full screen in pocket informant won't go off - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

hi people! i have installed on my diamond this app: pocket informant... the latest version...
i was exploring the program, and i found there was an option to turn the program in full screen...
the problem is now i can't turn off that option, and pocket informant is always in fullscreen mode, and it's impossibe to access to the menus, editing what we want, exit the program... is real annoying....
does anyone know how to disable that option??
thanks!!!

I have no solution for you how to disable this option.
To turn off fullscreen again, you have to change the registry key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\WebIS\PocketInformant]
"FullScreen"=dword:00000000
Be sure to quit PI before changing the registry key.

You should be able to press a hard key on the phone and it will take it out of full screen.

callmemoe said:
You should be able to press a hard key on the phone and it will take it out of full screen.
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Does not work for the diamond.

Doktor [email protected] said:
I have no solution for you how to disable this option.
To turn off fullscreen again, you have to change the registry key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\WebIS\PocketInformant]
"FullScreen"=dword:00000000
Be sure to quit PI before changing the registry key.
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sorry for asking you that, but how can i change the registry? i never did that, and i really don't know how to do it... do i need to have some program for it??
thatks!! and by the way, do you know if the version 8.5 fixes this problem, witch is really annoying??

Had the same problem. Contacted WebIs and got the following reply
If you do have an issue where its not coming out of full screen mode when it should, then you can fire up a reg editor and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\WebIS\PocketInformant and delete "FullScreen".

Doktor [email protected] said:
Does not work for the diamond.
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It does actually; mapping Button 1(hold) to something (usually left soft key)will drop PI out of full screen mode as advertised.
I've got mine mapped to Comm Manager; if PI has focus in full screen it will drop out of full screen and retain focus, if not in full screen Comm Manager launches

allenf said:
It does actually; mapping Button 1(hold) to something (usually left soft key)will drop PI out of full screen mode as advertised.
I've got mine mapped to Comm Manager; if PI has focus in full screen it will drop out of full screen and retain focus, if not in full screen Comm Manager launches
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i'm here trying to map the buttoms, but i don't understand how to do it...
can you explain me please??
thanks!

Start|Settings|Buttons| 1) highlight the bottom option "Button 1(hold) and 2) select action from the drop down menu...option <Left Softkey> is the recommended but Comm Manager works for me as "dual use".
Button 1, of course, the Call Answer (Send) key...

Had the same problem with my HD2. The registry edit worked like a charm - I just changed the value in Fullscreen from 1 to 0.
Very nice fix.

Related

Remove Calender&Contacts bar

Is it possible to remove to whole bar at the bottom of the home screen? Mine has links to contact & calender, but I just want to remove it since I dont use them at all...
Any ideas?
soft key applet
you can use a program called soft key applet, which is downloadable from the xda ftp site, not sure if you can simply turn these off, but you can assign different programs to them.
I use dcinobar, you can just click the .exe to enable / disable it. I have mine placed in the \windows\startup folder works perfectly.
s4vva said:
I use dcinobar, you can just click the .exe to enable / disable it. I have mine placed in the \windows\startup folder works perfectly.
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nice post, def. gonna try this one out when I get the chance as I never use the on screen soft keys anyway,(plus I know I ain't the only one who can't stand the fact that the home screen plugin from HTC doesn't allow one to scroll down the today screen in landscape mode)and a little extra room is welcomed with open arms. I'm guessing you can still use the soft keys if you want to by pressing the hw buttons on the device right????
cheers
Heres the trick..
It LOOKS a lot better. It makes more of your image available to use.
But wither or not you use the buttons doesnt even matter, because when at the today screen, even if you press those buttons they still work. I use mine all the time, but I dont like the clutter, but it doesnt matter. I just remember what buttons do what, since they still work.
Im adding this to my newbie thread
Thanks!!
This gives the homescreen just a bit more room.
Another nice mod is to remove the iconset for the unlock/com man/etc located above this bar. I used the regedit method using total commander- simply delete the following from your registry:
\\HKLM\INIT\LAUNCH92
This is the key that launches the tray application at boot (To re-enable create the registry key above with the value TrayAp.exe)
Have fun!
morotorium said:
Another nice mod is to remove the iconset for the unlock/com man/etc located above this bar. I used the regedit method using total commander- simply delete the following from your registry:
\\HKLM\INIT\LAUNCH92
This is the key that launches the tray application at boot (To re-enable create the registry key above with the value TrayAp.exe)
Have fun!
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Actually I found the tray icons very useful and actually added my own tray from batterstatus. One touch activation of any of the radio's and various programs makes using the tray very efficient. Plus you can access the tray without even touching the screen so its a win-win in my eyes.
Regarding Neptunes' first post at the top,
"(plus I know I ain't the only one who can't stand the fact that the home screen plugin from HTC doesn't allow one to scroll down the today screen in landscape mode)"
I have spent days looking for a fix/patch for this. Is not having the scroll feature in landscape mode the final answer on this one?
Thanks guys!
Scroll
Go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\HTC Home and change the type to 4.
Poweroff and poweron.
Thanks, exactly what i need.

