Hi guys,
I've had my X1 (Vodafone UK) for quite a while now and on the whole i'm very impressed. The only big let down has been the camera.
Recording videos is fine but when I take a picture, 99% of the time it comes out blurry. If someone moves an inch in the photo then that person comes out blurry.
I flashed my ROM yesterday to use Itje's Touch-IT 4.5 and there is different camera software included. I was hoping this would make a difference but it doesn't.
My question is does anyone know if this is a software issue or a hardware issue? (and if anyone else has the same problem as me?)
If this is indeed a software issue, does anyone have any tips or fixes they have found?
Thanks in advance.
Nav
The camera seems fine to me, although it does blur from movement. I just you just need to make sure everyone stays still.
My old N95 was worse, the pictures were blurry regardless of movement. The camera just never focused properly.
Make sure you choose the appropriate profile (On original ROM). Default is automatic. Set it manually to whatever you are recording, for example portrait for people. You might also consider sport event, I think this might help you with the blur. One more advice: Make sure not to move the camera UNTIL you are sure the picture's been taken. The shutter sound is too early.
Try setting the phone down and using the self-timer. The X1 camera has an extremely slow shutter speed which makes it sensitive to tiny shakes. It could be that you have shaky hands and the mere act of pressing the shutter makes the entire right side of the phone shake.
If that's the case, you can set the self-timer to 2 seconds, press the shutter, then keep still until it takes the picture. That way your squeezing the shutter won't interfere in the capture. It also helps if you prop your elbows onto a surface (like a table) or onto your torso to keep your arm (and your hands) still.
I've found that I actually take better pictures with my 3.2 MP slow Xperia X1i than with my 5.0 MP Cyber-shot K850i. Of course, both of them are a big FAIL when compared to my Nikon D90
oops. double post
sports scene should solve your blur.. but it will be darker than usual
Does your recorded video look crap too? I think it's because of the low bitrate, but when I am moving the phone while recording, all I can see is coloured squares... I use the latest camera from R3A and it is set on "high framerate" in VGA widescreen. Oh, and the sound is terrible...
My record looks pretty good but that may be down to the ROM i'm using.
I tend to try and stay as steady as I can and when i'm taking a picture of something that isn't a person it tends to be crystal clear. It's just when I take a picture of a person, if they move slightly or if I move slightly.
I will try the timer setting, as I do sometimes struggle with the button and probably end up moving the phone slightly.
Why would SE release a camera which is SO sensitive to movement? It's on a mobile phone, movements are expected here and there. I never used to get any blur on my SE Walkman phone and thats 2mp!
Thanks for the tips guys!
yep, it's terrible for movement. i'm fairly sure it's the hardware, but you never know.
best solution is to change to "Sports" mode. this takes the photo faster (so less blurring) but at a cost (photos will appear darker, to the point that darkish scenes will become black).
I find it hard to use the camera especially the camera button at the side of the phone. Its very hard to press down after focusing and because its hard to press it caused the photo to become blurry.
If I use the keypad center button for picture it become blurry too because the focus aint that good. See the picture below..
Picture 1 - Using keypad auto focus Image seems blurry
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Picture 2 - Manual focus using the side camera button.
I only can say that im disappointed with the speaker and camera..
Hope that the next rom update can fix or at least improve the camera..
As for the speaker, at least I can still install SRS WOW HD and do some volume hack..
The camera... Nothing can be done.. T_T!
dancemacabre said:
I find it hard to use the camera especially the camera button at the side of the phone. Its very hard to press down after focusing and cause the photo to become blury.
If I use the keypad center button for picture it become blury too because the focus aint that good. See the picture below..
Picture 1 - Using keypad auto focus [Image seems blury zzz]
Picture 2 - Manual focus using the side camera button.
I only can say that im disappointed with the speaker and camera..
Hope that the next rom update can fix or at least improve the camera..
As for the speaker, at least I can still install SRS WOW HD and do some volume hack..
The camera... Nothing can be done.. T_T!
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the second pic looks good.
have u got the new camera software from the r3 rom ( i have but have not noticed any improvement in quality of pic)
Ganondolf said:
the second pic looks good.
have u got the new camera software from the r3 rom ( i have but have not noticed any improvement in quality of pic)
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Nope, im just using rom 1.03.931.10 software R2AA010 Generic_uk
Lucky shot for picture 2.. sometimes i tried more than 10 times to take a good shot but all come out blurry.. Im pissed and i just give up.. *vomit blood*
dancemacabre said:
Nope, im just using rom 1.03.931.10 software R2AA010 Generic_uk
Lucky shot for picture 2.. sometimes i tried more than 10 times to take a good shot but all come out blurry.. Im pissed and i just give up.. *vomit blood*
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i know they have improved it on the r3 rom but as i never used it much cant really tell the difference
Ganondolf said:
i know they have improved it on the r3 rom but as i never used it much cant really tell the difference
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Well, hope that r3 rom user out there can give some answer on this
Its not rubish on my X1i, its loads better than the se 8.1 cybershot phone.
