Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
mgs333 said:
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Thank you good luck with the move
kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
chribruu said:
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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Hey y'all,
I tried to search for the answer to this but couldn't find anything. Basically, I have found certain websites (my company's webmail, for example) that show up fine when I'm on a wifi connection, but come in blank when I'm using a GPRS/HSPDA connection. I'm guessing it's either a proxy setting or a Pocket IE registry setting that is causing this, but I have nothing really to back that guess. Is there anything that can be done to let me see the websites on both connections?
When you connect to WiFi, are you at home or at work? Is it possible you are trying to connect to a site that can only be reached via the "privileged" WiFi connection you are using?
If you can connect via WiFi and not via phone...
a) You do not have the correct Carrier data profile connections installed for GPRS.
b) You have re-flashed you rom and suffered a)....!!!
c) You have lost data links and java access to sites. Install Java, or re-flash your operator and stick with the cheap option you purchased!!!
d) Check for the network setup wizard (on this forum) and go to your carriers website to check the settings.
Thanks for the replies guys...
@dunneldeen: that's a good thought, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be limited on which wifi connection - in other words, I can connect regardless of the wifi area (airport, home, coffee shop, etc.) so that's not the problem.
@Farsquidge: I'm not sure if I'm understanding right. I can hit most websites and see them fine over GPRS, just a few certain ones don't show up - thus, I don't think it's my carrier settings. Option C seems like a potential candidate, I'll try installing Java and see what happens, and I'll report back if successful.
Thanks!
Err. Please don't forget you are using 'Pocket IE' not full blown IE and it will report that back via cookie to whatever site you are on and they will send you the cut-down version.
Download the trial for Opera (Not the mini version) for Windows Mobile.
In it's setup you can set it to report as PC.
Yeah, I figured it was a Pocket IE problem. It just seems strange that it works on wifi fine but not GPRS: does it send different cookies thru wifi than GPRS?
Err.. Actually, ya caught me out there but hopefully I can go back to my previous post and say you have lost your carrier profile for net access!
how much time does your kaiser takes to connects to the wifi?? mine takes a hell lot of time sometimes 5 mins even.....i can see in my router logs these 3 points only :
1) Wireless PC connected
2) authenticating.....
3) authentication success
but there is no dhcp lease ip for a long time. I upgraded my router firmware as well....it doesnt take so much time for my laptops (3 of them) what am i missing? any special config i have to do ? or is it possible to se the debug logs for my kaiser so i can try to find out the root cause?
My kaiser takes about 10-15 seconds with my Linksys WRT54G using WPA-TKIP. I'm running the stock HTC ROM and have nothing special setup.
4 seconds
no WEP
mac address filter: only allow selected mac addresses
After really looking at this, like the below user says, it takes less than 5 seconds with WPA-TKIP and MAC filtering. 5 minutes is excessively long, but unfortuntaly it seems that you've done everything I can think of. Hope you can find a fix!
Do you have the WiFiRouter installed? It may be falsely trying to connect to itself.
yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....
gandotratushar said:
yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....
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I think Nick meant, do you have WMWiFirouter installed on your kaiser (the app by Chainfire) as the kaiser may be trying to connect to itself.
One other thing, is your SSID on the router 'Hidden'? If you have not selected the box for hidden network on Wireless connection (when you set it up on the kaiser) it can bit 'Hit n Miss' to get a connection.
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
nothing works...i gets the same problem ...it takes a hell lot of time to connect.....is there any 3rd party software which can help me connecting to the network. I have noticed that it gives me the wrong signal strength as well.....sitting just next to the router it gives shows 60-70% signal strength. i dont have wifirouter app installed. I have tried the mac filtering as well but didnt help. my network is broadcasting the ssid and is not hidden.....and i am hating this. my friend wanted my kaiser to connect to his network so he could browse but it never got connected and i felt ashamed of this ~500 pound phone ......
did you try changing the power mode to best performance?
Mine takes 7 seconds to connect every single time. Thomson speedtouch from be broadband.Wep encryption.
ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!
joshuah82 said:
It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!
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i have tried this as well. sometimes it works. and i have set it to best performance. still no good
It takes 4 seconds for me (with a Linksys AP/Router) with WPA TKIP authentification.
Have you tried different wifi channel ? Have you try "Wififofum" to have some info about you're AP ?
my router is running with channel 11 ....how can i put it in my kaiser? what channel is yours running on?
That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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laakness said:
That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
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but atleast it should work...
If only we could all think like that
I use WRT54G running DD-WRT (custom linux firmware wich is a bit more stable than the original linksys fw) with WPA2-PERSONAL (AES) and it takes about 4 sec to connect. I live on 4th floor and the router is on 3rd floor.
TyTN II manufactured in oct07, original ROM.
Hello there,
Im not sure this is possible so here goes..
I am using the works connection, however they have pretty much everysite blocked, so i want to use my phones connection (kaiser with WnW+).
Now if i unplug my works network cable i can browse the internet through the kaisers internet connection (Local Area Connection 10 on here) but obviously can't access my network drives.
Now what i want to do is have both my works connection and my kaiser in, but i want the browser to use my phones connection NOT the works connection, however i still need my network drive etc.
Sorry if i have confused you or you don't understand.
In order to keep your work's connection active at the same time as your phone's, you would need software for Windows that forces port 80 to go out through Local Area Network 10.
Thank you for your help. Sorry to be a pain but do you know any software which i could get?
nope.
Get a junky computer, install ubuntu or any other flavor of linux, then install squid (a proxy server).. Lastly google the words..
ssh tunneling putty windows
you can get around most firewalls this way.
Thanks for that....
But i don't want to do that.
Then have fun not getting what you want.
ChumleyEX said:
Then have fun not getting what you want.
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haha that was a funny reply.
Try getting software that redirects your traffic on port 80 through a different LAN connection as stated earlier. This is possible. I currently have 2 browsers, one browser going through a VPN connection and the other using a LAN connection.
And notice how the sofware wasn't named.
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And notice how the sofware wasn't named.
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Found the name for you. It's Juniper networks, Secure Application Manager. When connected depending on which applications you have configured they will go through the tunnel or not. So when the app is in use, IE can only browse sites through that tunnel, so I install Firefox to browse all other sites.
Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
Telstra Internet
I have now set the internet connection back to telstra but it doesn't want to load the telstra home page anymore. That is why I gave up last time. I wish I could use wifi when I have it and browse the free sites when I don't Telstra is very annoying.
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Hello, soon im gonna write a small guide as to how to use your phone incondunction with a router to allow all devices connected to the router to connect via the mobile phones internet connection. I understand that this is not what your askings as from my experence you will not be able to what your are asking. But if you have a unlimited data allowence then this would be a good option.
you need a router
you need wireless on your laptop (dongle/built in)
and some minor knowledge on setting up networks manually
keep your eyes out for the thread.
regards Vic
stretch4x4 said:
Hi there
My Laptop does not have wireless and I am trying to use my Touch Diamond to connect to the wireless at uni so that I can browse the internet on my laptop at uni. I am having two problems figuring this out.
I can connect to the wireless on my diamond at uni to the work connection like the instructions tell me to. But I cannot seem to use this connection to browse the internet. I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
The next issue I have is that if I start the internet sharing tool I only have two options for the connection to share. The first is Telstra internet and the second is Telstra MMS I do not want to use these connections as i am on prepaid and all my credit would be gone in less than a minute.
I hope someone can give me some ideas as to what I am missing in this setup.
Thanks
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try to use wmwifirouter - it can use phones wireless and BT/USB connection to pc it will be a router for pc
Unsure
Thanks for your ideas although I might not have made myself clear.
The laptop does not have wireless. And I do not want to use the data connection on my phone as that will cost a fortune.
I wanted to get my phone to connect to the uniwireless and then allow my laptop to connect to the uni wireless for free internet via the phone.
