Transferring Data & Apps from old memory card to new memory card - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi,
Sorry - I wasn't sure which forum was the best for this post...
I have a HTC Tytn II and have just bought an 8GB Micro SDHC card, and I'm about to replace the existing 1GB card in my phone now.
The only tutorial that seemed relevant is: http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/tutorials/sd_to_sd.htm.
I have some questions:
How do I do it?
Will I be able to copy not just 'data' but 'apps' that have been installed on the card?
Any caveats? Warnings? Gotchas?
I have a card reader in my laptop - but it may be too old for SDHC cards... I'll find out soon.
You help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Prembo.

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As far as I know...Drag and drop....see what didn't in stall and see what did...apps??? hmmm..Active sync should do the trick...pm me if you still need help.
Peace
Mike

You will need a flash memory reader/writer for the PC that is SDHC compliant. The 1GB card is not HC but the 8GB card is HC. Older reader/writers are not HC capable. You will then copy the 1gb card to the PC and then copy from the PC to the 8BG card. I don't think the Tilt will even be aware of the switch.
Edit: I just read Mike's reply above and yes, that will work too. Sooner or later you are going to need a reader/writer anyway though.

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A card reader will transfer data faster then device to pc....a reader will work fine too...remember...to use active sync...if you have it ...or mobile device center.
Peace
Mike

Thanks guys,
Will let you know how I go. Trying to copy via ActiveSync.
PS. My card reader on my laptop didn't like the micro SDHC :-(

you can just copy everything over from one card to the next. i usually keep a backup of my 4gb card on my computer, and also carry another backup card with me.
haven't tried it the activesync way though. i use a sdhc card reader. i dont' know if the activesync way will convert files that shouldn't be converted or what not.

I did a drag and drop, but my home computer was locking up (while synced), I tried using the reader on my work computer, but it kept locking up. (same situation, bought a 8gb from worst buy for $29 !!!!)
so, now, my home computer will no longer sync, and i swapped back to my 2gb card (at least my work computer will still sync), I will work on the home computer syncing issues when I get home, but so far for me, the 8gb card has been a disaster.

Related

Anyone has problems with 2 gig SD card in their 8125?

Everytime i insert my card it asks me if i want to format it to make it readable? - even though i formatted it in my computer. Also i cant write anything to it when my 8125 recognizes it in a slot. The cars is SanDisk so it should be a good quality.
I'm using a 2GB SanDisk card with no trouble at all. I _didn't_ format it on my PC but rather used it straight out of the box.
Do you still have the same message if you let the 8125 format the card?
i tried doing that and it says that the phone cannot recognize the card.... the weird thing is that the card goes in crooked and the fit isnt perfect i have to push it in hard.....
Quite a few people reporting a problem like this - seems to be fixed with sktools or storage tools (google them demos allow you to format - install on device) and format card on device to fat16.
meschle said:
Quite a few people reporting a problem like this - seems to be fixed with sktools or storage tools (google them demos allow you to format - install on device) and format card on device to fat16.
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I have the same problem before, i tried to format it to fat16 and the 2gb minisd was recognized as 1gb instead of 2, tried every solution from getting compatible version of a card reader to re-format using fdisk via DOS., Called the manufacturer and they we're happy to replace it. They advised that it should be re-formatted as fat only and not fat16 via DOS using the card reader.
good to know as i just bought a 2gigger.
The problem is that you formatted it on your PC. USe SKtools to format it on your device and you should be all set. I think the demo version of SKtools allows you to do this stuff.
i use my 2 GIG since i bought the phone almost 4 months ago without any hassle.
Just used the card out of the box without formatting it.
This issue is reported several times and is caused by using a not compatible cardreader on the PC to format the card.
A lot of the (even usb 2.0!!) cardreaders is not capable of reading over 512MB memory cards. If you use a 1Gb or 2GB card on such a reader it will probably say the card is not formatted. WHEN you do format the card using that reader, you wil make it unusable.
:arrow: Make sure you format the card via a compatible cardreader to avoid this.
:arrow: If you get a 'card not formatted' message, try to read from / write to it in your device first (before attempting to format)
Just got my 2GB card....MDA won't read it.
Camera won't read it.
PC can read it. It was Fat32, I reformatted it to Fat...still a no go in the phone or camera, but works on the PC....what gives?
Just got my 2GB card....MDA won't read it.
Camera won't read it.
PC can read it. It was Fat32, I reformatted it to Fat...still a no go in the phone or camera, but works on the PC....what gives?
I have a SanDisk 2Gig card. It worked fine right out of the package. Haven't had any problems with any of the ROMs I've run on my 8125.
-Scott
my 2GB card works fine, except for the fact that it's stuck in there.. i need to tak it apart and fix the spring loaded latch somewhere in there..
I got a 2GB from Amazon: OEM 2GB MINISD Mini Secure Digital (SD) Card but it did not work on my Cing 8125.
TopRam
I have been using a 2GB miniSD made by TopRam. Works in the 8125 and with my USB card reader no problem since day one. 8125 recognizes the entire 2 gigs (well minus just a few bits...about 99% of the card). Got it off eBay while I was waiting for the phone in the mail. Never needed formatting or anything..worked straight from the package. I was a little worried at first that it wasn't one of the "well known" brands of cards, but there have been no problems whatsoever.
I'm using the Transcend 2Gb 80x MiniSD. Works like a charm.
Keep in mind that SLC flash chips (mainly made by Samsung and a.o. used by Transcend and Mobymemory) have longer lifetime, are faster and consume less power than MLC flash chips. Disadvantage is that SLC is more expensive. Bought my 2GB for approx 62 euros.