hey
m using xperia stock rom uk r1a0017
but m not facing any prob with xperia camera
click the link to see the pix
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/424/dsc0888.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7125/dsc0138i.jpg
I'm not happy too using the X1 camera. Photos even in Sport mode are shaked. Till now I've made about 300 photos and can say that maybe 10 are ok. My previous SE k800i was much better. The comparison of this 2 phones is like trying to compare k800i vs my Canon 20D.
About making movies - this sucks, really sucks. In good light, VGA mode and framerate set to high the movie is so laggy and pixelized that really can't watch them. I saw that they are almost 30 fps and same speed in playback mode on my laptop. So should be good. Must try to save them to phone memory, maybe this will be the solution. Perhaps SDHC is to slow?
Hope someone will find fix for it....
dancemacabre said:
I find it hard to use the camera especially the camera button at the side of the phone. Its very hard to press down after focusing and because its hard to press it caused the photo to become blurry.
If I use the keypad center button for picture it become blurry too because the focus aint that good. See the picture below..
Picture 1 - Using keypad auto focus Image seems blurry
Picture 2 - Manual focus using the side camera button.
I only can say that im disappointed with the speaker and camera..
Hope that the next rom update can fix or at least improve the camera..
As for the speaker, at least I can still install SRS WOW HD and do some volume hack..
The camera... Nothing can be done.. T_T!
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I'm very disappointed with the camera especially since I came from the Sony Ericcson K750 which had an awesome camera.
I can live with it though as I don't take that many photos, and they're usually landscapes which reduces the blurryness problem...btw
THE CAKE IS A LIE!
(Yeah i'm sorry but i had to do it...didn't I? Didn't I!)
It's Tiramisu!!
Another attempt.. The lobster !!
The second picture seem blur.. and im not really happy with the first picture either When I manually focus using the side button the camera focus on the little rocks instead of the lobster.. What can I say...
D-fens said:
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About making movies - this sucks, really sucks. In good light, VGA mode and framerate set to high the movie is so laggy and pixelized that really can't watch them.
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Happened to me too.. Every movement of people just blurry.. Cant even see their face..
I have a Touch Pro but I think fundamentally we have the same issues and generally the same solutions. Take a look here: http://www.fuzemobility.com/decrease-the-blur-of-your-camera-really/
To decrease the blur try to toggle the brightness setting to something a few notches lower (effectively changing the shutter speed) and there are also tips in that link to changing the delay in taking the photo. Again, I can't test these on an X1 but a lot of the X1 and Touch Pro elements are identical because of HTC. Hope it helps
Related
Hi
Been searching for a way to disable the auto exposure feature when the camera is used in dark scenes. Any registry mod to turn this off?
Sorry if it's been posted before, but I've searched this forum for shutter, exposure etc and have not found any reference to it.
I know the Diamond camera quality is terrible, but would be nice to trade blur pictures with dark but sharp pictures.
Actually diamond camera isn't terrible. It's just bad when doing photos in the dark, like every camera without flash.
it would be worthwhile to have a fixed focus as an option...similar to the landscape modes in digital cams where u just point n click without focusing
of course, the focusing works great in the diamond...but sometimes u might want to take a pic very quickly without waiting for the focus to kick in
also in situations where u want the background and foreground to be equally focused
not sure if there's any reg tweak for this
Is there a tweak for quicker exposure? Everytime i try to take a pic of my baby its always blurred or she's looking the other way by the time its taken the pic!
nokmond said:
Is there a tweak for quicker exposure? Everytime i try to take a pic of my baby its always blurred or she's looking the other way by the time its taken the pic!
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Do as i do, remove the sound of the shutter, take the picture and only say after
"Get ready ... 1...2...3! ok"
"ah.. but i wasnt ready..!?"
"Its good believe me "
IN advanced config you can set shutter to 0 seconds?
maybe this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406442
anyone working on a fixed focus??
someone try this please!
Better Quality
Hi, To improve the quality on my phone i removed the back cover and popped the plastic cover on the back case. Wooow the quality is fantastic after that.
Only downsize is you have to be careful in cleaning the lens. A bit of a clean from your shirt or top does the trick
hi all,
im not able to understand why all the pictures taken by my Xperia are hazy..... even in daylight. please see the attached images for sample. which are taken in different lighting conditions, in "Auto" settings.
