HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
blackspawn2 said:
HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
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I'm probably out of date with some of my figures here, but as I understand it the Kaiser limitations are 3.6Mbit/s download and 384kbit/s upload - originally designed using HSDPA chips and limited with hardware. The HSUPA upload theoretical maximum is 5.76Mbit/s, but is limited to our 384kb/s so no point pushing the boat out for this anyway.
Besides, why go for a mega fast upload speed when the Kaiser doesn't have enough memory capacity to require that sort of upload (<45 secs to dump the whole phone + 16MB card) - unless of course you've got some really good porn that you need to share in a few microseconds before deleting
I found an old 3D where was written that the chip is HSUPA compatible. Whether or not it is enabled in the phone may simply be a matter of a hack.
Well,...maybe the 3D is much too old, forget it!
i agree with peterfnet
peterfnet said:
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
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To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
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To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
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This is exactly what I was thinking
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
benjat said:
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
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I am running the Hyperdragon III january 13 rom.
in the settings under advanced network the is a option to enable HSDPA/HSUPA. Just thought i would let you know this rom has that option.
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Thought I would share, just so people can see that the Kaiser does get a good throughput as long as in a supported area.
Maybe I missed something in the board, but for me a working hsdpa is normal...
Sweet, I wish they would crank up the speed by me. 1mb/sec is still pretty good for me.
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Maybe I missed something in the board, but for me a working hsdpa is normal...
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I was not saying HSDPA was not working, just people have been saying they are getting sub 1Mb/s speeds, I was just showing that proper high speed is available if you are in a supported area was all.
Hello,
what are the differences between the two Chipsets in the Rhodium and the Rhodium W?
Thanks!
chris.computerfreak said:
Hello,
what are the differences between the two Chipsets in the Rhodium and the Rhodium W?
Thanks!
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I guess the MSM7600 is CDMA whilst the MSM7200 is GSM?
EDIT:
MSM7200 is GSM only
MSM7600 is GSM/CDMA dualmode, which would explain why the Sprint Rhodium FCC listing says it's got GSM disabled...
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7600&c=qualcomm_msm7600
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200&c=qualcomm_msm7200
The AT&T GSM band version says: MSM7201a
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/2032864/
I really fancy a TP2 and I may be reading this completely wrongly, but . . .
my Touch Diamond has a MSM7201A processor which is newer than the processor in the TP2 and is 65nm technology, whereas the MSM7200A is 90nm
Have HTC done some form of tweaking to give better performance from the TP2 because if not it doesn't sound like a considerable upgrade on what I have now
utvol06 said:
The AT&T GSM band version says: MSM7201a
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/2032864/
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Look at that link, the last sentence at the bottom in red...
"WM 7.x refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date"
This is exciting me. Is this hinting for Windows Mobile 7 this year September?
stunno said:
I really fancy a TP2 and I may be reading this completely wrongly, but . . .
my Touch Diamond has a MSM7201A processor which is newer than the processor in the TP2 and is 65nm technology, whereas the MSM7200A is 90nm
Have HTC done some form of tweaking to give better performance from the TP2 because if not it doesn't sound like a considerable upgrade on what I have now
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MSM7201A is not newer than MSM7200A. They are the same generation processor. non-A is 90nm, A is 65nm. 0 is original chip, 1 is with patent workaround. 0 outperforms 1, patent workaround introduced some performance issues.
Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A.
TP2 = much faster than TP (probably mostly related to tweaks we had in our custom ROMs anyways, and faster flash and ram chips).
Why do I need to keep telling people this....
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Look at that link, the last sentence at the bottom in red...
"WM 7.x refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date"
This is exciting me. Is this hinting for Windows Mobile 7 this year September?
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This is a typo, should be WM 6.x refresh, i.e. 6.5, which has been said to be released on actual phones in September for ages now.
By patent workarounds, may I hopefully assume it's concerning the hardware video acceleration part? If so, may I also hopefully assume the TP2 has some built in use of that part of the chipset??? Please.... My old HD is getting wore out and I need an excuse to upgrade
Thanks Chainfire... many respects...
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...0 is original chip, 1 is with patent workaround. 0 outperforms 1, patent workaround introduced some performance issues.
Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A.
TP2 = much faster than TP ...
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SomethingWicked said:
By patent workarounds, may I hopefully assume it's concerning the hardware video acceleration part? If so, may I also hopefully assume the TP2 has some built in use of that part of the chipset??? Please.... My old HD is getting wore out and I need an excuse to upgrade
Thanks Chainfire... many respects...
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The patent issue AFAIK only has to do with some 3G stuff (I don't know how this relates to the performance issues of the 1 variant, though, I know there is something with that). Still TP2 does have HW 3D video - but so do the Diamond, TP, HD, and Diam2. The TP2 (and TD2) is noticably faster than the HD, though.
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The patent issue AFAIK only has to do with some 3G stuff (I don't know how this relates to the performance issues of the 1 variant, though, I know there is something with that). Still TP2 does have HW 3D video - but so do the Diamond, TP, HD, and Diam2. The TP2 (and TD2) is noticably faster than the HD, though.
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Actually, it would have been better if you could put some references about your comments. Especially this one: "Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A."
It seems you're right about patent issue (though it is hard to find anything about that), I found this site: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2140146/tag1202114pagenews1tQualcomm-Launches-UMTS-Chipsetsd578, which says:
" In December 2007, US federal judge issued an injunction against Qualcomm for infringement of three Broadcom patents and ordered it to stop selling 3G wideband code division multiple access (WCDMA) cellular chips that breach Broadcom patents. The company has launched the mobile station modem (MSM) 6271, MSM6281, MSM7201 and MSM7201A chipsets in the US. According to the company, the new chipsets are pin- and software-compatible with the existing product versions for easy transition. "
So if the site i'm referecing is reliable, then you're right about this.
But where did you get the info about the 65nm? Could you give us some references? The only site I found (where the size is mentioned) is this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a and it says it is 90nm.
What's more interesting that on this site: http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html#Technical Features It says: "Qcamcorder™: Record up to 24 fps QVGA"
Meanwile here: http://pdfserv.datasheetpro.net/QUALCOMM/msm7200a_chipset.pdf
"Qcamcorder™ Encoder
• A real-time wireless video recording solution that captures movies at 30 fps WVGA"
(this datasheet - by the way - mentions lots of interesting infos)
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Actually, it would have been better ...
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Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
EDIT: BTW, seems I didn't mention it in this thread - I did in another - it does indeed seem that the US TP2 (non-Sprint, which will use MSM7600 series) is MSM7201A, while the EU (and possibly Asia) versions use MSM7200A.
Did you guys forget Xperia X1? It also uses the same processor like the Touch Pro2.
A thread like this has been discussed in X1 forum. Sadly, it seemed like X1 has the worse performance of them all...
netsurfz said:
Did you guys forget Xperia X1? It also uses the same processor like the Touch Pro2.
A thread like this has been discussed in X1 forum. Sadly, it seemed like X1 has the worse performance of them all...
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Most of the performance gains are due to faster RAM/Flash ICs, not the processor.
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Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
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Yeah.. what I expected.. Layman...
Chainfire said:
Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
EDIT: BTW, seems I didn't mention it in this thread - I did in another - it does indeed seem that the US TP2 (non-Sprint, which will use MSM7600 series) is MSM7201A, while the EU (and possibly Asia) versions use MSM7200A.
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And in just a few short hours i'll have mine in my grubby lil hands hehehe....
GOT TO GET ME DAT ANDROID NOW
[and its sprint - yey yey new cpu]
btw found some interesting things here:
http://www.datasheetpro.com/node/50272
gives some details on the 7600 chipset - very nice diagrams and whatnot
After having tried out a few ROMs (none recently) I am somewhat disappointed with my Diamond's performance. I am tired of waiting for my menu pages to finally appear after selecting them, I don't feel the urge to keep on trying out new ROMs until one is maybe 10% faster than the original.
Is there any ROM/UI solution that is really fast and immediately makes my phone display what it is supposed to? What about other TF versions/substitutions?
Besides speed, my only requirements are absence of annoying bugs and a slider/hw-buttons-only option to accept/reject calls.
Could you guys please give me a recommendation? What was the fastest solution you encountered? Thanks in advance.
