Phone tracking - G1 Apps and Games

Hi, I did a simple tracking application to know the phone location if I lose it or it gets stolen.
I'd like to have some thoughts and suggestions, so if someone wants to try it just download it here
Thank you!

post it and let us check it out man, so we can tell you if it is worth anything or not

Any tracking program is going to be easy to bypass...
Alt+W
Turn of GPS
Latitude is the same deal, if you wipe, you lose the log in information on the phone and therefore, it can no longer be tracked.
That being said, the only "true" way to have something like this work (regardless of sim cards/wipes) would be to somehow track the phone by IMEI/SN through a combination of internet usage, cell towers, and GPS. Even though the GPS being turned off is a possible work-around, it renders the phone much less useful. It would also need to be installed with an update so that wipes are useless.

well, personally i have rooted my g1 and installed the app in /system/app, so i think a factory reset shouldn't delete it (am i right?). and gps and network location are automatically enabled for a 60 seconds location scan, then taken back to the previous state.
if you want to check it out, i have put everything here.
all suggestions are welcome!

has anybody tried it? i only received some feedback via email

ajejee said:
has anybody tried it? i only received some feedback via email
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Says Installation Unsuccessful. Tries to copy over "Android System"
ADP1.1 RC33

interesting. i'll try to do a fresh install on both my g1 and the emulator.

What sort of unique features can the app offer?
Currently I'm using GPS Tracker, which is supplied by instamapper.com, and it allows me to have a website such as this: http://thrash-tracker.co.cc/
If my phone gets lost or stolen, I can just check that website.

I released an application on the Market called Phone Finder. It will email you at a custom frequency (default 1 day) with it's location.

tried it but it didn't work.
ADP1.1h.

I'll give it a try. I'm currently using Where's My Android... but sometimes it says that I don't have a data connection. Not very reliable.

ThrashWolf: about instamapper, a user who's trying my app said: "the thing tht I like the most is that if someone where to steal it they wouldn’t know its tracking, unlike the Gps tracker from Instamapper that lets them know its tracking".
However I'll try their service and see what they offer
Koush: i'm a klaxon user and i love it, will install your app as soon as i find it on the market!
mrjay: could you please be more specific? didn't install? thank you very much

i installed it, run it, got to the username/password creation window and after that nothing is happening. i restarted the phone and still nothing i try to run the application and no result. the screen is flickering for a second trying to load the application and that's all.

that's how it works! i designed it to be just a service that runs in the background, you install and it does its work without user interaction.
have you tried to login to the website to see your location and modify settings?

I added some features like activation via sms. Info&download, as usual, on www.trackdroid.org

now i get it. i logged in and watched last entries. looks promising

thanks! if you have suggestions about features to add, just let me know

i was using on my old WM phones this application and i really miss it. maybe you can inspire from this application.

Related

GPS Location Software

My wife is traveling and I wish to be able to locate her. She's gotten lost twice already and she's traveling for SEVERAL hours from Indian to Minnesota.
She has an AT&T Epix with GPS integrated.
Is there software that I can install on my AT&T Tilt that will allow me to locate her? Her GPS is working, but the Google Maps is a little hard for her to track.
Thanks for your help.
have you tried altenative..
have you tried an alternative or checked this out ,( if so, ignore my suggestions.) as a backup ,if you cannot find what you are looking for ?
the name is the same as your heading..."GPS LOACATION..BY HIGHWAY "
of xda ,found under development and hacking, or try link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549517
example ..your wife could send you sms /email with link , which is just case of selecting, email or sms option on the software tab,
when you receive email , click on relevant link ,and you can see her position on google..? ( you dont have to do no tracking ? it pinpoints you with , street name and no ..)
i find this "gps location application ", very handy (works perfect on my hd )
hope this helps
Google maps with Latitude ?
gpsed
Try gpsed, http://gpsed.com/downloads. Free version allows tracking in as little as 1 minute incrememts. Installs on her phone, she activates and you follow along on any web browser. Works well.
Thanks for the reply. I don't know what happened. I've got my notifications set to INSTANT notifications and I didn't know anyone replied.
Well, she's traveling now and we don't have the option of installing the program. We have AT&T Navigator on her phone, and it's SUPPOSED to be able to SHARE the location, but the AT&T reps who PUSHED this product on us HAVE NO CLUE as to how to make it happen. And tech support hasn't returned my call.
I also want to install a program on my son's phone so that I can track his whereabouts WITHOUT his knowledge as well.
I thought there were programs out there that would allow that.
gpstoday.. www.geoterrestrial.com .. awsome app and will tell you down to the address of where she is.. and you can see her on a map all for free.. you will need to have internet access on the phone though..
chris4824 said:
gpstoday.. www.geoterrestrial.com .. awsome app and will tell you down to the address of where she is.. and you can see her on a map all for free.. you will need to have internet access on the phone though..
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Thanks Chris. I'll take a look at it now. My wife and I both have data plans. Is there something to install on EACH phone, or just MY phone since I'm wanting to track her?
Thanks for your help.