Bright Outdoor:-
, Sunny:-
, Indoor :-
i tested almost every settings but all reproduces the same, where as Xperia is quite capable of taking quality pictures (http://www.flickr.com/groups/xperia/pool/)
Im using the stock ROM, with stock camera software.
i tried the instruction in the threads (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5087670#post5087670 & http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577364) but not able to solve my problem.
The Quality of video is good & i don't have any problem with that.
I might be missing some setting in Still image. can some one guide me or share their settings to get bright & vivid images.
netant said:
hi all,
im not able to understand why all the pictures taken by my Xperia are hazy..... even in daylight. please see the attached images for sample. which are taken in different lighting conditions, in "Auto" settings.
Bright Outdoor:-
, Sunny:-
, Indoor :-
i tested almost every settings but all reproduces the same, where as Xperia is quite capable of taking quality pictures (http://www.flickr.com/groups/xperia/pool/)
Im using the stock ROM, with stock camera software.
i tried the instruction in the threads (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5087670#post5087670 & http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577364) but not able to solve my problem.
The Quality of video is good & i don't have any problem with that.
I might be missing some setting in Still image. can some one guide me or share their settings to get bright & vivid images.
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Well I'm not sure.
But once I experienced some effect of this kind and was surprised too.
Than I looked at the camera eye cover
and observed that this invisible cover is scrached.
And discovered that the camera eye cover has a little invisible
layer on. So I removed this by strong scraching with a cloth.
Once I removed this layer and made the cover clean again
I never experienced this problem again.
As for settings - I almost always use Sports mode
which gives crisp and sharp photos..
Touch zoom works great with far/close object effect.
Usually I have unfinished ∞ zoom
or automatic.
doministry said:
As for settings - I almost always use Sports mode
which gives crisp and sharp photos...
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Thanks for your reply, but my problem is not related to shutter-speed or grainy thingy...
my problem is about the colors & brightness, i noticed the moment i click the image an additional amount of brightness has been added to the image before saving.
Please see this image to know my problem better.
See the unwanted glow around bright / white objects
netant said:
Thanks for your reply, but my problem is not related to shutter-speed or grainy thingy...
my problem is about the colors & brightness, i noticed the moment i click the image an additional amount of brightness has been added to the image before saving.
Please see this image to know my problem better.
See the unwanted glow around bright / white objects
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I think you may have the problem described here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493732
I had the same issue - disappeared on it's own after a week or two...
I still believe it's just a lens problem,
where camera sensor badly interprets visual input.
Remember it's a DIGITAL camera,
so all the light/picture information is digitally interpreted.
There's nothing optical about it...
photo quality is good of my xperia....may be brightness control (adjusted through keys around dpad, up down ) may be high or the camera is in multishot in shoot mode...just a guess...
Hazy pictures
I had the same problems, my lens was scratched from dust and other...
I polished it with a Display-Polish (you get it in a cellular accessory store, or search at amazon for displex) and the pictures are nice and clear again.
But take care: Don't use it on the Touch-Screen!!!
Just dirty from sweat and/or greasy hands. Just wipe it of. But depends on how long has it been there. You probably need few minutes to clean it. Mine was exactly the same
I have the same quality of pictures too...
ai think most of you guys don't get the situation... becuase i also experience the same issue..
when in viewfinder mode (when just about to take a picture. you know, the part where you are hunting and focusing on your subject), the picture quality is great. no smudges, the light balance is ok and the focus is just right.. but when you press the shutter button and it takes the picture, it like suddenly gets another hazy layer of over-exposed fog above your view finder preview.
as stated as well by the thread opener, the video quality is good.
if it is something to do with dirt and/or smudges on the camera's lens or lens cover, surely you would see the haze and the bad quality on all camera related stuff, including viewfinder mode and video. as another note, i have the HTC camera installed in my rom and it doesnt do the hazy, over-exposed picture on it..
ai think most of you guys don't get the situation... becuase i also experience the same issue..
when in viewfinder mode (when just about to take a picture. you know, the part where you are hunting and focusing on your subject), the picture quality is great. no smudges, the light balance is ok and the focus is just right.. but when you press the shutter button and it takes the picture, it like suddenly gets another hazy layer of over-exposed fog above your view finder preview.
as stated as well by the thread opener, the video quality is good.
if it is something to do with dirt and/or smudges on the camera's lens or lens cover, surely you would see the haze and the bad quality on all camera related stuff, including viewfinder mode and video. as another note, i have the HTC camera installed in my rom and it doesnt do the hazy, over-exposed picture on it..
ytsejam_ said:
ai think most of you guys don't get the situation... becuase i also experience the same issue..
when in viewfinder mode (when just about to take a picture. you know, the part where you are hunting and focusing on your subject), the picture quality is great. no smudges, the light balance is ok and the focus is just right.. but when you press the shutter button and it takes the picture, it like suddenly gets another hazy layer of over-exposed fog above your view finder preview.
as stated as well by the thread opener, the video quality is good.
if it is something to do with dirt and/or smudges on the camera's lens or lens cover, surely you would see the haze and the bad quality on all camera related stuff, including viewfinder mode and video. as another note, i have the HTC camera installed in my rom and it doesnt do the hazy, over-exposed picture on it..