I think I might just give up and buy a usb adaptor for the laptop.
Cheers
wmwifirouter does this !
Thanks
Oh ok, well I would have a look but i don't want to pay for it so im not going to try, especially as every time i have touched my network setup my free browsing stops working.
Thanks
This is a 2-part dilemma...
1.) is there a way to use my Wi-fi and data plan as a gateway for internet access with the computers in my home? I want to be able to turn on the Wi-fi, and the phone will become an access point and its internet connection comes from my data plan... I guess this can be done with a T-mobile G1.
2.) the way I do it now is that I hook it up via USB to a computer, and that works pretty well. Problem is, if I disconnect it via software function on the phone or just yank the USB plug out, I have to re-boot my phone before the internet sharing will work again. This gets annoying. Anyone else experience this and/or know if there's a fix?
Or am I just dumb and want everything on a silver platter?
are these computers connect in a network. I am sure it can easily be done by internet connection sharing just have all the computers connect to your pc for a connection.
I thought about doing that--basically an internet share to an internet share. That WOULD work, but I was hoping for something a bit simpler. i am not a hardcore computer user like I was back in the day where I had to have at least 3 computers running 24/7 in order to cope with life. LOL. I was hoping for a setup where I can just walk in the door from a crappy day at work, plug my phone into the charger where it gets its best signal, and just leave it there and the rest will take care of itself. I am close to being able to do that with my Xlink bluetooth cellular gateway. Once I am home, there's no reason why I have to carry my phone around the house, as my hard-wired phones in the house ring through my cellular and I can make calls from them
The other option is to quit being a cheap turd and get a $30/mo internet connection for my computers, which is faster than the EDGE service I get here at home. But I live alone and don't download big stuff anymore or play multiplayer games, etc
I think the concept in question is one that has been batted around here for some time: Can the Kaiser be used as an access point with an internet connection?
As far as anyone's been able to tell, no. The phone's wifi chip(or part of a chip that does wifi) would need to support AP mode (access point mode) where in it receives and routes multiple wifi connections' data between each other and the GPRS hardware. As far as anyone's been able to tell, the wifi capabilities in the phone are limited to single-connection only, so allowing multiple devices to connect (or even 1, unless the desired device can get internet via adhoc or bluetooth) is not possible.
You can use the WiFi connection sharing. What it does is take your EDGE or 3G connection and set your phone up as an "access point". I put that in parenthesis because it creates an "ad-hoc" network that only certain devices can detect and connect to. Ad-Hoc is a device to device network, where the normal is infrastructure mode. Also being the device it is, I'm not sure if it's going to be an intelligent network device, IE.. iTunes music sharing between local connected clients. But you can most certainly share your connection with your laptops or desktops if they have WiFi. I'll see if I can find the cab for you and post it here.
EDIT: Here you go... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4175565&postcount=90
Cool. I will look into that! I pretty much only have one computer running at a time these days, and the EDGE connection isn't all that fast to be sharing it among multiple computers anyway.
why...
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account
jeen said:
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account
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$ 30.00 for your phone data connection + $ 45.00 for your home cable/DSL connection = $75.00 per month, as opposed to just $30.00 for both.
To some people $ 45 dollars a month is a lot of money to save no matter how slow the connection is.
I am no expert but I found this software here a while ago and really liked it. There is an older version that is legally free but the new one is pay, try the trial.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
-Max
jeen said:
Hi,
Not sure if i understand... why would someone use the "crappy" internet connection of a phone to get internet access to your home network...
It's 2009. Why not get a decent cable or DSL account
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Or you're like me and cant get anything but satellite internet where I live, which is way more expensive. Yet I get 3G just fine =)
WMWifiRouter
I like WMWifiRouter pretty well. It drains my battery like crazy, but when I have my phone plugged in, it's okay. Without being plugged in, my battery loses about 20% over ten minutes. Also, the free version doesn't really come with any admin features. The router is public and there's no way to see who's connected. Other than that, it's great!