[SEARCH] Anti Thief App

I know there a lots of them on market. But I dont have the nerve to test them all. Can somebody recommend an app that sends me the phone number of the inserted sim card per SMS.
Would be cool if it also could send me the GPS location in a pre configured interval per SMS.
Thx...
i found one that is working perfectly for me...
App name ist "lost phone"
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gadgetprojects.lostphone
Not exactly what you're looking for, but Mobile Defense is a great, free anti-theft app with GPS tracking and remote lock.
I use WaveSecure. It has GPS tracking, online backup, remote wipe, remote lock, sms alerts and (importantly) uninstall protection.
I got a free subscription a couple of months back but I think you have to pay now.
Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
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Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
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Yea, you can always wipe from recovery but that isn't well known outside forums like this. It's unlikely a thief would figure that out before you've tracked him down and sent the rozzers round.
I found Mobile Security but I guess the app dev is no native english speaker (like me). His description for the "Security Code" feature is hard to read and understand. Any chance someone uses this app and can explain it to me?
el_smurfo said:
Not exactly what you're looking for, but Mobile Defense is a great, free anti-theft app with GPS tracking and remote lock.
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I would like to receive the phone number. My GPS is turned off most of the time. A lock feature is nice indeed but i guess the phone lands in the next dumpster when its unusable.
goldenarmZ said:
I use WaveSecure. It has GPS tracking, online backup, remote wipe, remote lock, sms alerts and (importantly) uninstall protection.
I got a free subscription a couple of months back but I think you have to pay now.
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I regulary buy paid apps but 20$ per year is too much i think.
monkey804 said:
Wouldn't a wipe via recovery console erase everything though?
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jepp, but i hope the thief just inserts his sim first
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I regulary buy paid apps but 20$ per year is too much i think.
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Ouch. I didn't realise they were charging that much.
I'm pretty pleased I got the free subscription offer now..
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I would like to receive the phone number. My GPS is turned off most of the time. A lock feature is nice indeed but i guess the phone lands in the next dumpster when its unusable.
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Did you even check out the www.mobiledefense.com? I will report the current SIM information, including phone number. If you are rooted and install the app in system/app, it can also turn on the GPS itself, telling you the location of the phone.
https://www.mobiledefense.com/tour
el_smurfo said:
Did you even check out the www.mobiledefense.com? I will report the current SIM information, including phone number. If you are rooted and install the app in system/app, it can also turn on the GPS itself, telling you the location of the phone.
https://www.mobiledefense.com/tour
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jepp, I did. The thing is I forgot to mention: its only available to Users in the United States
Besides Mobile Defense, there is Lookout. Although I don't think it has as much features though. I haven't kept up with it so I'm not sure. I don't think they give you the option to wipe your phone, but I'm positive they can do it if you ask them to.
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jepp, I did. The thing is I forgot to mention: its only available to Users in the United States
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Have you asked them about when they're planning to launch outside the United States? They might not be too far away.
What about viable alternatives for users looking for free protection outside the US?
Has anyone tried Anti DT (http://www.antidroidtheft.com/)? I've installed it but never used it (Thank God).
Features that are advertised on the website?
Email alerts when someone changes SIM cards
Online location tracking of your android device using GPS or Cell Towers (Any Web Browser)
Spy Camera: View images taken from your phone's camera.
i found one that is working perfectly for me...
App name ist "lost phone"
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gadgetprojects.lostphone
I also found "Lost Phone" one of the easyest. AND working, coz I have tried some other, inserted other SIM and nothing happening.. TRY before you buy and get your phone stolen
Too bad there isn't a wipe included. So to complete my anti-theft I added "Remote Wipe". Didn't test this one yet, need to backup my 16gb card first, don't wanna loose all that
If you have sensitive material from work on your phone you need something like this. Those two together put my heart at rest and bring me a "safer" phone.
I will give you a list as my G1 was stolen, I know these apps worked becuase it wokred for me but, the f*#^in" dumb... asssss I was saying... the cops never helped me go retrieve the phone. GPS number, cell number, and G1 box with IMEI number provided.
Enough with bad memories.... The List is :
Sim Checker will let you know of a new sim inserted in the phone as well as, the number and gps coordinates/number/location(address)
Wavesecure lets you add friends so they'll also know when your phone is stolen with features such as, Remote Sd card format, Remote lock, Phones will lock with an unknown sim, gps tracking, and backup of contacts, sms, call log, and now has uninstall protection.
GPS Tracker by Instamapper is a great way to track your phone in real time.
There are so many choices... I'd get them all!
Check out this one
This one identifies itself by IMEI, for each device a own APK is created.
You can control your mobile with sms commands, the itself is invisible, no app icon, nothing, and it can be changed to a system app.
Great
(I am NOT the dev, and I don't know him )