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Like I said - first try it, then write Mine had also great videos. Why? Well not hard to find out
And yeah, the lens seemed also OK to me.
Like I said - try to clean it first. Otherwise it's pointless to write here and complain, coz nothing else can fix it Had this on my Qtek 8310, 8500, W910.. Know what I am talking about
Mine takes great pics in automatic mode, I have not done anything in the settings. I am using R3 camera.
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5676896.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5676911.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5676914.jpg
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5676917.jpg
Must be the lens..
Updated to version V5
Changes:
Photos: No over exposure. (0 ev)
Videos: As always videos look good in low light (more or less equal to the brightness you have when taking photos)
Install instructions same as below.
Links:
ADB: http://www.mediafire.com/?z0idch09sgl5r20
CWM: http://www.mediafire.com/?spiv8o9lav017t8
I see more than 60 downloads of v4 but surprisingly no feedback/report from anyone whether you see any difference with this mod. I ll not be able to improve this any further without feedback guys.
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Please find the updated version V4.
I had to change lot of variables and also had to mod cameraapp to get this working. I used somboons camera apk and his script so you ll have sound off mod in this one. Thanks to somboons.
Also thanks to Somboons for creating automation scripts for us.
Prerequisites
Deodexed rom from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871858
Firmware v10F
Changes you should notice:
Improvement in video brightness in low lights
Reduced over exposure (only +0.1ev)
Improvement in video quality when making video calls like over Skype/Gtalk
I am also trying to improve sharpness by changing the metering mode and increasing the meter spot size (feedback is important)
Reduced saturation (it helps improving video quality in low lights)
INSTALLATION
Method 1:
Flash via CWM.
1. Download CWM_Install_Camera_mod_V4.zip
2. Flash it via recovery
Method2:
1. Download the adb_camera_mod_vV4.rar file
2. Extract it
3.run the script
4. let it reboot
5. It also makes backup of the original files so, if you dont like it you can always revert (backup will be at external_sd/backupcamera).
These methods are tested and confirmed working.
Do let me know your feedback.
I really really spent lot of hours understanding and modifying these files. So i dont mind small donation to motivate me to work more on such mods. Thanks.
Links:
CWM: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ph3scev44he3mvy
ADB: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d307z8c3ex2tm1l
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I tested this on 10F Swedish rooted phone and confirm that it is working well. Should work on 10D and may be previous versions as well. But i cannot guarantee.
(this is my first ever mod I made it by myself and post it in XDA. So dont flame me if anything is not right, thou I am happy to take your suggestions and improve further).
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Hi friends,
Finally after 3 days of continuous work (spent at least 20-30 hours on this project) I managed to make a breakthrough in this brightness issue when shooting in semi lit conditions. As mentioned earlier, problem is not with the camera app but with the drivers itself. For some reason LG chose not to support higher ISO or proper adjustment of exposure/brightness/contrast for low light settings (it was the same case on LG optimus 2x as well).
Attached is the modifed camera.tegra.so (camera driver for our LG 4X). You need to copy it to /system/lib/hw using Root Explorer or similar application and set permissions. When possible I ll make flashable zip or some other automated way for everyone and also comparison videos. If anyone can help me with that i'd really appreciate it.
Benefits of this new driver:
1. Improved image quality. You ll see size of the photos will be about 2.5mb (instead of 1mb). You ll also notice ISO values in low light photos hitting around ISO2500 (even i didnt know that this camera can support such high ISO).
2. Improved visibility in the video recording in low light conditions.
3. Improved bit rate in video recording upto 25mbit/s.
4. Constant 25-30FPS in video recording.
Drawbacks:
For video recording I increased the brightness level twice as much. So dont use highest brightness when taking videos in dark. If you do so you ll see very high noise.
Comparision videos in both indoor and outdoor:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/20rxmifrqzxjgby/dzY4BZuN6E (obviously difference is obvious in indoor than outdoor).
Installation:
1. Download and extract LG4x_working_camera_driver_20120830.rar
2. Using Root Explorer, go to /system/lib/hw and backup existing camera.tegra.so to camera.tegra.so.bak
3. Copy camera.tegra.so to /system/lib/hw
4. Set rw-r--r- permissions
Reboot.
