Motherboard replacement - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hey everyone,
I got my Tilt in April and at that time AT&T did not offer phone inssurance for it. The far right side of my mini-usb port is bent a little and this makes it a bit picky about charging and syncing. AT&T said it voided my warranty and that they couldn't do anything and told me to call HTC and they said I would have to replace my WHOLE MOTHERBOARD. They also said it would cost $305 to replace the whole thing.
My question: is there anything I can do about this myself? I am so concerned because I would like to sell this to a friend but get the port fixed if possible. Is there any other way to get AT&T to get me a new tilt or fix "something else wrong with it"? I can still sell it to my friend but I could get a bit more for it if this was fixed.
Thank you for any help.

You can fix this yourself by installing a new mini plug, they are fairly cheap, there is a few threads that have discussed how to do this yourself , if you do not mind taking apart your tilt...
Check the Wiki out as well

Or maybe I could have just been rude and told you to search just like you did to another user earlier...hmmmm

That was a fairly obvious question. I have not been able to find any specific threads about this for the kaiser. Also did not find it in the wiki. But it would be easy to over look seeing as I must type all this from my phone because my computer is dead at the moment. I will look tomorrow at school.

put in mini plug in this forums search , there are a couple of threads with decent info in them.. one of them has a link to taking the kaiser apart, and also has a link to a place the has the mini plug for $15 and also will says they will install it for $79....not bad if you do not have the skills..

PPC Techs are the ones offering the service
http://www.ppctechs.com/HTC-Kaiser_971/repairs/Sync-Connector-Repair-Service_633-373.htm
Since my soldering skills suck, this is what I would do...

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Broke Tilt in half

So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
wshader said:
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.
wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.
Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.
Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.
@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.
Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize
Planetneo said:
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
Mysterious Stranger said:
I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
Planetneo said:
Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S

have any one experienced this !

you know the only us port in the kaiser where you charge and where you connect it to the pc. when you first buy the kaiser it would be wonderful then couple months later ..it becomeshappy and doesn't work as good. it starts either rocking or the "teeth" inside start to move that will cause problems with connections and charging.
same thing happened to me with my universal so I threw it away ..but I love this kaiser I have what would be another alternate solution ? please I would appreciate your help.
Yes this is fairly common with this phone. Normally service is suggested.
Warranty FTW!
Just be careful when your plugging and unplugging the device. i.e. take it out and put it in straight, not at any angles.
If you search broken miniusb you'll find several threads. One is of mine when it broke. It was charging in the car and dropped and the "male" part of the extusb on the phone cracked.
I went to an At&t service center, the guy looked at it, told me its frequent and handed me a new device.
that's the problem ...I bought it over ebay
Here ya go...
http://www.ppctechs.com/AT-T-Tilt_974/repairs/Sync-Connector-Repair-Service_633-373.htm
oh wow..thanks man!
I was looking all over the place and not near me..
I never thought that at&t might have a technical support department..
but that's wonderful.
I know it's a little expensive but i't worth it when you can't live without your ppc.
Ninlour said:
oh wow..thanks man!
I was looking all over the place and not near me..
I never thought that at&t might have a technical support department..
but that's wonderful.
I know it's a little expensive but i't worth it when you can't live without your ppc.
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<< Plug alert >>
PPC-Techs is not AT&T technical support, but I highly recommend them. I have used their screen protectors on my devices since my Ipaq 1900. Their customer serices is excellent.
I just had the mini usb replaced on my Tilt by PPCTechs. HTC wanted over $350 to repair. PPCTech was about $75. Excellent service and high speed.
www.ppctechs.com
thank you sooo much guys ...I'm probably going to look for the HTC Universal and send it to those guys too!

Fixing broken Mini USB Port

So I recently broke my mini usb port when trying to fix the pins so it would work with my car charger. The first time I did this it worked flawlessly, but when I did it again the 5th pin broke. I know you can buy a replacement piece for like $5, but how hard is it to fix yourself? I talked to my dad who used to be an electrical engineer and he said you need a special soldering gun to install it. Is this true? If so, would it be like around $100 to have someone do? Also, does anyone know if a computer repair store could fix it? I have had my phone for about a year so I believe the warranty is gone since I didn't get an extended one. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Problem fixed
I had this same problem with my at&t tilt, broken usb port. I search the web and found a company called pocketpctechs.com. Order the sync connector repair service which is around $80. i sent them my phone and they fixed my problem hopefully this is helpful.
80 bucks? ow ._.
this happened to me a while back. Found ppctech and place my order as well. just went down there and dropped my phone off since it was close by. Picked it up the same day. Price is kind of steep, but couldnt find anything else. Tech who fixed it asked me if I like the modded rom I had on it and he was thinking of puting it on there too. lol
Thanks. I would prefer to take it to a shop because I can't be without a phone for a couple days. Could a computer repair shop do this kind of work if I bring in the part? I got one of those local.
why dont you ask that shop if they will be able to do it?