[Q] Anyone got Audible working?

Hi All-
Trying to get the Audible app working from the android market. It downloads and installs seemingly correctly. I can even browse the audible catalog using it.
What isn't working correctly for me is entering my account information to authorize the device & start playing items from my audible library. I seem to end up in an endless loop of asking for my credentials, saying they're good, followed by asking for them again. (I have another thread open where I am experiencing the exact same problem with the android market -- I can't seem to buy paid apps but free apps download and install fine & dandy)
Hopefully this issue with audible & my android market issue are caused by the same problem & both will start working once solved. In the mean time, can anyone confirm they have audible working on their device??
Thanks,
Mark
Have Exactly Same Issue
I called Audible and spoke with tech service - they even reset my password but to no avail. Audible is basically clueless (owned by Amazon so maybe it's a conspiracy
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I called Audible and spoke with tech service - they even reset my password but to no avail. Audible is basically clueless (owned by Amazon so maybe it's a conspiracy
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I really dont think audible tech support can be faulted for not being able to help you get their app working on a rooted ereader.
Audible and Rooted Nook Color
I have this same issue with the Audible app. I had an email thread with someone from the app team and here is what I got from them.
"The problem is that we are not getting a consistant device id for use in authentication. I'm guessing from the device that you're using that you're making your own framework builds; if so, if you can force the DeviceID field to always give the same value, then your activation problems should stop.
I've deactivated all the activations on your account. Just to be explicit, we check TelephonyManager.getDeviceId(), and if your phone type is TelephonyManager.PHONE_TYPE_NONE we'll check android.provider.Settings.Secure.ANDROID_ID. If for whatever reason you can't get these working correctly, then you can use the .audiblePrefs file from a device where this does work; we cache the device id there in case TelephonyManager.getDeviceId() returns null but your phone type isn't PHONE_TYPE_NONE."
So it looks like someone will need to figure out how to ensure that the Device id remains the same during all the transactions with Audible.
Sean
Thanks for finding that, Sean.
I have an android phone I can look at rooting to get to the mentioned prefs file. Perhaps that would be a way to generate a stop-gap while one of the devs looks into the device id issue.
Mark
Doesn't Market Use the Device ID
It seems that I remember that the Android Market also uses the phone device ID - in fact that is why certain cheap Android tablets cannot have the Market installed. Since we can get Market on a rooted Nook Color with no issue, I don't understand how the device ID would keep changing in case of Audible.
Keeping an eye on this thread. I would love to have my Audible app working
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Same problem here; also following it like K8108; thanks for any help you guys can come up with!
I havent tried to install audible yet but wanted to listen to my huge library of books on my old mytouch before they had an app and found a solution. You can buy SoundTaxi and rip the downloaded Audible books from your PC to whatever format you want and put on memory card on the Nook and listen. its not as bad as you think.
The odd thing of it is that under 0.2 and side-loading the app seemed to work for me. Moving to the latest autonooter however is causing the authentication problem that everyone is having.
Audible support was very kind, but basically said we do not support tablets only phones. My NC was trying to connect to audible.co.uk thus causing the conflict. As a Californian this isn't going to work for me obviously. The app seems to be able to download but not play the .aa files. Is there anyway to check the server without sending an in-app email, as that is the only way I know how to check?
Subscribed to the thread with hope that someone smarter than me can figure this out.
Update: Forgot to state that using adb of Audible does not work. Does this have anything to do with the new .jar file from Barnes and Noble, or something in the Autonooter itself. 0.2 was working very nice, but that was also under 1.0.0.
So doesn't anyone have any android device with working Audible on it... that can examine .audiblePrefs
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So doesn't anyone have any android device with working Audible on it... that can examine .audiblePrefs
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I have audible working on my android rooted HD2 - and have put several builds on there, but don't know a lot of techie stuff. If you will explain to me where to look, I could have a try.
It's been suggested to copy a working .audiblePrefs file over, but I don't have another android device to set up. I might borrow one, though, for a temporary setup, to get a working .audiblePrefs file (or an Id anyway), if I knew it was the way to get around this glitch. Was hoping someone with a NC and another android device would have tried it by now.
I have a Samsung Fascinate with Audible. I copied .audiblePrefs from my SF to my NC, rebooted my NC, and I am still in the loop of entering my username and password.
I am don't know much about the technical side of this, but I am very good at following directions. If there is anything you want me to try, just let me know. I am very anxious to try this.
I don't mind posting my .audiblePrefs file, but I don't know if there is personal information in there that I should be careful about posting.
I think you should keep your prefs file to yourself... it may be specific enough to include subscriber Id. Also, you may have exceeded your activation limit if you've tried too many times before copying your prefs... an email to Audible can reset the limit.
I find it interesting that the activation loop includes a quick flash of "Activation successful" on the screen. Audible sent me a reply in response to question... that they reset my activations... didn't solve prob, of course. Also interesting that I -can- play recent 'free' excerpts dnld'd from them via Audible app on the NC.
Just need a modder to look into this Id storage/reading. I'm a comptech but just a newbie on Android/NC.
I call all the time to have Audible reset my activations. That is no big deal for me. I am rooting phones all the time or switching computers and I never deactivate devices the way you are supposed to. I do wish Audible would wise up and give their users a way to reset activations online. But at least they never hassle me about resetting them when I call them.
Any new updates on getting Audible to work? Just did the autonooter and have hit the same problem.
Thanks,
Tim
I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I went from a stock 1.1.0 and then applied autonooter for the first time. Audible does not allow the authentication to occur just as the original poster noted.
k8108 said:
I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I did same thing (except I requested only my Android activations be reset, so as not to affect my PC or WinMo phone)...and have been using Audible on my NC successfully for a week.

