I have the Seidio powerd mount with the audio out and mic in. I have used it for about a year and it has worked great.
I just a new car with the bluetooth built into the head unit. When the phone is in the mount the bluetooth go in and out of connection with the car.
Is have opened up the mount and removed all wires from the connector but the 2 power wire, but it makes no difference. Everything works fine when phone is pluged into a regular power cord.
Maybe a software work around ?
Any Help?
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I recently purchased the i.Trek Powered Cradle Mount with Powered Speaker from Semsons (http://www.semsons.com/ipocrmowiins18.html). It arrived today and I wanted to jot down my first impressions. By the way, My Sprint Mogul is running the leaked 3.16 ROM and radio. So, I use the internal GPS for navigation. I bought the cradle/mount so that I could use my Mogul like a TomTom / Garmin / etc.
I purchased the cradle with the standard mounting kit and the RJ-11 to 4mm DC cable. It also came with a car adapter. The standard mounting kit includes 1 windshield mount (suction cup and flexible arm), 1 adhesive disc, and 1 vent clip adapter.
The windshield mounting arm seems very stiff and stable. I could not get the suction cup to disconnect from the window without flipping the release switch. I have not tried the vent clip, but it seems like it would attach to most vent configurations as the clips can attach to vertical or horizontal vents.
I was disappointed to see that the car adapter is not a mini-usb connection. You have to plug the car adapter into the cradle and dock the Mogul in the cradle to charge it. On that note, there is a switch on the side of the cradle that turns the charger on and off so that if the Mogul is fully charged, you can still use the speaker without sending power to the mogul's charging port.
The speaker on the cradle seems plenty loud. Unfortunately, there isn't a hardware volume adjustment for the built-in speaker. If you are driving a loud vehicle, you may have a little trouble hearing the speaker, but in my Buick sedan, I had no problems.
The dock has an RJ-11 port that you can use the included cable with to charge a GPS adapter. It also has an audio-in connection, however, the cradle does not come with a cable or microphone for audio-in. I believe this is a serious omission on i.Trek's part.
When docked, my Mogul played all of its audio through the cradle's speaker. As I said before, the volume was very adequate. However, I could not give any voice commands to MS Voice Command and callers could not hear me. I turned on Bluetooth and used my Jaw Bone headset and got the same results. Audio would come through the headset momentarily, switch back to the speaker on the cradle, and the caller could not hear me.
For some reason, plugging the Mogul into the cradle disables all microphones. I can only assume this is because the phone expects something to be plugged into the audio-in port on the cradle. This may become a serious problem for me as I take a lot of calls from the car. I have to undock the phone from the cradle to make or take a phone call. This is annoying, to say the least.
If anyone knows of a registry hack that will play audio through the speaker, but keep my Bluetooth headset active, please post it here or PM me. I would be very grateful.
I have taken some pictures of the dock and will post them soon. I hope this helps you make a decision about your purchase.
Sorry about the poor quality pics. I took them with my phone (kind of ironic, eh?).
so it does have an audio out and audio in. hmmm. i think you can get the clip on mic from seido for about 12 bucks. i may have to order this and an adaptor (stupid aftermarket proprietary plug required) for my radio and give it a shot.
all in all an external mic may be easier than using bluetooth and cause less of a problem <shrug>.
good luck and thanks for the pics.
Is that RJ11 to dc to power the cradle from a phone jack so you could use it as a charger in say a hotel room?
mogul67 said:
Is that RJ11 to dc to power the cradle from a phone jack so you could use it as a charger in say a hotel room?
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No, they use the RJ-11 cable to charge a stand-alone GPS receiver. It has nothing to do with a land-line telephone.
This thing is a piece of crap.
It takes two hands to get the phone in or out. The sound from the audio output is horrible.
Save your money.
rangie said:
This thing is a piece of crap.
It takes two hands to get the phone in or out. The sound from the audio output is horrible.
Save your money.
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Getting the phone into the cradle is definitely a pain in the neck. If you don't get it lined up just right, it won't dock. You would think they could have fit it to the phone a little better.
I upgraded my XDA IIi Alpine with the Deathnoise ROM. All works well but now there is a strange sound problem.
If anything is connected into the bottom socket then there is no sound from the main speaker, only from the headphone socket.
Even if the other end is not plugged in to anything there is still no sound. As soon as I take it out he sound returns to the main speaker.
I've tried it with a USB sync cable and a mains charger. Sound worked with both before the Deathnoise ROM update.
The update and sound problem may not be linked at all!
I wouldn't be that bothered but not I can't run TomTom in my car and plug it in to the power socket at the same time!
The most likely explanation is a wire has shorted or moved in your power supply cable or the socket and the set now the set thinks it is connected to a car kit. Search the Alpine section of the forum as there is a good reply I remember seeing about the socket wiring.