When you open native camera app you should see the improvements.
Let me know in case you have any questions.
Change log:
V3 : 20120901
a. Reverted to automatic saturation as pictures look better with unmodified one
b. Reduced exposure to +0.3ev so that picutres dont look over exposed yet we ll see some improvement in videos. Should you need higher brightness in videos please use +/- correction. (hard to please all, right?)
c. Reworked on sharpness. Pictures/Videos look much sharper now.
V2 (enhancements): 20120830
a. Optimised saturation. Pictures in bright light looks colorful and in low light reduced noise
b. Reduced over exposure on pictures taken in bright sunlight
c. Improved sharpness of the pictures by edge enhancement (read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_enhancement)
V2 (no enhancements):
No saturation or sharpness enhancements but just reduced over exposure.
Also uploaded original file in case you forget backing up
As always you are responsible for the changes you make on your device. I dont want you to complain about phone transforming into aliens or turning to paper weights if you use my mods. I am happy to help if I can.
Hope you enjoy my mods. Looking forward for your feedback.
PS: One should not experience any bootloops or any major issues with this mod. So dont be worried
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In this thread I am seeking help to make LG 4X camera better. If you dont know what you are doing then thread is not for you, move on!!!
As I am really frustrated with the dark videos in a semi lit room and as there no other camera apps available to help get better videos I decided to mod the camera myself. I reached a point where I need help from experts here at XDA
Camera dark light problem video samples: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r0xdgyo34oyhlq0/pPF8M8VNcj
To make it clear, problem lies with camera driver not the camera app (and thats the reason why other apps arent of much help). Camera driver is /system/lib/hw/tegra.camera.so
I took drivers from OneX and Asus Transformer Prime as an example (btw Asus prime takes amazing photos/videos even in low light) and modded the driver. Problem lies with ISO settings. Our dear LG 4X doesnt use ISO settings for video recording and seems it cannot change FPS on the fly when it is low light (still tries to record at 30 fps). High ISO and high fps causes dark videos. Read here: http://www.izzyvideo.com/low-light-video/
Now I managed to eliminate dark videos in low light successfully but
1. while taking video view finder is tilted by 90 degrees regardless of what direction you hold it. (see attachment camera.tegra_titled.rar)
or
2. It takes only photos but no videos. (see attachment camera.tegra_partlyWorking.rar)
You ll need HexEdit (http://www.hexedit.com/) to mod these files.
Just extract either of the two attachments and copy the tegra.camera.so file to /system/lib/hw and set permissions. Just backup old one before you do this thou. To save the noobs from flashing this file I put it in rar but not zip.
If anyone wants to know what changes i made, how I made please PM or write below and I can explain. Hoping for helping hands here to solve camera issue
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thank you,i wait for next versions
Working good ! using the partly mod
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda premium
Good work
EDIT: Don't work flash in videorec and shutdown .(
with v10D,i replace original my file aand now worked.
Can't open flashlight .
edit, the flashlight works fine in camera mode, but can't open in recording .
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda premium
Did video recording work for you at all? For me it didn't with partly working file. Which file were you using?
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
The Camera of teh 4X is same than The Optimus 3D or 2X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502963
I not understand this code,only help you.
WillySonicteam said:
The Camera of teh 4X is same than The Optimus 3D or 2X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502963
I not understand this code,only help you.
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No. That one is for OMAP CPU based phones where as we have tegra. No similarities in the code as far as i know. Thanks for the info thou.
-S
Ok,read This,the One X have Tegra 3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416
WillySonicteam said:
Ok,read This,the One X have Tegra 3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765416
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Thanks. I sent a PM to the developer there. Let's see if we can get any help. Will keep you guys posted.
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
Nice work! fully working on my p880 with V10c
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
Good job ksekhar!!:good:
WillySonicteam said:
Good job ksekhar!!:good:
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See the V2, you ll like them. I recommend V2 with enhancements.
V2 with enhancements works good,thank you.
Thank for your work.
Thank for your work.
All works good, but twice brightness gives overespoxure in photos.
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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Ale-xs said:
Thank for your work.
All works good, but twice brightness gives overespoxure in photos.
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thanks for the feedback. can you confirm if you are using V2 mod as I fixed it. Also it depends on where you focus as well, can you try focusing the same photo indifferent locations and see if the over exposure still exists?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
ksekhar said:
thanks for the feedback. can you confirm if you are using V2 mod as I fixed it. Also it depends on where you focus as well, can you try focusing the same photo indifferent locations and see if the over exposure still exists?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
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Iam trying V2Enhancements.zip and sotck camera.tegra.so V10F firmware. Today had a lot of tests with the standard and your driver. When shooting, I did not use the touch focus, the camera will chose the exposure.