[Q] Tracking a lost phone - When thief is not braindead

I checked out various apps which can locate lost phone(after stolen).
All work on the premise of installing app remotely from google play, and then sending SMS to your phone etc.,
However, there are a few caveats(with all such apps, and others too). they work for brain dead thieves.
Professional thiefs will throw away your sim card, and then put in a new sim(prepaid sims freely available).
For security, the owner of phone will obviously change the gmail password, right?
So if thief factory resets and wipes data, and then logs on with a different google play account, can you still track it?
Is there any app which allows to do the same?
Casual thieves can be caught, but what if somebody does a full wipe?
I think google tracks phones using device ID. Is it possible to track phone through google, even if android account(google account) being used on the phone is different?
Need help please.
Prevention is better than the cure.
If the phone has been stolen without any tracking software installed, then the chances of recovering it are a lot smaller than if tracking software was installed before it was stolen.
The best thing you can do is call your carrier and ask them to block the IMEI, if they care about you they may also track it down... Or at least do some kind of deal to get you a new phone.
The best tracking app in my opinion is Avast! Its free too !
There is an anti theft feature, which requires root, But it will install as a system app so a factory reset wont remove it. You can do a whole range of things via the webpage, such as activating mobile data, Turning GPS on so you can track it, You can also make the phone scream and shout 'warning this device has been lost or stolen'
This is a useful feature as only you can disable it, You can also enter a message which will be displayed on screen for the theif to see!
You can remotely lock and wipe the device, so the theif cannot change gmail account.
Its does a whole lot more too!
azzledazzle said:
Prevention is better than the cure.
If the phone has been stolen without any tracking software installed, then the chances of recovering it are a lot smaller than if tracking software was installed before it was stolen.
The best thing you can do is call your carrier and ask them to block the IMEI, if they care about you they may also track it down... Or at least do some kind of deal to get you a new phone.
The best tracking app in my opinion is Avast! Its free too !
There is an anti theft feature, which requires root, But it will install as a system app so a factory reset wont remove it. You can do a whole range of things via the webpage, such as activating mobile data, Turning GPS on so you can track it, You can also make the phone scream and shout 'warning this device has been lost or stolen'
This is a useful feature as only you can disable it, You can also enter a message which will be displayed on screen for the theif to see!
You can remotely lock and wipe the device, so the theif cannot change gmail account.
Its does a whole lot more too!
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thanks
Will it work in the following scenario
1. thief Steals phone
2. Puts phone in custom recovery
3. Flashes a new ROM
4. Puts in a new SIM
5. Uses a different google account.
Google has IMEI number of devices used. So can google let me know which user has the phone after its been stolen, if I give them a copy of the police report or something.
Actually Samsung have a free tracking and after-theft service.
You can set it up on the phone and on the samsung website.
It works even if they use the phone on the moon after having it
flushed through a toilet....So why bother in using third party apps and services ??
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...-and-control-samsung-galaxy-devices-remotely/
This is an old 'howto'. The samsung dive also works for the Note.
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thanks
Will it work in the following scenario
1. thief Steals phone
2. Puts phone in custom recovery
3. Flashes a new ROM
4. Puts in a new SIM
5. Uses a different google account.
Google has IMEI number of devices used. So can google let me know which user has the phone after its been stolen, if I give them a copy of the police report or something.