Remapping hardware buttons

There are several applications which allows you to remap buttons (AE Button Plus, HButton...). If you dont need more than 6-8 shortcuts you should be fine with this. (I prefer this remapping solution because it doesnt require to keep some program running in RAM)
These shortcuts are basically generic but here's what I've found and tested on Wings.
Code:
Shortcut Current App. Remapping
Long_POC.lnk - OK
Long_End.lnk Lock Not tested
Long_Home.lnk - OK
Long_Send.lnk - OK
Short_POC.lnk CommManager OK
Long_Power.lnk Turn Off OK
Long_Pound.lnk Line Switch ???
Long_VolUp.lnk Voice Dial. OK
Long_Camera.lnk Camera OK
Short_Power.lnk Quick App. OK
Short_Camera.lnk Camera OK
Long_VolDown.lnk Voice Notes OK
Long_NonCamera.lnk ??? ???
Short_NonCamera.lnk ??? ???
(NonCamera = POC on some devices. I dont know why is it on Wings but probably because of generic WM keypad map.)
Code:
Key Name Hardware Button
POC CommManager
End End Call
Home Home
Send Send Call
Power Turn On/Off
VolUp Volume Up/+
Camera Camera
VolDown Volume Down/-
How to use...
1. Create a shortcut of a program
2. Rename the shortcut to the shortcut name of a key you want to asign to (TaskManager.lnk to Long_Home.lnk for example)
3. Copy it to \Windows\ directory
Wow! Awesome! Thanks for shedding light on this!
Tested short_power.lnk successfully.
[ADDITION]
IE button: is PIE.lnk + Short_IE.lnk.
About
If you need turn on WiFi, you have to press at least 4 keys by default to start WiFi (using Comm Manager).
After installation of WirelessToggle, just press and hold Comm Manager button to toggle Wifi (on/off). (Alternatively you can use attached exe and assign WirelessToggle to any button / shortcut you want to).
And as always: There are few more programs that can be used for faster turning on/off WiFi but this keeps the RAM free as much as possible.
Installation:
WirelessToggle.cab - just install
Run WirelessToggle.exe (from \Program Files\smartmadsoft\WirelessToggle) manually (just once) before using the shortcut (otherwise you wont be able to confirm dialog window asking you about running unsigned code)
Download:
WirelessToggle.zip (4 kB)
Support:
Tested only on S730 but it should work on other devices as well (will test it later).
Great work moneytoo!
This is real usefull, thanks for sharing!
does anyone know the WM6.1 connection manager (wireless manager in home screen) file name?
wireless toggle doesn't work for me (wm6.1) it removes all wireless settings from the WM comm manager, and swiches wireless off right after I've enabled it.
i need to look into this, whether it will work on a diamond, cause it's hardware button associations are plain stupid...
tuem said:
i need to look into this, whether it will work on a diamond, cause it's hardware button associations are plain stupid...
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Does it work on the Diamond? I'm getting a Touch Pro in a month and I really hope it works...
tuem said:
i need to look into this, whether it will work on a diamond, cause it's hardware button associations are plain stupid...
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What did you find out?
Does it work on your Diamond?
i right clicked on psshutxp.exe and selected create a shortcut.. i renamed file to Long_Power.lnk .. dropped in my windows folder and reset my htc touch pro (cdma) ,,, never asked if i wanted to overwrite anything ...
now when i press down my power button... the same default action happens... it is not running psshutxp....
Remapping headset button?
I'd like to bounce an idea and see if your solution might work for this specific issue.
Seems like the headphone button = green answer button on newer htc systems. If I press the headhpone button twice - I'd like to jump one track forward. Press it three times, I'd like to jump one track back again. Would this be possible to map somehow? That is, multiple key inputs?
Regards.
Has anyone here found a solution for the touch diamond?
Wrong forum m8, this is the Wings smartphone, not the Diamond pocketpc
spone1 said:
Wrong forum m8, this is the Wings smartphone, not the Diamond pocketpc
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I know that this is the Wings forum but nevertheless I would like to know if anybody has found a similar mapping functionality for the HD2... I tested several shortcuts but only long_send.ink seems to work.
For Multibuttonmappingwhatsoever I can recommend HButton as it allows to activate different things depending on how long you press the button. Remapping doesnt really work for me after all, nothing happens..
Hi, I want to remmap Home Button in HTC HD2(Leo). But when I search the link, I can't find anything that mention about home.
Any suggestion? Thx..
R0b3rt2 said:
Hi, I want to remmap Home Button in HTC HD2(Leo). But when I search the link, I can't find anything that mention about home.
Any suggestion? Thx..
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Oooopss.. Sorry, wrong thread.
I'm just too desperate.
For the HD2 unfortunately only the long_send button seems to work. I tested the others mentioned on the first page of this thread but they did not work - at least not by using shortcuts or reg keys (but I did not test any special software as HButton).