Questions on MicroSD

Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
gregwhitehouse said:
Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
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1. yes
2. ??
1. Thats what I have
2. Broken card, throw it away?
Hmmm
1. Been running that for a while.
2. Make sure your PC Reader can support MicroSD before deciding that the PC can't read it (hint - putting the microSD card into the Sandisk larger shell does NOT make it a regular SD card). If you are POSITIVE your computer can read a MicroSD card, and it doesn't register, then toss the card.
jdmba said:
2. Make sure your PC Reader can support SDHC before deciding that the PC can't read it (hint - putting the microSD card into the Sandisk larger shell does NOT make it a regular SD card).
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Corrected above - the adapter DOES turn a MicroSD into an SD, AND a MicroSDHC into an SDHC. But, not all readers can read the HC cards (4GB and more).
gregwhitehouse said:
Hopefully an easy question for someone to answer! Will the Kaiser read a SanDisk 8GB MicroSDHC card?
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This has been asked many times and the answer remains yes (the same for the 16 GB version - I use one with my TyTN II).
On another point, I have a 4GB MicroSD that no device can read anymore. I cannot reformat it as it does not show up on the device (PC, PDA or anything!). Any ideas?
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When you say 'anymore', whats changed? Are you still using the same microSDHC -> SDHC adapter that the card came with and a suitable SDHC compatible reader when testing it on your PC? If so, it's time to get in touch with the company that sold it to you for a warranty claim.
I had a similiar problem. While moving some music over to my 8 gig SD brand card it failed after about 3/4 of the files and then dissapeared. I've tried soft reseting and popping the card in and out and I can't get my phone to recognize it.
I need to get a new usb adapter b/c the I don't think the one I have is hc compatable (it's a few years old) so I have no idea if my computer will recognize it directly. Does this sound like a card issue or phone issue.
Running ATT WM6.1 minus bloat with a few programs (all of which have been running for a week or so no problems). Sorry to hijack, I just didn't want to open a new thread and get flamed.
i got a 4gb micro SDHC, its a sandisk. i got it to upgrade from my 2gb sd, i have read that the HC cards (sorry if the card is in the acronym) are compatible with tytn II's.
it wasn't with my original rom, and now i have tried to new roms both of which wont recognise it at all. is there anything i can do?
patriotaus said:
i got a 4gb micro SDHC, its a sandisk. i got it to upgrade from my 2gb sd, i have read that the HC cards (sorry if the card is in the acronym) are compatible with tytn II's.
it wasn't with my original rom, and now i have tried to new roms both of which wont recognise it at all. is there anything i can do?
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I have 4GB sandisk sdhc card in my Kaiser and its working withot problem.
Did u try to format the card using fat32?
I just put a 16 gig Sandisk in mine last week I found on Amazon.com for about $65. Works fine.
Mack
New owner of Kaiser,I had Artemis and Touch so far,now I want to buy 4gb micro SD card (made by Kingston) for Kaiser, Has anyone had any problems with 4gb miscro SD?Will it work smooth and without any problems?
Thanx in advance
Greets from Serbia!
Since this morning my device is telling me that no Storage Card is inserted. I didn't change anything and the SD has been inside the device all the time. I bought the device around april 2008. I still have to test the card on my PC at home, but I wanted to check what my chances are. What is a bigger change? That the SD card just died on me or that my device has a hardware problem?
Funny thing is that yesterday I flashed to a diffrent ROM. I did a hard reset, still no luck. Flashed with an entirely other ROM, still no luck. So I am hoping its just the SD card that broke. Would be strange if flashing a ROM would cause the SD card hardware inside the device to fail the next day.
gochem said:
Since this morning my device is telling me that no Storage Card is inserted. I didn't change anything and the SD has been inside the device all the time. I bought the device around april 2008. I still have to test the card on my PC at home, but I wanted to check what my chances are. What is a bigger change? That the SD card just died on me or that my device has a hardware problem?
Funny thing is that yesterday I flashed to a diffrent ROM. I did a hard reset, still no luck. Flashed with an entirely other ROM, still no luck. So I am hoping its just the SD card that broke. Would be strange if flashing a ROM would cause the SD card hardware inside the device to fail the next day.
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Try to reformat the sd card with fat32. That helps sometimes.
Mikulec said:
Try to reformat the sd card with fat32. That helps sometimes.
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My laptop has a SD reader but it doesnt even map the card to a drive like it usually does. Any tools that I can use?
I already ordered a 8 gig MicroSD which should arrive tomorrow.
I'm not ready to blame my Tilt for my mSDHC problems but it sure seems like theres a lot of posts out there here and other places about people having memory card problems with their Tilt. I"m going to try again but if another memory card fails I'm sending my tilt back and hopefully I can demand to at least upgrade to a Fuze for a cost.
Funny this thread came up as my 4 gig card crapped out on me recently and is unrecogniseable to any device after running the sdhc cab on it. But yea, 8 gig works just fine. Using a 16 gig now with smooth sailing