Mmmm....
That all depends on what you call fast. The device will never perform like current devices. The only speed increase I've noticed after trying many, many ROM's is with TF3D2. This is way quicker than the original TF3D shipped with the Diamond, but as for the general day to day operation, none of the ROM's in my opinion, are any quicker than any other.
Sure, chef's comment on lightening this, and speedy that, but at the end of the day, we're stuck with what that crap OMAP processor can handle. Bring on the Snapdragon powered devices!
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
Ooops!
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the cpu is an MSM7201A which got an ATI Imageon gpu integrated into it
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Sorry... my apologies! I was thinking of the original Touch! You're quite right, the Diamond has a QUALCOMM processor
Graphics...
Affenpeter said:
I remember reading something about the CPU taking all the load for graphics processing. Is there a dedicated GPU and wouldn't appropriate drivers for its usage speed things up? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe that 64MB of the onboard 192MB are dedicated to graphics processing. Drivers may come in to it, but whether updated drivers would make a huge speed difference is debateable!
Was curious as to was speeds people are getting when running this app.
On zen's mytouch rom I consistently get >1200 kbps down while on the sprint rom I am getting < 850 kbps down...
On both I get about 600-700 kbps up
I don't understand because I didn't think a rom would affect data speeds.
Can people post their speeds, and if any devs have insight on why the significant speed difference, please enlighten me.
Id expect to see this in dev from a noob, but I certainly didn't expect to see this from you Looney.
VinceOB said:
Id expect to see this in dev from a noob, but I certainly didn't expect to see this from you Looney.
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lol... i said the same thing after posting... but I can't move the thread myself
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thanks... brain fart on my part
it varies pretty greatly but highest was 1452 up and 765 down.
lowest was 456 down and 531 up.
I've always gotten great speed here in Atlanta. I am using Zen's rom and it seems once I switched to this rom, my speeds increased dramatically from the sprint release rom for 2.1.
2151 Down and 646 Up Highest
1751 Down and 711 Up Lowest
I'm getting constant 1400 d/l and 8 - 900 u/l on Zen's ROM
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Here in Austin, I probably average around 1000 up and 600 down.
I have a question. What does everyone get on wi-fi? I ask because my wi-fi is never any faster than my 3G. I've always wondered if there is something wrong with the wi-fi on my phone, because I believe it should be much faster.
Wi-fi speed examples anybody?
On 3g in Kansas City I got 1099/730, and on wi-fi I got 3033/559.
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OK, moved out of my basement, and now I got 2002/667 on 3g, 2951/551 on wi-fi. My broadband is capped at 512 up.
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When using jellybean Roms, with every jellybean rom I have tried they are all stuck on Hsdpa 8 which is slow ,, when I am on Gb and Ics when I go into settings about phone it always states network as Hsdpa 11, but when I am on jellybean Roms it always states Hsdpa 8 , what is this all about? how is that possible? is it a bug on jellybean and will it affect data speeds? I have tried different radios and tried a streaming app to see if it rises when needed, it does not, tethering is awful and slow, I expected more from jellybean but its seems like 2 steps forward 3 steps back, limiting the network to Hsdpa 8 is a complete fail.
Well it seems this problem is quite widespread and other have had the same problem, its a real shame as jellybean is really smooth but if using this ROM means being stuck on hsdpa 8 then for me that's not a option, if anyone knows of a fix to up the category please let us know.
The max data speed the i9000 can handle is 7.2Mbps. HSDPA category 8 supports speeds up to 7.2Mbps and category 9 is 10.1Mbps. So even if it says 9 it doesn't mean we can get up to those speeds.
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To be honest that's if the HSDPA: 8 in the settings menu even corresponds to the HSDPA categories, which I'm not sure about. Best thing to do would be internet speed benchmarks on both gingerbread and jellybean then compare.
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That is not entirely correct. Its not just about the theoretical speed and besides I'm not convinced those specs are accurate. In order to support hsupa of 5.76 it would need to support hsdpa 9 .hsdpa 9 supports multiple duplex connections. I have done multiple speed tests on both category 8 and 9 and 8 is roughly 1.5 to 2 mbps slower.