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Google are a massive company, I doubt they will help 1 individual person, but its sure worth a try
as for the scenario, If the theif flashes a new ROM, it will overwrite /system so any previous system apps will be removed.
But, bear in mind, not everyone is an android freak like us most people wont know what recovery is, or how to flash a ROM, so this should give you enough time to track it down via the website.
For the freaks that do know what they're doing, Well I guess thats unfortunate, No security can withstand the knowledge we have, You will just have to hope they have a nice heart and will return it.
How about 'android lost' application?
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dsmas said:
How about 'android lost' application?
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I have changed my google password. So thief will probably use new market account. Now the question is, if phone comes online via a different market account, can I still control it?
lost my phone (galaxy S2) yesterday or it got stolen - i dont know excactly.
BUT the phone is still on, even 3G.
so is there any app which i could install through the market and track it?
plan b won't work because i have android 4.x
Lun4cy said:
lost my phone (galaxy S2) yesterday or it got stolen - i dont know excactly.
BUT the phone is still on, even 3G.
so is there any app which i could install through the market and track it?
plan b won't work because i have android 4.x
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Do you have stock tw rom on your s2 if yes then Log onto www.samsungdive.com from their you can control your device by loging into your samsung account.. Good luck :thumbup:
Ps: if you have a cm rom then use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidlost worked on my htc desire pretty good when i lost it in my college
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Do you have stock tw rom on your s2 if yes then Log onto www.samsungdive.com from their you can control your device by loging into your samsung account.. Good luck :thumbup:
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unfortunately not :/
got a costum rom and i think i removed all samsung apps.
Who needs phone location track and how to track phone location with this OX MobileSpy
tsk1979 said:
I checked out various apps which can locate lost phone(after stolen).
All work on the premise of installing app remotely from google play, and then sending SMS to your phone etc.,
However, there are a few caveats(with all such apps, and others too). they work for brain dead thieves.
Professional thiefs will throw away your sim card, and then put in a new sim(prepaid sims freely available).
For security, the owner of phone will obviously change the gmail password, right?
So if thief factory resets and wipes data, and then logs on with a different google play account, can you still track it?
Is there any app which allows to do the same?
Casual thieves can be caught, but what if somebody does a full wipe?
I think google tracks phones using device ID. Is it possible to track phone through google, even if android account(google account) being used on the phone is different?
Need help please.
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Company who distribute cell phones always want to learn whether their employees are in rational use of vehicle and they go to the place where they should go, Cell Phone GPS Tracker gives you detailed information you want to learn with GPS location.
Location-specific information can be tracked especially for person who get lost when travelling unfamiliar places, or elder parents who are in amnesia may forget where home is, children get lost and so on. Then this OX Mobile Spy mobile phone location track function urgently needed.
OX mobile spy is both a mobile phone information backup software and a spy-tracking software, Which all depends on how to use it and how to review of it. By the using of it's backup function, you can easily backup contacts, messages, calls to your own email. By the using of it's spy-tracking software, you can use ox mobile spy's GPS location trace to find lost persons, use software installed in cellphone, messages, contacts and calls information to monitor your kid's suspicious behaviour.
Download: http://download.cnet.com/OX-Mobile-Spy/3000-2162_4-75909600.html
Exact GPS location with latitude and longitude, I like this program.