TomTom volume control

Hi all,
On my Kaiser, if I forget to unmute my phone before starting TomTom 6, I can't actually adjust my volume. The trick I used with my 8125 was to go to the Today screen and tap the volume control. On the Kaiser, touching the screen brings me back to tomtom, even if the today screen is displayed.
I remember finding a replacement exe for TomTom that unmuted the phone when it started and restored your former setting when you quit, but I can't find it even though I've searched for an hour. Help?
Thanks!
-n.
When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
But I guess it is indeed better if the volume gets adjusted automatically...
Stay0Puft said:
When I forget to turn on the volume, I slide open my Kaiser and press the Fn key together with the folder button (bottom right). From there, you're able to adjust the volume
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??? wats the folder button???
XtreMe_G said:
??? wats the folder button???
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It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.
Same problem for me with my Tilt. But, there's no folder icon on my keyboard to try your suggestion. The only way I've found is to exit TomTom, unmute the phone and start it again.
Anyone find a fix for use on the Tilt?
Stay0Puft said:
It's that "Right Arrow" button. When you first press Fn (bottom left), all the blue symbols on your keyboard can be activated.
There is a blue icon of a folder on the Right Arrow key.
So press Fn and right arrow and you're in Windows again (and able to adjust the volume).
Then use your task manager to get back in TomTom.
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ah, i see, on the tilts, that key toggles wifi on/off
Found it!
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/gps-talk/140969-tomtom-6-volume-override-loader.html
This loader unmutes your phone when you launch tomtom, and restores your mute when you close. (it's smart about restoring the previous state, so it won't mute if you weren't muted before launching tomtom)
Incidentally, I have some useful links in my del.icio.us bookmarks tagged with 'windowsmobile'
http://del.icio.us/osunick/windowsmobile
(disclaimer: I'm a product manager on del.icio.us)
Hitting the phone "Hang up" button works to get back to the home screen.. you can then tap the TomTom icon bottom right to bring it back.
Fully
Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.
Is my Tilt different than your Tilt?
osunick said:
Have you tried this? Getting to the home screen is not the problem, it's that touching any part of the screen, including the volume control, puts you back in tomtom, thus making volume changes very difficult.
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Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.
poisonz said:
Im not sure what you guys talking about.
The FN + Arrow key works.
The hang up key works as well.
I have my windows key set as file explorer that works(perfectly).
Im usingTomTom 6. I cant recall my version.
When Im in TomTom and active my todays page. Tom Tom will minimize at bottom task bar. It lets me change just about anything.
Not sure why you guys has problem, maybe you need to install HTC taskmgr to solve this issue. Because most of my working program will minimize at bottom, so I can have fast access to it.
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This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some b uilds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike
mikechannon said:
This may depend on what build of Tomtom you have. As the OP says with some builds, even when you get to the tgoday screen using Fn buttons, the very next screen tap takes you back into tomtom.
However, as also pinted out above, pressing the red phone key works and you can then change the volume or any other task, BUT instead of returning to it using a Task Manager you just tap the tomtom icon that has appeared in the lower task bar.
Mike
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My Tilt has the original AT&T ROM and I'm running TomTom 6.010.
The trick with the red phone key always minimizes TT6 to the lower task bar. But, I usually get dumped back into TT6 when I tap anywhere on the screen. Sometimes (rarely) it does let me unmute the speaker, but mostly not.
The Fn-arrow trick never works for me.
It's usually easier for me to quit TT6, turn on the speaker and then restart it. Of course, that means I have to wait for GPS to start up again.
mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar
XtreMe_G said:
mikechannon is right, some builds of tomtom allow you to change the volume once you are in the today screen, some builds will just bring you right back to tomtom with a tap on the taskbar.
for the builds that bring you back to tomtom on a screen tap, this is how i do it, hit ok or red phone button to get back to the today screen. when its at the today screen, i press the ie button to bring up ie, then you can tap on the volume icon on the taskbar.
and it doesnt have to be ie, can be just any app, you can even launch anything thats on the today screen, just as long as you dont tap on the taskbar
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Yes! Just tried that trick and it works great... thanks!!!
Anyone know if its the older or newer builds that allow the volume change to work properly?
You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.
osunick said:
You guys should really try that TTLoader app that i linked to earlier. It maxes out your volume and launches TomTom and restores your original volume settings when you leave.
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I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.
gavink said:
I did consider using that app, but am trying to keep the number of running programs down as low as possible. I'm willing to jump through a hoop or two to accomplish that.
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It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.
osunick said:
It's a very lightweight app and doesn't actually take up space in your registry, so it has zero impact when not running and minimal impact when tomtom is running. You should try it.
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Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin
Sadly no, I use either Voice Command or the PTT button to start TomTom.
gavink said:
Okay... you got me! I tried the loader and am hooked on it!
But, here's one for you. I've got a spot on my Today screen with TomTom on it (tap and the program starts). Any way you know of to get the loader to start instead? Maybe I'm missing something very easy?
Thanks!
Gavin
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Great little app, thanks.
Is there any chance of a cab install version ?
So it can be simply reinstalled when I change roms (which I do a lot).
Many thanks for this little app. It saves me getting frustrated, and having to tap on the screen while driving.
Many Thanks
Chris D.