Its definitely something with the socket on the XDA. I need to open it up for a good look.
Its a pretty annoying problem though. If it had a separate power in socket then I wouldn't to be bothered
How are you guys recharging your HD2's? I've been relying on the USB connector at the bottom of the phone, but my concern is that after 'x' number of connects/disconnects that the socket will wear out as it started doing with my Kaiser.
Do you guys know of any pin-based adapter or battery hatch modification with external contacts that would enable us to lay the phone on a stand or platform without having to use the internal USB port on the phone which will eventually wear out? The 'powermat' would be great, but it's not available for the HD2. Does the new HTC car mount recharge the phone too, or is it just a bracket?
I'm thinking of something along the lines of how bluetooth headsets recharge, where the pins are external. It just worries me that the micro USB connector will eventually fail, which on a $700+ phone is not an attractive option.
Your thoughts?
The connector will not fail. At least unless you force/damage it yourself. It has been adopted as a connection/charge connector on ALL new phones now, of any brand, so you can bet they tested it thoroughly before.
If it fails.. well that's what the warranty's there for.
To answer the original question, I charge using USB, and also an external charger for my spares.
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The connector will not fail.
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I understand your point, but to my way of thinking it's still a physical connector made of metal and plastic. It will fail eventually, trust me. These connectors are tested to withstand a reasonable number of connect/disconnect cycles for the average user. But cell phones tend to get used more, and this phone among other cell phones because of the cpu and screen will need to be recharged even more so.
Also, I'm not talking about the point of failure, but the limit of usability. The connector on my Kaiser got to the point where the cable wouldn't stay lodged in the housing and would drop out of its own weight. Although it still worked, it made for awkward handling while in the car trying to use a coiled charging cable that would drop out on its own.
So what I was looking for was a replacement battery hatch which would connect with the internal contacts, and a corresponding mount/dock of some sort so that it would minimize the physical stress of multiple connections and disconnections.
BillTheCat said:
How are you guys recharging your HD2's? I've been relying on the USB connector at the bottom of the phone, but my concern is that after 'x' number of connects/disconnects that the socket will wear out as it started doing with my Kaiser.
Do you guys know of any pin-based adapter or battery hatch modification with external contacts that would enable us to lay the phone on a stand or platform without having to use the internal USB port on the phone which will eventually wear out? The 'powermat' would be great, but it's not available for the HD2. Does the new HTC car mount recharge the phone too, or is it just a bracket?
I'm thinking of something along the lines of how bluetooth headsets recharge, where the pins are external. It just worries me that the micro USB connector will eventually fail, which on a $700+ phone is not an attractive option.
Your thoughts?
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I just got the car mount today. It Does recharge the phone - there's a mini usb plug built into the bracket, and a lead plugs into the base of the bracket, and then into your 12v socket. A nice touch, the lead is actually long enough to be able to route it nicely.
ebeam said:
I just got the car mount today. It Does recharge the phone - there's a mini usb plug built into the bracket, and a lead plugs into the base of the bracket, and then into your 12v socket. A nice touch, the lead is actually long enough to be able to route it nicely.
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Thanks, but what I was really after is a solution that does NOT involve the USB port on the phone.
I've seen battery chargers on Ebay. That's probably the only sensible solution if you're really that worried about the USB connector...
I think I remember reading something about some sort of wireless recharging pad that you can put phones and mp3 players on that would recharge them without any cables but I've got no idea if it would work on the HD2 or if they are even on sale yet.
There was old HTC CU S400 car Update Kit. It has direct conection to the battery throug back cover http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/#entrycontent. New mount have MicroUSB connection http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=53E28901-63DD-4E93-99F6-BF3D0B88BD04
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There was old HTC CU S400 car Update Kit. It has direct conection to the battery throug back cover http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-cu-s400-car-kit-gets-priced-detailed-coming-december-1360143/#entrycontent. New mount have MicroUSB connection http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=53E28901-63DD-4E93-99F6-BF3D0B88BD04
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Yes, the former is along the lines of what I had in mind. Just surprised that no aftermarket solutions have been developed for the phone to make it easier to charge without wearing out that micro-usb connector.
As the mini USB port is a standard size, (not just used by HTC) if you should ever 'break it', most phone repair shops will be able to replace it quite easily.
A lot less hassle than opening up your phone to plug things in the back.
Hi there,
I just bought an active car cradle for the Htc HD2 (Carcomm), no problem, working as expected.
Then I began wondering why the phone would not go into car mode when connected to the car cradle... If it's a car cradle, it should put the phone into car mode, right ??
So I was wondering what could possibly trigger the phone into car mode when connected to a charger.
Found this in another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767961):
To the person who wanted to know about connecting pins 2&3 to 4 to create a car doc? Looking at the USB spec datasheet It's not that simple. You need to insert a voltage divider across the data lines and tie it back into the 3.2v of the device. A little more trouble than it's worth unless you are doing it for the learning experience.