[SOLVED][NST/G] R.I.P. Amazon Kindle app (NOT!)

8-31-21: My report on the death of this app for the NST is a little premature. See post #5, etc., for a "fix". It worked for the poster and it worked for me. It might work for you.
Don't shoot the messenger...
Sometime in late 2020 or early 2021 it became impossible to negotiate an initial login with the Kindle app (yes, even with the OTP they email you). I've checked the security certificates and they are fine. I've tried installing the app on newer devices, going all the way to Oreo. Same behavior. A logcat on the NST shows a failed SSL negotiation so it looks like the server just won't talk to the old app any longer--at least for an initial authorization. That's the very bad news.
There is a tiny bit of good news for those who already have the Kindle app installed and authorized. At least on my three devices it continues to function completely. You can still check out Overdrive Kindle books and send them to your device and the same book on different devices appears to sync. You can also sideload .mobi books and read those. The clock is, however, probably ticking.
I mention this as a warning for anyone who has a legacy Kindle installation and is thinking of doing major work on their device. If you uninstall or wipe out the Kindle app, it's gone for good. It may be possible to use something like Titanium Backup to restore the app. I was able to find all this out after a reset and then restore my NookManager backup and the app worked fine.
Edit: I have done a little experimenting and the app authorization token appears to include a lot about the device and system. So it's not possible to use Titanium Backup. I tried this on a FW 1.2.1 installation with a working copy of Kindle. Then I updated and rooted FW 1.2.2, installed the Kindle app and then restored a Titanium backup from the same device (but with FW 1.2.1). It failed to initialize, asking to register again. I've had success only in restoring a NookManager backup from the same device with the same FW, etc., and in cloning a device from a NookManager backup. This is not something I would necessarily recommend, but you might have your reasons. However, when I tried to correct the MAC address, this threw off the Kindle app token and it reverted to asking for registration again. So there's very little wiggle room for preserving a working installation if you have to do any significant changing.
I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
In the defense of the NST I must say that recently saw on YouTube video someone put Alpine Linux on Kindle PW3. What am I trying to say is that older generation of this kind of devices suffer from same illness regardless of brand manufacturer pushing people to just abandon the legacy software on them and create their own custom made one tailored for their devices and their intended way of use.
If the SSL layer is somewhere in Android oh boy that might be harder cookie to bake from my point of view.
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I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
In the defense of the NST I must say that recently saw on YouTube video someone put Alpine Linux on Kindle PW3. What am I trying to say is that older generation of this kind of devices suffer from same illness regardless of brand manufacturer pushing people to just abandon the legacy software on them and create their own custom made one tailored for their devices and their intended way of use.
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SJT75 said:
I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
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My understanding of the issues is very limited. I once happened into a discussion where it was stated that apps which need to communicate with external servers contain their own SSL certificate which has an expiration date. If so, apps like that just die a "natural" death.
It's actually amazing that there are some apps requiring logins that still work on the NST. Two that come to mind are ancient versions of Pandora and TuneIn Radio. I use both and they still perform flawlessly. For now.
Until today I didn't know what Pandora is but I am familiar with TuneIn radio app. Good to know that some of those apps is still working. Well it just had to be complicated with SSL/TLS hidden somewhere in Android layer. I totally understand why people like Android user friendly UI and apps availability. Still gamble with Java seems that didn't paid of regarding promised platform crossing ability.
So either porting to a new Android version which probably will not be very new (low RAM) or making custom Linux which is anything but user friendly?