Help Info With SDHC

Hi,
I have CID/Sim unlocked my Kaiser and installed Dutty's 6.1 rom with the great help offered on this forum, I am very happy with it but I have a few questions that I can't find answers, so would like some help please...
What is the highest capacity SDHC card I can put in, I have at the moment a 2GB MicroSD card with all my apps & stuff on...
When I get a new SDHC card can I back up my original MicroSD card with Sprite and then transfer to my new SDHC card and restore back on to my Kaiser with my new card...
Cheers
Jay
16gb is the largest you'll find right now, just do a google search for "16gb microsd" average price is around $100 US, although you can find lower. 32gb is in the works. You will be able to transfer all the files including back-up files from your old card to the new. Just remember that you'll need an SDHC compatible card reader for your computer to do the transfering quickly. An SDHC will not read with an older card reader. Of course you can always use activesync to manage the files on the new card, it's just a lot slower than using your computer directly.
Brad
Jay-La-Funk said:
What is the highest capacity SDHC card I can put in, I have at the moment a 2GB MicroSD card with all my apps & stuff on...
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I found this thread in the Kaiser Accessories Forum within about 1 min and as this is a very often discussed topic (even though the facts remain the same since year dot), don't be surprised if this thread gets locked.
When I get a new SDHC card can I back up my original MicroSD card with Sprite and then transfer to my new SDHC card and restore back on to my Kaiser with my new card...
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Also a question thats been asked before. As already mentioned you're better off to use the card reader and I use Windows to directly make a backup of your card. I just use Windows XP Professionals built in Back Up or Restore Application and it does the trick perfectly and for free, even with different capacity cards.
Since you're new here Jay-La-Funk, you'll find it helpful to review the xda-wiki, that's the link up the top and towards the left and use the forums search function, a few to the right of the wiki link.
I wouldn't even bother using any back up app. Just use a sdhc card reader and copy all the files from your current card to a temp location on your hard drive. Switch cards and copy them all back.
Hi,
Thanks to all for replying, appreciated, now to look for a cheap SDHC card...
parleyp said:
I wouldn't even bother using any back up app. Just use a sdhc card reader and copy all the files from your current card to a temp location on your hard drive. Switch cards and copy them all back.
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Good idea, think I'll use your method and forget about Sprite Backup, will save a lot of hassle, once I have all my apps, files in order on the new card, I'll then backup with Sprite...
Cheers
Jay
brad_wp said:
16gb is the largest you'll find right now, just do a google search for "16gb microsd" average price is around $100 US, although you can find lower.
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You can get 16 GB cards for $50 now.

8GB Micro SDHC HELP!!!