Force Landscape mode?

On the Diamond the screen options under settings do not include the Landscape / Portrait wwitch. Is there any way to force the device to Landscape?
you can force Landscape / Portrait with "WisBar Advance"
Or with QuickMenu...
yeah, personally I have this switch mapped to win-logo long press in QuickMenu
Found this, posted somewhere odd
iliew said:
The Touch Diamond does not show the WM screen rotation under settings so we can't manually set rotation for apps like Word, SMS. Here is how to enable it. After you've done the hack, run the app you want to rotate (eg. Word Mobile), then do Start, Settings, System, Screen to set rotation to landscape. The onscreen keyboard is much larger in landscape! When you click the HOME key it will go back to portrait.
Enable Manual Screen Rotation (Portrait/Landscape):
HKLM - System - GDI - Rotation - HideOrientationUI (change from 1 to 0)
Change is immediate effectively. No reboot is required.
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confirmed, this works.
HKLM - System - GDI - Rotation :
LandscapeFixed: set to "0" ( default is "1" )
extends options to:
Portrait
Landscape (right-handed)
Landscape (left-handed)
cool, thanks - this is handy for me being lefty; any chance of disabling the right-handed option forever?
You can do just what you want using Mortscript...
And the script should run automatically everytime you reboot your device....
czbird said:
yeah, personally I have this switch mapped to win-logo long press in QuickMenu
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i also set this up. works only on home page. f in an app, i get this new never efore seen menu that says \
Copy
Cut
Paste
Select All
Select all + copy
select all + cut
Undo
If we now can activate it from the system eventually we'll get to know how to use the acceleremoter in whole system or atleast in whole TF3D.
woho, nice to hear that the edit menu works on diamond too, cause it's dunno why not working for me. this is great feature of quickmenu allowing you to manipulate with the clipboard whenever you're in an editbox.
It would be nice to have G-sensor to automatically rotates screen in all apps. I'm sure that there is a way, registry entry perhaps.
You can, using this app:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7483.html
Works like a charm
czbird said:
confirmed, this works.
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Hi! I'm new with smartphone ...
I would like to set the rotation on my HTC Diamond. How can I do that?
I must install some application?
in a website I saw .."Using a Registry editor, go to....."
how can I access the Registry editor?
thank you very much!
dehmussi22 said:
Hi! I'm new with smartphone ...
I would like to set the rotation on my HTC Diamond. How can I do that?
I must install some application?
in a website I saw .."Using a Registry editor, go to....."
how can I access the Registry editor?
thank you very much!
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1.) Give Google a try and search for TF3D Config!
2.) go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430174
or
1.) go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492132 (what I did , month ago ...)