Edit: Scratch that question about Linux and the app OP mentioned! I just realize that there is no Linux Kindle app. It could be used through Wine and such witchcraft but that is stupid way of doing things on this device. Better option is to use it on PC and then pass it on to NST using Calibre IMHO. SSL/TLS although remains as weak spot for the time being. Oh well... If that issue with certificates get somehow fixed maybe Kindle cloud reader from browser could reclaim at least part of functions of dedicated Kindle app.
For what its worth I recently got a NST and managed to get the kindle app running this morning. I upgraded to FW 1.2.2, rooted with Nook Manager, and installed the app with adb. The sticking point for me was that I had to go into my Amazon account and disable two-factor authentication. When I tried to log in with the app it still gave the bad password error, and Amazon still sent a text message with an OTP, and that let me log in. This same process DID NOT work if I had two-factor auth turned on in my Amazon account.
I don't understand why they still sent an OTP when two-factor auth is turned off, but they did, and it worked.
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For what its worth I recently got a NST and managed to get the kindle app running this morning. I upgraded to FW 1.2.2, rooted with Nook Manager, and installed the app with adb. The sticking point for me was that I had to go into my Amazon account and disable two-factor authentication. When I tried to log in with the app it still gave the bad password error, and Amazon still sent a text message with an OTP, and that let me log in. This same process DID NOT work if I had two-factor auth turned on in my Amazon account.
I don't understand why they still sent an OTP when two-factor auth is turned off, but they did, and it worked.
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Wow! This is very good news. I'll give it a try tomorrow on a fresh system and see if I can get it to work.
Did you by any chance go back and turn on the two-factor login and see if the app still connected after first initializing it?
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Wow! This is very good news. I'll give it a try tomorrow on a fresh system and see if I can get it to work.
Did you by any chance go back and turn on the two-factor login and see if the app still connected after first initializing it?
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. I re-enabled two-factor and downloaded a book to test, everything worked fine. I'm currently using this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-eink-friendly-amazon-kindle-3-2-0-35.2024062/) version of the app, but I don't think it should matter much.
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. I re-enabled two-factor and downloaded a book to test, everything worked fine. I'm currently using this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-eink-friendly-amazon-kindle-3-2-0-35.2024062/) version of the app, but I don't think it should matter much.
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Excellent. As I expected based on legacy installs continuing to work, once the credentials are on the device, you're good to go whether you use single or two factor login after.
I had a password issue with Amazon awhile back and I'll bet that's where the problem originated. When I changed my password, authentication must have gone to two-factor. I need to check that, but I'm pretty sure that's it. What great news! Back to seamless library book checkout and download, all on the device!
BTW, the version of the app you mention is the only one that works (again!) on the NST.
Something is weird on the Amazon side right now. Even though two factor was turned off, they still sent the OTP. The only difference is that it actually worked when two-factor was disabled, but didn't work when it was enabled. Very strange.
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Something is weird on the Amazon side right now. Even though two factor was turned off, they still sent the OTP. The only difference is that it actually worked when two-factor was disabled, but didn't work when it was enabled. Very strange.
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Mmm... I'm glad you posted this before I started testing. I have two NSTs with working Kindle apps right now and I don't want to trash those while tracking down the "solution". I need to think about how I'm going to approach this.
OK, I think my last message was a little unclear.
What I meant was that with two-factor enabled you are supposed to be able to log in with a legacy device, have it give you a password error, receive an OTP via text or email, then use the OTP to actually log in. However, this does not work when two-factor is enabled.
What does work is first disabling two-factor auth, then trying to log in. You will still get a password error, they will still send you an OTP and the OTP will now let you log in and register the device.