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and also from user dabigcheezze :
unfortunately it is a problem with froyo, whenever the phone is placed into dock mode, no matter what the charging input, it will only show up charging in usb mode, i have a homemade dock cable with pin 4 to ground, when i hook that up to my 1 amp charger it only shows usb, using a normal cable it shows ac charging, it has nothing to do with the HTC dock, it will happen whenever the phone is placed into dock mode, it also locks the vol output on the 3.5 jack 3/4 up....sooooo stupid.
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Does anyone know about grounding pin 4 to enable car mode ? what about power, is the charger powering enough the phone while using BT, GPS and navigation ? Also, the limitations in Froyo are they gone in Gingerbread or could it be fixed ?
Thank you for sharing your experience, I would really like to have a car cradle working 100%
Nobody ?
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Come on, I'm sure somebody did the modification... or tried to do it
Willing to share ?
Hi !
Just wait I can contact the guy I wish to buy that second hand HD2 first, then find an appropriate car charger craddle, and I'll look for a solution.
Don't know how to automatically enable car mode, but just solder the 2 middle wires in your USB cable together and you'll get 1A instead of 500mA, which charges way faster. Your car charger needs an output of 1A, of course, else it's just gonna remain 500mA.
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Don't know how to automatically enable car mode, but just solder the 2 middle wires in your USB cable together and you'll get 1A instead of 500mA, which charges way faster. Your car charger needs an output of 1A, of course, else it's just gonna remain 500mA.
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, it's true. I've seen this small hack to enable AC charging for cheap chargers that are charging with USB mode (400mA I think).
My charger was good enough to provide AC charging (1A), which is great, but not enough to enable the car mode...
What I would like to confirm is if grounding pin 4 will really put the phone in car mode when plugged into the car cradle, before doing it myself...
Do not hack the hardware!
Use a software
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8178010
Thank you for your response.
But... is it a software for windows only ?
I run Android on my HD2
Unfortunately, the software only runs on Windows Mobile :-(
So you have to try that:
http://translate.google.at/translat....cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73&p=1037#p1037
seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx0zPFQtyxs
I personally ordered the original car holder from htc and it is really a very good one!
Excellent !!
I think that if the mentionned modification works with a HD2 AND a Desire HD, the official Htc android software should work also, like the windows software in the video.
Thank you, it's great ! I will post here my results when done
Even easier - try using PhoneWeaver (can't add a link as a noob)
It's basically an app for setting your phone's parameters, based on all sorts of external influences, such as time, date, power source etc.
So, for example, I have the following settings:-
6:15 am - turn phone on, set volume to Normal
8:15am - set volume to low (for when I'm in the office - its a personal mobile)
4:45pm - set volume to Normal
6:45pm, turn wireless on (as I'm at home, and browsing is much faster)
10:00pm - turn phone / wireless off, set volume to low, start SPB Time (my alarm clock)
Additionally, I have the following:-
If external power is detected AND Activesync isn't running (ie it's not connected to a PC) then turn on Bluetooth and increase volume (this is because the only other possibility for this environment is when its in the powered car cradle)
If external power is detected AND Activesync IS running, turn Bluetooth off, but turn wireless on
It's completely brilliant - never fails and I never have to remember to do anything
I just purchased a new car stereo (JVC kd-r730bt). I knew it wouldn't be able to access my HD7's media through the USB, but the salesperson told me that I should still be able to charge through it. (The booklet specifically mentions the usb provides 5V 1a for charging.) But it won't charge when I plug it in. The port itself seems to be working because it will charge my ipod and the HD7 must be getting some juice because it will turn on if it's off when I plug it in, but I don't get the charge indicator and my battery level never goes up.
I thought it might just be my unit or a problem with the install, but I had the same problem when I went and tried it on the display unit in the store. The sales guy was at a loss. The only thing we could think of was maybe the unit doesn't have the right volts or amps for the phone? However another sales guy told me that most chargers are 1a and that shouldn't be a problem. And I called JVC and HTC customer service and neither of them thought that would be the problem either. Does anyone know what the issue might be and if there's any fix/work around for it?
By the way, I was able to charge the phone using the same USB cable with a different car stereo display unit (Pioneer deh-6400bt). I also charge just fine off a computer usb using that cable.
On the bright side, the JVC streams music beautifully from my HD7 over bluetooth. I'm glad I got it over the Pioneer even with the charging issue since the Pioneer only does phone calls over bluetooth not media.
HD7 won't charge from car stereo USB...
...no it won't...it's not a ipod (thanks god)! buy a bluetooth car stereo...
Maybe u got some cigarette ash in ur car lighter pot , my car got that problem .
I fixed it by clean it ....
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maybe he got flat battery, my car got this problem ,
i fixed it by getting new battery
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