Empirically found that your driver all pictures differ by about +0.5 +0.7 EV, that is, they are brighter in any light.
Just seemed to me that the video was a little antsy (laggy) in 1080, maybe it isch due to increased bit rate, but I have not yet fully tested. And it is strange that one minute of recording goes about the same size in megabytes on your and the usual driver.
Sorry for google-english.
Ale-xs said:
Iam trying V2Enhancements.zip and sotck camera.tegra.so V10F firmware. Today had a lot of tests with the standard and your driver. When shooting, I did not use the touch focus, the camera will chose the exposure.
Empirically found that your driver all pictures differ by about +0.5 +0.7 EV, that is, they are brighter in any light.
Just seemed to me that the video was a little antsy (laggy) in 1080, maybe it isch due to increased bit rate, but I have not yet fully tested. And it is strange that one minute of recording goes about the same size in megabytes on your and the usual driver.
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Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Ca you try this test version and see if it helps. Thanks.
ksekhar said:
Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Ca you try this test version and see if it helps. Thanks.
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I have testing this version and found why photos is overexposed. See screenshot. Modded version add +0.4EV in each shot.
I also checked the video. In low light the video was better. Bitrate instead 7mbit was 10 megabits. However, all the videos began to appear a significant head (lag) when the camera is moving. Perhaps this is due to increasing the bitrate. For video, I use the internal memory and not the memory card.
Ale-xs said:
I have testing this version and found why photos is overexposed. See screenshot. Modded version add +0.4EV in each shot.
I also checked the video. In low light the video was better. Bitrate instead 7mbit was 10 megabits. However, all the videos began to appear a significant head (lag) when the camera is moving. Perhaps this is due to increasing the bitrate. For video, I use the internal memory and not the memory card.
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Thanks. But i couldnt find a way to increase only video brightness without affecting exposure on image. I use Samsung 32gb class 10 microsd card and probably thats why I havent noticed any difference. I ll check again and come back. But in general night mode records slow videos than in broad day light
Btw where it the screenshot?
Hello,
I recently bought a Sony Xperia Z1 and I have a thing I wanted to know, not sure if it's a problem.
When I try to take shots at night, before I press the shutter button the whole image looks very grainy. When I actually take the shot it comes out ok.
What it bothers me is that it's a big difference in quality between what appears on the screen before I take the shot and the actual picture which is ok. Is that normal?
Thank you very munch in advance.
Hope I made myself clear.
Yes this is normal in every phone. Not only the back camera, even the front works the same way
Thanks for your response!
Z1's camera does not perform well in low light photography
andreighi said:
Hello,
I recently bought a Sony Xperia Z1 and I have a thing I wanted to know, not sure if it's a problem.
When I try to take shots at night, before I press the shutter button the whole image looks very grainy. When I actually take the shot it comes out ok.
What it bothers me is that it's a big difference in quality between what appears on the screen before I take the shot and the actual picture which is ok. Is that normal?
Thank you very munch in advance.
Hope I made myself clear.
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The viewfinder gives you at least 30 frames per second, so each 'image' that is shown in the viewfinder will have at most a shutter speed of 1/30th of a second (or in superior auto mode more like 1/60). However, if you take the actual photo, you may end up with an image with a slower shutter speed. To make sure the viewfinder can give you 30 images per second, the ISO is increased (increasing the noise in those images) for the viewfinder frames so that the shutter speed can actually get to 1/30th of a second. After all, what you see in the viewfinder is basically 30 pictures per second.
So when you take a photo that appears less noisy than the viewfinder images, you can already guess that the shutter speed is probably lower than 1/30th of a second.
ron76426 said:
Z1's camera does not perform well in low light photography
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Herp derp. Z1 is top class regarding low light either manual or auto though manual is better depding on how light strength.
Stocka camera app, manual, ISO 100, shutter speed 1/8 and stock camera app manual, 'Night scene' mode.
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The viewfinder gives you at least 30 frames per second, so each 'image' that is shown in the viewfinder will have at most a shutter speed of 1/30th of a second (or in superior auto mode more like 1/60). However, if you take the actual photo, you may end up with an image with a slower shutter speed. To make sure the viewfinder can give you 30 images per second, the ISO is increased (increasing the noise in those images) for the viewfinder frames so that the shutter speed can actually get to 1/30th of a second. After all, what you see in the viewfinder is basically 30 pictures per second.
So when you take a photo that appears less noisy than the viewfinder images, you can already guess that the shutter speed is probably lower than 1/30th of a second.
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This and also after the photo is taken post proccess algorithms are applied reducing noise and more.
EQ2000 said:
Herp derp. Z1 is top class regarding low light either manual or auto though manual is better depding on how light strength.