This is what I meant when I said something was weird, when two-factor is disabled they shouldn't even be sending you an OTP. It's like disabling two-factor makes it work correctly, rather than turning it off.
To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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OK, I think my last message was a little unclear.
What I meant was that with two-factor enabled you are supposed to be able to log in with a legacy device, have it give you a password error, receive an OTP via text or email, then use the OTP to actually log in. However, this does not work when two-factor is enabled.
What does work is first disabling two-factor auth, then trying to log in. You will still get a password error, they will still send you an OTP and the OTP will now let you log in and register the device.
This is what I meant when I said something was weird, when two-factor is disabled they shouldn't even be sending you an OTP. It's like disabling two-factor makes it work correctly, rather than turning it off.
To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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OK, that's what I had hoped for and expected since my two working installs were made before my auth. got changed to two-factor. With really old apps you never quite know how server negotiation is going to evolve.
I hope to give it a try later today.
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To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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When I went to my Amazon account it seemed like 2SV was not enabled, by which I mean that clicking on "edit" for the settings generated an email which contained a link that took me to a page with a button that said "Get Started".
I didn't pursue this. I didn't see anything about turning it off--or should I have gone farther along?
That's odd, it does sound like it's not turned on... If you didn't have other devices that you were worried about I would say that you should just turn it on then try to log in. If that doesn't work, turn it off and try again. I think the risk is minimal, but clearly there is something different about your account, so it's up to you.
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That's odd, it does sound like it's not turned on... If you didn't have other devices that you were worried about I would say that you should just turn it on then try to log in. If that doesn't work, turn it off and try again. I think the risk is minimal, but clearly there is something different about your account, so it's up to you.
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Yeah, this is not working for me. I looked at the 2SV stuff again this morning and thought, "well, I'll just set it up and then disable it". Except I don't own a mobile phone (no, truly, just an emergency ancient (non-text message) device I keep in my glove compartment), and the QR thingy woud do me no good with the NST. So I'm cooked.
Despite apparently not having 2SV set up, now I can't even generate an OTP email when I try to login with the Kindle app. But my two working installations continue to function. Puzzlement.
Edit: I had a friend with a mobile phone help me out. So I finally got to where I could "disable" 2SV. But it made no difference. Still can't log in or even generate an OTP email by trying to log in. I'm glad this worked for you and I'd like to think it might work for others, but alas my account appears to be "special".
Edit-Edit: Yeehaw! It took a lot of fumbling for me with the unwieldy password I had to recreate in the near past, but by clearing the dalvik cache and making sure that 2SV was actually listed as "disabled" at Amazon, I was finally able to log in a new installation!!! Now I don't have to run a "clone" of another device on this particular NST. Thank you, @wrexroad, for taking the time to look into this and communicate your findings. One big step back from the brink for the Kindle app
That's awesome, I'm glad you got it running! In the future, if you need to get a password via text, you can use a temporary number here: https://sms24.me/en/countries/us/
Hey folks,
I just stumbled into this NST world and want to share my experience with the Kindle app. I'm on FW 1.2.2, and used NookManager to root. I replaced the certs file as recommended in another thread. Once I was ready to login, I enabled 2fa on my Amazon account in a browser. The instructions there clarified that I would need to use PASSWORD+OTP when registering my device. Previously I had tried only the OTP, or only my normal passwrord, but those failed. Appending the OTP to my password, I was able to login.
Hope that helps anyone else who has reached this point.

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