Hi, I purchased the Transcend 8GB Micro SDHC TS8GUSDHC6 about 3-5 Mo ago, for my AT&T tilt/8925, The issue I am having is that after about 1.9Gb, has been written to it, the transfer will either fail, or it will just sit and the completion will raise indefinitely. I do not have a SDHC compatible reader for my Pc, nor do I have another card over 2Gb. I was wondering if the phone cannot address over 2Gb, or if there may be something wrong with the card?
Hy
maybe i ma wrong, but i think you must format the card in "FAT 32". if you formated the card in "FAT" you can't get it over 2 GB... i don't it for sure
Greets, DrWinston
drnoobfragger said:
The issue I am having is that after about 1.9Gb, has been written to it, the transfer will either fail, or it will just sit and the completion will raise indefinitely.
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If you are attempting the transfer using Activesync:
You are very patient
Activesync is incredibly slow for large file transfers
Activesync has a bug where it appears file transfers are starting again continuously even though they do go through (eventually).
If you don't have a compatible card reader and have not partitioned the card, it should have already come with a Fat32 partition so DrWinstons concerns shouldn't be an issue. If you've put it in another (old) device to wipe it though, this may well be what's happened. Where has the card been?
The card was bought for this phone, and has only been in it. as far as active sync, it will write 1.5gb in about 35-40 min, then if I try to add another 1.5gb file, it will say 35min and count down for a few minutes, then suddenly the transfer bar, seems to stop and the timer goes up to over 2Days, and will continue to raise, I have left it for 10Hours one night and it made it no further.
Update, I am formatting with pocket mechanic now, Fat 32 4k cluster Low level, Backup Fat
Update2 Well format failed, now the card cannot be read by the OS, I am going to RMA the card. Guess that will fix it
1. I have encountered the same problem and rectified with an SD reader. My SD reader works for SDHC 8GB card. So perhaps if you can find an SD card reader, try it.
2. As for formatting with pocket mechanic, it doesn't seem to work for me as well. What I did was to use error correction in Win XP using the SD card reader. This worked for me.
3. You could also try downloading some usb host software bypassing ActiveSync totally and use your 8GB card like a regular flash/thumb drive which should dramatically improve your file transfer time.

[Q] SD card Help

If this is in the wrong section I apologise
Hi, well my milestone started getting really slow and crashing,
the back touch button at the bottom panel then stopped working and then the SDHC card could not be read by the phone.
I sent the phone off to be repaired, however the microSD won't connect to the computer. Searching on google has brought me no help at all (just those rubbish 'tech-help sites' which copy and paste from each other...)
the computer will add a drive (unused drive letter of D) which is shaded out, and says
'please insert a disk into drive D'
So I think that it has broken. Is there any way of recovering data? there's photos and alot of stuff on it.
thanks very much,
Ross
What you probably need (unless your card is really damage), is to format it, anyway if you search on the net there are some free programs that may help you to recover data from an SD (I don't remember which ones, you have to search them by yourself..)
If you need to format it, sometimes is just enough connect the SDcard and disconnected again and let windows see it as a new drive, then it will ask you automatically to format it.
I recommend (to avoid problem like this in the future) to do the FULL format not the quick one.
If with windows won't work, you can use a software to partition hard drives, like this two (the best actually):
http://download.cnet.com/Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html (support linux partitions for app2sd)
or:
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm
I recommend you to try first with Partition Wizard Home Edition, I had your same
problem a couple of times and this sofware always helped me, and, if in the future you are planning to flash new roms and modifiy your phone, just as a suggestion, is always better backup your SD, on your PC or on a pen drive.
Good luck, and let me know if you will succeed..
Thanks for that, I tried this out, but unfortunately none of it could help me
My SD card won't connect at all, the drive appears but it won't show a card at all, even in the partition tool, or the windows control panel, disk manager
thanks,
Ross
Is it a 16gb card?
On windows xp, you may have a problem seeing it.
You would need a card reader that can read 16gb sd cards if this is the case.
I know this because I've had a devil of a time making an ext2 partition on my 16gb card this week
I finally managed to do it but nothing I did made windows xp see the card through an older card reader. I had to keep the card in the phone and use the phone as a card reader
it's an 8gb card, and I use windows 7 sorry, I bought a 16gig one as a replacement, and it reads fine, I just want to get the data, I can't even re-format cause it won't recognise it :/
Rmg12gra said:
it's an 8gb card, and I use windows 7 sorry, I bought a 16gig one as a replacement, and it reads fine, I just want to get the data, I can't even re-format cause it won't recognise it :/
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Seems like you've tried everything, last suggestion, try this:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CWVWPLBF
You may get lucky...

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