RS 232 / Serial - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi,
I allways believed there is no RS232 on HTC Devices. Today I found something that confuses me:
http://bestcelldist.com/htc_tytn_ii_serial_data_cable.html
and this:
http://www.ppc-phones.de/index.php?site=ppcphones/htc_p4550.htm
is this Real? - where can you buy such cables? anybody a Wiring diagramm?
As our Devices miss USB Hosts maybe this is a chance to attache some custom Hardware.
BR
Daniel

more confusion:
http://htc-tytn-ii.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+TyTN+II
I know it doesn't work? Or am I wrong?

DanielS said:
more confusion:
http://htc-tytn-ii.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+TyTN+II
I know it doesn't work? Or am I wrong?
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Interesting. Anyone ever give it a try ?
They do have a free download available...
http://teksoftco.com/index.php?section=products&pid=18

I read the manual and they say: "To connect a USB device to your Pocket PC, your mobile device must have a USB Host connector. Not all Windows Mobile Devices have it."
Kaiser do not have USB host.
I also believe that you cannot draw power from USB. So this leaves BT mouse as only option.

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miniusb to serial adapter for tytn2 ?

Hi all,
I've got a HTC TytnII and am using a fantastic little application called mToken to connect to all our servers via SSH etc..
I did notice there is also a "Direct COM Port" feature on this application aswell.
PWOOOAAAR, now that would be nice just to carry my phone into a Server room to connect to a Cisco Router via console.
However, I would need a miniusb to serial adapter.
I actually have a usb to serial adapter for my laptop because my laptop doesn't have a serial port for this type of work, can you get a miniusb to serial ?
Has anyone had any experience with this ?
Can it work ? Does it work ?
Thanks all
Regards,
geebz.
Solution
Hi,
The TyTN II cannot be used with USB Hardware that requires the Host Mode as serial ports.
One solution is to use BluePort XP. I'm using it myself successfully with PockeTTY (I don't know mToken, but I think that this should work too)
http://www.ipenabled.com/blueportxp.html
tomli said:
Hi,
The TyTN II cannot be used with USB Hardware that requires the Host Mode as serial ports.
One solution is to use BluePort XP. I'm using it myself successfully with PockeTTY (I don't know mToken, but I think that this should work too)
http://www.ipenabled.com/blueportxp.html
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Those guys got to be kidding...
tomli said:
Hi,
The TyTN II cannot be used with USB Hardware that requires the Host Mode as serial ports.
One solution is to use BluePort XP. I'm using it myself successfully with PockeTTY (I don't know mToken, but I think that this should work too)
http://www.ipenabled.com/blueportxp.html
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Thanks tomli

Does Diamond has USB host?

Ok i read a few posts here that diamond has usb host. Depending on the information how you can flash your rom using card reader it must have. And one thing more i found usb host debuging program. So i think it must have.
The question here is - does someone managed to use it for hard drive or keyboard or something like that ?
Regards
IIRC, the USB host functionality is only available in the boot loader, and there is no driver included for when WM is actually running.
Ok but cant it be included somehow in the windows ?
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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So, could somebody more capable extract driver from that device and cook a new ROM maybe?????
kdskamal said:
Diamond does not have USB host functionality. AFAIK, currently only X75xx series offers it.
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And the Toshiba G900 has it as well. And it was frickin awsome .....
Last call !!!!
I am trying to draw an attention of experts/cooks again.
Please could somebody elaborate problem of an USB host within Diamond. Is it really impossible to add/implement the USB host driver into Diamond ROM or somewhere else to have that feature in? I simply do not believe in that.
its possible....but the diamond lacks developer's support , sadly
blufade said:
its possible....but the diamond lacks developers support , sadly
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That maybe true, I don't know, but I'm sure the Raphael doesn't, so perhaps look for a solution in that forum?
If i knew how to write one i would do it -.-
USB Host
any conclusions yet? does this mean that the diamond has hardware in it, but does not have the driver? have anyone tried this cable? http://www.nazo-fjt.com/ptcep/w-zero3/es_usb.html
it's in japanese though, but in seconds through babelfish, it is readable in english.
anybody?
for example: anyone can modify RescoExplorer. so when you connect a pendrive to diamond, by resco you can see the pendrive as a second storage......i think thath the logic is this...
any news about this?I'm very interested in it...
There are news! It's there! Now we'd need a host driver and then a lot of Windows Mobile drivers for a lot of devices (what about watching TV with DVB stick? *fg*).
so do what about our WinMo's... I think its only for androids

Generic USB devices on HD2?

Assuming USB hub functionality is present on the HD2, does anyone know if standard USB devices (e.g.generic keyboards or standard USB memory sticks) could be used on HD2 without having to install special drivers?
I'd like to know this to!
And like the G02, can I use a gamepad on this baby?
Given that USB host isn't supported how do you expect the device to have the drivers for it?
According to various reviews I've seen, USB host is supported.
sent them a mail
hello, just a quick question regarding the new HTC HD2,
does is "support" USB host, i.e can I plug in ,say, a USB memory stick (Generic devices)?
best regards
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lets see how fun the answer will be...
Well, there are no drivers for peripherals in the leaked ROMs, no official information, nothing that would really indicate USB host support. It may be enabled somehow via hacks, but that would certainly mean that drivers need to be installed separately.
got a reply from HTC today;
"It doesn't support"
thats a shame really, hoped it would have... no TV out and no usb host, that sucked
how would it work to extract the host drivers from another device?
Could they be used on the HD?
(I think not after what I have read, but it just might work)
may be you can try thoses drivers :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and some proper cabe because you may have to add a input power cable and see if it works and tell us