Stocka camera app, manual, ISO 100, shutter speed 1/8 and stock camera app manual, 'Night scene' mode.
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This and also after the photo is taken post proccess algorithms are applied reducing noise and more.
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Z1 has one of the best camera till date but still it lacks in low light photography..
I'hv been using z1 since it was launched and done taking most type of pictures
At night i was capturing a pic from a plan of a city while landing and it didn't capture well..the pic had green tint
But following updates made the camera much better but it still needs to improve in low light
ron76426 said:
Z1 has one of the best camera till date but still it lacks in low light photography..
I'hv been using z1 since it was launched and done taking most type of pictures
At night i was capturing a pic from a plan of a city while landing and it didn't capture well..the pic had green tint
But following updates made the camera much better but it still needs to improve in low light
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Well all phone cameras lack in low light if you compare to high-end DSLR. But night time is the forte of the Xperia Z1+ series. No other phone even comes near regarding being able to do such high ISO while keeping decent photo quality in such harsh extreme low light situations in photo or video recording. Also as you go up with ISO the scene colors will dictate a lot. If you had green tint it means the dominating scene light was green and/or the surfaces where green like grass and so on. For example like the green lights reflecting on the window at night while you captured the photo (if you where in the plane when landing). Green hue will be visible and the high ISO will make it look like "night vision" mode. And long exposures is out of the question for such scene as you described as you are in movement and so is the plane which would result in a blurry trail mess else night scene mode or portrait mode would have given a detailed nicely lit photo at low ISO. The S6/Note 5 or G4 would fail miserably in such extreme situation.
Stock camera app (Lollipop 5.1.1, no unlocked bootlader, DRM present). First photo is to show how it looks IRL (1/8, ISO 400). Second is 1/8, ISO 2500. Third is same as first but different angle and 4th photo is 1/8, ISO 4000. I didn't even hit the max of 6400 which lits up way more. So low light capabilities of the Z1 either in night mode, portrait mode or high ISO is beyond the competition on the mobile phone arena. Heck even in lower ISO it is at the top segment!
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Stock camera..the picture did not come well..could have come better
It is noisy and thats because of the big size of z1's camera consor
Check z2 or z5 camera test samples..those cameras are improved
How long have you been using z1!?
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Stock camera..the picture did not come well..could have come better
It is noisy and thats because of the big size of z1's camera consor
Check z2 or z5 camera test samples..those cameras are improved
How long have you been using z1!?
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Z2 and Z3 uses same IMX220 camera module. Z5 has some software that needs to be tuned but obviously better camera hardware. Your photo looks horrible. Tons of smearing, out-of-focus and movement blur. Might want to check your camera for decentered lens or scratched/greasy lens cover as something is wrong with your camera considering you even got decent night lighting around you there. Quite some time.
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Also try out ProCapture camera app for night scenes if you want 'night mode' and 'portrait mode' at 21MP.
First one is stock camera app in SA mode. 1/8 and ISO 6400. Extremly dark environment.
Second one is with ProCapture camera app in 'night mode' at 21MP. 0.8, ISO 100. Night time at city, near pitch black sky.
Third one is stock camera app in manual at 21MP, ISO set to 100. 1/8, ISO 100. Night time city with very dark overcast sky.
I think mine is defective? Try this test:
[(x2 Camera) (x1 Camera) (HR Sensor+Flash) (Fingerprint Sensor)]
Cover the x2 optical zoom camera with a piece of paper, tape, or your finger
Press the x2 Optical Zoom button on the camera app
Press the x1 Optical Zoom button on the camera app
Toggle back and forth between the two
What happens?
As a control, try the test again but in reverse:
Now, cover the x1 camera with a piece of paper, tape, or your finger
Press the x2 optical zoom button on the camera app
Press the x1 Optical Zoom button on the camera app
Toggle back and forth between the two
What happens?
So, here's what happened with my camera.
TEST 1 - x2 Optical Zoom Camera covered: No obstruction of image in x1 optical zoom mode and x2 optical zoom mode.
TEST 2 - x1 Optical Zoom Camera covered: Yes obstruction of image in x1 optical zoom mode and x2 optical zoom mode.
CONCLUSION: My x2 optical zoom camera is defective and does not engage when the x2 optical zoom button is pressed, instead the camera defaults to x2 DIGITAL ZOOM using the x1 camera. I think my phone might be a lemon but I wanted to see if others have this problem too?
There is like four or five threads on this topic, explaining this in detail and BTW I think it works the same as iphone and no, it's not defective.
