the name (only searches file as field) and from the dialer screen you cannot get into the details of a contact to E.G. select an alternate number to dial.
I have been trying both on my new imagio, and am currently sticking with SPBMS3.5. The main reason is that for some reason, the text messaging interface with TF3D messes up my ability to rotate to landscape when replying to a message. I am not sure why...
I have hard reset, and it works for a short period of time, because it seems to be using the standard Winmo texting interface. After receiving a message from a contact, the interface seems to switch to a custom TF3D version, and I can no longer use the landscape keyboard.
Plus I like that I can have virtually all the things I need on a sweetly configured main screen at one tap.
My two cents...
Gary
The folks over at PPCGeeks have unlocked the Imagio! And there are a number of ROMs already ready for flashing. As for TF3D and Mobile Shell, I have found no issues with TF, and with the new Cookies home tabs, its even easier for me. I tried that mobile shell, and there were too many reduntant applications, and by the time I got what I wanted set up, it was several pages between what I really needed and what I needed to go through. That, and after a couple days, my phone started to really get buggy. I finally gave up and went back to TF.
Now, that was before flashing to an Energy ROM. Things are much better now! Check out PPCGeeks HTC Imagio section, several ROMS there waiting for you!
You know I just saw those this weekend and they look very promising! Especially the MaxManilla on the horizon. I am not sure whether to go with Manilla or Cookies...Any thoughts?
As for the TF3D and texting, I did some googling and found the fix. Sorry, but I can't remember, but I think it was on PPCGeeks. Had to add some manilla reg values and change one other and voila! It works now. Still not sure if I like TF3D better than SPB, but I am giving it a shot. What I do like is that SPB can have multiple weather cities. I don't think that I like the 3D mail reader on either app.
Thanks again for the tips.
Gary

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