Kaiser can't find sim card

Hello guys, I've got quite weird problem. Today morning, I tried to run android on my Tilt, but when I've done flashing, my phone couldn't find sim card (which was in it). I thought it was maybe ROM problem, so I've changed it to another and it was the same. Phone couldn't find sim card which was in it. Okey, I tried to change sim to one from another operator and was still the same... At last, I reflashed my kaiser to Win Mobile 6.5 (shifu 4.3 ROM, best for me) and it's all the same! It didn't crash or something like it, so I think it must be software problem.
What do you think guys, why it can't find sim?
Actually, I've got shifu 4.3 ROM, Radio 1.70.19.09 and HardSPL 3.29.
What shall I do to get it back to work?
Waiting for your advice.
//Edit: found a solution to this, searching the forum. I´ll try it and then say if it works.
ive got the same issue, let me now what u did to fix if u get it working
I tried to put a tape on my sim card to get it better connecting to the port, but it isn't still working... I read all topics about not working sim, but I haven't found real working answer. Can someone say what exactly should I do to make it working (without getting it to service)?
why without getting it to service?
some things are just hardware failures and no software can fix them. i have personally had this problem. read the FIRST page of the kaiser general forum and you will see at least 2-3 such threads. this is a common issue because of the moving parts in the kaiser. if the do-it-yourself tricks aren't working, then it is very very likely a fault in the main flex cable as detailed in the threads i am mentioning.
Yeah, I've seen that and it's really getting me down...
Why not? Just because I had a issue with not contacting usb port, I got my kaiser to service (not original, just something like "buy-sell phones service) and it costed me about 120zł (it's 30 euro, on that current). It wasn't done good. If I had a required stuff to solder it, I'd done that by myself. Next, my kaiser falled off my knee, when I was playing my guitar and writing an sms (I mean, I had guitar on my chest and I was writing sms in the same time) and slider works only in one place (not two - right and left, just only right). I tried to repair it, but it's just torned plastic and I can't do anything with it.
Now, sim card reader has f*cked up... I don't 've got enought money to pay for all things to do with my Tilt, so I think I'd lie down in my drawer...
Goodbye kaiser, hlip... ;(
Maybe, later, I'd buy G1 .
sorry to hear about the entire story. i used my tytn2 for a full 2 years. i had the main flex cable repaired last month and my repair guy also did a poor job. he put in a tilt's main flex cable, so my sim started working again. BUT! he didn't notice that the tilt does not have a front cam. so now my tytn2's front cam does not work.
i used the repaired tytn2 just fine for the past month. i just got an hd2 yesterday because i couldn't resist!
but it was worth having my kaiser repaired because now i can sell it. if i did not have it repaired, no one would want to buy a phone whose sim card doesn't work!
Yeah, I used my for about 1,5 year, but it's second hand phone - it was used by my friend for about year. How much did you pay for that repair? Just wanna know what prices are for that .
HD2... Man, you've got world's controlling center in your hands!
Congratulations .
I'm thinking of selling my kaiser like "sim not working, just for parts or to repair!", but I'll wait for the price in service.
i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.
ASCIIker said:
i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.
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Definitely you have a good deal with your kaiser....

Need Parts for Nexus One

I cracked my screen so I decided to order a new one and fix it myself, while in the process I accidentally tore the top flex circuit board and now I can't find spare parts other than screens anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get some or have one that is broken I am willing to pay ...
Hate when **** like that happens. . . try to fix something and something doesn't go right.
Not sure where you can get the parts you're looking for, but wanted to give props to you for taking the initiative to try and fix it yourself. Alot of people will be like "that's what you get for not just sending it back to HTC and having them fix it." How're you going to appreciate the intricacies of something if you don't take the occasional risk like this?
Hope you find what you're looking for.
Ps. Have you looked at http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp to see if there's anything you could repurpose to work?
Ha yea, I am definitely a DIY-er. Unfortunately this is a risk I knew I was taking heading into it, wasn't too worried though because I have fixed a lot of cell phones in the past, just got a little too careless with prying open with a flat head screw driver, it slipped and cut right into the flex circuit board. Should have been a little more careful haha. New screen looks great though! Now only if I could get it to power on! Of course HTC tells me it will cost up to $300 to send it to them to fix it.
http://www.lunacommerce.com/154-nexus-one
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7921c16b7b46096e&hl=en
Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
Yea I tried that number and also that lunacommerce site is located in China, no prices on their website, no way to purchase anything other than contacting them first (which I have tried to no avail...). You would think some online store somewhere would have started selling spare refurbished parts. Whatever, guess I will have to pay HTC to fix it, kinda sucky.
If you find somewhere that can help you, please post back. I just had a similar experience, replaced the digitizer and the display wouldn't work afterwards. Figured I had damaged the AMOLED, so purchased another. Problem still persisted.
I've decided that I must have damaged the AMOLED connector on the logic board.
The upside is I can still use the phone when connected to a PC and using Android Screen Monitor.
So now I've ordered another Nexus One, I find it hard to get by without my daily Android.... it became an expensive drop of the phone.
Kman Gymrat said:
Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
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No that is what I replaced in the first place. I am looking for the Logic Board. I will keep searching and update this thread if I ever figure it out. Going on 3 days without a phone and only being able to use Google Voice via my computer is starting to drive me insane!

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