[Q] USB Host

Hi!
I've been wondering if our device could act as an USB host. It would be good to experiment with that feature, adding new drivers to the kernel, and using external devices like a printer, or an usb drive. Is it possible?
I've read some forums, I've seen that on Motorola Droid and ZTE Blade, that they have attached an usb keyboard, or a usb flash drive. These devices did not have a power supply on the port, they solved it externally.
So, the big question is can we enable the host mode on the USB somehow?
I've heard this has to be supported by the processor, and as far as I know the MSM7227 does not support the USB-host function. :/
nutterbg said:
I've heard this has to be supported by the processor, and as far as I know the MSM7227 does not support the USB-host function. :/
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I did some research on this, and found something interesting:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/sEQxpLaNfqmYjQ0clvLM2Q?feat=directlink
I found this in the service manual of our phone So it's not impossible - the MSM7227 supports the host mode by hardware - the question is how do we get use of this?
zte blade has MSM7227 -> so if they got it workin ... maybe we can use their drivers?
that would be a great feature
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zte blade has MSM7227 -> so if they got it workin ... maybe we can use their drivers?
that would be a great feature
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I've googled a little more on this, here's what I found :
USB keyboard+ZTE Blade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ydScM0sXU
The guy's webpage, who made the custom kernel for USB Host mode to ZTE Blade and Nexus One - could be useful http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
And his kernel: https://github.com/sonic74/kernel_msm - the only problem is that this kernel is .35, i don't know if we could port the host drivers from that
If any devs are here, please help us
(I'd love the next SwiftDroid with usb host support)
Before I try looking into this, wtf is USB hosts. I'm gessing its different to Adb and mass storage by the looks of this conversation :/
lukemovement1 said:
Before I try looking into this, wtf is USB hosts. I'm gessing its different to Adb and mass storage by the looks of this conversation :/
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USB host is the 'boss' device so to speak. It gives commands to its connected devices (USB Slaves) So, when your phone is connected to computer, the PC is Host where the phone is a slave. So using USB host on a phone/tablet, means you can connect a manner of devices such as keyboards, mice, flash drives and such. Hope that answers your question
any progress?
http://rumah-android.com/read-your-flashdisk-into-android-deviceusb-on-the-go.html any one try this and give us result.........
USB Host will come with platform 3.0+ ( for tablet )
So, you connect USB device to it.
If you want to control other device with Android platform below 3.0.
May use IOIO Board.
more detail
http://androidcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/10/ioio-board-for-android-control-io.html

[Q]Hardware bricked USB connector or just software prob?

Hello,
few days ago I've got my USB OTG cable. So, when I connected this OTG cable to my USB HUB through USB cable with 2 sides of type A port (pic here : http://www.cyfronika.com.pl/art93/kab120aa-l.jpg) to get power on HUB from USB port charger but nothing happened on phone with flash storage, any notifications or something. Then, when I wanted to transfer some files from my computer to sdcard. I've connected USB cable but Windows 7(32-bit) says that my device can be damaged or something (code 43). I've searched about this and found this http://pcsupport.about.com/od/errorc/a/code-43-error.htm . I've used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21503469 for setting up the OTG and for kernel too.
Well, I've followed this tutorial but the error still appears. Tried on 3 computers with different cables and different USB ports.
So just tell me if it's software problem or I must do something with this.
LOGCAT : http://pastebin.com/gbqqDxay
LOGCAT_radio : http://pastebin.com/H4dU9JWX
dmesg : http://pastebin.com/tkicx7xb
Logs has been taken after USB cable connecting.
Thanks
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(bumpin' like a crazy) Please, anyone have solution for this problem?
So the general idea is, you're trying to let your phone connect to other hardware while the phone is the host, right?
Now you're trying to connect your computer to your phone again normally and it's not working? (normal usb cable)
For one, there are a bunch of errors in the log you posted, thinks like
Code:
W/PackageManager( 353): Unknown permission android.permission.ACCESS_SUPERUSER in package hu.sztupy.android.usbhostcontroller
That might be a problem, I don't know. Perhaps you're better off asking the dev of this mod about these errors. Maybe there's something you forgot or wasn't mentioned in your guide that causes these?
Have you also considered the possibility your phone is now *always* trying to be the host (which is not going to be something a pc likes)? You're saying you can't properly connect with your pc any more, but can you connect with another device (usb stick for example)?
Marshian said:
So the general idea is, you're trying to let your phone connect to other hardware while the phone is the host, right?
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Yes, It was the general idea when I've bought OTG cable.
Marshian said:
Now you're trying to connect your computer to your phone again normally and it's not working? (normal usb cable)
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Yes, tried with 2 Nokia cables and one stock from Samsung. Windows is always showing code 43 ;/
Marshian said:
That might be a problem, I don't know. Perhaps you're better off asking the dev of this mod about these errors. Maybe there's something you forgot or wasn't mentioned in your guide that causes these?
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Well, I'll try to contact with @sztupy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468531). Anyways I think I haven't forgotten what I wanted to write.
Mashian said:
Have you also considered the possibility your phone is now *always* trying to be the host (which is not going to be something a pc likes)? You're saying you can't properly connect with your pc any more, but can you connect with another device (usb stick for example)?
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I've set default settings for USB Host Controller app. But no, I can't connect another device. I'm in half way to download Linux, maybe on it everything will be working properly.
Anyway thanks for your reply, let's see if it will be working on Linux ;f
//EDIT : Same problem on Linux. Device is not recognized.
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