looking for a simple button reconfigurator

Hello,
i'm looking for a replacement for AEBplus
I only need a few simple things:
left and right button - should rotate my screen, like it does when i open the keypad
ok button - task manager (or today screen from where i could start the taskmanager)
ok button (long press) - start an application
end call (long press) - lock the device (the you need to enter your password kind of lock)
What program other that AEB can do that and wont use as much CPU resources as AEB does?
you can just go to settings>buttons and assign either keft or right soft key to screen rotate, easiest way IMO
No i cant..there is only the left and right softkey button. Nothing else..and i could not setup a long press this way.
nurps said:
No i cant..there is only the left and right softkey button. Nothing else..and i could not setup a long press this way.
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x1ButtonMapper, already tried that?
cheers
I use AEButon Plus on my X1a and I am thrilled with it. It doesn't have much (if any) negative effect on performance on mine.
Have you tried it on the X1?
Also for End Key there is a program called "Long Press End Key" I think. It is nice, and cooked into a lot of ROMs.
Hannigan174 said:
I use AEButon Plus on my X1a ...
Have you tried it on the X1?
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hi m8, he's trying to replace it with an alternative app...as stated in #1
DrakenKorin said:
x1ButtonMapper, already tried that?
cheers
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Havent tried that yet, can it do what i want?
I guess i could use mortscript for rotation, long press is obviously possible.
But what do i use as fast taskmanager? Can i start the built in taskmanager as application? And what can i use to password lock my device?
Edit: seems i loose the TAB key with X1ButtonMapper and the EndCall button isnt inclueded...thats bad
Is there a way to change some of the keys directly in the registry?
nurps said:
Havent tried that yet, can it do what i want?
I guess i could use mortscript for rotation, long press is obviously possible.
But what do i use as fast taskmanager? Can i start the built in taskmanager as application? And what can i use to password lock my device?
Edit: seems i loose the TAB key with X1ButtonMapper and the EndCall button isnt inclueded...thats bad
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have a look here, didn't check, just searched (doing your homework btw...)
nurps said:
Is there a way to change some of the keys directly in the registry?
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advanced config - menu (button) - more settings - key mappings
Mobile Magic doenst support the buttons i need. No longpress for End and no support for the OK button at all..that was the first program i tried.
To bad the options for the End key are grey in Advanced Conifg.
X1BC should allow for a lot more options than mx X1ButtonMapper. I think there is also a second application from the same author called X1BH or something. Check that out.
X1ButtonMapper is pretty lightweight actually. The most overhead involved will be by calling the script functionality but that is done asynchronous, meaning that X1ButtonMapper doesn't wait for the called application or script to finish - it just launches it.
I didn't remap the red and green phone buttons because they can't be easily remapped and I think they are central buttons which should keep their original functionality. I think remapping them will cause more bugs than you will gain functionality. With X1ButtonMapper you already gain enough options for the remaining keys (each with short and long press) which should be enough for most applications. You can also reassign the missing FN+key combos on the keyboard.
I did use the Tab key as Ctrl substitude because I think Tab is not important for Windows Mobile. It is substituted in most dialogs with the right/left keys so use these. You can get the original Tab function when pressing FN+Tab for the few situations where you really need it.
I am using X1ButtonMapper for a long time now and havn't had any stability issues - maybe that's the trade off for having less features.
X1Button manager somehow didnt react to my OK key. I allready have a standalone taskmanager mortscript could run but Ok didnt do anythink. Longpress of the softkeys to rotate the screen worked nicely though.
Longpress delay is a little longer than im used to but that not a big problem.
The longpress of the End key has allready a keylock function as standard setting (wich i find totally stupid because i turn the device of with the switch on top). There must be a registry setting that i could alter so it would run the password lock instead.
I will check into X1BC...
X1BC works thank you...and i like it much more than X1BM because i can setup everything to my likings, longpress timing, vibration on/off and wether i want a Control key replacement.
I could even use the panel key to lock my device if reprogramming of the end key button is not possible.
Does anyone know wich program i have to run to password lock my device? Maybe its possbile with mortscript..i should check that...

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