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There is like four or five threads on this topic, explaining this in detail and BTW I think it works the same as iphone and no, it's not defective.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/feel-kinda-lied-to-camera-t3678220
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/2x-zoom-camera-optical-zoom-t3681342
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/optical-zoom-auto-mode-t3677214
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/cameras-2x-button-digital-zoom-optical-t3675508
The wide/main lens has better low light image quality than the telephoto lens (f1.7 aperture and 1/2.55" sensor for the main and f2.4 aperture and 1/3.6" sensor for the zoom). When taking a picture outdoors, the scene is bright enough that the telephoto lens will be used when you click on the x2 icon. If you take the picture indoors, even with artificial light, the phone sees the you get a better picture from the main lens so it uses that instead, and then crops the picture to get the zoom effect.
Look at the pictures attached. That's the same shot from the main and zoom lens. In low light, the zoom lens has worse image quality, with increased graininess from pumping up the ISO and a lot more blur from having to keep the shutter open longer to get more light in
You can try it yourself. Open the camera, aim it at a well-lighted scene (usually outdoors). Tap the x2, THEN cover the main lens and the viewfinder still shows the uncovered view.
Yeah mine "doesn't work " either.
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And for the record, this is not how the iPhone I tested worked. 7plus. In my office where light is moderate but not great, the note used the main lens and the iPhone used the telephoto. If you want to force it to use the 2x, then choose live focus. Which has no other choice.
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The wide/main lens has better low light image quality than the telephoto lens (f1.7 aperture and 1/2.55" sensor for the main and f2.4 aperture and 1/3.6" sensor for the zoom). When taking a picture outdoors, the scene is bright enough that the telephoto lens will be used when you click on the x2 icon. If you take the picture indoors, even with artificial light, the phone sees the you get a better picture from the main lens so it uses that instead, and then crops the picture to get the zoom effect.
Look at the pictures attached. That's the same shot from the main and zoom lens. In low light, the zoom lens has worse image quality, with increased graininess from pumping up the ISO and a lot more blur from having to keep the shutter open longer to get more light in
You can try it yourself. Open the camera, aim it at a well-lighted scene (usually outdoors). Tap the x2, THEN cover the main lens and the viewfinder still shows the uncovered view.
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if this is the case then you should also show the reverse, as in what it looks like in good lighting situations and not just low light.
because with your example you're just repeating the problem but are not actually showing a solution or showing that there's nothing wrong with his lens. ie: you're not really proving anything.
i'm actually not that invested but just saying if you're going to prove something at least just try to do a complete job. nothing wrong with that, right?
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And for the record, this is not how the iPhone I tested worked. 7plus. In my office where light is moderate but not great, the note used the main lens and the iPhone used the telephoto. If you want to force it to use the 2x, then choose live focus. Which has no other choice.
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Actually it does work similar way:
https://www.macworld.com/article/31...d-of-optical-more-often-than-youd-expect.html
They will never be exactly the same, since they have different hardware, different logic etc. but for the purpose of this topic in low light they will both use digital zoom, instead of optical zoom, albeit at different threshold point.
the 2x lense works on the live focus.
yes it works fine on the live focus. your camera isnt broken. I tried it myself yesterday.
when the x2 lens is covered just a little bit it switches to the main camera and zooms in digitally.
when you then remove your finger from the x2 lens it switches back to that one almost immediately. you can barely notice it but i played with it yesterday because this post was driving me nuts!
lennie said:
if this is the case then you should also show the reverse, as in what it looks like in good lighting situations and not just low light.
because with your example you're just repeating the problem but are not actually showing a solution or showing that there's nothing wrong with his lens. ie: you're not really proving anything.
i'm actually not that invested but just saying if you're going to prove something at least just try to do a complete job. nothing wrong with that, right?
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The pictures are to demonstrate that the zoom lens takes worse pictures in low light, since most people expect that the cameras are identical except for focal length ("zoom factor"). I really didn't go good light examples since that's essentially the phone working as expected, and people have already seen millions of examples of that. So here's the 1x and 2x pictures in good light... I guess?
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The pictures are to demonstrate that the zoom lens takes worse pictures in low light, since most people expect that the cameras are identical except for focal length ("zoom factor"). I really didn't go good light examples since that's essentially the phone working as expected, and people have already seen millions of examples of that. So here's the 1x and 2x pictures in good light... I guess?
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Really dumb question , is there a sure fire way for me to see if my X2 zoom being used is optical or not?
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Is there a way (or an app) to force the use of tele lens camera on the samsung note 8?
Working fine here if you block it will default to one camera as it detect issue if you toggle 1 and 2x it will re enable the other camera also if you just open camera app without blocking any camera both work as they should.
IDK if this is with new update but It also tells you when camera one is blocked and if you block camera 2 it says not enough light.
Again with this? If you cover the tele lens it thinks it is dark and ceases to function, plain and simple